Icha, dristi, death, etc.

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Dear Members,

 

Sorry to be going off at a tangent from pure astrology all the time

but I thought I must tell this on this forum.

 

We were talking of graha dristi and that I presume is related to

icha?

 

I have an acquantiance / friend who visits me sometimes. About a

month back he told me that his father was unwell and had a strong

desire to die. His father too was an astrologer. He predicted for

himself that he will not survive beyond 3rd May this year. Third May

also happened to be my friend's birthday.

 

Yesterday he dropped by and told me that his father expired on the

4th May in " subha " hours.

 

The person had a strong desire to die because he was suffering. But

to have timed his own death so accurately was amazing. He was

undergoing his third cycle of Sade Saathi.

 

I couldn;t get his birth details in the given circumstances, but

maybe i will do so later for this forum.

 

Another amazing thing, I was told that happened was that this

person's sister-in-law who had been living in the same house for

many years, since she became a widow when young, passed away the

following day. There was once again a strong icha at work here.

 

Why I am wrtiing this is to know from esteemed astrologers on this

forum about the role of icha in our charts to shape events in our

life.

 

My guru has been saying that THIS MOMENT is inevitable but the NEXT

MOMENT is full of a million possibilities.

 

The RESPONSE TO THIS MOMENT is in our hands....I suppose it is how

we act...our karma.

 

But the next moment is something so uncertain....something like the

motions of sub-atomic particles....that can it be influenced by

consciousness / icha???

 

Would like to hear the opinion of esteemed members!

 

Love,

 

Vinita

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Dear Vinita ji,

You are absolutely right!

Icha (Desire) is also playing a strong role in making predictions

true. If we accept that hypnotism works, if we know that we have a

strong will which can change things (even destiny - Rishis supports

this argument) then why not can we ignore the role of icha (Strong

Desire/Will)? But I would like to add that Icha is not lone player

that makes the predictions true, it is one of the factors I should

accept.

In olden days when snake bitten people (or their relatives) visit,

the Ayurveda doctor, since they strongly want to tell the event,

knowing or unknowingly they may touch the portion of the body where

the snake bite. This is a psychological factor. The doctor knows

about this, psycho factor and makes use of it, at times by predicting

the body part where the snake bite, 'before' the patient tells about

it. Why? This makes the patient amazed at the capability of the

doctor and there after the words of the doctor works magic! If the

doctor says that it is a minor case and for sure the patient will

survive then, the icha (desire/will) of the patient is aroused, and

at times he survives against all odds! Yes, of course, it is one of

the factors only in such situations. But, yes, it is one of the

factors for sure, in any prediction, provided the qurent (or the

person who should undergo the result of that prediction) is aware of

this prediction.

This is just one part of the answer to your thoughts. The other

question is Icha (Strong Desire/Consciousness/Will) can modify the

physical environment, or future (of people or circumstances) which is

not directly connected to the person who is willing or imagining. Or

in other words, whether the consciousness of a person can change the

circumstances that are NOT directly or indirectly connected to him?

That is purely another question, and even though even " Bhagavat Gita "

and all Indian system of thoughts supports it, I am no body to

comment on the subject, or to compare it with the view of science,

which is another uncertain field while dealing with such matters. No

body has an answer to it in the scientific world, and how can we

boast to have one with ourselves.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

> Sorry to be going off at a tangent from pure astrology all the time

> but I thought I must tell this on this forum.

>

> We were talking of graha dristi and that I presume is related to

> icha?

>

> I have an acquantiance / friend who visits me sometimes. About a

> month back he told me that his father was unwell and had a strong

> desire to die. His father too was an astrologer. He predicted for

> himself that he will not survive beyond 3rd May this year. Third

May

> also happened to be my friend's birthday.

>

> Yesterday he dropped by and told me that his father expired on the

> 4th May in " subha " hours.

>

> The person had a strong desire to die because he was suffering. But

> to have timed his own death so accurately was amazing. He was

> undergoing his third cycle of Sade Saathi.

>

> I couldn;t get his birth details in the given circumstances, but

> maybe i will do so later for this forum.

>

> Another amazing thing, I was told that happened was that this

> person's sister-in-law who had been living in the same house for

> many years, since she became a widow when young, passed away the

> following day. There was once again a strong icha at work here.

>

> Why I am wrtiing this is to know from esteemed astrologers on this

> forum about the role of icha in our charts to shape events in our

> life.

>

> My guru has been saying that THIS MOMENT is inevitable but the NEXT

> MOMENT is full of a million possibilities.

>

> The RESPONSE TO THIS MOMENT is in our hands....I suppose it is how

> we act...our karma.

>

> But the next moment is something so uncertain....something like the

> motions of sub-atomic particles....that can it be influenced by

> consciousness / icha???

>

> Would like to hear the opinion of esteemed members!

>

> Love,

>

> Vinita

>