Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Dear All, Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this question that I have. In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or was it ALWAYS there? No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having planted the seed via this new thread. Thanks Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 It was Vishnu Ji is MAYA who created this universe Hare Krishna --- On Thu, 11/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... Thursday, 11 February, 2010, 2:25 AM Â Dear All, Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this question that I have. In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or was it ALWAYS there? No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having planted the seed via this new thread. Thanks Rohiniranjan Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Maya comes in the yuga of dwaparyug..That's when duality enters our world..Dwa- meaning dwayt(two)..World divides into two..The same time krishna comes in the picture.. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear All, > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this question that I have. > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or was it ALWAYS there? > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having planted the seed via this new thread. > > Thanks > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 My opinion is that MAYA existed always. First of all , I am not knowledgeable and have no basis or facts for my opinion.. My understanding of MAYA is that it is illusion. Illusion is a state of mind where some thing which is not real appears to be real and that mind accepts it as a fact. If different Yugs existed then it is conceivable that the human mind was at a different state of awareness at different time is our past and possibly could separate real from unreal ( absence of illusion). When did the mind arrive at this state or it was always like this is impossible to say and hard to pinpoint. Hindu literature talks about illusion and outlines the impact of illusion on the state of our life ( contentment, happiness or lack thereof). Humans ( as we are today) all seem to have illusions . Child has illusions which older people may not have, similarly well informed and disciplined souls may have lesser illusion than most of us. Above is just a point of view and no analytical proof. I will be reading with interest members view on this important subject. Thanks RR ji for starting this topic. Ashok Goswami --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:12 AM  Maya comes in the yuga of dwaparyug..That' s when duality enters our world..Dwa- meaning dwayt(two).. World divides into two..The same time krishna comes in the picture.. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All, > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this question that I have. > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or was it ALWAYS there? > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having planted the seed via this new thread. > > Thanks > > Rohiniranjan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Dear Rohiniranjan, This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always there no matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my understanding. Regards, Chandrashekhar. On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > Dear All, > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this > question that I have. > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or > was it ALWAYS there? > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having > planted the seed via this new thread. > > Thanks > > Rohiniranjan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! Regards, Rohiniranjan , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always there no > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my understanding. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this > > question that I have. > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > Thanks > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 sir, MAYA - A Classical Dictionary of Hindu Mythology & Religion – John Dowson. MAYA – " Illusion, deception " Illusion personified as a form of female form of celestial origin, created for purpose of beguiling some individual. Regards Kulbir Bains. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always there no > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my understanding. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this > > > question that I have. > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Sir, The term Maya refers to ignorance.In the context of the most 4 some equation of life>Dharma ,Ardha,Kama and Moksha<Maya is a thin veil which difficult to analyse and feels it;s presence.In a way this is the Maya which makes humans to err in their comprehension and understanding of universe. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar Re: QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... Thursday, February 11, 2010, 12:19 PM  Dear Rohiniranjan, This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always there no matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my understanding. Regards, Chandrashekhar. On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > Dear All, > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this > question that I have. > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the picture? Or > was it ALWAYS there? > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make work > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having > planted the seed via this new thread. > > Thanks > > Rohiniranjan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Dear Rohini Ranjan, Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day politicians at their time. :-) Regards, Chandrashekhar On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always there no > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > understanding. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this > > > question that I have. > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > picture? Or > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > work > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA of the YUGAs RR , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > politicians at their time. :-) > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always there no > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > understanding. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and familiar with > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer this > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > picture? Or > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > > work > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to you if > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions too, but > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, I need > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for having > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Well, it is said that in each yuga the dharma lost one leg out of the original four it had in Satyuga. Since I take the meaning of Dharma as righteous duties, its decline certainly has led to this yuga. Regards, Chandrashekhar. On 2/13/2010 4:28 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline > that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA > of the YUGAs > > RR > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > > politicians at their time. :-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always > there no > > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and > familiar with > > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer > this > > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > > picture? Or > > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > > > work > > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to > you if > > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions > too, but > > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, > I need > > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for > having > > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 And the quadruped has lost nearly all its locomotion and therefore seems like it is here to stay, forever :-) RR_, , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Well, it is said that in each yuga the dharma lost one leg out of the > original four it had in Satyuga. Since I take the meaning of Dharma as > righteous duties, its decline certainly has led to this yuga. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > On 2/13/2010 4:28 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline > > that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA > > of the YUGAs > > > > RR > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > > > politicians at their time. :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > > > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > > > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > > > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always > > there no > > > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and > > familiar with > > > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer > > this > > > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > > > picture? Or > > > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > > > > work > > > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to > > you if > > > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions > > too, but > > > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, > > I need > > > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for > > having > > > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I think maya is a concept where unreal things . objects, thoughts appear to be real and the mind concludes unreal to be real. I am not knowledgeable enough and I know that many members are lott more aware of Hindu thought and spirituality, It is said that the whole world is Maya. If that was to be true then all the Yugs are also Maya. If on the other hand we conclude that our ( human ) ability to decipher between real and unreal has deteriorated over a period of time ( Yugs) due to deterioration of Dharma and other such elements, then world must have real and unreal elements co existing and we have lost the ability to know the difference. I am eager to learn . Ashok Goswami --- On Sat, 2/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... Saturday, February 13, 2010, 2:46 PM Â And the quadruped has lost nearly all its locomotion and therefore seems like it is here to stay, forever :-) RR_, , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har wrote: > > Well, it is said that in each yuga the dharma lost one leg out of the > original four it had in Satyuga. Since I take the meaning of Dharma as > righteous duties, its decline certainly has led to this yuga. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > On 2/13/2010 4:28 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline > > that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA > > of the YUGAs > > > > RR > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > > > politicians at their time. :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > > > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > > > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > > > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always > > there no > > > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and > > familiar with > > > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer > > this > > > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > > > picture? Or > > > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > > > > work > > > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to > > you if > > > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions > > too, but > > > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, > > I need > > > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for > > having > > > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Dear Sir, Please explore some of the buddhist scriptures as well, if you can. A quick search on google will reveal many good articles. A huge body of web-literature related to Buddhism is available. Please study with an open and receptive mind at first :-) Best Regards, Rohiniranjan , PG <darshan261 wrote: > > I think maya is a concept where unreal things . objects, thoughts appear to be real and the mind concludes unreal to be real. I am not knowledgeable enough and I know that many members are lott more aware of Hindu thought and spirituality, It is said that the whole world is Maya. If that was to be true then all the Yugs are also Maya. If on the other hand we conclude that our ( human ) ability to decipher between real and unreal has deteriorated over a period of time ( Yugs) due to deterioration of Dharma and other such elements, then world must have real and unreal elements co existing and we have lost the ability to know the difference. > > I am eager to learn . > Ashok Goswami > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... > > Saturday, February 13, 2010, 2:46 PM > Â > > > And the quadruped has lost nearly all its locomotion and therefore seems like it is here to stay, forever :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, it is said that in each yuga the dharma lost one leg out of the > > > original four it had in Satyuga. Since I take the meaning of Dharma as > > > righteous duties, its decline certainly has led to this yuga. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:28 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline > > > > that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA > > > > of the YUGAs > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > > > > > politicians at their time. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > > > > > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > > > > > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > > > > > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always > > > > there no > > > > > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and > > > > familiar with > > > > > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer > > > > this > > > > > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > > > > > picture? Or > > > > > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to > > > > you if > > > > > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions > > > > too, but > > > > > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, > > > > I need > > > > > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for > > > > having > > > > > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks Rohni Ranjan Ji; I will read articles about Buddhism. I respect your intellect and advise. Thanks Ashok Goswami --- On Sat, 2/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... Saturday, February 13, 2010, 3:36 PM  Dear Sir, Please explore some of the buddhist scriptures as well, if you can. A quick search on google will reveal many good articles. A huge body of web-literature related to Buddhism is available. Please study with an open and receptive mind at first :-) Best Regards, Rohiniranjan , PG <darshan261@ ...> wrote: > > I think maya is a concept where unreal things . objects, thoughts appear to be real and the mind concludes unreal to be real. I am not knowledgeable enough and I know that many members are lott more aware of Hindu thought and spirituality, It is said that the whole world is Maya. If that was to be true then all the Yugs are also Maya. If on the other hand we conclude that our ( human ) ability to decipher between real and unreal has deteriorated over a period of time ( Yugs) due to deterioration of Dharma and other such elements, then world must have real and unreal elements co existing and we have lost the ability to know the difference. > > I am eager to learn . > Ashok Goswami > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: QUESTION: Birthdata for MAYA... > > Saturday, February 13, 2010, 2:46 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > And the quadruped has lost nearly all its locomotion and therefore seems like it is here to stay, forever :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, it is said that in each yuga the dharma lost one leg out of the > > > original four it had in Satyuga. Since I take the meaning of Dharma as > > > righteous duties, its decline certainly has led to this yuga. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:28 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline > > > > that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA > > > > of the YUGAs > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > > > > > politicians at their time. :-) > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis were not > > > > > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras Maya is > > > > > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or equivalent), > > > > > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always > > > > there no > > > > > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and > > > > familiar with > > > > > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can answer > > > > this > > > > > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > > > > > picture? Or > > > > > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish to make > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to > > > > you if > > > > > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions > > > > too, but > > > > > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the topic, > > > > I need > > > > > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for > > > > having > > > > > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Yup. Chandrashekhar. On 2/14/2010 1:16 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > And the quadruped has lost nearly all its locomotion and therefore > seems like it is here to stay, forever :-) > > RR_, > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > > > Well, it is said that in each yuga the dharma lost one leg out of the > > original four it had in Satyuga. Since I take the meaning of Dharma as > > righteous duties, its decline certainly has led to this yuga. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:28 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > Well they must have done something bad to justify the moral decline > > > that has occurred over the ensuing YUGAS! Despite the clockwork MAYA > > > of the YUGAs > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > > > > > Yes, they perhaps had the advantage of not having the modern day > > > > politicians at their time. :-) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 3:59 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks ChandraShekhar jee. It is good to learn that Satyugis > were not > > > > > having any additional advantages over us Kaliyugis insofaras > Maya is > > > > > concerned and they too were putting on their shirts (or > equivalent), > > > > > one arm at a time or their padukaas one foot at a time! > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > > > > > This universe is itself Maya, of the creator, so it is always > > > there no > > > > > > matter the Yuga we are reffering to. Or at least that is my > > > > > understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 7:55 AM, rohinicrystal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there are people here who are quite well-read and > > > familiar with > > > > > > > Hindu scriptures and related texts, perhaps someone can > answer > > > this > > > > > > > question that I have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the four yuga cycles -- when exactly did MAYA enter the > > > > > picture? Or > > > > > > > was it ALWAYS there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to research too much or type a lot (I do not wish > to make > > > > > work > > > > > > > for you!) but just a capsule response and I will get back to > > > you if > > > > > > > there are questions. Others may pipe-in with their questions > > > too, but > > > > > > > please let us not get rowdy! Since I am introducing the > topic, > > > I need > > > > > > > to sound that caveat because I do not want the bad karma for > > > having > > > > > > > planted the seed via this new thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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