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Dear All, I have written a simple mail on Sohamsa , appreciating a mail by PVR. It was sent back by the moderater 'Sanjay Rath' with the subject line 'Message not approved', and the comment 'Message too personal' !!! Just have a look at it. I enjoyed it!!! Love, Sreenadh

 

Sreenadh. too personal..send it to him privately

 

> Dear PVR ji,

> This thread really seems interesting and gives food for thought.

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> sohamsa , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manoj ji,

> >

> > I agree and that is why I used the adjective " irresponsible " .

> >

> > However, it must be added that " erudite astrologers " have verified

> and confirmed different lagnas in this case. Pt Sanjay Rath thinks

> that Gemini lagna chart is correct and Sri KN Rao apparently thinks

> that Taurus lagna chart is correct. Both seemingly said that the time

> is critical for him, using two different charts. Though both made the

> correct call, obviously one of them is (or possibly both of them are)

> using a wrong chart.

> >

> > And, on vedic astrology , a gentleman claimed that he

> personally met an astrologer who was consulted by Pramod Mahajan.

> Apparently, the latter read Pramod Mahajan's chart that was prepared

> at birth. According to him, Mahajan has Sagittarius lagna! After

> Mahajan's passing away, this gentleman contacted that astrologer

> again and confirmed that lagna is Sg.

> >

> > Though people may not like hearing this, I will make one honest

> observation here. If a reasonably accurate chart is given, i.e.

> birthtime is in the ball-park of the correct time and the error is 10

> min or less, then we seem to do a good job of rectifying the chart

> and making correct predictions. Even students who have been leaning

> for a year or two seem to be able to come to a consensus on the

> correct birthtime and make good predictions. I see it practically in

> my own Sunday classes near Boston.

> >

> > However, if two or three totally different charts are given, we

> seem to be more susceptible to making bad calls. Especially, if the

> correct chart is hidden and 2 or 3 wrong charts are circulated, we do

> not seem to be able to always identify that none of the circulated

> charts is correct and end up picking up one of the charts.

> >

> > In some mathematical optimization problems, solution is possible

> only if you start close to the " global " optimum. Otherwise, you may

> end up with a " local " optimum and not reach the global optimum. I

> wonder if we have such an issue.

> >

> > In any case, I did see in several cases (e.g. Vajpayee, Kerry,

> Sonia, Mahajan, Karunanidhi) that very good astrologers end

> up " verifying " and endorsing totally different charts and sometimes

> all of them are wrong too.

> >

> > On a personal note, I think there was an egoistic reason for my

> prediction without a lot of ground work. On that day, I spent 15.5

> hours meditating with a Vedamantra, starting at sunrise and ending in

> the night. I was feeling very blissful at the end. Still, I guess I

> was overcome by moha (delusion) and thought that Pramod Mahajan's

> survival would be good for the country. Moreover, I thought that my

> making a positive prediction after such a " long sadhana " would help

> his case. Obviously, that was quite egoistic and foolish of me. As

> long as that ego and sense of doership remains, no amount of sadhana

> is fully useful. The goal of all sadhana is to merge one's

> consciousness with the supreme consciousness and merge one's will

> power with the divine will. Until that happens, I guess such stupid

> thoughts keep coming. In any case, I wanted to make a positive

> prediction and spent 5 minutes with the chart given by Pt Sanjay Rath

> and saw that Jaimini's longevity rules show a long life in the chart.

> Then I was happy and went ahead. It is quite appropriate that a

> prediction based on subtle egotism came back to teach a lesson or two

> in egotism.

> >

> > Bottomline is: I did concede that I was irresponsible. But, if you

> listen to the free mp3 audio of our classes at Boston, you will see

> that we normally do our astrology very responsibly and

> systematically. I can only try to improve.

> >

> > May the light of Brahman shine within,

> > Narasimha

> > -------------------------------

> > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > -------------------------------

> >

> > > Dear PVR ji,

> > >

> > > An erudite astrologer like you should have verified Mithuna

> lagna horoscope first before attempting to give out a prediction on

> that. Thats my humble suggestion.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Manoj

> > >

> > > childofdevi <childofdevi@> wrote:

> > > Dear PVR-ji,

> > >

> > > Even though the prediction did not happen, your humility is very

> > > admirable especially considering how deeply knowledgeable you

> are. The

> > > light of Brahman has indeed shined through:-).

> > >

> > > With respects and best regards,

> > > -Vijay

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > >

> > > > I humbly accept my failure in this particular case. I went by

> > > Jaimini's " 3 parts rule " for determining the longevity. With the

> > > Gemini lagna chart given by Pt Sanjay Rath, I get long life (72-

> 108

> > > years) with my understanding of the rule of 3 parts. Though he is

> > > running maraka dasas as per the natal chart as well as the annual

> > > chart, I went by the " long life " expectation and thought that he

> would

> > > survive the maraka dasas in annual chart until June 26. I humbly

> > > accept my failure.

> > > >

> > > > > One must never take any astro predictions seriously.

> > > > > I for one would from now on never seek to consult an

> astrologer.

> > > >

> > > > I think we need to improve, but I am not as pessimistic. In my

> > > Sunday classes at Boston, we usually take up one chart in each

> class

> > > and spend a little more than an hour rectifying the birthtime

> based on

> > > known events and then make predictions in the next hour. There

> have

> > > been so many occasions when students confirmed a few months later

> that

> > > the prediction of the class came perfectly true for them, their

> > > relatives and friends.

> > > >

> > > > All of us make many correct predictions and some wrong ones too.

> > > Especially in celebrity charts, we sometimes don't spend enough

> time

> > > and still overenthusiastically (and irresponsibly) make

> predictions

> > > with data that may not be accurate or fully rectified. Such is the

> > > power of maya that celebrity charts are sometimes simply

> irresistible.

> > > Of course, in some cases, failure is not due to a wrong time, but

> due

> > > to over-reliance on a fallible technique.

> > > >

> > > > > Better to trust in God ... Chant His name!!

> > > >

> > > > I wouldn't contest that one. Chanting His name (or Her name) is

> > > anyday better than doing astrology. But then, both can be done.

> > > >

> > > > May the light of Brahman shine within,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > -------------------------------

> > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> > > > -------------------------------

> >