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RK, By oversight, the position of Saturn in D-9 was erroneously mentioned as in Libra' actually it has to be in Scorpio. Madhu N Nair VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote: RK, She had crossed 30 years and hence the forst and foremost thing we should probe is , the reason for the delayed marriage and whether marriage is promised at all ,in her chart. -----We find Mars, the 7L of spouses receiving the 10th house aspect of Saturn , without any redeeming features from Natural Benefics.Ofcourse this sole point is not enough to explain the abnormal delay. -----Mars, the 7L of spouse in the sign of a retrograde slow--moving natural benefic ------In D-9, with Aquarius Ascendant (Remember it is a fixed sign) Sun, the 7L of spouse

is joining Retrograde slow-moving natural benefic Jupiter in a Fixed sign. Notes--- For a fixed sign, retrograde Jupiter inflencing the 7H or 7L , is usually found to delay marriage considerably Whether there is Marriage As I have already pointed out Marriage is extremely difficult to take place for this native. Anyway, two points , though very feeble ,can be cited in favour of a marriage but with hardships and bottle-necks.. ------Mars, the 7L in 11H of fulfilment of desire, identical with a Benefic sign -----Mars, the 7L of Rasi in a Benefic sign in D-9 But do remember, neither the 7H or 7L receives any benefic influence. Why Marriage didn't take place in Saturn's Dasha ? If you believe in stellar lordship of planets, you could see that Saturn is in the lunar asterism

of 7L Mars tenanting 11H. Despite this highly favourably point, subject didn't get married in Saturn's major period. The question is Why ? Pls note that Saturn begets a navamsa in Libra, that is 6th from Taurus Ascendant in Rasi.The 6H is always detriment for everything represented by 7H (7H specifically stands for spouse) being the 12th from it, if you count clock-wise, as per Bhavath Bhavam principle Will the current Dasha of Mercury confer marriage ? Mercury , the 2L of family & the 5L of progeny occupies its inimical sign Cancer in retrograde mode(A snag) .In D-9, it is in 8th (Wed-lock) .It is in opposition to Jupiter, the 8L of Marital Bond So Mercury could give her a marriage but a tasteless married life.Tr Jupiter arriving at the sign scorpio will augment and bless her with marriage, provided

adequate efforts are taken to find a suitable groom from now onwards.It might be a case of 2nd marriage/widower or a inter-caste marriage Madhu N Nair arkaydash <arkaydash wrote: Dear Shreenadhji,Sorry if I caused inconvenience by not furnishing the complete chart. Before your and Shree Madhu's enthusiasm I feel sorry indeed. No, nothing amiss with the little detail I posted. The yr you have veered towards is correct. Ketu steers us here. 1973 or thereabouts. The DoB is 10 July 1973 and ToB is 1.57 AM. Night birth. PoB: 21.28N 84.04EWhich gives us Asc Taurus 5.21.54Sun Gemi 23.58. 11Moon Libra 22.23.31Ma Pisces

18.32 Me Cancer 9.28 Ju Capri 16.15Ven Can 18.02Sat Gem 3.46Rh Sag 14.11On this horoscope, I and another senior astrologist (about whom I have written to you) could not see eye to eye. He held it against the 2nd-hse concentration of Naisargika malefics. I reasoned that for Taurus lagna Sun is sukhesha (4th lord) and his combining with Bhagyesha (9th lord) in the hse of kutumba and dhana (2nd) can't be evil. He could not assail my line argument but he remained sceptical about domestic felicity of a female with this combination. I think here is a horoscope where only overall estimate can lead us to resolving the dichotomy between functional and natural roles of planets. Now of course we have the complete chart or data therefor.Some of the apprehensions this combination can

raise in astrological minds are: Will such a female native enjoy domestic felicity? Will she be a cementing factor or disruptive factor in the in-laws family after she gets married. What is her mangayla quotient with Ju in 9th aspecting lagna lord and 5th lord and forming Gajakesari Yoga? Is her MQ low because of the nodal axis along 2nd-8th despite Ju aspecting lagna, forming the GK yoga from Moon, and taking trinal care of the horoscope (aspecting 5th, 5th lord, tenanting 9th, and aspecting lagna). If Ju 8th lordship sullies the planet thus robbing it of its natural benefic power, then Saturn's 9th plus 10th lordship imbues it with great beneficence, which in the company of lord of sukha sthhana Sun, can only redound to happiness and luck. And since it is in the 2nd hse, it will redound to prosperity post-marriage.Let's demolish these arguments.For example, like this: Ketu, the fiery

catalyst, will in the company of fiery Sun and airy Sat will dry up the the accrual from the yogas. Ans so on. Is that so? Sincerely,RK , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Madhu ji,> Please hold your prediction! - the chart seems to be wrong!> RK ji said: "Taurus being the rising sign, the 2nd hse has Saturn, > Sun and Ketu". That means,> Lagna = Taurus> Birth Month = June 15 to July 15 (Since Su is in Ge)> In Gemini = Sa, Su, and Ke is placed.> These are the only info he provides. If we consider Sign and house > as one, (hoping that he is not considering some type of house system, > since he never mentioned it), for which year this is possible. Sa > takes 30 years to complete a cycle. It is in Ta in 1973, 1974, or

it > could be in 1944 or 1945. > So the birth took place in either: 1942, 1943,1973, 1974 in the > month of June of July. But we can not get Ke in Ge in any of these > years!!! The closest possibility is 1974 when Ke would be in Ta!> The Birth date and Time is not provided! What is the point of > predicting based on such data?!! Just hold back, get the exact and > data and then only proceed.> Dear RK ji, consider these points and please restate/rephrase the > question. Or am I wrong in understanding the data you provided?!> Love,> Sreenadh> > > , VYASAJI > <vyasatvm@> wrote:> >> > RK,> > You should note that, for Taurus Ascendant, Saturn is also Badhak> (Obstruction !) .A conjunction between Sun, the 4L of Education with

> 9L of Higher Education in 2H (Orally Transmitted Vidya) identical > with the sign of Mercury, the causative planet of Education might > mean two things> > ------ The subject is destined to have Higher Education> > ---------There will be minimum two breaks in her Educational > career.> > It also means> > -----Subject will indulge in heated conversation (Reason--- Two > fiery planets, viz, Sun & Kethu in 2H of speech)> > ------There will be occassional friction between Dad & Mom (Sun & > Sat representing Mom & Dad are mutual enemies)> > -------The subject may have to go for litigation that last for > several years(Reasoning---Sun afflicted by Saturn in 2H of wealth > aspecting the 8H of court case)> > ----The native will also incur Dental

complaints (Saturn > afflicted by Sun in 2H of Face) and may have to go for false dentures > or implants (kethu , the planet of Disguise, joining Sun & Sat in 2H)> > -----There may be some person in her family with Medical History > of Cardiac and or/ Paralytic complaints (Reasoning ---Sun rules > vitality & Saturn saps vitality. These two> > planets combine in 2H of Family. The conjunction occurs in 3rd > sign of the Natural zodiac, that in my personal studies, is found to > be giving problems with> > Body Movements.> > Hope this helps> > Madhu N Nair> > > > arkaydash <arkaydash@> wrote:> > Dear members,> > I have come across a chart where the so-called subhayoga from the > > combining planets also casts a

shadow. Taurus being the rising > sign, > > the 2nd hse has Saturn, Sun and Ketu. Now to take Sun and Saturn, > > the lordships give us 4th+9th, which is causative of a good yoga. > > But how do Sun and Saturn meld? The question here is, with > > such 'naisargika-s', how is the 2nd hse impacted? Adversely or not? > > How do you see it? This is in an unmarried woman's chart. > > > > RK> > > > > > > > > > > > > >