Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 London 30.09.2009 23.00pm Respected Shri Sushma ji, Now u are going on theory of Karma - although I do have a faith on Karma theory, that is the reason why in my last two line of email dated 27-09-2009. I have mentioned it depends on the Chart or Horoscope of a person to find out why {?] But please note, although it is difficult for me explain number of things which has happened in my life. Number of stories are there that person should have guru [siddha person] but some times to find a TRUE person it not easy. in present material world. As I said earlier Pujay shri Avdhutji - when I was hardly eight told me explain me that time will come in yr life - when u will acquire what u wish - Start prayers to Lord Ganesh ji - who is remover of obstacles - who has guided me all the time - Prayers to Ganeshji can be done in very simple way or u can do " shabari Vidya " method - where by shri Ganesh ji has to come to u, without failure and help, to reach the goal. Apart from that I do not know how to explain [as i do not remember the name of the book now - as some one who had borrowed long time ago - never came back] Where there was a description of each and every vein of our body and how to bring that into CHETAN POSITION [ Awake the energy within our selves] Any how I have said enough - Although u have mentioned in another email that u get up early in the morning, bath and than pray etc., First of all what is your AIM - Are u seeking MOKHSHA or what - every seeker [sHADHAK] has to a goal. First Step is Faith - 2nd Ask for forgiveness of past karma - and than must do Purushcharan of Mantra Japa - how many ? That u must find out which Devi or Devta any person worships - Any how u are quite knowledgeable for all this - I do not think I have to say any thing further - but still if u have any question please feel free to ask. I will do my best to answer -Hari bol pdk. --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Sushma <bhagvatjee wrote: Sushma <bhagvatjee Re: Mahamrityunjaya mantra - Sri Vattem Krishnan / Sushma ji Monday, 28 September, 2009, 2:22 PM Dear Kotak Ji Jaya Siyaa Raam Thanks for replying me. In fact I have still not understood the science (recitation, implementation, implications etc) of Mantra properly. You must be aware of the story of Ajaamil where he just called Naaraayan - his son, and Dev Doot saved his life from Yam Doot. You must be aware of that Shiv story also where the man climbed up a tree of Bel fearing a lion and stayed there the whole night. He threw the leaves plucking on the Shiv Ling which was not even above the ground and how he got Mukti... In fact there are several stories are like that in Puraan. Why did they deserve for those statuses? On the other side when people pray with lots of Lagan and Bhakti, still they are not rewarded. All these things show that the Karm Phal is the highest above all. I think their Kalyaan was written in that way only, they did not do any effort and they were helped by God in that way; while many people make lots of efforts still don't get any results - it all indicates the Theory of Karm, or Bhaagya or destiny. So it is not specic Mantra, not Mantra pronunciation, not Bhakti, not the number of recitation, not the rituals observed whilereciting it, nothing else too, it is only Bhaagya which takes you from anywhere to anywhere. That is my conclusion. What do you think? Anyway, thanks for repling With regards Sushma , pdk kotak <ganeshji101@ ...> wrote: > > > London 27.09.2009 > 10.41a.m. > > Respected shri Sushmaji, > > I uderstand yr question pretty well - although it is deep subject - > some times it is hard to explain in short - > > 1. It must affecct ? Answer to yr para one is YES > > 2. ? problem is that if a person who is pure in heart - like Yudhishtier > of Maharbharat - no matter what bad intention he may have but because of > his Karma - he can not harm the others as his soul is diverted in different > direction at the same time - > Spirit who is lokking after a person never allows bad thing to happpened - > > Now take the exaple of Rishi Valmiki - he was a hunter of Robberer- > but when he was asked to chant RA MA - story is that he started > chanting ma ra ma ra in fact is becomes Ra Ma Again chanted in reverse. > > > Your last question - > > First what is the pupose of some one chanting i.e. what HE / SHE WANTS. > > than he has to choose whom to pray and get the proper Mantra for that > as there are several different type of SADHANA - AS EVERY ONE IS SADHAK. > AGAIN THERE ARE NUMBER OF MAHA VIDYA - > > THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SIDE OF IT > > Left [WAM MARGI] > Right [ Satvik marg ] > > person in Satvik marg can never do any harm what so ever > > While Wam marg [leftiest] which is known a s TANTRIC [bLACK MAGIC] > > Please forgive me for being bit short but it can years to explain in very very > details - > > Apart from that Main point depends on The Chart of person does his/her > Star favours him to become a sadhak - it is not easy any how > > Hari bol pdk > > > > --- On Sat, 26/9/09, Sushma <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > Sushma <bhagvatjee@ ...> > Re: Mahamrityunjaya mantra - Sri Vattem Krishnan / Sushma ji > > Saturday, 26 September, 2009, 5:42 PM > > Dear PDK Kotak Ji > Jaya Siyaa Raam > > I got a lot of relief after reading your mail. I think, I may be wrong, that any Mantra is a group of sounds arranged in a specific series, which when pronounced in that way, gives the effect which it should give. That is why I think that even if you don't understand the meaning, but if you pronounce the Mantra correctly, it must affect. > > But then, there are several stories in Puraan where the people did something good actions even with bad intentions or unknowingly, or forcefully, still they got good results of that good action (though it was done with bad intention). > > But I read one story when the Mantra affected with wrong pronounciation also. It meanr that even the correct pronunciation is also necessary. > > Both these situations show that there is something else which works to get good effect. The question is " What is that which is necessary for that good result? " - I am looking for the same. > > With due regards > Sushma > > , pdk kotak <ganeshji101@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected young lady Shri Sushma ji, > > > > my personal experience of Mantra is such that it is quite clear > > that VIBRATION HAS A STRENGTH - it does benefit - > > > > Not only that but I had recent wonderful experience, which is > > bit difficult for me to describe - when I was on an operation table > > in Hospital - plus since the morning of operation so many think > > hapended - beyond imegination perhapes people may call me > > Crazy or mad - > > > > which I am not - just 78 years old and Mantra Sadhana is in > > my life since I was eight years old. > > > > There are number of incident in my life - when I have been saved > > > > so U have a GURU OR SIDDH PERSON or not but from the > > spirit world they do come and guide u - > > > > this is my personal experience - hari bol pdk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 The book you mentioned in your mail can you tell the name of that book or the availability of that. Thanks Brijesh --- On Thu, 10/1/09, pdk kotak <ganeshji101 wrote: pdk kotak <ganeshji101 Re: Re: Mahamrityunjaya mantra - Sushma ji Cc: bhagvatjee Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:11 PM London 30.09.2009 23.00pm Respected Shri Sushma ji, Now u are going on theory of Karma - although I do have a faith on Karma theory, that is the reason why in my last two line of email dated 27-09-2009. I have mentioned it depends on the Chart or Horoscope of a person to find out why {?] But please note, although it is difficult for me explain number of things which has happened in my life. Number of stories are there that person should have guru [siddha person] but some times to find a TRUE person it not easy. in present material world. As I said earlier Pujay shri Avdhutji - when I was hardly eight told me explain me that time will come in yr life - when u will acquire what u wish - Start prayers to Lord Ganesh ji - who is remover of obstacles - who has guided me all the time - Prayers to Ganeshji can be done in very simple way or u can do " shabari Vidya " method - where by shri Ganesh ji has to come to u, without failure and help, to reach the goal. Apart from that I do not know how to explain [as i do not remember the name of the book now - as some one who had borrowed long time ago - never came back] Where there was a description of each and every vein of our body and how to bring that into CHETAN POSITION [ Awake the energy within our selves] Any how I have said enough - Although u have mentioned in another email that u get up early in the morning, bath and than pray etc., First of all what is your AIM - Are u seeking MOKHSHA or what - every seeker [sHADHAK] has to a goal. First Step is Faith - 2nd Ask for forgiveness of past karma - and than must do Purushcharan of Mantra Japa - how many ? That u must find out which Devi or Devta any person worships - Any how u are quite knowledgeable for all this - I do not think I have to say any thing further - but still if u have any question please feel free to ask. I will do my best to answer -Hari bol pdk. --- On Mon, 28/9/09, Sushma <bhagvatjee wrote: Sushma <bhagvatjee Re: Mahamrityunjaya mantra - Sri Vattem Krishnan / Sushma ji Monday, 28 September, 2009, 2:22 PM Dear Kotak Ji Jaya Siyaa Raam Thanks for replying me. In fact I have still not understood the science (recitation, implementation, implications etc) of Mantra properly. You must be aware of the story of Ajaamil where he just called Naaraayan - his son, and Dev Doot saved his life from Yam Doot. You must be aware of that Shiv story also where the man climbed up a tree of Bel fearing a lion and stayed there the whole night. He threw the leaves plucking on the Shiv Ling which was not even above the ground and how he got Mukti... In fact there are several stories are like that in Puraan. Why did they deserve for those statuses? On the other side when people pray with lots of Lagan and Bhakti, still they are not rewarded. All these things show that the Karm Phal is the highest above all. I think their Kalyaan was written in that way only, they did not do any effort and they were helped by God in that way; while many people make lots of efforts still don't get any results - it all indicates the Theory of Karm, or Bhaagya or destiny. So it is not specic Mantra, not Mantra pronunciation, not Bhakti, not the number of recitation, not the rituals observed whilereciting it, nothing else too, it is only Bhaagya which takes you from anywhere to anywhere. That is my conclusion. What do you think? Anyway, thanks for repling With regards Sushma , pdk kotak <ganeshji101@ ...> wrote: > > > London 27.09.2009 > 10.41a.m. > > Respected shri Sushmaji, > > I uderstand yr question pretty well - although it is deep subject - > some times it is hard to explain in short - > > 1. It must affecct ? Answer to yr para one is YES > > 2. ? problem is that if a person who is pure in heart - like Yudhishtier > of Maharbharat - no matter what bad intention he may have but because of > his Karma - he can not harm the others as his soul is diverted in different > direction at the same time - > Spirit who is lokking after a person never allows bad thing to happpened - > > Now take the exaple of Rishi Valmiki - he was a hunter of Robberer- > but when he was asked to chant RA MA - story is that he started > chanting ma ra ma ra in fact is becomes Ra Ma Again chanted in reverse. > > > Your last question - > > First what is the pupose of some one chanting i.e. what HE / SHE WANTS. > > than he has to choose whom to pray and get the proper Mantra for that > as there are several different type of SADHANA - AS EVERY ONE IS SADHAK. > AGAIN THERE ARE NUMBER OF MAHA VIDYA - > > THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SIDE OF IT > > Left [WAM MARGI] > Right [ Satvik marg ] > > person in Satvik marg can never do any harm what so ever > > While Wam marg [leftiest] which is known a s TANTRIC [bLACK MAGIC] > > Please forgive me for being bit short but it can years to explain in very very > details - > > Apart from that Main point depends on The Chart of person does his/her > Star favours him to become a sadhak - it is not easy any how > > Hari bol pdk > > > > --- On Sat, 26/9/09, Sushma <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote: > > > Sushma <bhagvatjee@ ...> > Re: Mahamrityunjaya mantra - Sri Vattem Krishnan / Sushma ji > > Saturday, 26 September, 2009, 5:42 PM > > Dear PDK Kotak Ji > Jaya Siyaa Raam > > I got a lot of relief after reading your mail. I think, I may be wrong, that any Mantra is a group of sounds arranged in a specific series, which when pronounced in that way, gives the effect which it should give. That is why I think that even if you don't understand the meaning, but if you pronounce the Mantra correctly, it must affect. > > But then, there are several stories in Puraan where the people did something good actions even with bad intentions or unknowingly, or forcefully, still they got good results of that good action (though it was done with bad intention). > > But I read one story when the Mantra affected with wrong pronounciation also. It meanr that even the correct pronunciation is also necessary. > > Both these situations show that there is something else which works to get good effect. The question is " What is that which is necessary for that good result? " - I am looking for the same. > > With due regards > Sushma > > , pdk kotak <ganeshji101@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected young lady Shri Sushma ji, > > > > my personal experience of Mantra is such that it is quite clear > > that VIBRATION HAS A STRENGTH - it does benefit - > > > > Not only that but I had recent wonderful experience, which is > > bit difficult for me to describe - when I was on an operation table > > in Hospital - plus since the morning of operation so many think > > hapended - beyond imegination perhapes people may call me > > Crazy or mad - > > > > which I am not - just 78 years old and Mantra Sadhana is in > > my life since I was eight years old. > > > > There are number of incident in my life - when I have been saved > > > > so U have a GURU OR SIDDH PERSON or not but from the > > spirit world they do come and guide u - > > > > this is my personal experience - hari bol pdk --- SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. 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