dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

[Guest guest]

Dear Basant ji,

Namasthe,

 

Nice to know you.

 

I assume you have raised 2 questions here.

1) Whether she will have a reasonably happy married life?

2) Why didn't she get married till now - reasonably assuming from todays

customes & rules, she could have been married from 2000 onwards

 

To answer the first question, as you already have mentioned some of the

conditions, pls consider the overall temperament of the native

Nakshatra is Mriga : " chapalo vishaaladeho baalye shokaanvitaH "

Tithy is Chaturdasi : (No pakshabala)

" parastreekaMkshyagjnaH kopee lokaripu khalaH teevrakaama shaTo "

 

You can get several indications as to the temperement from the above. further

Venus in Karkata

" dvibhaaryo arthee bheeruH prabala mada shokashcha "

 

Venus in the 7th

" bahuyuvativiShaktaH streejito naShTadaarasutanusubhagasaukhyaH kaamage

vyaMga aaDyaH "

 

similarly you can get get clues from other positions.

 

The native need not have all the above and it is rare too, but atleast some of

it will be present in one form or other.

 

Moon in Vrishabha, a chatushpad sign in the nakshtra if Mriga with its lord Mars

also with moon. Jupiter in the Sign of Kanya. I don't think she is also

physicaly atractive. It could be one of the other reasons for rejections.  

 

5th house - Pragjna sthana having moon a chara griha - chanchala chitha and that

too without paksha bala. She can't make up her mind. Mars in the kendra

indicates a very independant character with her own opinion as well. Independant

charecter is good but it should be substantiated with clear & firm thinking.

 

Mars with Moon - too emotional

 

 

Parivarthana of 5th & 7th house., Mars in the 7th (Santhana duritha?) all

contribute

Mangalaya sthanadhipathy in the 6th aspected by Saturn (Satru).

 

Now for the second question.

 

As per Vimshottari

She was going through Rahu Venus -> Sun-> Moon-> Mars from 28-Jan-1997 till

10-Jul-2003 and

Jupiter -Jupiter till 28-Aug-2005

Jupiter -Saturn till 10-Mar-2008

Jupiter -Merc   till 16-Jun-2010

 

Kalachakra dasa was that of Makara from 11-Sep-1999 till 27-Jun-2002 Makara has

ketu in it.

Kumbha  till 27-Jun-2006 has navamsa of Sun

Meena - Vrisha till 19-Jun-2010 has navamsa of Jupiter + Saturn + Ketu

 

Yogini Dasa

Ulka Saturn from 03-Feb-1999 till 03-2005

Venus  till 03-Feb-2012

 

Naisargika Dasa

 

Venus - Sun from 01-Nov-1999 till 01-Mar-2003

Venus - saturn till 30-Jun-2011

Venus - Moon till 01-Sep-2011

Venus - Mars till 03-Dec-2013

 

In naisargika dasa, Venus is afflicted by Rahu and Sun is in the sign of

retrograde planet (mercury) and aspected by Saturn - lagna lord. I would say, it

was her choise not to get married during this period or she objected to the

aliances that came by.

 

If you look at the movement of Kalachakra dasa, there were periods when she

could have got married but the fact that Jupiter's trasit & saturns transit +

Moons lack of Paksha bala should have prevented it.  

  

Jupiter was transiting through 10th house onwards, practically all houses haivng

malefic influence.

 

And saturn was transiting through 12th onwards.  

 

There is another element in this chart that is prominent. Whatever be the

external manifestation of venus & rahu, Moon + Mars in the mantra sthana with

Jupiter + Lagna lord in the 9th, there is strong influence of relegious

sentiments, perhaps little bit exagerated to the extent that is harmfull to the

normal married life. If it is already not there, it shall manifest at some point

of time. The seeds are there.

 

It is quite a story.

 

If she want she can get married within dec 2013, but may require some

pacification.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bill G <pythod

 

Tue, October 13, 2009 11:59:39 AM

Re: Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

 

Dear Sureshji,

 

Thanks for your email. My name is Basant and I use 'Bill G' in my

email as an alias to deal with customers out of India.

 

Yes, I am very much aware of the saying 'karako nashto bhava' and I

have also heard that story of Amrit many times. The chart has various

elements for late marriage, and I found it difficult to arrive at a

conclusion why the lady is still not married and what is responsible

for her not being married till now as she belongs to a caste where

girls are married no later than 25 years of age. This lady has

Capricorn (Makara) rising/ascendant/ lagna. Therefore if you flip the

chart 180 degrees, then her partner's rising sign becomes Karkata

(Cancer). Well, it could be a subject of debate because Makara lagna

people are also selfish and put themselves first before anything. So,

it could be a reason why their married life could be unhappy. What I

meant by 'unhappy marriage' is that her partner will have

dissatisfaction with her, and when her partner is not happy with her,

how can she be happy?! Unhappy marriage could have various meanings

such as life full of conflicts, one dominating the other, constant

quarrels with each other etc. However, when Rahu associates with

Sukra, it expands the qualities of Sukra and when Rahu and Sukra are

sitting in 7H, one can be sure that any possible match looking at her

chart, will not associate with her as her life partner. What makes

things even more complicated is Mars aspect on 8H of her 'saubhagya'.

Therefore, it can be very safe to say that her married life will not

be that great. If you wish to analyze her chart for further

discussion, here are her birth details: 30/June/81 20:25

Surat/Gujarat/ India.

 

Thanks

Basant

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sirs,

To set right all your doubts at rest iam giving a case below of a Girl who is

married now:17-02-1976,(81E00,24N47)12.03.oo(midnight of 16thfeb1976)

iam sure if you just analyse the chart you should be able to know the situation

of marraige.A highly educated girl of an orthodoxical well settled family.Her

chart should clarify also how marriages are made in heaven.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, namrata_syal <namrata_syal wrote:

 

 

namrata_syal <namrata_syal

Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:19 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

suresh ji,its very good to hear that u have the same combination. ...may your

love remain the same forever and ever..even my daughter has the same thing in

her chart....can you please tell me the definition of love marriage in

astrology?1- does it mean going against your parents and getting married or

2-does it mean some sort of love cum arranged marriage.... in both the above

cases love is materialize into marriage..but do we see the above cases through

the same procedure?

 

, " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Namrata syal,

>

> By the way, forgot to mention that I have 5th lord in the 7th and mine was not

a love marriage, a traditional arranged marriage and surely we love each other.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Namrata Syal,

> >

> > I am not sure why you are keen on this love affair. However, Since you asked

about the effects of 5th lord in the 7th, I shall give you the quotes from

various classical texts.

> >

> >

> > Parashar

> > Suteshe saptame maanii sarvadharmasmanvita H

> > Putraadisukhayuktas hcha paropakaraNe rataH

> >

> > If the 5th lord is in the 7th , the native shall be respectable of righteous

deeds and all virtues,

> > Have happiness like from children & be very kind to help others.

> >

> > Manasagari

> > Tanayapatau saptamage

> > svasutaaH subhagaashcadevagur ubhaktaaH

> > priyavaadiniisushee laa

> > narasyananujaayated ayitaa.

> >

> > His son shall be very lucky & will be devoted to god & guru. His wife shall

speak sweetly & have very good character.

> >

> > Jatakadesham

> > paapaH paapekshito vaa yadi balarahitaH

> > paapavarggasthito vaa

> > putrasthaanaadhipo vaa

> > mritibhavanapatirmm aandiraashiishva ro vaa

> > niichasthashchaamar eDyo madhupagatasitaH

> > paapasaMyuktashukra H

> > kuryuste daaranaashaM madanamupagataaH

> > saumyayogeskhaNonaa H..

> >

> > Melefic aspected by malefic

> > Malefic devoid of strength

> > Malefic having malefic vargas

> > 5th lord

> > 8th lord

> > Dispositor of Gulika

> > Debilated Jupiter

> > Venus in vrischika sign

> > Venus along with Malefic

> > If any of the above occurs in the 7th and doesn't have benefic association

or aspect, spouse shall die.

> >

> > None of the above does not even hint about love marriage. The maximum they

go is as far as saying that the person (spouce) shall speak very sweatly and

will be full of good virtues.

> >

> > At the Jatakadesa gives a different effect, that if the 5th lord is placed

in the 7th, the spouce shall die If it is not associated or aspected by

benefics. (this might be during pregnancy).

> >

> > sweat talikng need not end up in love or marriage always and atleast in

India , good virtues implies that they does not go against traditional customes.

Hence, it is rare that such people end up in love marriage. I am not implying

that those having love marriages doesn't not good virtues, only that most are

against customes and even against the wishes of parents. A cat is a cat & spade

a spade not matter what you paint them with.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

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> > , " namrata_syal " <namrata_syal@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > suresh ji,vattem ji and all respected astrologers. .

> > > suresh ji u mean that relation between 4th and 7th house is the indicative

of love marriage?can you please explain us that how is it so?as i think that 4th

house is the house of moon whcih generally related to mother..i even read

somewhere that 2nd house whcih is called house of family relation to 7th house

also indicate love marriage..please clear our doubt..also i would like to know

the defination of love marriage in astrology..does it mean going against your

parents and marryng someone or does it mean love cum arranged marriage...please

assist and help us to learn..

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Krishna ji,

> > > >

> > > > With all due respects, I have been seeying this love marriage being

associated with 5th all over the internet.

> > > >

> > > > I don't expect to correct you or others, because I am aware that some of

these neo ideas where propagated by much " famous scholars " and I am a very small

fry.

> > > >

> > > > However I would like you and the members to think about the following

> > > >

> > > > 5th is santhana sthana, pragjna sthana, mantra sthana

> > > > The Karaka for each of the above is Jupiter alone - the Guru.

> > > >

> > > > 4th is Matru sthana, Mana sthana , griha sthana, Vahana Sthana, vidhya

sthana, suhrit sthana

> > > > The karaka for each are

> > > > Matru  - Moon in general

> > > > Sookshma karaka

> > > > Day Birth : Venus is mother & Moon is Mother's Sister

> > > > Night Birth: Moon is mother & Venus is Mother's Sister

> > > > Mana  : Moon

> > > > Griha  : Venus

> > > > Vahana : Venus

> > > > Vidhya : Mercury

> > > > Suhrit : Venus & Mercury

> > > >

> > > > So you can see the logic of assigning all the three Moon, Venus &

Mercury as Karakas for the 4th.

> > > >

> > > > 7th is Kalatra Sthana & Karaka is Venus alone

> > > >

> > > > Another paryaya for Venus is given as " Sneha " that is love. It has also

another meaning : Ghee which is a lubricant also - Fat.

> > > >

> > > > Now Love is an infactuation of the emotional state of mind.

> > > > Love can be between 

> > > > son & mother

> > > > brothers & sisters

> > > > between friends (atma suhrit)

> > > > a human being  & his pet dog or any other animal

> > > > a human being & his vehicle (yes! I have seen it)

> > > > a person & his god

> > > > husband & wife (even if it is arranged marriage)

> > > >

> > > > In all the above we can see that the bond of love is a state of emotion

and is related to 4th house. You might have seen people who have gone mental

truma due to accindents even, are emotionaly dead.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter is Guru & He is the remover / enemy of ignorence. Where in

the scriptures is he depicted as a god of Love?.

> > > >

> > > > Just because the love between a boy & girl will result in children

qualify 5th house for love marriage? How many love birds thus married / " living

together " are without children or voluntorily decide not have children. So how

can we associate 5th house with love marriage. Doesn't those who had arranged

marriage have children?

> > > >

> > > > Karaka of 5th & karaka of 7th are natural enemies as well. What kind of

love will be there between a danava guru & daithya guru

> > > >

> > > > Is in't prudent to stick to core basics of logic to understand

horoscopes?

> > > >

> > > > The relationship between 4th house & its karakas, 7th house & its karaka

, their lords, Lord of Lagna &  lord of & 7th  would  be  better candidates to

love marriage.

> > > >

> > > > I fact do remember that assciation between 5th house/lord & 7th

house/lord is said to result in various kinds of marital problems some Visible

to others & some not.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

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> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > >

> > > > Mon, October 12, 2009 11:39:37 AM

> > > > Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Nmarata Ji,

> > > > An interesting question.Yes the connectivity of 5th and 7th houses

brings into emotions and love.7th represents spouse and if gets related to 5th

then spouse could be person of your choice.Then you need also to check position

of dispositors of 5th and 7th houses where they are and how ell they are palced

to facilitate into marraige.if malefic planets like saturn,sun and mars

influence 7th,possibility to end up marraige will be difficult or the

relationship after marraige to may land into troubles.

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 10/11/09, namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ >

> > > > dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, October 11, 2009, 3:49 PM

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > is it bad for relationship? or does it result into love marriage?how can

we see that the love affair can turn into marriage?

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Here is another chart,

DOB : 09-Mar-1985

TOB : 02:40 PM

Lon : 76:29 E

Lat : 09:01 N

 

You will see that 5th is having Ketu from lagna

 

But 4th is having Moon and is aspected by Venus + Mercury in the 7th of Moon

 

5th from Moon is having debilated Jupiter.

 

He married outside the caste (debilated jupiter?).

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Tue, October 13, 2009 4:15:56 PM

Re: Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

 

Sirs,

To set right all your doubts at rest iam giving a case below of a Girl who is

married now:17-02-1976, (81E00,24N47) 12.03.oo( midnight of 16thfeb1976)

iam sure if you just analyse the chart you should be able to know the situation

of marraige.A highly educated girl of an orthodoxical well settled family.Her

chart should clarify also how marriages are made in heaven.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ > wrote:

 

namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ >

Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:19 AM

 

 

 

suresh ji,its very good to hear that u have the same combination. ...may your

love remain the same forever and ever..even my daughter has the same thing in

her chart....can you please tell me the definition of love marriage in

astrology?1- does it mean going against your parents and getting married or

2-does it mean some sort of love cum arranged marriage.... in both the above

cases love is materialize into marriage..but do we see the above cases through

the same procedure?

 

, " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear Namrata syal,

>

> By the way, forgot to mention that I have 5th lord in the 7th and mine was not

a love marriage, a traditional arranged marriage and surely we love each other.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Suresh Babu " <sureshbabuag@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Namrata Syal,

> >

> > I am not sure why you are keen on this love affair. However, Since you asked

about the effects of 5th lord in the 7th, I shall give you the quotes from

various classical texts.

> >

> >

> > Parashar

> > Suteshe saptame maanii sarvadharmasmanvita H

> > Putraadisukhayuktas hcha paropakaraNe rataH

> >

> > If the 5th lord is in the 7th , the native shall be respectable of righteous

deeds and all virtues,

> > Have happiness like from children & be very kind to help others.

> >

> > Manasagari

> > Tanayapatau saptamage

> > svasutaaH subhagaashcadevagur ubhaktaaH

> > priyavaadiniisushee laa

> > narasyananujaayated ayitaa.

> >

> > His son shall be very lucky & will be devoted to god & guru. His wife shall

speak sweetly & have very good character.

> >

> > Jatakadesham

> > paapaH paapekshito vaa yadi balarahitaH

> > paapavarggasthito vaa

> > putrasthaanaadhipo vaa

> > mritibhavanapatirmm aandiraashiishva ro vaa

> > niichasthashchaamar eDyo madhupagatasitaH

> > paapasaMyuktashukra H

> > kuryuste daaranaashaM madanamupagataaH

> > saumyayogeskhaNonaa H..

> >

> > Melefic aspected by malefic

> > Malefic devoid of strength

> > Malefic having malefic vargas

> > 5th lord

> > 8th lord

> > Dispositor of Gulika

> > Debilated Jupiter

> > Venus in vrischika sign

> > Venus along with Malefic

> > If any of the above occurs in the 7th and doesn't have benefic association

or aspect, spouse shall die.

> >

> > None of the above does not even hint about love marriage. The maximum they

go is as far as saying that the person (spouce) shall speak very sweatly and

will be full of good virtues.

> >

> > At the Jatakadesa gives a different effect, that if the 5th lord is placed

in the 7th, the spouce shall die If it is not associated or aspected by

benefics. (this might be during pregnancy).

> >

> > sweat talikng need not end up in love or marriage always and atleast in

India , good virtues implies that they does not go against traditional customes.

Hence, it is rare that such people end up in love marriage. I am not implying

that those having love marriages doesn't not good virtues, only that most are

against customes and even against the wishes of parents. A cat is a cat & spade

a spade not matter what you paint them with.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " namrata_syal " <namrata_syal@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > suresh ji,vattem ji and all respected astrologers. .

> > > suresh ji u mean that relation between 4th and 7th house is the indicative

of love marriage?can you please explain us that how is it so?as i think that 4th

house is the house of moon whcih generally related to mother..i even read

somewhere that 2nd house whcih is called house of family relation to 7th house

also indicate love marriage..please clear our doubt..also i would like to know

the defination of love marriage in astrology..does it mean going against your

parents and marryng someone or does it mean love cum arranged marriage...please

assist and help us to learn..

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Krishna ji,

> > > >

> > > > With all due respects, I have been seeying this love marriage being

associated with 5th all over the internet.

> > > >

> > > > I don't expect to correct you or others, because I am aware that some of

these neo ideas where propagated by much " famous scholars " and I am a very small

fry.

> > > >

> > > > However I would like you and the members to think about the following

> > > >

> > > > 5th is santhana sthana, pragjna sthana, mantra sthana

> > > > The Karaka for each of the above is Jupiter alone - the Guru.

> > > >

> > > > 4th is Matru sthana, Mana sthana , griha sthana, Vahana Sthana, vidhya

sthana, suhrit sthana

> > > > The karaka for each are

> > > > Matru  - Moon in general

> > > > Sookshma karaka

> > > > Day Birth : Venus is mother & Moon is Mother's Sister

> > > > Night Birth: Moon is mother & Venus is Mother's Sister

> > > > Mana  : Moon

> > > > Griha  : Venus

> > > > Vahana : Venus

> > > > Vidhya : Mercury

> > > > Suhrit : Venus & Mercury

> > > >

> > > > So you can see the logic of assigning all the three Moon, Venus &

Mercury as Karakas for the 4th.

> > > >

> > > > 7th is Kalatra Sthana & Karaka is Venus alone

> > > >

> > > > Another paryaya for Venus is given as " Sneha " that is love. It has also

another meaning : Ghee which is a lubricant also - Fat.

> > > >

> > > > Now Love is an infactuation of the emotional state of mind.

> > > > Love can be between 

> > > > son & mother

> > > > brothers & sisters

> > > > between friends (atma suhrit)

> > > > a human being  & his pet dog or any other animal

> > > > a human being & his vehicle (yes! I have seen it)

> > > > a person & his god

> > > > husband & wife (even if it is arranged marriage)

> > > >

> > > > In all the above we can see that the bond of love is a state of emotion

and is related to 4th house. You might have seen people who have gone mental

truma due to accindents even, are emotionaly dead.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter is Guru & He is the remover / enemy of ignorence. Where in

the scriptures is he depicted as a god of Love?.

> > > >

> > > > Just because the love between a boy & girl will result in children

qualify 5th house for love marriage? How many love birds thus married / " living

together " are without children or voluntorily decide not have children. So how

can we associate 5th house with love marriage. Doesn't those who had arranged

marriage have children?

> > > >

> > > > Karaka of 5th & karaka of 7th are natural enemies as well. What kind of

love will be there between a danava guru & daithya guru

> > > >

> > > > Is in't prudent to stick to core basics of logic to understand

horoscopes?

> > > >

> > > > The relationship between 4th house & its karakas, 7th house & its karaka

, their lords, Lord of Lagna &  lord of & 7th  would  be  better candidates to

love marriage.

> > > >

> > > > I fact do remember that assciation between 5th house/lord & 7th

house/lord is said to result in various kinds of marital problems some Visible

to others & some not.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >    

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >   

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > >

> > > > Mon, October 12, 2009 11:39:37 AM

> > > > Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Nmarata Ji,

> > > > An interesting question.Yes the connectivity of 5th and 7th houses

brings into emotions and love.7th represents spouse and if gets related to 5th

then spouse could be person of your choice.Then you need also to check position

of dispositors of 5th and 7th houses where they are and how ell they are palced

to facilitate into marraige.if malefic planets like saturn,sun and mars

influence 7th,possibility to end up marraige will be difficult or the

relationship after marraige to may land into troubles.

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 10/11/09, namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ >

> > > > dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, October 11, 2009, 3:49 PM

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > is it bad for relationship? or does it result into love marriage?how can

we see that the love affair can turn into marriage?

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

dear suresh ji,vattem ji and others!thank you for your keen efforts...i asked

this question because i am new to astrology..learning just because of my

daughter..but i am still confused..all are having different point of

view...respected astrologers,can you please differentiate between love and

arrange marriage in astrology..as i think that there r 3 kinds of marriages.

1.arranged

2.love marriage where children dont get the blessings of parents

3.love cum arranged

how do we see the kind of marriage in any chart?

 

, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

>

> /*hraum krishnaya namah*/

> Dear Namrta,

>

> Yes, this is yoga which gives love marriage as an attitude, now check

> Upapada. If its connected to Shukra, seventh lord and Venus influence

> seventh bhava in D9 it will manifest as marriage.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> --------------

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal

> starsuponme /

>

> namrata_syal pisze:

> >

> >

> > is it bad for relationship?or does it result into love marriage?how

> > can we see that the love affair can turn into marriage?

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Namrata

 

Welcome to the forum. You are fortunate to decide from so many replies.

As you say ...Dont get confused, the next stage is corruption. It is in the 3rd

stage you will get convinced...that 5th lord in 7th gives love marriage.

 

I am enjoying it. Please post more queries.

 

Best wishes

Sudhir

Consulting Astrologer

--

 

 

-

namrata_syal

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:27 AM

Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

 

dear suresh ji,vattem ji and others!thank you for your keen efforts...i

asked this question because i am new to astrology..learning just because of my

daughter..but i am still confused..all are having different point of

view...respected astrologers,can you please differentiate between love and

arrange marriage in astrology..as i think that there r 3 kinds of marriages.

1.arranged

2.love marriage where children dont get the blessings of parents

3.love cum arranged

how do we see the kind of marriage in any chart?

 

, RafaÅ, Gendarz <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> /*hraum krishnaya namah*/

> Dear Namrta,

>

> Yes, this is yoga which gives love marriage as an attitude, now check

> Upapada. If its connected to Shukra, seventh lord and Venus influence

> seventh bhava in D9 it will manifest as marriage.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> --------------

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal

> starsuponme /

>

> namrata_syal pisze:

> >

> >

> > is it bad for relationship?or does it result into love marriage?how

> > can we see that the love affair can turn into marriage?

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Namrata Ji,

B4 V agree to find order and taxonomy,marraiges require  willingness or

otherwise .if they decide for marraige out of emotions(LOVE) and culminates with

or without blessings of elders/parents is certainly Marraige.

Such marraiges whether they happen with vedic chants or with temple belss

ringing or judge sitting in a court does it with his hammer seals relation.

probably as responsible person v are 2 much concerned with the life of our

children though grown up.

In all marraige happening by their own choice or love doshas remain an

exception.It is their 9th and 10th houses that has to be strong to have the life

ahead.

2.Even in the case of arranged marraiges  the consent is mutual and honoured

with elders leading the events.In those cases to if unfortunate things happen v

become helpless.

What ultimately v look for is happiness and confidence to lead their lifes.

3.finally as persons trying to read into planets v only inidcate how events may

come up.More than this v can not carry this faith further unless v believe that

evets/happening are certainly have their base in past karmas.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, namrata_syal <namrata_syal wrote:

 

 

namrata_syal <namrata_syal

Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 2:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear suresh ji,vattem ji and others!thank you for your keen efforts...i asked

this question because i am new to astrology..learning just because of my

daughter..but i am still confused..all are having different point of

view...respected astrologers, can you please differentiate between love and

arrange marriage in astrology..as i think that there r 3 kinds of marriages.

1.arranged

2.love marriage where children dont get the blessings of parents

3.love cum arranged

how do we see the kind of marriage in any chart?

 

, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> /*hraum krishnaya namah*/

> Dear Namrta,

>

> Yes, this is yoga which gives love marriage as an attitude, now check

> Upapada. If its connected to Shukra, seventh lord and Venus influence

> seventh bhava in D9 it will manifest as marriage.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal

> starsuponme@ ... /

>

> namrata_syal pisze:

> >

> >

> > is it bad for relationship? or does it result into love marriage?how

> > can we see that the love affair can turn into marriage?

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Krishna ji has put matters in proper perspective.

Whether it is love marriage or arranged marriage, it is the element of 9th house

that ulmatitely determines their welfare and ofcourse Karma (10th house) as

well.

 

I am presenting a chart of girl who had relationship with a boy for about 5

years and  married that person against the wishes of her parents, outside her

caste. But her words to her younger sister was  " Don't commit the mistake I

did " .

 

DOB: 12-Apr-1974

TOB: 07:10 PM

LAT : 09:58 N

LON : 76:17 E

 

4th lord from Lagna - Saturn is together with Mars - 7th lord in the 7th of

Moon (karaka for 4th house). These malafics are also in the 9th of Lagna.

8th from lagna is having Ketu. and with 9th lord debilated in the 6th along with

Sun (pitra karaka).

 

I am sure when she got married, But is back home totaly shattered and with

cancer.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Wed, October 14, 2009 11:47:48 AM

Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

 

Dear Namrata Ji,

B4 V agree to find order and taxonomy,marraiges require  willingness or

otherwise .if they decide for marraige out of emotions(LOVE) and culminates with

or without blessings of elders/parents is certainly Marraige.

Such marraiges whether they happen with vedic chants or with temple belss

ringing or judge sitting in a court does it with his hammer seals relation.

probably as responsible person v are 2 much concerned with the life of our

children though grown up.

In all marraige happening by their own choice or love doshas remain an

exception.It is their 9th and 10th houses that has to be strong to have the life

ahead.

2.Even in the case of arranged marraiges  the consent is mutual and honoured

with elders leading the events.In those cases to if unfortunate things happen v

become helpless.

What ultimately v look for is happiness and confidence to lead their lifes.

3.finally as persons trying to read into planets v only inidcate how events may

come up.More than this v can not carry this faith further unless v believe that

evets/happening are certainly have their base in past karmas.

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ > wrote:

 

namrata_syal <namrata_syal@ >

Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 2:57 PM

 

 

 

dear suresh ji,vattem ji and others!thank you for your keen efforts...i asked

this question because i am new to astrology..learning just because of my

daughter..but i am still confused..all are having different point of

view...respected astrologers, can you please differentiate between love and

arrange marriage in astrology..as i think that there r 3 kinds of marriages.

1.arranged

2.love marriage where children dont get the blessings of parents

3.love cum arranged

how do we see the kind of marriage in any chart?

 

, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...>

wrote:

>

> /*hraum krishnaya namah*/

> Dear Namrta,

>

> Yes, this is yoga which gives love marriage as an attitude, now check

> Upapada. If its connected to Shukra, seventh lord and Venus influence

> seventh bhava in D9 it will manifest as marriage.

>

>

>

> Regards,

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal

> starsuponme@ ... /

>

> namrata_syal pisze:

> >

> >

> > is it bad for relationship? or does it result into love marriage?how

> > can we see that the love affair can turn into marriage?

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sureshji,

 

Nice to know you as well. Thank you for posting such a detailed

analysis of this chart.

 

I will also describe a few other characteristics of her to support

your analysis:

 

1. Physical characteristics: Yes, she may not be as good looking. But,

that could be due to various reasons such as overly focused in career,

not taking care of herself well etc. She's a computer engineer by

profession.

 

2. She is a strong feminist and takes it very seriously. Perhaps due

to this, even if a guy were to say a small thing, it may upset her,

and reject him right there.

 

3. She definitely is independent and lives by herself since last 2-3

years, not with her parents. In my opinion, some of today's young

generation of women have surpassed even the western perspective of

women's equality and that is harming the balance of the society. I am

very supportive of women's equality, but in India, meaning of equality

has taken a different shape here. I know that because I have lived in

the US for 8+ years and recently came back to India and was shocked to

see how equality has a different meaning here. We're trying to catch

up with western views, but unknowingly we're implementing it wrongly

and harming our own selves.

 

4. She is emotional as you described, but Mars + Moon also gives one a

blunt speech.

 

5. Even today she " sees " a lot of boys and Rahu in 7H also gives

marriage in an outside caste and perhaps the boy, may be younger to

her. Let's see what the time unfolds.

 

Now regarding your comment about religious sentiments: Presence of

Ketu in 1H and Guru's aspect on 1H also gives presence religious

sentiments. Even yuti of Guru+Sani also gives oneself marital

detachment or sort of 'Sannyas yoga'. I may be wrong about it. I think

eventually what's holding her from getting married is her beliefs,

perhaps too strong to a point that is detrimental to herself.

 

You have written quite a long analysis, and thanks again for sharing your views.

 

Best regards,

Basant

 

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Basant ji,

> Namasthe,

>

> Nice to know you.

>

> I assume you have raised 2 questions here.

> 1) Whether she will have a reasonably happy married life?

> 2) Why didn't she get married till now - reasonably assuming from todays

customes & rules, she could have been married from 2000 onwards

>

> To answer the first question, as you already have mentioned some of the

conditions, pls consider the overall temperament of the native

> Nakshatra is Mriga : " chapalo vishaaladeho baalye shokaanvitaH "

> Tithy is Chaturdasi : (No pakshabala)

> " parastreekaMkshyagjnaH kopee lokaripu khalaH teevrakaama shaTo "

>

> You can get several indications as to the temperement from the above. further

> Venus in Karkata

> " dvibhaaryo arthee bheeruH prabala mada shokashcha "

>

> Venus in the 7th

> " bahuyuvativiShaktaH streejito naShTadaarasutanusubhagasaukhyaH kaamage

vyaMga aaDyaH "

>

> similarly you can get get clues from other positions.

>

> The native need not have all the above and it is rare too, but atleast some of

it will be present in one form or other.

>

> Moon in Vrishabha, a chatushpad sign in the nakshtra if Mriga with its lord

Mars also with moon. Jupiter in the Sign of Kanya. I don't think she is also

physicaly atractive. It could be one of the other reasons for rejections.

>

> 5th house - Pragjna sthana having moon a chara griha - chanchala chitha and

that too without paksha bala. She can't make up her mind. Mars in the kendra

indicates a very independant character with her own opinion as well. Independant

charecter is good but it should be substantiated with clear & firm thinking.

>

> Mars with Moon - too emotional

>

> Parivarthana of 5th & 7th house., Mars in the 7th (Santhana duritha?) all

contribute

> Mangalaya sthanadhipathy in the 6th aspected by Saturn (Satru).

>

> Now for the second question.

>

> As per Vimshottari

> She was going through Rahu Venus -> Sun-> Moon-> Mars from 28-Jan-1997 till

10-Jul-2003 and

> Jupiter -Jupiter till 28-Aug-2005

> Jupiter -Saturn till 10-Mar-2008

> Jupiter -Merc   till 16-Jun-2010

>

> Kalachakra dasa was that of Makara from 11-Sep-1999 till 27-Jun-2002 Makara

has ketu in it.

> Kumbha  till 27-Jun-2006 has navamsa of Sun

> Meena - Vrisha till 19-Jun-2010 has navamsa of Jupiter + Saturn + Ketu

>

> Yogini Dasa

> Ulka Saturn from 03-Feb-1999 till 03-2005

> Venus  till 03-Feb-2012

>

> Naisargika Dasa

>

> Venus - Sun from 01-Nov-1999 till 01-Mar-2003

> Venus - saturn till 30-Jun-2011

> Venus - Moon till 01-Sep-2011

> Venus - Mars till 03-Dec-2013

>

> In naisargika dasa, Venus is afflicted by Rahu and Sun is in the sign of

retrograde planet (mercury) and aspected by Saturn - lagna lord. I would say, it

was her choise not to get married during this period or she objected to the

aliances that came by.

>

> If you look at the movement of Kalachakra dasa, there were periods when she

could have got married but the fact that Jupiter's trasit & saturns transit +

Moons lack of Paksha bala should have prevented it.

>

> Jupiter was transiting through 10th house onwards, practically all houses

haivng malefic influence.

>

> And saturn was transiting through 12th onwards.

>

> There is another element in this chart that is prominent. Whatever be the

external manifestation of venus & rahu, Moon + Mars in the mantra sthana with

Jupiter + Lagna lord in the 9th, there is strong influence of relegious

sentiments, perhaps little bit exagerated to the extent that is harmfull to the

normal married life. If it is already not there, it shall manifest at some point

of time. The seeds are there.

>

> It is quite a story.

>

> If she want she can get married within dec 2013, but may require some

pacification.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Bill G <pythod

>

> Tue, October 13, 2009 11:59:39 AM

> Re: Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

>

>

> Dear Sureshji,

>

> Thanks for your email. My name is Basant and I use 'Bill G' in my

> email as an alias to deal with customers out of India.

>

> Yes, I am very much aware of the saying 'karako nashto bhava' and I

> have also heard that story of Amrit many times. The chart has various

> elements for late marriage, and I found it difficult to arrive at a

> conclusion why the lady is still not married and what is responsible

> for her not being married till now as she belongs to a caste where

> girls are married no later than 25 years of age. This lady has

> Capricorn (Makara) rising/ascendant/ lagna. Therefore if you flip the

> chart 180 degrees, then her partner's rising sign becomes Karkata

> (Cancer). Well, it could be a subject of debate because Makara lagna

> people are also selfish and put themselves first before anything. So,

> it could be a reason why their married life could be unhappy. What I

> meant by 'unhappy marriage' is that her partner will have

> dissatisfaction with her, and when her partner is not happy with her,

> how can she be happy?! Unhappy marriage could have various meanings

> such as life full of conflicts, one dominating the other, constant

> quarrels with each other etc. However, when Rahu associates with

> Sukra, it expands the qualities of Sukra and when Rahu and Sukra are

> sitting in 7H, one can be sure that any possible match looking at her

> chart, will not associate with her as her life partner. What makes

> things even more complicated is Mars aspect on 8H of her 'saubhagya'.

> Therefore, it can be very safe to say that her married life will not

> be that great. If you wish to analyze her chart for further

> discussion, here are her birth details: 30/June/81 20:25

> Surat/Gujarat/ India.

>

> Thanks

> Basant

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Basant ji,

 

Thank you very much for the imputs. I normally point out the issues bluntly, in

an open forum  we are forced to maintain certain limits particularly regarding

women folk. That is why I just quoted pointers in Sanskrit.

 

Many a times it is one's atittude that hinderes their progress and success in

life than other factors. Most won't accept it but would like to hear about

afflictions created by planets, satru badha, curses and propitiation of

planets. All the while, the solution will be much simpler if they take a hard

look at themselves and how they relate themselves with the rest of the society.

 

As you said faminism in India is a totaly misunderstood concept. Individuality &

independence is absolutely neccessary as they are also equally human and more

but it should be within the framework of dharmic values. Today we see lot of

youngsters trying to imitate western life style and values while they don't want

to inculcate their real strong points, thus loosing on all fronts. They have

ceased to indian while they won't catch up westerners as well.    

 

Rahu in the seventh need not confer marriage from outside the caste always. It

may manifest in many other ways. Moon is her 7th lord and Venus , Rahu (both in

the 7th), all three have the same navamsa lord  Mercury who is also the

dispositor of Saturn, her lagna lord. So as per classics, the person she marries

has to be of same " Varna " which also means caste. The only issue is the 7th

lordship of Mars together with moon and having a different navamsa lord of sun.

in todays conditions it is becoming more and more strenuous to predict such

matters. I hope Jupiters influence on Saturn may prevail.

 

Guru + Dharma raja together provides a strong sense of justice. But if the

stuburness of Saturn is allowed to manifest more than the intelligence of

Jupiter, it will create more problems in practical life than good.   

 

Hope I have not bored you toomuch.

 

I wish she finds a good balance between her thoughts, atittudes And down to

earth practical life, all the while passionate in her convictions.

 

Wish you and your family a happy deepavali.

regards

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Bill G <pythod

 

Fri, October 16, 2009 12:56:12 PM

Re: Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

 

Dear Sureshji,

 

Nice to know you as well. Thank you for posting such a detailed

analysis of this chart.

 

I will also describe a few other characteristics of her to support

your analysis:

 

1. Physical characteristics: Yes, she may not be as good looking. But,

that could be due to various reasons such as overly focused in career,

not taking care of herself well etc. She's a computer engineer by

profession.

 

2. She is a strong feminist and takes it very seriously. Perhaps due

to this, even if a guy were to say a small thing, it may upset her,

and reject him right there.

 

3. She definitely is independent and lives by herself since last 2-3

years, not with her parents. In my opinion, some of today's young

generation of women have surpassed even the western perspective of

women's equality and that is harming the balance of the society. I am

very supportive of women's equality, but in India, meaning of equality

has taken a different shape here. I know that because I have lived in

the US for 8+ years and recently came back to India and was shocked to

see how equality has a different meaning here. We're trying to catch

up with western views, but unknowingly we're implementing it wrongly

and harming our own selves.

 

4. She is emotional as you described, but Mars + Moon also gives one a

blunt speech.

 

5. Even today she " sees " a lot of boys and Rahu in 7H also gives

marriage in an outside caste and perhaps the boy, may be younger to

her. Let's see what the time unfolds.

 

Now regarding your comment about religious sentiments: Presence of

Ketu in 1H and Guru's aspect on 1H also gives presence religious

sentiments. Even yuti of Guru+Sani also gives oneself marital

detachment or sort of 'Sannyas yoga'. I may be wrong about it. I think

eventually what's holding her from getting married is her beliefs,

perhaps too strong to a point that is detrimental to herself.

 

You have written quite a long analysis, and thanks again for sharing your views.

 

Best regards,

Basant

 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Basant ji,

> Namasthe,

>

> Nice to know you.

>

> I assume you have raised 2 questions here.

> 1) Whether she will have a reasonably happy married life?

> 2) Why didn't she get married till now - reasonably assuming from todays

customes & rules, she could have been married from 2000 onwards

>

> To answer the first question, as you already have mentioned some of the

conditions, pls consider the overall temperament of the native

> Nakshatra is Mriga : " chapalo vishaaladeho baalye shokaanvitaH "

> Tithy is Chaturdasi : (No pakshabala)

> " parastreekaMkshyag jnaH kopee lokaripu khalaH teevrakaama shaTo "

>

> You can get several indications as to the temperement from the above. further

> Venus in Karkata

> " dvibhaaryo arthee bheeruH prabala mada shokashcha "

>

> Venus in the 7th

> " bahuyuvativiShakta H streejito naShTadaarasutanusu bhagasaukhyaH kaamage

vyaMga aaDyaH "

>

> similarly you can get get clues from other positions.

>

> The native need not have all the above and it is rare too, but atleast some of

it will be present in one form or other.

>

> Moon in Vrishabha, a chatushpad sign in the nakshtra if Mriga with its lord

Mars also with moon. Jupiter in the Sign of Kanya. I don't think she is also

physicaly atractive. It could be one of the other reasons for rejections.

>

> 5th house - Pragjna sthana having moon a chara griha - chanchala chitha and

that too without paksha bala. She can't make up her mind. Mars in the kendra

indicates a very independant character with her own opinion as well. Independant

charecter is good but it should be substantiated with clear & firm thinking.

>

> Mars with Moon - too emotional

>

> Parivarthana of 5th & 7th house., Mars in the 7th (Santhana duritha?) all

contribute

> Mangalaya sthanadhipathy in the 6th aspected by Saturn (Satru).

>

> Now for the second question.

>

> As per Vimshottari

> She was going through Rahu Venus -> Sun-> Moon-> Mars from 28-Jan-1997 till

10-Jul-2003 and

> Jupiter -Jupiter till 28-Aug-2005

> Jupiter -Saturn till 10-Mar-2008

> Jupiter -Merc   till 16-Jun-2010

>

> Kalachakra dasa was that of Makara from 11-Sep-1999 till 27-Jun-2002 Makara

has ketu in it.

> Kumbha  till 27-Jun-2006 has navamsa of Sun

> Meena - Vrisha till 19-Jun-2010 has navamsa of Jupiter + Saturn + Ketu

>

> Yogini Dasa

> Ulka Saturn from 03-Feb-1999 till 03-2005

> Venus  till 03-Feb-2012

>

> Naisargika Dasa

>

> Venus - Sun from 01-Nov-1999 till 01-Mar-2003

> Venus - saturn till 30-Jun-2011

> Venus - Moon till 01-Sep-2011

> Venus - Mars till 03-Dec-2013

>

> In naisargika dasa, Venus is afflicted by Rahu and Sun is in the sign of

retrograde planet (mercury) and aspected by Saturn - lagna lord. I would say, it

was her choise not to get married during this period or she objected to the

aliances that came by.

>

> If you look at the movement of Kalachakra dasa, there were periods when she

could have got married but the fact that Jupiter' s trasit & saturns transit +

Moons lack of Paksha bala should have prevented it.

>

> Jupiter was transiting through 10th house onwards, practically all houses

haivng malefic influence.

>

> And saturn was transiting through 12th onwards.

>

> There is another element in this chart that is prominent. Whatever be the

external manifestation of venus & rahu, Moon + Mars in the mantra sthana with

Jupiter + Lagna lord in the 9th, there is strong influence of relegious

sentiments, perhaps little bit exagerated to the extent that is harmfull to the

normal married life. If it is already not there, it shall manifest at some point

of time. The seeds are there.

>

> It is quite a story.

>

> If she want she can get married within dec 2013, but may require some

pacification.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Bill G <pythod (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

>

> Tue, October 13, 2009 11:59:39 AM

> Re: Re: dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

>

>

> Dear Sureshji,

>

> Thanks for your email. My name is Basant and I use 'Bill G' in my

> email as an alias to deal with customers out of India.

>

> Yes, I am very much aware of the saying 'karako nashto bhava' and I

> have also heard that story of Amrit many times. The chart has various

> elements for late marriage, and I found it difficult to arrive at a

> conclusion why the lady is still not married and what is responsible

> for her not being married till now as she belongs to a caste where

> girls are married no later than 25 years of age. This lady has

> Capricorn (Makara) rising/ascendant/ lagna. Therefore if you flip the

> chart 180 degrees, then her partner's rising sign becomes Karkata

> (Cancer). Well, it could be a subject of debate because Makara lagna

> people are also selfish and put themselves first before anything. So,

> it could be a reason why their married life could be unhappy. What I

> meant by 'unhappy marriage' is that her partner will have

> dissatisfaction with her, and when her partner is not happy with her,

> how can she be happy?! Unhappy marriage could have various meanings

> such as life full of conflicts, one dominating the other, constant

> quarrels with each other etc. However, when Rahu associates with

> Sukra, it expands the qualities of Sukra and when Rahu and Sukra are

> sitting in 7H, one can be sure that any possible match looking at her

> chart, will not associate with her as her life partner. What makes

> things even more complicated is Mars aspect on 8H of her 'saubhagya'.

> Therefore, it can be very safe to say that her married life will not

> be that great. If you wish to analyze her chart for further

> discussion, here are her birth details: 30/June/81 20:25

> Surat/Gujarat/ India.

>

> Thanks

> Basant

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sureshji,

 

I am very happy that you're pointing out issues very openly. Let's

discuss this in more detail when I return back from a short vacation

next Wednesday after diwali holidays.

 

Wish you and your family a very happy diwali and a prosperous new year.

 

Best regards,

Basant

[Guest guest]

Dear Namrata Sayal,

 

You can study this chart for your query.

 

November 2, 1975

10:30 am

Santo Domingo, Dominican republic

 

Sagittarius lagna

 

Kind regards

Sudhir

 

 

 

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namrata_syal

Monday, October 12, 2009 1:19 AM

dear sir,what does 5th lord in 7th house mean?

 

 

is it bad for relationship?or does it result into love marriage?how can we

see that the love affair can turn into marriage?