Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. with warm regards Niket Saraswat , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear ASTRO, > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > 3rd day = 4th chaper > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > 6th day = 11th chapter > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > Re: Humble request > >  > shre suresh babu ji, > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > rgds > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > Dear Kiran, > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you can neither get in net nor anywhere. > > With best wishes, > > P K Tripathy. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > Respected Sir, > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > regards > > kiran > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > It is vargottama prashna  lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is  retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > Humble request > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Niket, I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automaticaly refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. " ekaavR^ittaavashaktasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH "  I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ astroiniket <nakshtraniket Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM Respected Suresh Babu  for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. with warm regards Niket Saraswat , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear ASTRO, > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > 3rd day = 4th chaper > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > 6th day = 11th chapter > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > Re: Humble request > >  > shre suresh babu ji, > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > rgds > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > Dear Kiran, > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you can neither get in net nor anywhere. > > With best wishes, > > P K Tripathy. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > Respected Sir, > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > regards > > kiran > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > It is vargottama prashna  lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is  retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > Humble request > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Niket, > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automaticaly refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > " ekaavR^ittaavashaktasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " >  > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > Respected Suresh Babu > >  > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > with warm regards > Niket Saraswat > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > rgds > > Niket > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you can neither get in net nor anywhere. > > > With best wishes, > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > Respected Sir, > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > regards > > > kiran > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear members,I am not good at English, so unable to write long article on this topic but trying to quote here page no.16 of Durga Saptsati,46th edition published from Gita Press Gorakhpur,U.P which is itself an authority on the topic wherein you will find that all the 13 chapters of Durgasaptsati is either read in one sitting/day or all the 13 chapters are read in 7 days in this order-on 1st day-1st chapter,on 2nd day-chapter 2nd & 3rd,on 3rd day-chapter no.4th,on 4th day chapter no.5th,6th,7th,8th,on 5th day- chapter no.9th,10th,on 6th day-chapter no.11th,and on 7th day-chapter no.12th and 13th should be read serially.                                                                       \  It is also mentioned on page no.18 th of Durga Saptsati that there are different orders of reading chapters of Durgasaptsati according to many Tantras ..So in case of any dispute one should follow customary rituals of own country/locality.               In navratri it is read 9 times in 9 days, meaning thereby one time perday. With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ astroiniket <nakshtraniket Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM Respected Suresh Babu  for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. with warm regards Niket Saraswat , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear ASTRO, > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > 3rd day = 4th chaper > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > 6th day = 11th chapter > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > Re: Humble request > >  > shre suresh babu ji, > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > rgds > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Kiran, > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > Dear Kiran, > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you can neither get in net nor anywhere. > > With best wishes, > > P K Tripathy. > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > Respected Sir, > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > regards > > kiran > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > It is vargottama prashna  lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is  retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > Humble request > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Dear Niket, Namasthe, I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan). Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    Does the present Shankaracharya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. My satsangh pranams. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ astroiniket <nakshtraniket Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM Re: Respected Suresh Babu  sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Niket, > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " >  > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > Respected Suresh Babu > >  > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > with warm regards > Niket Saraswat > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > Re: Humble request > > > >  > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > rgds > > Niket > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you can neither get in net nor anywhere. > > > With best wishes, > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > Respected Sir, > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > regards > > > kiran > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 respected suresh ji, here the dispute was only that durga saptshati means 700 slokas of godes durga, not the reading, any one can read in any no of days, depend on one to ones' comfort. second there is no word trishati as per sankritit is tri shat it means 300 - no where is mentiond durga tishat or durga trishati it simply means 300 shlokas of durga. no book on this name. one may read it one day 3 day or 7 day or in 9 day it always durga saptshati. now the way of reading or reciting is depend what " parampra " we follow, but is was modified by ppl. as per old sage system if one do reciting of Durga saptshati the complete method which mentioned in vedas, it need minimum 7 hrs. so very few ppl are able to do. now we are living in pizza culture, so always try to find shortcuts, becoz we dont have time. and we dont want to invest our time in all these, but we need complete result. i just want to say humbaly there is no tri shati - there is no 300 shloka of godes durga, it is only 700, reciting is diffrent matter, one can read it in thri days or 7 or 9, or 100. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Niket, > Namasthe, > > I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  > > I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. > > I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  > > The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. > > It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. > > Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan). Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    > > Does the present Shankaracharya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  > (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) > > There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     > > I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. > > My satsangh pranams. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket > > Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > >  > sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. > > one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. > > few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. > > so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. > > with kind regards > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket, > > > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " > >  > > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > > Respected Suresh Babu > > > >  > > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > > > with warm regards > > Niket Saraswat > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > > > rgds > > > Niket > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you canÃÆ'‚ neither get in net nor anywhere.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > With best wishes, > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > > regards > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear nikhetji I have the lalita trishati at home. I can give details of publisher etc. Not sure if that is same as durga trishati. I also have the cd by bombay sisters. The book is bilingual, devanagari lipi and tamil lipi. Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel " astroiniket " <nakshtraniket Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:41:23 Re: Respected Suresh Babu respected suresh ji, here the dispute was only that durga saptshati means 700 slokas of godes durga, not the reading, any one can read in any no of days, depend on one to ones' comfort. second there is no word trishati as per sankritit is tri shat it means 300 - no where is mentiond durga tishat or durga trishati it simply means 300 shlokas of durga. no book on this name. one may read it one day 3 day or 7 day or in 9 day it always durga saptshati. now the way of reading or reciting is depend what " parampra " we follow, but is was modified by ppl. as per old sage system if one do reciting of Durga saptshati the complete method which mentioned in vedas, it need minimum 7 hrs. so very few ppl are able to do. now we are living in pizza culture, so always try to find shortcuts, becoz we dont have time. and we dont want to invest our time in all these, but we need complete result. i just want to say humbaly there is no tri shati - there is no 300 shloka of godes durga, it is only 700, reciting is diffrent matter, one can read it in thri days or 7 or 9, or 100. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Niket, > Namasthe, > > I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  > > I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. > > I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  > > The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. > > It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. > > Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan). Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    > > Does the present Shankaracharya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  > (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) > > There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     > > I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. > > My satsangh pranams. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > >________________________________ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket > > Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > >  > sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. > > one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. > > few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. > > so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. > > with kind regards > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket, > > > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " > >  > > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > > Respected Suresh Babu > > > >  > > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > > > with warm regards > > Niket Saraswat > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > > > rgds > > > Niket > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you canÃÆ'‚ neither get in net nor anywhere.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > With best wishes, > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > > regards > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 dera brother santosh ji, lalita trishati is diffrent. here we were talking about Durga Tri shati and durga saptshati. lalita trishati was originated from Bhunneshwari shainta. with warm regards Niket , santhosh wrote: > > Dear nikhetji > > I have the lalita trishati at home. I can give details of publisher etc. Not sure if that is same as durga trishati. I also have the cd by bombay sisters. The book is bilingual, devanagari lipi and tamil lipi. > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " astroiniket " <nakshtraniket > Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:41:23 > > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > > respected suresh ji, > here the dispute was only that durga saptshati means 700 slokas of godes durga, not the reading, any one can read in any no of days, depend on one to ones' comfort. > > second there is no word trishati as per sankritit is tri shat it means 300 - no where is mentiond durga tishat or durga trishati it simply means 300 shlokas of durga. no book on this name. > > one may read it one day 3 day or 7 day or in 9 day it always durga saptshati. > > now the way of reading or reciting is depend what " parampra " we follow, but is was modified by ppl. > > as per old sage system if one do reciting of Durga saptshati the complete method which mentioned in vedas, it need minimum 7 hrs. so very few ppl are able to do. > > now we are living in pizza culture, so always try to find shortcuts, becoz we dont have time. and we dont want to invest our time in all these, but we need complete result. > > i just want to say humbaly there is no tri shati - there is no 300 shloka of godes durga, it is only 700, reciting is diffrent matter, one can read it in thri days or 7 or 9, or 100. > > with kind regards > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket, > > Namasthe, > > > > I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  > > > > I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. > > > > I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  > > > > The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. > > > > It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. > > > > Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan). Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    > > > > Does the present Shankaracharya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  > > (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) > > > > There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     > > > > I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. > > > > My satsangh pranams. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM > > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > > > >  > > sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. > > > > one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. > > > > few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. > > > > so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. > > > > with kind regards > > Niket > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Niket, > > > > > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > > > > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > > > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " > > >  > > > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > > > > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > > > Respected Suresh Babu > > > > > >  > > > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > > > > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > > > > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > > > > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > > > > > with warm regards > > > Niket Saraswat > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > >  > > > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > > > > > rgds > > > > Niket > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you canÃÆ'‚ neither get in net nor anywhere.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > > > regards > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Niket, Namasthe, There is no dispute at all. It is only a little misunderstanding and being too technical for something that is trivilant like a coloquial usage. I am not that dumb not to have understood the meaning those words, which you should have known from 100's of my earlier messages. It would have been more diplomatic if you have asked why I wrote like that. Now comming to your assertion   //one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka// shree Kandiyur Mahadeva shstri has quoted thus aShTasaptyuttaraaNaaM shlokaanaaM shatapa~nchakaM proktaM saptashatiistotraM talsaptashatasaMkhyayaa vibhajya juhuuyaanmantramiti kaatyaayaniimataM According to him, They are 578 Verses & 700 mantras (not verses). He has also provided a detailed list of verses with type of Mantras in each chapters according to Katyaayani Tantra. Accordingly they are Verses = 578 Uvaacha Mantra=57 Ardha sloka Mantras=42 Khanda Mantras=66 Sloka Mantras=535 Total Mantras=700 I am not that competent to dispute any of the above or even your assertion. In fact we should be surprised if such difference of opinion does not exist regarding these Tantras. We are not even sure what is available today is complete. We (scholars) try to decipher these with whatever little knowledge we have, what sages had engineered. I wonder why in Uvaacha Mantras, they may not have done such a thing?. pranams A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ astroiniket <nakshtraniket Thu, December 17, 2009 9:11:23 AM Re: Respected Suresh Babu  respected suresh ji, here the dispute was only that durga saptshati means 700 slokas of godes durga, not the reading, any one can read in any no of days, depend on one to ones' comfort. second there is no word trishati as per sankritit is tri shat it means 300 - no where is mentiond durga tishat or durga trishati it simply means 300 shlokas of durga. no book on this name. one may read it one day 3 day or 7 day or in 9 day it always durga saptshati. now the way of reading or reciting is depend what " parampra " we follow, but is was modified by ppl. as per old sage system if one do reciting of Durga saptshati the complete method which mentioned in vedas, it need minimum 7 hrs. so very few ppl are able to do. now we are living in pizza culture, so always try to find shortcuts, becoz we dont have time. and we dont want to invest our time in all these, but we need complete result. i just want to say humbaly there is no tri shati - there is no 300 shloka of godes durga, it is only 700, reciting is diffrent matter, one can read it in thri days or 7 or 9, or 100. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Niket, > Namasthe, > > I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  > > I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. > > I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  > > The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. > > It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. > > Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan) . Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    > > Does the present Shankarachar ya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  > (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) > > There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     > > I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. > > My satsangh pranams. A.G. Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > >  > sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. > > one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. > > few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. > > so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. > > with kind regards > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket, > > > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " > >  > > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > > Respected Suresh Babu > > > >  > > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > > > with warm regards > > Niket Saraswat > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > > > rgds > > > Niket > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you canÃÆ'‚ neither get in net nor anywhere.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > With best wishes, > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > > regards > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Sir,  You are writing correctly.  Regards Manoj --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Respected Suresh Babu Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:23 PM  Dear Niket, Namasthe, There is no dispute at all. It is only a little misunderstanding and being too technical for something that is trivilant like a coloquial usage. I am not that dumb not to have understood the meaning those words, which you should have known from 100's of my earlier messages. It would have been more diplomatic if you have asked why I wrote like that. Now comming to your assertion   //one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka// shree Kandiyur Mahadeva shstri has quoted thus aShTasaptyuttaraaNa aM shlokaanaaM shatapa~nchakaM proktaM saptashatiistotraM talsaptashatasaMkhy ayaa vibhajya juhuuyaanmantramiti kaatyaayaniimataM According to him, They are 578 Verses & 700 mantras (not verses). He has also provided a detailed list of verses with type of Mantras in each chapters according to Katyaayani Tantra. Accordingly they are Verses = 578 Uvaacha Mantra=57 Ardha sloka Mantras=42 Khanda Mantras=66 Sloka Mantras=535 Total Mantras=700 I am not that competent to dispute any of the above or even your assertion. In fact we should be surprised if such difference of opinion does not exist regarding these Tantras. We are not even sure what is available today is complete. We (scholars) try to decipher these with whatever little knowledge we have, what sages had engineered. I wonder why in Uvaacha Mantras, they may not have done such a thing?. pranams A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ googlemail. com> Thu, December 17, 2009 9:11:23 AM Re: Respected Suresh Babu  respected suresh ji, here the dispute was only that durga saptshati means 700 slokas of godes durga, not the reading, any one can read in any no of days, depend on one to ones' comfort. second there is no word trishati as per sankritit is tri shat it means 300 - no where is mentiond durga tishat or durga trishati it simply means 300 shlokas of durga. no book on this name. one may read it one day 3 day or 7 day or in 9 day it always durga saptshati. now the way of reading or reciting is depend what " parampra " we follow, but is was modified by ppl. as per old sage system if one do reciting of Durga saptshati the complete method which mentioned in vedas, it need minimum 7 hrs. so very few ppl are able to do. now we are living in pizza culture, so always try to find shortcuts, becoz we dont have time. and we dont want to invest our time in all these, but we need complete result. i just want to say humbaly there is no tri shati - there is no 300 shloka of godes durga, it is only 700, reciting is diffrent matter, one can read it in thri days or 7 or 9, or 100. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Niket, > Namasthe, > > I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  > > I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. > > I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  > > The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. > > It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. > > Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan) . Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    > > Does the present Shankarachar ya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  > (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) > > There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     > > I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. > > My satsangh pranams. A.G. Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > >  > sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. > > one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. > > few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. > > so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. > > with kind regards > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket, > > > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " > >  > > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > > Respected Suresh Babu > > > >  > > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > > > with warm regards > > Niket Saraswat > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > > > rgds > > > Niket > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you canÃÆ'‚ neither get in net nor anywhere.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > With best wishes, > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > > regards > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dear Shri Sureh Ji and others. It is true that we get guided by what ever is available from various sources we: try to decipher these with whatever little knowledge we have " the understading /interpretations too have bearings of the society/area/locality as the practices differ for evry 100 miles in our country., Further Uvach is normally a view/opinion/statement a prosaic one should not have become part but " they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka// These implications v can analyse but not be a finitive one to explain intentions as held in earlier times. It is necessary in collective form indications made expressed are enough to motivavte and to further explain but not as a direct reference to inflict/hurt feelings.This is all the more necessary when v take issues of other for their benifit and examine. Members too when they feel that issues concerning them if explained plainly than to provide room for more differences it helps them and group as a whole. ... Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 12/17/09, MANOJ SAXENA <max61262 wrote: MANOJ SAXENA <max61262 Re: Respected Suresh Babu Thursday, December 17, 2009, 12:43 AM  Dear Sir,  You are writing correctly.  Regards Manoj --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > Re: Respected Suresh Babu Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:23 PM  Dear Niket, Namasthe, There is no dispute at all. It is only a little misunderstanding and being too technical for something that is trivilant like a coloquial usage. I am not that dumb not to have understood the meaning those words, which you should have known from 100's of my earlier messages. It would have been more diplomatic if you have asked why I wrote like that. Now comming to your assertion   //one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka// shree Kandiyur Mahadeva shstri has quoted thus aShTasaptyuttaraaNa aM shlokaanaaM shatapa~nchakaM proktaM saptashatiistotraM talsaptashatasaMkhy ayaa vibhajya juhuuyaanmantramiti kaatyaayaniimataM According to him, They are 578 Verses & 700 mantras (not verses). He has also provided a detailed list of verses with type of Mantras in each chapters according to Katyaayani Tantra. Accordingly they are Verses = 578 Uvaacha Mantra=57 Ardha sloka Mantras=42 Khanda Mantras=66 Sloka Mantras=535 Total Mantras=700 I am not that competent to dispute any of the above or even your assertion. In fact we should be surprised if such difference of opinion does not exist regarding these Tantras. We are not even sure what is available today is complete. We (scholars) try to decipher these with whatever little knowledge we have, what sages had engineered. I wonder why in Uvaacha Mantras, they may not have done such a thing?. pranams A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ googlemail. com> Thu, December 17, 2009 9:11:23 AM Re: Respected Suresh Babu  respected suresh ji, here the dispute was only that durga saptshati means 700 slokas of godes durga, not the reading, any one can read in any no of days, depend on one to ones' comfort. second there is no word trishati as per sankritit is tri shat it means 300 - no where is mentiond durga tishat or durga trishati it simply means 300 shlokas of durga. no book on this name. one may read it one day 3 day or 7 day or in 9 day it always durga saptshati. now the way of reading or reciting is depend what " parampra " we follow, but is was modified by ppl. as per old sage system if one do reciting of Durga saptshati the complete method which mentioned in vedas, it need minimum 7 hrs. so very few ppl are able to do. now we are living in pizza culture, so always try to find shortcuts, becoz we dont have time. and we dont want to invest our time in all these, but we need complete result. i just want to say humbaly there is no tri shati - there is no 300 shloka of godes durga, it is only 700, reciting is diffrent matter, one can read it in thri days or 7 or 9, or 100. with kind regards Niket , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Niket, > Namasthe, > > I don't know what to write when your message contains the answer.  > > I already stated I am not an acharya to have made up that verse. It is a system that has been followed for how long no body knows and by highly respected population in scholarly circles(oh! they won't have phd'ssss) - not definitely modern as you think it is and not surely " crap " as you mentioned. > > I hope you realise the implication of using such words being an " acharya " , when you have also stated may of these matters are still in " Sruti " mode (as if I don't know).  > > The verse was given in small book in kerala. If fact, Shree Kandiyur Mahadeva Shstrigal who seems to have done considerable research on the subject, has written an excellent commentry has stated that this method of reading could not not found in any of the classics he had seen, but did not say it is wrong nor say that it is impossible to exist- Simply meaning he has not seen it. He also gave similar method and also stated that the method must have been deviced for those who cannot recite complete devi mahatyam in one sitting / day. > > It makes sense as it is not practical today. When I was young, I used to sit 3 to 4 hrs at one stretch, but finds it difficult even for one hr. > > Then there is a huge difference between all those theoritical knowledge, conducting rituals & real practice. You must read the life story of " Naranathu Brandan " , actualy Narayanam Naboothiri, a brahmin, who was depicted as a mad man(Brandan) . Unfortunately, I don't think it is available in languages other than Malayalam.    > > Does the present Shankarachar ya have a PhD? did his Guru had it? did his guru's guru had it? - It is parampara and we respect it.  > (I don't belong to sankara mutt nor I am advaitee, but has atmost respect to all the acharyas) > > There are many acharya peetas in India that do not follow shankaracharya. Its was not the first and not going to be final also. But we must respect all (atleast I believe so)     > > I am having some those classicals you mentioned. Frankly did not go through fully. Who gets time for these? One can spend a life time studying these scriptures or spend a little time to put into practice what we understood, which is what all those common people, who post in these forums need. > > My satsangh pranams. A.G. Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > Wed, December 16, 2009 10:43:53 PM > Re: Respected Suresh Babu > >  > sir i am not able to read this shloka, and as yoou told the reciting method - it is scrap, no where mentioned in any authenticate books, yes few publisher those publish saptshati from no where they find and print, even the Most popular Book Katyayani tantra which is writen by shri narsimha acharya (one of the shishya of adi guru shankra ) not mentioned this type of method, yes only in modern saptshati books it may be mentioned. > > one more thing in all these saptshati books there are no 700 shlokas in these books only 458 shlokas are there and they count devi uvach or rishi uvach, is also as shloka. > > few most importent shlokas are still confidential. just i am sharing with you, there is 2 type of knowledge, the part which our sages understand it is common and safe they put in writing called LIPI, and which one is most confidential which they dont want to give every one they kept confidential and it always carry on by Very few learned Gurus, it called Shruti. the the 242 shlokas are the same not published in any book. > > so no question of complete sapt shati, in all Peethas The katyayni Tantra is still the supreem book on godess Durgas, secreats as it is caled lipi, but most of things still kept confidential. > > with kind regards > Niket > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Niket, > > > > I don't refute what you have written about Saptha Sathi as 700 verses etc. It is true. However what I refered to is a method of reciting it refering to the no of days within which the reciting is done. Here " saptha " refers to 7 days and " tri " refers to 3days " shathi "  automatical y refers to famous " Sapthasathi " 700 verses. > > > > " ekaavR^ittaavashak tasya kaMgaaLiiti tribhirdinaiH > > tadashaktaH paTedevaM paaTo.ayaM viprakaaraH " > >  > > I am sure being a PHD in vedanta, you are aware of the above. > > > > I am not a Phd but as a humble brahmin , I am aware of a little bit of these things - in a practical way. And though not a sanskrit scholar like yourself, I don't go for english versions not only in this area but in astrology as well - pure sanskrit classics is what I follow.  > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 9:48:39 PM > > Respected Suresh Babu > > > >  > > for you i just say kindly read " Sapt shati pushpam, Rudryamal Tantra, and Mantra Maharnav (Devi Khand) " - the most authenticate books on Shri Durga path, you will get the answer same as i say, but i am sorry you cant get these in English. Published by Prachya Vidya Bhawavn Kashi. > > > > what i wrote is 100% right, as ppl defines the system based on their comforts, if one read sapt shati in one year or in one day, almighty will not come to sugest how and when where to read. > > > > on shri durga very few sages have written, what i mentioned the books in those books you can find what shri Vasishth, Vishwamitra, Parashar, And self Lord Shivas' saying. > > > > kindly read then discuss. just for your info i am scholar of shri Shrigeri Peeth hope you must be heared about it, i did PHD in vedanta. after completed acharya from shri shrengeri gurukul, lord shankaracharya is himself Kulpati and use to teach few importent subjects. > > > > with warm regards > > Niket Saraswat > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear ASTRO, > > > > > > I dont know who you are or what your are or your own knowledge which is evident from what you have written or even your authority. Perhaps you are not aware that Sapta sathi is also read in three days. > > > > > > When it is read in 7th days (Saptha ) > > > 1day = navanga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day= 2 & 3rd chapter > > > 3rd day = 4th chaper > > > 4th day = 5th, 6th, 7th & 8th chapters > > > 5th day= 9 & 10 chapters > > > 6th day = 11th chapter > > > 7th day= 12 & 13 chapters > > > > > > when read in 3 days (Tri) > > > 1st day = navamga + 1st chapter > > > 2nd day = 2, 3,4 chapters > > > 3rd day =5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 chapters > > > > > > There are many other ways also to read it. But is irrelevant here. Hope you understand and better stop & think what others might have written before shooting your mouth. Yes half knowledge is dangerous. So also half understanding and " know it all " sense. India is a divergent country and different part of this small world practices the same thing in different ways and tantra is surely not ONE. > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > astroiniket <nakshtraniket@ ...> > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 7:31:42 PM > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > >  > > > shre suresh babu ji, > > > > > > durga saptshati means Durgas' seven hundrad shloka ( sapt meas seven shati means hundrad) not as u told " It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. " it has taken from Devya Shirsham and few part from Devi Matamya puran and Brham purana, but originate from devya shirsham from rigveda, and it always read in one sitting , and in navratri it read 9 times in 9 days means one time perday. > > > > > > and what is tri shati ? when u dont know why you misguiding ppl. you shuld not. half baked knowledge is harmful. > > > > > > rgds > > > Niket > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > It is Durga Sapthasathi, which is also Devi Mahatmya. It is read traditionaly in 7 days. So it is called Saptha sathi. It can also be read in 3 days as tri-shati. > > > > > > > > Chandi path, saltha shati all refer to the same Devi Mahatmya. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Pk Tripathy <pktripathy89@ ...> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 6:19:03 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Kiran, > > > > > > > > What does it mean surga sata sloki, I hope you canÃÆ'‚ neither get in net nor anywhere.ÃÆ'‚ > > > > With best wishes, > > > > P K Tripathy. > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ gmail..com> > > > > > > > > Wed, December 16, 2009 2:19:51 PM > > > > Re: Humble request > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > I was searching for Surga Sata sloki on the net cudnt find it. Chandipath will be Chandipath Durga Devi? > > > > I need guidance for this please. Thank you. > > > > regards > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kiran Ji, > > > > > Mid life crisis.Depression due to Rahu.Distrubance due to lack of follow up.. > > > > > It is vargottama prashna ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ lagna and moon in debilitation in 8th in prashna lagna.Exalted mercury with saturn your business will have slow recovery and will back on rails by the end of jult 2010.Till that do recite Surga Sata sloki or chandipath.Mahalaks hmi in Kolhapur mein darshan karake mahalakshmi Ashtottaram on tues days may be recited. > > > > > Family happines also far from satisfactory. dasa lord as per birth chart is ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ retrograde and .7th lord mars in 12th and should be attentive of spouse relations.As per janma patrika , > > > > > You will be able to have grip on things very soon.For some time avoid eating outside and all kinds of non veg while you worship Mahalakshmi for better health,peace and progress. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KiranA <laalk.kiran@ ...> > > > > > Humble request > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Past few months i ve gone through hell at home front and financially too. Business has not been good can someone predict for me, am really get very tired and depressed. > > > > > My dates 11th august 1958, 5.20 am , bombay, india. > > > > > I am really looking forward to some better times to solve my financial problems, i hope i get good news. How would my relations with my husband be? > > > > > Thanx in anticipation > > > > > kiran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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