: Concept of Aaroodha in Prashna – Kerala style-To Kankan ----Part I

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Kankan, The first meaning is self-explanatory. But countable few alone pursues that one. The vast majority of Keralite astrologers follows the other meaning, that is , to be possessed. It could be any thing, evil spirits, gobblins, curses of preceptors, enemies etc.Say for example, if Sat, the 6L of enemies occupies Pisces(bhadak place for Virgo Ascendant) , in a prasna, with Virgo rising, Astrologers say the querist suffers from Sathru Bhada; means, he will have trouble from enemies. If Rahu occupies Bhadastana----predict trouble from Snakes/ members of other religion, fungal infection between thighs, viral disease etc If Jup ---troubles on account of curse of pious Bramins/ preceptor, Hepatitis, intestinal problems, legal complication, disease connected with vocal chord etc Ven---troubles due to females, Yakshi , veneral disease etc Gulika---Troubles due to Manes, ghost

etc Sat---problems from low type people, Deities such as Sastha, Demi-Gods of the Jungle, Lord Shiva etc Mars---Due to angst of Lord Subramonia *(Note this point) ,trouble from owns own blood relatives, siblings, cops, arms and ammunition etc NB--In a real case study, the Astrologer told the querist he has incurred the wrath of Lord Subramonia, and strangely the querist admitted that contrary to the vow taken, he failed to perform tonsuring of head in a famous temple of Lord Subramonia in TN, for some favours received. Mercury--- Trouble from Lord Vishnu and HIS devotees, Maternal uncle/aunt,nephew, niece , friends , youngsters , media etc Sun---Trouble from Government, Fatherly figure, excessive heat of body, sun stroke, eye disease cardiac disease, curse of Lord Shiva etc Moon--Problems to or on account of Mom,

Mother Goddess, troubles in mamarry gland, eye sight, etc Kethu--Severe back pain, angst of Lord Ganesh, spondylitis , inviting the wrath of members of other religion etc Mutual Aspect/Conjunction between 7L and bhada lord or If badha lord aspects the ascendant lord or the ascendant , problems to querist on account of "evil eye" (Very Correct in actual experience) According to textbboks 27 varieties of spirits possess human beings. Madhu N Nair kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote: Dear Madhu ji,Thanks for the clarifications. You wrote2, Bhadhastanas - Two meanings are accorded to Bhadastanas viz > (a) Obstruction (b) To be possessedI am not clear on option (b). If you have time, kindly elaborate. Also importance

of Gulika in Prashna. Thanks & regards,Kannan , VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote:>> Kankan,> No matter where Jupiter is, blocking is considered with repect to Aruuda and Risng Sign relation (2/12, 6/8) only.Earlier, the astrologers use to abandon the prasna altogether. The querist is asked to meet the Astrologer on another day.If prasna is blocked,the remedial measures fails to work. It is also an indication of adverse time ahead for the querist.Personally, based on real life experience , I feel such a directive is quite unwarranted. I will explain. Often the Arudha reflects the current situation of the person posing the question. The rising sign or UdayaLagna apparently indicates the future. A shashtashtama (6/ 8) indicates, Disease, Debts,Litigation , Mental Anguish, Insult / loss of reputation,

scandals etc and Dwirdwadasa (2/12) between these two is a pointer towards Change of residence/station , foreign travel , expenses, trouble from secret enemies, problems to ones children , in relevant cases imprisonment, raid in ones business establishment/> residence etc.As I mentioned in my previous message, these are general statements , and should not be taken literally without considering the prasna chart as a whole.> Always remember the entire Kerala prasna branch revolves around two things> 1, Gulika (Notes---should be calculated as per UttaraKalamrita directive and not BPHS) There exist a difference of about 20* between these two.> 2, Bhadhastanas ---- Two meanings are accorded to Bhadastanas viz > (a) Obstruction (b) To be possessed> The second meaning is widely applied (And often abused or

misused) by professional keralite astrologers.> Madhu N Nair> > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73 wrote:> Dear Madhuji and Sreenadhji,> > Many thanks for your explanations. > One more query, Is Jupiters position from Arudha (or Aaroodha) also > consider for Blocking/hindrance to Arudha. Also what if the arudha > is blocked? what how to proceed next?> > Thanks & regards,> Kannan> > > , "Sreenadh" > <sreesog@> wrote:> >> > Dear Madhu ji,> > That was beautiful! But we should reach an agreement on -> > Whether to call it Kavadi, Cowries, or shells or whatever. > > Also Aaroodha, Aruuda or Aruda whatever.

> > Otherwise we will make others confused with 'Arudha' out > there. )> > Actually I feel that Arudha would be the correct spelling, but > alas > > that spelling was used by somebody else!!! )> > Yes, instead of saying "Dividing the number of shells with 12 and > > taking the remainder", the words "Expunging the multiples of 12", > > sounds better. > > Instead of the words, 'the rising sign' or 'Udaya Lagna', I think > we > > can stay with the word 'Lagna' or 'Asc'. As we know in Prasna all > > those words mean the same. If we use all different words and > > different spelling many may get confused. > > By the way what is this :Arudha (AL) others are talking about? > And > > how they are calculating it? [Deal All, please forgive my > ignorance]> >

Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > , VYASAJI > > <vyasatvm@> wrote:> > >> > > Kankan,> > > Sreenadh will brief you regarding the queries putforth , in > the > > mean time, I will narrate , whatever little I know about it.> > > The cawries also known "Kavadies" are 108 in number. Firstly, > > the cawries are are cleansed in pure water. Then it is immersed > > in "Cow's urine" for a day. Then it is kept in "panchagavya"(An > > Ayurvedic preparation available in all Ayurvededic medical > outlets > > of Kerala, made out from five products, obtained from cow) for > > couple of days.Subsequently, it is kept in tender cocanut water > for > > a day. Again in rose water for another day.

Then touching these > > Cawries, Ganesha Gayatri is chanted minimum of 1008 (In earlier > > times, 24,000) in the early hours of the day. After that , > touching > > the cawries, Dakshinamurthy Mantra (some go for Divine > Panchakshari) > > is chanted 1008 times. On an auspicious Muhurth, when Jupiter is > > powerful and well placed from the Ascendant, this is handed over > to > > the disciple by the preceptor.> > > The method of analysis > > > When a querist approach the astrologer, after praying to Lord > > Ganesh and Ishata Devata, and prayer to Almighty citing the > name > > Nakshatra and age of the querist , is made with a request to > grant > > the correct Ascendant that will reflect the querist past, present > and > > future. A handful of

cawries are taken. Expunging the multiples of > > 12, the remaining is taken as the "Aruuda" . The rising sign is > > technically called "Udaya Lagna" A comparison is made between the > > Aruda & the rising sign. While conducting the prasna, the > Astrologer > > will carefully notice the Omens technically called " Nimithas" If > the > > Aruuda is in 6-8-12 from rising sign, it is generally believed, > the > > prasna is hindered (Blocked). Exceptions are there. Say, if rising > is > > Taurus & Aruuda is Libra , there is no hindrance to prasna ; > reason > > is both these signs are owned by one and the same planet, that > is, > > Venus .> > > Hope this helps> > > Madhu N Nair > > > BTW--All these cawery purifying , and allied affairs

are > things > > of the past. It is now Westerners , who are showing real interest > in > > such things.> > > > > > > > > kankan_73 <kankan_73@> wrote:> > > Dear Sreenadh,> > > > > > Kindly tell me about the procedure of Prasna, how it is done in > > > Kerala. Kindly also tell me about the use of Kavadi (shells) in > > > Prashna and also about the concept of Blocking of Aarooda.> > > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > Kannan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >