Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 A very good question indeed.   //What about a person who has poor self-esteem/ image, lacks confidence, afraid to make bold decisions/charge, and can't stand on their feet?//  isn't that the first step towards self realisation?  For the last few days I was feeling very low, tired, didn't feel like even looking at charts. I was taking an evening walk and as walked by a medical store, thought I shall buy some Vitamine B complex tablets. I took 2 pills a days and felt very good, physicaly, mentaly.  So what do you think - Adithya Hridaya (or any such remedies) might have worked wonders here?.  Astrology does not always advice to go for religious remedies for all & every thing. Religious activities are very personal and most do in one form or another. Deviations from certain traditions can cause problems (don't ask me about foreigners do may not have such traditions - I shall explain when time permits). Apart from the normal religious activities, a person should always look at other methods of rectifications first. If you don't learn properly and write an examination, do you think, god is going to appear and write it for you?  Personaly in the above case, I would advice a personality development course.  Any religious remedies (other than normal daily routines) work best for abnormal conditions & situations when no apparent reason or logic could be found in the predicament of a person.   This is does not undermine certain conditions which has long term effects also like propitiating the diety indicated by the 4 / 5/ 9 house, atmakaraka as per Jaimini Maharshi and the most benefic associated with the 12th from the karakamsa etc.  //How can they ever succeed with such cut-throat, ruthless competition in this materialistic/ marketplace world?//  Let us be practical here and not emotional. Every wants to succeed - there is no doubt about this. But in reality can every one do so?  You must have seen our Maruti 800 cars running on the roads. can it outrun a 2000cc BMW in any way? Maruti800 can wish to do so But.... No matter how much you spend on it, it is not going to outrun the BMW. The most we do is to keep it running well and get the best from it - do the repairs and servicing at regular interval.  In simple terms the Maruti800 instead of wishing & trying to outrun BMW (which could do more damage)  should concentrate on running well without accidents and much injury within its capacity.  A person came to me once with similar wish. He was an aggressive share trader comming from a poor family but didn't make much and had debts also, a very knowledgeable person. After checking his chart, I didn't find any raja yogas that will make him a rich person. I told him this frankly and told him that his conditions shall improve in a short while. fortunately he took it positively and now working in a small firm ( making nothing much, but enough for his family) - very happy and slowely got out of his debts (stopped share trading). Some people don't take such things positively and keep on waiting.  Hope you got the point.  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: Offering to Sun Sunday, February 7, 2010, 8:52 PM  Dear Shenoy-Ji, What about a person who has poor self-esteem/ image, lacks confidence, afraid to make bold decisions/charge, and can't stand on their feet? How can they ever succeed with such cut-throat, ruthless competition in this materialistic/ marketplace world? Without any strength to those planets they will get crushed by everyone don't you think? Lilly , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > // Sun is too weak in my chart// or such general statements.  > > I suppose what rohini jee was trying to say is not properly understood. > > Perhaps that is how the almighty intended - who knows what Sun might do if it gets too powerful, > > Contrary to many beliefs, I have found that Very strong planets do create problems. One such problem is Excema & sporiasis- too much influence of Very strong Jupiter, Mercury, Saturn or Mars - given different kinds of these diseases. In fact this is what is implied in Ayurvedic texts also. > > So one must be carefull when trying to " strengthen " the weak - which could have been a boon disguise. > > When a car is manufactured, there will be weak & strong areas some done intentionaly (crumble zones) . A horoscope also may have such crumble zones. Understand them well before venturing into strengthening them. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! RR_, , " gauravkom " <gauravkom wrote: > > Dear RR ji, > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > Gaurav > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Gaurav, > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Ay Dada! With 9 planets, 10 digits, and 12 different houses that MA has to attend, when does MA get to love all her children equally? Of course, Ma took the burden to carry and nurture them all, and is much appreciated and loved for it! But isn't it always the younger, spoiled brats that gets all her attention, and all of MA's affection? Somehow, I feel MA's HEART is more connected to the younger child, who takes away from the older, more mature siblings! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Always love your Mom, Betaa! At your birth, She showed up in your Heart Zone/Chakra and for NINE months (plus or minus) before that it was HER heart-beats alone that you experienced and listened to 24/7! > > These are not meaningless coincidences... > > Blessings, > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Good Night JR friends! It's been real & lovely. > > Now, all I need is my MOMMY, and a warm bottle of milk to make me feel all better! OR maybe, I will just have some juice readily available in my kitchen. > > > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > And yet you assume your pseudonym for ALL to see as Tigress! :-) > > > > > > Do you LOVE yourself, Lilly...? > > > > > > Rhetorical question -- of no importance to me! ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan! > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have been around cats and observed them up close, thanks to my family members love for kitties! > > > > But, fat, lazy, cunning cats really get on my last nerves! I was never really a cat person, but prefer DOGS instead, for their LOYALTY! And I also think cats sometimes are too smart for their own good. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sensitivity (sensibilité as the french call it -- though the same word means different in English ;-)) is something that comes with the territory of this /work! As a divinator!! > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever observed a cat or a kitten, seriously? Even the FAT CATS never lose their instincts ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Nor must Astrologers!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No RR-Ji, my post was not directed towards you, or anyone in particular! But, thanks for the lovely response. > > > > > > Have we been getting on your satellite, or just feeling a bit sensitive these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you chose to use my response to add your post in this thread -- I can safely assume that you wanted a response from me :-) Call me arrogant, others have before and I am used to abuse ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why this KNEE-JERK-REACTION from everyone that we hear that anything that is weak in the chart must necessarily or at any cost be strengthened, right now and within this lifetime? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consider for a moment if that 'weakness' was not introduced in the curriculum for this lifetime, not to be conquered by some amulet, mantra, fast, other stuff that would just defer the karma, or divert it for the time being? Perhaps there was an ulterior motive behind the weakness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the SOUL wished to learn how it feels to live through life with the weak sun in the horoscope as opposed to artificially strengthening it and missing out on the experience! Which SHALL return, for most of us ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Planets, irrespective of their apparent enmity and gunas etc, are really on the same team and sometimes wisdom dictates that the weak player on the team must 'team-up' (pun intended) with a stronger player who may be able to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my two cents which may be of no use to you or others in the library. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Perhaps the younger child does not TAKE anything away from the elder sibling Lilly but instead GIVES the elder an opportunity at practising MA-hood or BABA-hood as the case may be, so that when the elder really becomes a BABA or a MA, the elder is READY. Believe me. I have seen parents inadvertently calling out to their children with the name of their younger sibling, you know! From years of habit behind them. :-) I hope you do not misunderstand me. Regards, Nandini , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Ay Dada! With 9 planets, 10 digits, and 12 different houses that MA has to attend, when does MA get to love all her children equally? Of course, Ma took the burden to carry and nurture them all, and is much appreciated and loved for it! But isn't it always the younger, spoiled brats that gets all her attention, and all of MA's affection? Somehow, I feel MA's HEART is more connected to the younger child, who takes away from the older, more mature siblings! > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Always love your Mom, Betaa! At your birth, She showed up in your Heart Zone/Chakra and for NINE months (plus or minus) before that it was HER heart-beats alone that you experienced and listened to 24/7! > > > > These are not meaningless coincidences... > > > > Blessings, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good Night JR friends! It's been real & lovely. > > > Now, all I need is my MOMMY, and a warm bottle of milk to make me feel all better! OR maybe, I will just have some juice readily available in my kitchen. > > > > > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > And yet you assume your pseudonym for ALL to see as Tigress! :-) > > > > > > > > Do you LOVE yourself, Lilly...? > > > > > > > > Rhetorical question -- of no importance to me! ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan! > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have been around cats and observed them up close, thanks to my family members love for kitties! > > > > > But, fat, lazy, cunning cats really get on my last nerves! I was never really a cat person, but prefer DOGS instead, for their LOYALTY! And I also think cats sometimes are too smart for their own good. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sensitivity (sensibilité as the french call it -- though the same word means different in English ;-)) is something that comes with the territory of this /work! As a divinator!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever observed a cat or a kitten, seriously? Even the FAT CATS never lose their instincts ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor must Astrologers!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No RR-Ji, my post was not directed towards you, or anyone in particular! But, thanks for the lovely response. > > > > > > > Have we been getting on your satellite, or just feeling a bit sensitive these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you chose to use my response to add your post in this thread -- I can safely assume that you wanted a response from me :-) Call me arrogant, others have before and I am used to abuse ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why this KNEE-JERK-REACTION from everyone that we hear that anything that is weak in the chart must necessarily or at any cost be strengthened, right now and within this lifetime? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consider for a moment if that 'weakness' was not introduced in the curriculum for this lifetime, not to be conquered by some amulet, mantra, fast, other stuff that would just defer the karma, or divert it for the time being? Perhaps there was an ulterior motive behind the weakness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the SOUL wished to learn how it feels to live through life with the weak sun in the horoscope as opposed to artificially strengthening it and missing out on the experience! Which SHALL return, for most of us ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Planets, irrespective of their apparent enmity and gunas etc, are really on the same team and sometimes wisdom dictates that the weak player on the team must 'team-up' (pun intended) with a stronger player who may be able to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my two cents which may be of no use to you or others in the library. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Not all dear! But I wish the younger one's realize one day what the elders sacrifice for them. Lilly , " nandini " <kakan_leo wrote: > > Perhaps the younger child does not TAKE anything away from the elder sibling Lilly but instead GIVES the elder an opportunity at practising MA-hood or BABA-hood as the case may be, so that when the elder really becomes a BABA or a MA, the elder is READY. > > Believe me. I have seen parents inadvertently calling out to their children with the name of their younger sibling, you know! From years of habit behind them. :-) > > I hope you do not misunderstand me. > > Regards, > Nandini > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Ay Dada! With 9 planets, 10 digits, and 12 different houses that MA has to attend, when does MA get to love all her children equally? Of course, Ma took the burden to carry and nurture them all, and is much appreciated and loved for it! But isn't it always the younger, spoiled brats that gets all her attention, and all of MA's affection? Somehow, I feel MA's HEART is more connected to the younger child, who takes away from the older, more mature siblings! > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Always love your Mom, Betaa! At your birth, She showed up in your Heart Zone/Chakra and for NINE months (plus or minus) before that it was HER heart-beats alone that you experienced and listened to 24/7! > > > > > > These are not meaningless coincidences... > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Night JR friends! It's been real & lovely. > > > > Now, all I need is my MOMMY, and a warm bottle of milk to make me feel all better! OR maybe, I will just have some juice readily available in my kitchen. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And yet you assume your pseudonym for ALL to see as Tigress! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Do you LOVE yourself, Lilly...? > > > > > > > > > > Rhetorical question -- of no importance to me! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan! > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been around cats and observed them up close, thanks to my family members love for kitties! > > > > > > But, fat, lazy, cunning cats really get on my last nerves! I was never really a cat person, but prefer DOGS instead, for their LOYALTY! And I also think cats sometimes are too smart for their own good. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sensitivity (sensibilité as the french call it -- though the same word means different in English ;-)) is something that comes with the territory of this /work! As a divinator!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever observed a cat or a kitten, seriously? Even the FAT CATS never lose their instincts ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor must Astrologers!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No RR-Ji, my post was not directed towards you, or anyone in particular! But, thanks for the lovely response. > > > > > > > > Have we been getting on your satellite, or just feeling a bit sensitive these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you chose to use my response to add your post in this thread -- I can safely assume that you wanted a response from me :-) Call me arrogant, others have before and I am used to abuse ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why this KNEE-JERK-REACTION from everyone that we hear that anything that is weak in the chart must necessarily or at any cost be strengthened, right now and within this lifetime? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consider for a moment if that 'weakness' was not introduced in the curriculum for this lifetime, not to be conquered by some amulet, mantra, fast, other stuff that would just defer the karma, or divert it for the time being? Perhaps there was an ulterior motive behind the weakness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the SOUL wished to learn how it feels to live through life with the weak sun in the horoscope as opposed to artificially strengthening it and missing out on the experience! Which SHALL return, for most of us ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Planets, irrespective of their apparent enmity and gunas etc, are really on the same team and sometimes wisdom dictates that the weak player on the team must 'team-up' (pun intended) with a stronger player who may be able to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my two cents which may be of no use to you or others in the library. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Perhaps Lilly! You know there are areas in our life where we have to give love unconditionally without expecting anything back from those areas. Such is our karma. But then there are those areas in our life from where we get LOVE unconditionally, without having deserved that in anyway! At least that is what our current lifetime memory would say. Aagey, Pichhey, Kaun jaaney! Regards, Nandini , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Not all dear! But I wish the younger one's realize one day what the elders sacrifice for them. > > Lilly > , " nandini " <kakan_leo@> wrote: > > > > Perhaps the younger child does not TAKE anything away from the elder sibling Lilly but instead GIVES the elder an opportunity at practising MA-hood or BABA-hood as the case may be, so that when the elder really becomes a BABA or a MA, the elder is READY. > > > > Believe me. I have seen parents inadvertently calling out to their children with the name of their younger sibling, you know! From years of habit behind them. :-) > > > > I hope you do not misunderstand me. > > > > Regards, > > Nandini > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ay Dada! With 9 planets, 10 digits, and 12 different houses that MA has to attend, when does MA get to love all her children equally? Of course, Ma took the burden to carry and nurture them all, and is much appreciated and loved for it! But isn't it always the younger, spoiled brats that gets all her attention, and all of MA's affection? Somehow, I feel MA's HEART is more connected to the younger child, who takes away from the older, more mature siblings! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Always love your Mom, Betaa! At your birth, She showed up in your Heart Zone/Chakra and for NINE months (plus or minus) before that it was HER heart-beats alone that you experienced and listened to 24/7! > > > > > > > > These are not meaningless coincidences... > > > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Night JR friends! It's been real & lovely. > > > > > Now, all I need is my MOMMY, and a warm bottle of milk to make me feel all better! OR maybe, I will just have some juice readily available in my kitchen. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > And yet you assume your pseudonym for ALL to see as Tigress! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you LOVE yourself, Lilly...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rhetorical question -- of no importance to me! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan! > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been around cats and observed them up close, thanks to my family members love for kitties! > > > > > > > But, fat, lazy, cunning cats really get on my last nerves! I was never really a cat person, but prefer DOGS instead, for their LOYALTY! And I also think cats sometimes are too smart for their own good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sensitivity (sensibilité as the french call it -- though the same word means different in English ;-)) is something that comes with the territory of this /work! As a divinator!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever observed a cat or a kitten, seriously? Even the FAT CATS never lose their instincts ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor must Astrologers!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No RR-Ji, my post was not directed towards you, or anyone in particular! But, thanks for the lovely response. > > > > > > > > > Have we been getting on your satellite, or just feeling a bit sensitive these days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since you chose to use my response to add your post in this thread -- I can safely assume that you wanted a response from me :-) Call me arrogant, others have before and I am used to abuse ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why this KNEE-JERK-REACTION from everyone that we hear that anything that is weak in the chart must necessarily or at any cost be strengthened, right now and within this lifetime? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consider for a moment if that 'weakness' was not introduced in the curriculum for this lifetime, not to be conquered by some amulet, mantra, fast, other stuff that would just defer the karma, or divert it for the time being? Perhaps there was an ulterior motive behind the weakness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the SOUL wished to learn how it feels to live through life with the weak sun in the horoscope as opposed to artificially strengthening it and missing out on the experience! Which SHALL return, for most of us ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Planets, irrespective of their apparent enmity and gunas etc, are really on the same team and sometimes wisdom dictates that the weak player on the team must 'team-up' (pun intended) with a stronger player who may be able to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my two cents which may be of no use to you or others in the library. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Swami Vivekananada was an epitome of self-confidence, extremely high intelligence, the very image of strength. His sun was weak in shadbala. However, his atmakaraka was very strong and in good 'hands'! But that is neither here nor there, so I will not waste the time of wise members. RR_, , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Dear Shenoy-Ji, > What about a person who has poor self-esteem/image, lacks confidence, afraid to make bold decisions/charge, and can't stand on their feet? How can they ever succeed with such cut-throat, ruthless competition in this materialistic/ marketplace world? Without any strength to those planets they will get crushed by everyone don't you think? > > > Lilly > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > // Sun is too weak in my chart// or such general statements. > > > > I suppose what rohini jee was trying to say is not properly understood. > > > > Perhaps that is how the almighty intended - who knows what Sun might do if it gets too powerful, > > > > Contrary to many beliefs, I have found that Very strong planets do create problems. One such problem is Excema & sporiasis- too much influence of Very strong Jupiter, Mercury, Saturn or Mars - given different kinds of these diseases. In fact this is what is implied in Ayurvedic texts also. > > > > So one must be carefull when trying to " strengthen " the weak - which could have been a boon disguise. > > > > When a car is manufactured, there will be weak & strong areas some done intentionaly (crumble zones) . A horoscope also may have such crumble zones. Understand them well before venturing into strengthening them. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > RR_, > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji, > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > RR_, > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 By the way what is Aasta channel? Lilly , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Would the outcome had been any different if you had opted for counselling instead to come to grips with the reality of the terribly painful situation, my dear? Listen -- I do not wish to probe this here on a public forum and cause you more pain, but I do wish to make a point and that is simply this: Lots of people opt for all kind of remedies ranging from listening to CDs or mantra-jaap and some that are pretty costly and it all goes in a somewhat hush hush manner. No one really ever gets to hear the 'follow-up' story. Did it work? How often?? Would the situation have rectified itself, given sufficient time??? I am all for faith and I TRULY believe in the power of the INNER HEALER in individual cases, but this should not become or be claimed as something that would work for everyone, no matter what. THIS kind of reckless prescription of spiritual remedies can cause serious damage to individuals who are not in their best place mentally and without fully understanding their mental state, any jyotishi or whosoever prescribes remedies in a superficial manner invites a very serious karmic reprise, no matter whether they are offering it for FREE or charging small or large sums of money or other form of energy exchange. One of the most 'subtle' energy exchange that many people do not consider is just the 'feeling of having helped someone, even if without strings in a worldly sense'. One should NEVER induce FALSE HOPE in anyone, whether known or a stranger! I see a lot of that happening/occuring on the internet, especially in public fora and the repercussions are really serious. I will hold my beak on this matter because I do not wish to upset people who think they are helping others out of the goodness of their heart. Unfortunately -- Heart is often clueless when it comes to Karma! Even mind that gets pretty closer to that realm in terms of understanding does not fully get it! So what does, if it does...? A deeper part of the being which is neither the mind, nor the heart nor the soul. It is called CONSCIENCE! Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am not sure if counseling would have worked for me or not! But, I do know that emotional pain can be managed, or reduced by keeping a positive attitude, and a strong FAITH-that things will get better one day! And, also PATIENCE goes a long way when it comes to HEALING.. That FAITH alone gave me the COURAGE to move forward in life. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Would the outcome had been any different if you had opted for counselling instead to come to grips with the reality of the terribly painful situation, my dear? > > Listen -- I do not wish to probe this here on a public forum and cause you more pain, but I do wish to make a point and that is simply this: Lots of people opt for all kind of remedies ranging from listening to CDs or mantra-jaap and some that are pretty costly and it all goes in a somewhat hush hush manner. No one really ever gets to hear the 'follow-up' story. Did it work? How often?? Would the situation have rectified itself, given sufficient time??? > > I am all for faith and I TRULY believe in the power of the INNER HEALER in individual cases, but this should not become or be claimed as something that would work for everyone, no matter what. THIS kind of reckless prescription of spiritual remedies can cause serious damage to individuals who are not in their best place mentally and without fully understanding their mental state, any jyotishi or whosoever prescribes remedies in a superficial manner invites a very serious karmic reprise, no matter whether they are offering it for FREE or charging small or large sums of money or other form of energy exchange. One of the most 'subtle' energy exchange that many people do not consider is just the 'feeling of having helped someone, even if without strings in a worldly sense'. One should NEVER induce FALSE HOPE in anyone, whether known or a stranger! > > I see a lot of that happening/occuring on the internet, especially in public fora and the repercussions are really serious. > > I will hold my beak on this matter because I do not wish to upset people who think they are helping others out of the goodness of their heart. Unfortunately -- Heart is often clueless when it comes to Karma! Even mind that gets pretty closer to that realm in terms of understanding does not fully get it! > > So what does, if it does...? A deeper part of the being which is neither the mind, nor the heart nor the soul. It is called CONSCIENCE! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 There you go again...! I was not suggesting counselling for you, Lilly! That said, please step back and ponder on this: Even those who embrace counselling -- regardless of the " depth " of such therapy must first acquire a certain amount of FAITH, RAPPORT and TRANSFERENCE even! Without these very HUMAN INTERACTIVE ELEMENTS even Freud or Jung would not know how to proceed or where to go! Also, now we are dangerously swaying far away from the central core of this forum and the permitted frontiers! Did you check out the image that I uploaded, recently, here? Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > I am not sure if counseling would have worked for me or not! But, I do know that emotional pain can be managed, or reduced by keeping a positive attitude, and a strong FAITH-that things will get better one day! And, also PATIENCE goes a long way when it comes to HEALING.. > That FAITH alone gave me the COURAGE to move forward in life. > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Would the outcome had been any different if you had opted for counselling instead to come to grips with the reality of the terribly painful situation, my dear? > > > > Listen -- I do not wish to probe this here on a public forum and cause you more pain, but I do wish to make a point and that is simply this: Lots of people opt for all kind of remedies ranging from listening to CDs or mantra-jaap and some that are pretty costly and it all goes in a somewhat hush hush manner. No one really ever gets to hear the 'follow-up' story. Did it work? How often?? Would the situation have rectified itself, given sufficient time??? > > > > I am all for faith and I TRULY believe in the power of the INNER HEALER in individual cases, but this should not become or be claimed as something that would work for everyone, no matter what. THIS kind of reckless prescription of spiritual remedies can cause serious damage to individuals who are not in their best place mentally and without fully understanding their mental state, any jyotishi or whosoever prescribes remedies in a superficial manner invites a very serious karmic reprise, no matter whether they are offering it for FREE or charging small or large sums of money or other form of energy exchange. One of the most 'subtle' energy exchange that many people do not consider is just the 'feeling of having helped someone, even if without strings in a worldly sense'. One should NEVER induce FALSE HOPE in anyone, whether known or a stranger! > > > > I see a lot of that happening/occuring on the internet, especially in public fora and the repercussions are really serious. > > > > I will hold my beak on this matter because I do not wish to upset people who think they are helping others out of the goodness of their heart. Unfortunately -- Heart is often clueless when it comes to Karma! Even mind that gets pretty closer to that realm in terms of understanding does not fully get it! > > > > So what does, if it does...? A deeper part of the being which is neither the mind, nor the heart nor the soul. It is called CONSCIENCE! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Why is the font so tine, tiny..I can't read a thing! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > There you go again...! > I was not suggesting counselling for you, Lilly! > > That said, please step back and ponder on this: Even those who embrace counselling -- regardless of the " depth " of such therapy must first acquire a certain amount of FAITH, RAPPORT and TRANSFERENCE even! > > Without these very HUMAN INTERACTIVE ELEMENTS even Freud or Jung would not know how to proceed or where to go! > > Also, now we are dangerously swaying far away from the central core of this forum and the permitted frontiers! Did you check out the image that I uploaded, recently, here? > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > I am not sure if counseling would have worked for me or not! But, I do know that emotional pain can be managed, or reduced by keeping a positive attitude, and a strong FAITH-that things will get better one day! And, also PATIENCE goes a long way when it comes to HEALING.. > > That FAITH alone gave me the COURAGE to move forward in life. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Would the outcome had been any different if you had opted for counselling instead to come to grips with the reality of the terribly painful situation, my dear? > > > > > > Listen -- I do not wish to probe this here on a public forum and cause you more pain, but I do wish to make a point and that is simply this: Lots of people opt for all kind of remedies ranging from listening to CDs or mantra-jaap and some that are pretty costly and it all goes in a somewhat hush hush manner. No one really ever gets to hear the 'follow-up' story. Did it work? How often?? Would the situation have rectified itself, given sufficient time??? > > > > > > I am all for faith and I TRULY believe in the power of the INNER HEALER in individual cases, but this should not become or be claimed as something that would work for everyone, no matter what. THIS kind of reckless prescription of spiritual remedies can cause serious damage to individuals who are not in their best place mentally and without fully understanding their mental state, any jyotishi or whosoever prescribes remedies in a superficial manner invites a very serious karmic reprise, no matter whether they are offering it for FREE or charging small or large sums of money or other form of energy exchange. One of the most 'subtle' energy exchange that many people do not consider is just the 'feeling of having helped someone, even if without strings in a worldly sense'. One should NEVER induce FALSE HOPE in anyone, whether known or a stranger! > > > > > > I see a lot of that happening/occuring on the internet, especially in public fora and the repercussions are really serious. > > > > > > I will hold my beak on this matter because I do not wish to upset people who think they are helping others out of the goodness of their heart. Unfortunately -- Heart is often clueless when it comes to Karma! Even mind that gets pretty closer to that realm in terms of understanding does not fully get it! > > > > > > So what does, if it does...? A deeper part of the being which is neither the mind, nor the heart nor the soul. It is called CONSCIENCE! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > > > > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump'. That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > > > > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes...!) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar-aaloo-chaanwal/roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee,curd,sandalwood paste,honey,petals of oleandar(kaner)or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog.com/0mofferingtosunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 It is a TV channel from India Lilly ________________________________ Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Tue, 9 February, 2010 2:24:09 AM Re: Offering to Sun  By the way what is Aasta channel? Lilly , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump' . That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes... !) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar- aaloo-chaanwal/ roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee, curd,sandalwood paste,honey, petals of oleandar(kaner) or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog. com/0mofferingto sunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Good parables.It is a positive influence of Jyotish.//PATIENCE goes a long way when it comes to HEALING..That FAITH alone gave me the COURAGE to move forward in life.// Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: Offering to Sun Monday, February 8, 2010, 10:27 PM  I am not sure if counseling would have worked for me or not! But, I do know that emotional pain can be managed, or reduced by keeping a positive attitude, and a strong FAITH-that things will get better one day! And, also PATIENCE goes a long way when it comes to HEALING.. That FAITH alone gave me the COURAGE to move forward in life. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > Would the outcome had been any different if you had opted for counselling instead to come to grips with the reality of the terribly painful situation, my dear? > > Listen -- I do not wish to probe this here on a public forum and cause you more pain, but I do wish to make a point and that is simply this: Lots of people opt for all kind of remedies ranging from listening to CDs or mantra-jaap and some that are pretty costly and it all goes in a somewhat hush hush manner. No one really ever gets to hear the 'follow-up' story. Did it work? How often?? Would the situation have rectified itself, given sufficient time??? > > I am all for faith and I TRULY believe in the power of the INNER HEALER in individual cases, but this should not become or be claimed as something that would work for everyone, no matter what. THIS kind of reckless prescription of spiritual remedies can cause serious damage to individuals who are not in their best place mentally and without fully understanding their mental state, any jyotishi or whosoever prescribes remedies in a superficial manner invites a very serious karmic reprise, no matter whether they are offering it for FREE or charging small or large sums of money or other form of energy exchange. One of the most 'subtle' energy exchange that many people do not consider is just the 'feeling of having helped someone, even if without strings in a worldly sense'. One should NEVER induce FALSE HOPE in anyone, whether known or a stranger! > > I see a lot of that happening/occuring on the internet, especially in public fora and the repercussions are really serious. > > I will hold my beak on this matter because I do not wish to upset people who think they are helping others out of the goodness of their heart. Unfortunately -- Heart is often clueless when it comes to Karma! Even mind that gets pretty closer to that realm in terms of understanding does not fully get it! > > So what does, if it does...? A deeper part of the being which is neither the mind, nor the heart nor the soul. It is called CONSCIENCE! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump' . That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes... !) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar- aaloo-chaanwal/ roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee, curd,sandalwood paste,honey, petals of oleandar(kaner) or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog. com/0mofferingto sunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Talks more about Shri Ramdev baba ji efforts and his deemed university at Haridwar Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Santhosh <santhosh10 wrote: Santhosh <santhosh10 Re: Re: Offering to Sun Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:23 AM  It is a TV channel from India Lilly ____________ _________ _________ __ Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > Tue, 9 February, 2010 2:24:09 AM Re: Offering to Sun  By the way what is Aasta channel? Lilly , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > Yes, actually after some grieving the relationship that had ended, took a new turn, to something more meaningful! And after all this time we both moved on, to our own pursuit, yet still hold a special place for each other..We still have fond memories of the GOOD times we shared together, and he will always be a part of my life(in a good way!). > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Yes, but did it bring back your relationship or another equivalent relationship? I am sorry if I am causing you discomfort because obviously the topic must hurt you quite a bit, so my apologies for bringing it up. > > > > You were vulnerable and utilized the CD and your inner mental resources to climb out of the 'emotional-dump' . That is not remedy but just auto-therapy. Your reaction to a bad situation changed, but the bad situation did not change because of listening to the CD or watching Asthaa channel. That is what was my point. > > > > If all Jyotish Remedies were supposed to do was to replace the grief-counsellor or therapist, then we should probably also get some training in counselling in addition to learning astrology. Otherwise someday one would end up with a law-suit. While the law does not control astrological counselling, anyone practicing psychological counselling without a license or training may have some explaining to do to the prevailing law in the country! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > Some of the most intense communion I have had with the God, higher power was when I was alone listening to a audio CD! I had just ended a relationship and I was at my most weakest, vulnerable times of my life, felt all alone, disconnected with everyone in this universe. As I put on the CD I felt some strong energy pulling me towards it, and it felt like those word were being spoken just for me! Telling me everything will be okay..I felt so relived, as if someone was listening to me and was their to guide me. But, again I am not sure about any dissolution of KARMA! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > I doubt seriously, though, if listening to CDs or watching the Aastha or Bhakti channel is going to get anyone sufficient brownie points to defer or dissolve the cake of Karma away! > > > > > > > > But whatever works for you works for you -- I suppose...! > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji, > > > > > My example was more towards inner introspection rather than pointing about the maturity level of a person for doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > Possibly you were not able to fully relate to the meaning driven in the statement. > > > > > > > > > > A lot of times, we relate remedies for results and forget the inner self while doing the remedies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > > > > > > > What you described was a scenario that involved immature children who should never wander into a desert without their MA (or Baba!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish_remedies work for slightly older children who have learned the hard way (several lifetimes... !) and have learned to fill the thermos with cold water (spiritual practice) and remembered to carry it with them (studying and staying in school!) into the desert (THE REAL WORLD where we venture in each day to work and to bring home the mooli-gajar- aaloo-chaanwal/ roti!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Even those folks that listen to the strotras as MP3 or WMA while they commute through REALITY, nearly anaesthetized! > > > > > > > > > > > > I run into many of these here, there and everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " gauravkom " <gauravkom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can possibly listen to the Stotra CD`s in case if you are not clear with the prouniciation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly, you mentioned about cheaper ways to strengthen with proven results. I will give you a situation to do some inner introspection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine you are thirsty and walking in a desert, with all your clothes dirty, under extreme heat. When you see a stream of water, you go and drink water very fast. But in the process of drinking water, water not quenches your thirst but also trikles down to your body and cleanses your body which you might not realize as you are so thirsty to drink water. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Gaurav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is very dear and close to home, but extremely weak in my case! Are there any cheaper ways to strengthen him, with proven results? By the way I have already tried Aditya Hridya Stotra, but made too many mistakes with the pronunciation, and I don't think SUN GOD will be to happy with my mistakes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Praj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Originator Guru that recommended this remedy to the Principal indicate as to which foot (left or right?) one must stand on when offering it to Lord Sun? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun can be very picky! Details ARE Essential for Success! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for clearing that doubt! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " praj12@ " <praj12@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Friends,Senior Astrologers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read a article about how to strenghen the Sun position in a native Kundli:Here is the procedure: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Sun likes offering of water best.The lord is very pleased if the native mixes milk,grass,ghee, curd,sandalwood paste,honey, petals of oleandar(kaner) or lotus petals in water and offering it to sun standing on one foot,This ritual is said to be even more rewarding than donating a thousand cows to poor.If a Silver Tumbler is used then the reward is many times more and if Gold utensil is used the it is still better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precaution: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Always offer water to sun by Positioning your hands in upward direction,Much above your Head.As most of the people Doesn't follow this system and neither receives 10% of this ritual Benefits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > For More Details VISIT: > > > > > > > > > > http://yfrog. com/0mofferingto sunj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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