Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dear Sir, plz suggest some remedy? i really love this guy and want to marry him. what will be the idle time to get married?? thanking you megha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dear Megha, When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. But koota is not all. Both have lagna in 2/12 There are obstacles and hurdle . Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. With best wishes. , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal wrote: > > dear sir, > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > time of bith: 01:35pm > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > i am in love with a guy whose > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > time of birth : 5:16pm > place of birth: new delhi > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > thanking you > megha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Megha, Marry him after consulatation with his parents as you should not feel harassed ..secondly a life long Assn has to be there.Remedies shall be effective only you are in a position to doa and he has to do understands. Remember remedies taken by you as wife shall benifit him .whether he would be receprocate is another story. Since you like the guy atleast till you should continie for 2 years to watch and then get into marriage.By that time you will be wise. Living relationship is fins as you like him.Legal complication need to be avoided as boy's family is complicated.Remedies are praying in lakshmi Narayan temple on wednesday and regulalr aarati in your house to Maa santoshi maa. vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, megha <megha_lucky_gal wrote: megha <megha_lucky_gal Re: MARRIAGE PROSPECTS Saturday, June 20, 2009, 1:18 PM Dear Sir, Is there any remedy to it? i really love this guy and what to marry him? what will be the idle year to get married?? kindly suggest some remedy thanking you megha , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > HelloMegha, > Boy does not look to be dependable and so you need to take time to understand.Highly moody though having good look with taurus lagna and moon in Dhanishta in kumbha rasi.I wish you should think twice before getting married with him in hurry.Astrologicall y the married life of the boy is not happy state and atleast he should wait till the end of 2010 for his marraige > vrkrishnan > --- On Sat, 6/20/09, megha <megha_lucky_ gal wrote: > > > megha <megha_lucky_ gal > MARRIAGE PROSPECTS > > Saturday, June 20, 2009, 7:19 AM > > dear sir, > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > time of bith: 01:35pm > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > i am in love with a guy whose > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > time of birth : 5:16pm > place of birth: new delhi > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > thanking you > megha > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dear Megha, 1986 to 1988 was a very intriguing window when many who were to bring LOVE in this dessicated reality were born! Souls born during that window were special in many senses! It is true that some of them had difficult experiences but only when we dare to walk bare-foot on the terrain of rocks and gravel do we realize what our FEET were capable of...! RR , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal wrote: > > dear sir, > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > time of bith: 01:35pm > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > i am in love with a guy whose > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > time of birth : 5:16pm > place of birth: new delhi > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > thanking you > megha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 well and meaningfully conveyed sir.An opportunity to learn further is given to all of us reagrds vrkrishnan --- On Sat, 6/20/09, R.C.Srivastava <swami.rcs wrote: R.C.Srivastava <swami.rcs Re: MARRIAGE PROSPECTS Saturday, June 20, 2009, 2:03 PM Dear Megha, When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. But koota is not all. Both have lagna in 2/12 There are obstacles and hurdle . Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. With best wishes. , " megha " <megha_lucky_ gal wrote: > > dear sir, > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > time of bith: 01:35pm > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > i am in love with a guy whose > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > time of birth : 5:16pm > place of birth: new delhi > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > thanking you > megha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dear R.C.Srivastava //I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory// I am surprised by your definitive & conclusive comment as above. well they are NOT satisfactory. pls read my earlier message. regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs wrote: > > > > Dear Megha, > When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. > If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. > Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. > I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory > North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. > But koota is not all. > Both have lagna in 2/12 > There are obstacles and hurdle . > Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. > With best wishes. > > > , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal@> wrote: > > > > dear sir, > > > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > > time of bith: 01:35pm > > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > > > i am in love with a guy whose > > > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > > time of birth : 5:16pm > > place of birth: new delhi > > > > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > > > thanking you > > megha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dear Sureshbabuag ji, I wrote what my learning is.I could be wrong since I am not expert of Keral parampara for, my learning is based on writings of Late Sri P.S.Iyer on this topic. I will appreciate ,if you can post your working of Dosha samya at your leisure.It will give me an opportunity to learn and correct myself. [bTW I am on list till 23June and will be back after 26 july.] If i do not respond please do not mind.But i am eager to correct myself for sure. with regards. swami_RCS , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear R.C.Srivastava > > > //I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory// > > I am surprised by your definitive & conclusive comment as above. > > well they are NOT satisfactory. pls read my earlier message. > > > regards > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Megha, > > When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. > > If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. > > Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. > > I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory > > North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. > > But koota is not all. > > Both have lagna in 2/12 > > There are obstacles and hurdle . > > Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. > > With best wishes. > > > > > > , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > > > time of bith: 01:35pm > > > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > > > > > i am in love with a guy whose > > > > > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > > > time of birth : 5:16pm > > > place of birth: new delhi > > > > > > > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > > > > > thanking you > > > megha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dear R.C.Srivastava, In kerala we would look at this case as follows The following are factors we generaly look into. Dasa Sandhi Checking – Vimsotari Dasa Boy Ending date Girl Ending Date MARS Year: 1 Month: 4 Days: 22 VENUS Year: 12 Month: 6 Days: 25 MARS 19-Apr-1989 VENUS 29-Mar-1999 RAHU 19-Apr-2007 SUN 29-Mar-2005 JUPITER 19-Apr-2023 MOON 29-Mar-2015 SATURN 19-Apr-2042 MARS 29-Mar-2022 MERCURY 19-Apr-2059 RAHU 29-Mar-2040 KETU 19-Apr-2066 JUPITER 29-Mar-2056 VENUS 19-Apr-2086 SATURN 29-Mar-2075 Dasa Sandhi occurs during :29-Mar-2092 - irrelavent [ if boys & girls dasa changes within one year- it is termed as dasa sandhi period. This period is considered very bad for it usually is disastrous for the couple. The factors to considered are dasa lords malefic nature such as maraka sambandha etc. Mars - Rahu is particularly bad. The exceptions are : benefic nature, strong & well placed lagna/lord and horoscope devoid of major problems with 6/8th bhava involved] Factor Points Comments 1 Rasi 1 Good 2 Adhipathy 0 Nill 3 Vasyam 0 Nill 4 Mahendram 1 Good 5 Ganam 0 Nill 6 Yoni 0.5 Madhya 7 Deena 1 Good 8 Stree Deergha 0.5 Madhya 9 Reju 0 Madhyama Reju-Bad 10 Veda 1 Good Total 5 Good [Note that Reju dosha - particularly Madhyama Reju is considered very bad. As you know there are three methods used for this. However, the simple method is considered. if the nakshtras falls under madhyama reju and no other afflictions are found, we also check if they are Arohi / Avarohi type. if they are of different type, there is no much harm in allowing the marriage.] Papa Samyam – Simple Factor Points Comments Boys Horoscope 2 Papa Jataka Girl Horoscope 0.5 Madhya [ basically 7th of boys horoscope & 7th and 8th of girls horoscope is considered - from lagna , chandra & venus. while saturn, mars & sun are given 1 point each, rahu / ketu is only given 0.5 point. The general rule is that no of malefic point should match each other. Boys horoscope could be upto 1 point more than the girls & not more than that. if there are malefics as above, it is considered a sudha jataka. This comparison generaly indicate the mental makeup of the native. The native with a sudha jataka is usually simple, not aggressive, easily duped by others (he rarely understand cheating), pious, mostly loves his family. the type & no of malefics changes these character metrics. Apart from the phsycological / character compatability we may have have to consider the dangers attributed to malefic planets also. Another most important factor in this test is to look at exceptions seriously - such as Mars in Karkata is not considered malefic in the 7th or 8th of girl. The classical texts also provide another clue - " Tatulya papi " - tattulya means - Agneya should be matched with agneya to be correctly matched. Hence Mars in the 7th of boys horoscope could be matched with Mars / sun in the 7th or 8th of girls horoscope]. Relationship - seventh lord Factor Points Comments Boy: Lagna-Lagna 1 Girls lagna in the Navamsa Rasi Boy: Lagna-Moon No relationship Boy: Moon-Lagna No relationship Boy: Moon-Moon No relationship Boy: Venus-Lagna No relationship Boy: Venus-Moon No relationship Girl: Lagna-Lagna No relationship Girl: Lagna-Moon No relationship Girl: Moon-Lagna No relationship Girl: Moon-Moon No relationship Girl: Venus-Lagna No relationship Girl: Venus-Moon No relationship Relationships:Boy-Girl= 1 : 0 The above is to look if any sort of relationship exist between the persons. The is considered as follows. The lagna/chandra/venus of one horoscope should be where the 7th lord of the other horoscope occupies or his navamsa sign or Ucha sign or Neecha sign. The reltionship is considered from both the charts. More no of indications the better. This Case. Positive aspects: A) Sama Sapthama : Boys Chandra Sign :Kumbha vs girls sign Simha is considered very good. B) no of Koota points : 5 is considered average C) No Dasa sandhi : Very Good Negative: Madhyama Raju 2 malefics (Sun & Saturn) in the 7th of lagna in the boys chart Vs Rahu in the 8th of Girls Chandra Lagna. Boys has 1.5 points more than the Girl. This is not very good. This coupled with Madhyama reju is considered to be very bad. Saturn in the 7th of Taurus lagna in Scorpio is not all good and brings in many problems in the relationship & their life. Another post was made here a few days back which had Madhyama reju & Saturn in the 7th. I had also given reply which you may find out. The relationship between the charts is only one sided and very weak. Hence, the effect attributed by Sama Sapthama of Moon can only be considered temporary infactuation and will not last long - Sun & Saturn will eventually overpower them. Generaly people ask to check the compatability and give the verdict. In such cases we do look at other aspects such as 5th/ 10th etc. However, if the querist is personaly known, these factors are also considered. I personaly is of the opinion that other factors that determine the family type / conditions indicated also should be considered to know if the marriage shall take place. I hope you understand A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs wrote: > > > Dear Sureshbabuag ji, > I wrote what my learning is.I could be wrong since I am not expert of Keral parampara for, my learning is based on writings of Late Sri P.S.Iyer on this topic. > > I will appreciate ,if you can post your working of Dosha samya at your leisure.It will give me an opportunity to learn and correct myself. > > [bTW I am on list till 23June and will be back after 26 july.] > If i do not respond please do not mind.But i am eager to correct myself for sure. > > with regards. > swami_RCS > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > //I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory// > > > > I am surprised by your definitive & conclusive comment as above. > > > > well they are NOT satisfactory. pls read my earlier message. > > > > > > regards > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Megha, > > > When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. > > > If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. > > > Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. > > > I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory > > > North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. > > > But koota is not all. > > > Both have lagna in 2/12 > > > There are obstacles and hurdle . > > > Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > > > > time of bith: 01:35pm > > > > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > > > > > > > i am in love with a guy whose > > > > > > > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > > > > time of birth : 5:16pm > > > > place of birth: new delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > megha > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dear Sureshbabuag ji , Thanks for beautiful and clear write up. I checked your profile as I am new to this group. It was good fortune to see that you are from Kerala and supposed to be well versed in method being discussed.Therefore your mail is very important. As said earlier I am to move out for a month on journey ,For me your part dealing with reckoning of Papa samya and 7th lord relationship interests me and am happy to have working demonstrated in full by you in your mail. Although I do most matching mentally But perhaps as luck would have it , I have discovered I took wrong birth time for one of the partner in match and worked mentally , except papasamya portion. My notes suggests taking incorrect BT.9Am Pm error ) Therefore to be on safer side [professionally i take help of software that gives Papasamya calculation],Now I did check. Results are tabulated below. we are working on case of Megha. Male Planet-asc-moon-venus-7th lord-total Su - 0 -0- -0 -2 -2 Mars - -28 - 0 - -7 - 0 - -35 Sat -31 - 0 - 0 - -7 - -38 Rah 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0- 0 Ketu 0 - -20 0 0 -4 - -24 Malefic points = - 99 Benefic points 7 Total -92 Papa saamyam Female [Megha] Planet-asc-moon-venus-7th lord-total SUN 0-0-0- -9 -9 Mars -24 0 0 0 -24 Sat -28 -14 -7 -14 -63 Rah -8 -36 0 -36 -80 Ketu 0 -3 -4 -3 -10 Malefic points = - 186 Benefic points 31 Total = -155 Results Bride groom malefic points - 92 Bride malefic points 31 Difference = - 63 thus Bad Maha dosham male female difference Mars yes No -11 Sarpa Yes YES -66 Note it is possible that tables may not appear correctly formated. I am attaching doc, that will be received by those who have opted for individual mails. I wii ponder on relationship - seventh lord. Except first line comments are no relationship. So what is meant by relationship here ? There is more to sama saptaka and rajju I will talk on it later. As far as I know , I did use mentally more like uppada matching navamsa matching and few other factors of Ghatak rasi etc. lastly thanks for lively exercise. swami_rcs. , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear R.C.Srivastava, > > In kerala we would look at this case as follows > > The following are factors we generaly look into. > > Dasa Sandhi Checking – > Vimsotari Dasa > Boy Ending date Girl Ending Date > MARS Year: 1 Month: 4 Days: 22 VENUS Year: 12 Month: 6 Days: 25 > MARS 19-Apr-1989 VENUS 29-Mar-1999 > RAHU 19-Apr-2007 SUN 29-Mar-2005 > JUPITER 19-Apr-2023 MOON 29-Mar-2015 > SATURN 19-Apr-2042 MARS 29-Mar-2022 > MERCURY 19-Apr-2059 RAHU 29-Mar-2040 > KETU 19-Apr-2066 JUPITER 29-Mar-2056 > VENUS 19-Apr-2086 SATURN 29-Mar-2075 > > Dasa Sandhi occurs during :29-Mar-2092 - irrelavent > > [ if boys & girls dasa changes within one year- it is termed as dasa sandhi period. This period is considered very bad for it usually is disastrous for the couple. The factors to considered are dasa lords malefic nature such as maraka sambandha etc. Mars - Rahu is particularly bad. The exceptions are : benefic nature, strong & well placed lagna/lord and horoscope devoid of major problems with 6/8th bhava involved] > > > Factor Points Comments > 1 Rasi 1 Good > 2 Adhipathy 0 Nill > 3 Vasyam 0 Nill > 4 Mahendram 1 Good > 5 Ganam 0 Nill > 6 Yoni 0.5 Madhya > 7 Deena 1 Good > 8 Stree Deergha 0.5 Madhya > 9 Reju 0 Madhyama Reju-Bad > 10 Veda 1 Good > > Total 5 Good > [Note that Reju dosha - particularly Madhyama Reju is considered very bad. As you know there are three methods used for this. However, the simple method is considered. if the nakshtras falls under madhyama reju and no other afflictions are found, we also check if they are Arohi / Avarohi type. if they are of different type, there is no much harm in allowing the marriage.] > > > Papa Samyam – > Simple Factor Points Comments > Boys Horoscope 2 Papa Jataka > Girl Horoscope 0.5 Madhya > > [ basically 7th of boys horoscope & 7th and 8th of girls horoscope is considered - from lagna , chandra & venus. while saturn, mars & sun are given 1 point each, rahu / ketu is only given 0.5 point. The general rule is that no of malefic point should match each other. Boys horoscope could be upto 1 point more than the girls & not more than that. if there are malefics as above, it is considered a sudha jataka. This comparison generaly indicate the mental makeup of the native. The native with a sudha jataka is usually simple, not aggressive, easily duped by others (he rarely understand cheating), pious, mostly loves his family. the type & no of malefics changes these character metrics. Apart from the phsycological / character compatability we may have have to consider the dangers attributed to malefic planets also. Another most important factor in this test is to look at exceptions seriously - such as Mars in Karkata is not considered malefic in the 7th or 8th of girl. The classical texts also provide another clue - " Tatulya papi " - tattulya means - Agneya should be matched with agneya to be correctly matched. Hence Mars in the 7th of boys horoscope could be matched with Mars / sun in the 7th or 8th of girls horoscope]. > > Relationship - seventh lord > Factor Points Comments > Boy: Lagna-Lagna 1 Girls lagna in the Navamsa Rasi > Boy: Lagna-Moon No relationship > Boy: Moon-Lagna No relationship > Boy: Moon-Moon No relationship > Boy: Venus-Lagna No relationship > Boy: Venus-Moon No relationship > Girl: Lagna-Lagna No relationship > Girl: Lagna-Moon No relationship > Girl: Moon-Lagna No relationship > Girl: Moon-Moon No relationship > Girl: Venus-Lagna No relationship > Girl: Venus-Moon No relationship > Relationships:Boy-Girl= 1 : 0 > > The above is to look if any sort of relationship exist between the persons. The is considered as follows. > The lagna/chandra/venus of one horoscope should be where the 7th lord of the other horoscope occupies or his navamsa sign or Ucha sign or Neecha sign. The reltionship is considered from both the charts. More no of indications the better. > > > This Case. > Positive aspects: > A) Sama Sapthama : Boys Chandra Sign :Kumbha vs girls sign Simha is considered very good. > B) no of Koota points : 5 is considered average > C) No Dasa sandhi : Very Good > > Negative: > Madhyama Raju > 2 malefics (Sun & Saturn) in the 7th of lagna in the boys chart Vs Rahu in the 8th of Girls Chandra Lagna. Boys has 1.5 points more than the Girl. This is not very good. This coupled with Madhyama reju is considered to be very bad. > > Saturn in the 7th of Taurus lagna in Scorpio is not all good and brings in many problems in the relationship & their life. Another post was made here a few days back which had Madhyama reju & Saturn in the 7th. I had also given reply which you may find out. > > The relationship between the charts is only one sided and very weak. Hence, the effect attributed by Sama Sapthama of Moon can only be considered temporary infactuation and will not last long - Sun & Saturn will eventually overpower them. > > Generaly people ask to check the compatability and give the verdict. In such cases we do look at other aspects such as 5th/ 10th etc. > > However, if the querist is personaly known, these factors are also considered. > > I personaly is of the opinion that other factors that determine the family type / conditions indicated also should be considered to know if the marriage shall take place. > > I hope you understand > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sureshbabuag ji, > > I wrote what my learning is.I could be wrong since I am not expert of Keral parampara for, my learning is based on writings of Late Sri P.S.Iyer on this topic. > > > > I will appreciate ,if you can post your working of Dosha samya at your leisure.It will give me an opportunity to learn and correct myself. > > > > [bTW I am on list till 23June and will be back after 26 july.] > > If i do not respond please do not mind.But i am eager to correct myself for sure. > > > > with regards. > > swami_RCS > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > > > > //I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory// > > > > > > I am surprised by your definitive & conclusive comment as above. > > > > > > well they are NOT satisfactory. pls read my earlier message. > > > > > > > > > regards > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Megha, > > > > When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. > > > > If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. > > > > Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. > > > > I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory > > > > North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. > > > > But koota is not all. > > > > Both have lagna in 2/12 > > > > There are obstacles and hurdle . > > > > Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. > > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > > > > > time of bith: 01:35pm > > > > > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > > > > > > > > > i am in love with a guy whose > > > > > > > > > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > > > > > time of birth : 5:16pm > > > > > place of birth: new delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > megha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dear R.C.Srivastava You are most welcome & nice knowing you too. Have a nice journey & take care. with warm regards A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs wrote: > > > Dear Sureshbabuag ji , > > Thanks for beautiful and clear write up. > I checked your profile as I am new to this group. > It was good fortune to see that you are from Kerala and supposed to be well versed in method being discussed.Therefore your mail is very important. > > As said earlier I am to move out for a month on journey ,For me your part dealing with reckoning of Papa samya and 7th lord relationship interests me and am happy to have working demonstrated in full by you in your mail. > Although I do most matching mentally But perhaps as luck would have it , I have discovered I took wrong birth time for one of the partner in match and worked mentally , except papasamya portion. My notes suggests taking incorrect BT.9Am Pm error ) > Therefore to be on safer side [professionally i take help of software > that gives Papasamya calculation],Now I did check. > Results are tabulated below. we are working on case of Megha. > Male > Planet-asc-moon-venus-7th lord-total > Su - 0 -0- -0 -2 -2 > Mars - -28 - 0 - -7 - 0 - -35 > Sat -31 - 0 - 0 - -7 - -38 > Rah 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0- 0 > Ketu 0 - -20 0 0 -4 - -24 > Malefic points = - 99 > Benefic points 7 > Total -92 > > Papa saamyam Female [Megha] > Planet-asc-moon-venus-7th lord-total > SUN 0-0-0- -9 -9 > Mars -24 0 0 0 -24 > Sat -28 -14 -7 -14 -63 > Rah -8 -36 0 -36 -80 > Ketu 0 -3 -4 -3 -10 > Malefic points = - 186 > Benefic points 31 > Total = -155 > > Results Bride groom malefic points - 92 > Bride malefic points 31 > Difference = - 63 thus Bad > > Maha dosham male female difference > Mars yes No -11 > Sarpa Yes YES -66 > > Note it is possible that tables may not appear correctly formated. > I am attaching doc, that will be received by those who have opted for individual mails. > > > I wii ponder on relationship - seventh lord. > Except first line comments are no relationship. > So what is meant by relationship here ? > > There is more to sama saptaka and rajju I will talk on it later. > As far as I know , I did use mentally more like uppada matching navamsa matching and few other factors of Ghatak rasi etc. > > lastly thanks for lively exercise. > > swami_rcs. > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear R.C.Srivastava, > > > > In kerala we would look at this case as follows > > > > The following are factors we generaly look into. > > > > Dasa Sandhi Checking – > > Vimsotari Dasa > > Boy Ending date Girl Ending Date > > MARS Year: 1 Month: 4 Days: 22 VENUS Year: 12 Month: 6 Days: 25 > > MARS 19-Apr-1989 VENUS 29-Mar-1999 > > RAHU 19-Apr-2007 SUN 29-Mar-2005 > > JUPITER 19-Apr-2023 MOON 29-Mar-2015 > > SATURN 19-Apr-2042 MARS 29-Mar-2022 > > MERCURY 19-Apr-2059 RAHU 29-Mar-2040 > > KETU 19-Apr-2066 JUPITER 29-Mar-2056 > > VENUS 19-Apr-2086 SATURN 29-Mar-2075 > > > > Dasa Sandhi occurs during :29-Mar-2092 - irrelavent > > > > [ if boys & girls dasa changes within one year- it is termed as dasa sandhi period. This period is considered very bad for it usually is disastrous for the couple. The factors to considered are dasa lords malefic nature such as maraka sambandha etc. Mars - Rahu is particularly bad. The exceptions are : benefic nature, strong & well placed lagna/lord and horoscope devoid of major problems with 6/8th bhava involved] > > > > > > Factor Points Comments > > 1 Rasi 1 Good > > 2 Adhipathy 0 Nill > > 3 Vasyam 0 Nill > > 4 Mahendram 1 Good > > 5 Ganam 0 Nill > > 6 Yoni 0.5 Madhya > > 7 Deena 1 Good > > 8 Stree Deergha 0.5 Madhya > > 9 Reju 0 Madhyama Reju-Bad > > 10 Veda 1 Good > > > > Total 5 Good > > [Note that Reju dosha - particularly Madhyama Reju is considered very bad. As you know there are three methods used for this. However, the simple method is considered. if the nakshtras falls under madhyama reju and no other afflictions are found, we also check if they are Arohi / Avarohi type. if they are of different type, there is no much harm in allowing the marriage.] > > > > > > Papa Samyam – > > Simple Factor Points Comments > > Boys Horoscope 2 Papa Jataka > > Girl Horoscope 0.5 Madhya > > > > [ basically 7th of boys horoscope & 7th and 8th of girls horoscope is considered - from lagna , chandra & venus. while saturn, mars & sun are given 1 point each, rahu / ketu is only given 0.5 point. The general rule is that no of malefic point should match each other. Boys horoscope could be upto 1 point more than the girls & not more than that. if there are malefics as above, it is considered a sudha jataka. This comparison generaly indicate the mental makeup of the native. The native with a sudha jataka is usually simple, not aggressive, easily duped by others (he rarely understand cheating), pious, mostly loves his family. the type & no of malefics changes these character metrics. Apart from the phsycological / character compatability we may have have to consider the dangers attributed to malefic planets also. Another most important factor in this test is to look at exceptions seriously - such as Mars in Karkata is not considered malefic in the 7th or 8th of girl. The classical texts also provide another clue - " Tatulya papi " - tattulya means - Agneya should be matched with agneya to be correctly matched. Hence Mars in the 7th of boys horoscope could be matched with Mars / sun in the 7th or 8th of girls horoscope]. > > > > Relationship - seventh lord > > Factor Points Comments > > Boy: Lagna-Lagna 1 Girls lagna in the Navamsa Rasi > > Boy: Lagna-Moon No relationship > > Boy: Moon-Lagna No relationship > > Boy: Moon-Moon No relationship > > Boy: Venus-Lagna No relationship > > Boy: Venus-Moon No relationship > > Girl: Lagna-Lagna No relationship > > Girl: Lagna-Moon No relationship > > Girl: Moon-Lagna No relationship > > Girl: Moon-Moon No relationship > > Girl: Venus-Lagna No relationship > > Girl: Venus-Moon No relationship > > Relationships:Boy-Girl= 1 : 0 > > > > The above is to look if any sort of relationship exist between the persons. The is considered as follows. > > The lagna/chandra/venus of one horoscope should be where the 7th lord of the other horoscope occupies or his navamsa sign or Ucha sign or Neecha sign. The reltionship is considered from both the charts. More no of indications the better. > > > > > > This Case. > > Positive aspects: > > A) Sama Sapthama : Boys Chandra Sign :Kumbha vs girls sign Simha is considered very good. > > B) no of Koota points : 5 is considered average > > C) No Dasa sandhi : Very Good > > > > Negative: > > Madhyama Raju > > 2 malefics (Sun & Saturn) in the 7th of lagna in the boys chart Vs Rahu in the 8th of Girls Chandra Lagna. Boys has 1.5 points more than the Girl. This is not very good. This coupled with Madhyama reju is considered to be very bad. > > > > Saturn in the 7th of Taurus lagna in Scorpio is not all good and brings in many problems in the relationship & their life. Another post was made here a few days back which had Madhyama reju & Saturn in the 7th. I had also given reply which you may find out. > > > > The relationship between the charts is only one sided and very weak. Hence, the effect attributed by Sama Sapthama of Moon can only be considered temporary infactuation and will not last long - Sun & Saturn will eventually overpower them. > > > > Generaly people ask to check the compatability and give the verdict. In such cases we do look at other aspects such as 5th/ 10th etc. > > > > However, if the querist is personaly known, these factors are also considered. > > > > I personaly is of the opinion that other factors that determine the family type / conditions indicated also should be considered to know if the marriage shall take place. > > > > I hope you understand > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sureshbabuag ji, > > > I wrote what my learning is.I could be wrong since I am not expert of Keral parampara for, my learning is based on writings of Late Sri P.S.Iyer on this topic. > > > > > > I will appreciate ,if you can post your working of Dosha samya at your leisure.It will give me an opportunity to learn and correct myself. > > > > > > [bTW I am on list till 23June and will be back after 26 july.] > > > If i do not respond please do not mind.But i am eager to correct myself for sure. > > > > > > with regards. > > > swami_RCS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > > > > > > > //I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory// > > > > > > > > I am surprised by your definitive & conclusive comment as above. > > > > > > > > well they are NOT satisfactory. pls read my earlier message. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Megha, > > > > > When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. > > > > > If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. > > > > > Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. > > > > > I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory > > > > > North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. > > > > > But koota is not all. > > > > > Both have lagna in 2/12 > > > > > There are obstacles and hurdle . > > > > > Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. > > > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " megha " <megha_lucky_gal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > > > > > > time of bith: 01:35pm > > > > > > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > > > > > > > > > > > i am in love with a guy whose > > > > > > > > > > > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > > > > > > time of birth : 5:16pm > > > > > > place of birth: new delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > > > megha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Both of you have made a very educative approach and excellent discussion.thanx alot vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 6/21/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote: sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Re: MARRIAGE PROSPECTS Sunday, June 21, 2009, 11:28 AM Dear R.C.Srivastava, In kerala we would look at this case as follows The following are factors we generaly look into. Dasa Sandhi Checking – Vimsotari Dasa Boy Ending date Girl Ending Date MARS Year: 1 Month: 4 Days: 22 VENUS Year: 12 Month: 6 Days: 25 MARS 19-Apr-1989 VENUS 29-Mar-1999 RAHU 19-Apr-2007 SUN 29-Mar-2005 JUPITER 19-Apr-2023 MOON 29-Mar-2015 SATURN 19-Apr-2042 MARS 29-Mar-2022 MERCURY 19-Apr-2059 RAHU 29-Mar-2040 KETU 19-Apr-2066 JUPITER 29-Mar-2056 VENUS 19-Apr-2086 SATURN 29-Mar-2075 Dasa Sandhi occurs during :29-Mar-2092 - irrelavent [ if boys & girls dasa changes within one year- it is termed as dasa sandhi period. This period is considered very bad for it usually is disastrous for the couple. The factors to considered are dasa lords malefic nature such as maraka sambandha etc. Mars - Rahu is particularly bad. The exceptions are : benefic nature, strong & well placed lagna/lord and horoscope devoid of major problems with 6/8th bhava involved] Factor Points Comments 1 Rasi 1 Good 2 Adhipathy 0 Nill 3 Vasyam 0 Nill 4 Mahendram 1 Good 5 Ganam 0 Nill 6 Yoni 0.5 Madhya 7 Deena 1 Good 8 Stree Deergha 0.5 Madhya 9 Reju 0 Madhyama Reju-Bad 10 Veda 1 Good Total 5 Good [Note that Reju dosha - particularly Madhyama Reju is considered very bad. As you know there are three methods used for this. However, the simple method is considered. if the nakshtras falls under madhyama reju and no other afflictions are found, we also check if they are Arohi / Avarohi type. if they are of different type, there is no much harm in allowing the marriage.] Papa Samyam – Simple Factor Points Comments Boys Horoscope 2 Papa Jataka Girl Horoscope 0.5 Madhya [ basically 7th of boys horoscope & 7th and 8th of girls horoscope is considered - from lagna , chandra & venus. while saturn, mars & sun are given 1 point each, rahu / ketu is only given 0.5 point. The general rule is that no of malefic point should match each other. Boys horoscope could be upto 1 point more than the girls & not more than that. if there are malefics as above, it is considered a sudha jataka. This comparison generaly indicate the mental makeup of the native. The native with a sudha jataka is usually simple, not aggressive, easily duped by others (he rarely understand cheating), pious, mostly loves his family. the type & no of malefics changes these character metrics. Apart from the phsycological / character compatability we may have have to consider the dangers attributed to malefic planets also. Another most important factor in this test is to look at exceptions seriously - such as Mars in Karkata is not considered malefic in the 7th or 8th of girl. The classical texts also provide another clue - " Tatulya papi " - tattulya means - Agneya should be matched with agneya to be correctly matched. Hence Mars in the 7th of boys horoscope could be matched with Mars / sun in the 7th or 8th of girls horoscope]. Relationship - seventh lord Factor Points Comments Boy: Lagna-Lagna 1 Girls lagna in the Navamsa Rasi Boy: Lagna-Moon No relationship Boy: Moon-Lagna No relationship Boy: Moon-Moon No relationship Boy: Venus-Lagna No relationship Boy: Venus-Moon No relationship Girl: Lagna-Lagna No relationship Girl: Lagna-Moon No relationship Girl: Moon-Lagna No relationship Girl: Moon-Moon No relationship Girl: Venus-Lagna No relationship Girl: Venus-Moon No relationship Relationships: Boy-Girl= 1 : 0 The above is to look if any sort of relationship exist between the persons. The is considered as follows. The lagna/chandra/ venus of one horoscope should be where the 7th lord of the other horoscope occupies or his navamsa sign or Ucha sign or Neecha sign. The reltionship is considered from both the charts. More no of indications the better. This Case. Positive aspects: A) Sama Sapthama : Boys Chandra Sign :Kumbha vs girls sign Simha is considered very good. B) no of Koota points : 5 is considered average C) No Dasa sandhi : Very Good Negative: Madhyama Raju 2 malefics (Sun & Saturn) in the 7th of lagna in the boys chart Vs Rahu in the 8th of Girls Chandra Lagna. Boys has 1.5 points more than the Girl. This is not very good. This coupled with Madhyama reju is considered to be very bad. Saturn in the 7th of Taurus lagna in Scorpio is not all good and brings in many problems in the relationship & their life. Another post was made here a few days back which had Madhyama reju & Saturn in the 7th. I had also given reply which you may find out. The relationship between the charts is only one sided and very weak. Hence, the effect attributed by Sama Sapthama of Moon can only be considered temporary infactuation and will not last long - Sun & Saturn will eventually overpower them. Generaly people ask to check the compatability and give the verdict. In such cases we do look at other aspects such as 5th/ 10th etc. However, if the querist is personaly known, these factors are also considered. I personaly is of the opinion that other factors that determine the family type / conditions indicated also should be considered to know if the marriage shall take place. I hope you understand A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@. ..> wrote: > > > Dear Sureshbabuag ji, > I wrote what my learning is.I could be wrong since I am not expert of Keral parampara for, my learning is based on writings of Late Sri P.S.Iyer on this topic. > > I will appreciate ,if you can post your working of Dosha samya at your leisure.It will give me an opportunity to learn and correct myself. > > [bTW I am on list till 23June and will be back after 26 july.] > If i do not respond please do not mind.But i am eager to correct myself for sure. > > with regards. > swami_RCS > > > > > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@ > wrote: > > > > Dear R.C.Srivastava > > > > > > //I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory/ / > > > > I am surprised by your definitive & conclusive comment as above. > > > > well they are NOT satisfactory. pls read my earlier message. > > > > > > regards > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " R.C.Srivastava " <swami.rcs@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Megha, > > > When two are in love matching is uncalled for( prasna Marg) Guy is younger to you. > > > If both of you feel soul level attachment you can follow your feelings. > > > Technically otherwise follow what has been said by experts here. > > > I checked matching parameters dosha samya accoding to keral school reckoning are satisfactory > > > North ndian koota has 23 out of 36 and South koota is 28 out of 48. > > > But koota is not all. > > > Both have lagna in 2/12 > > > There are obstacles and hurdle . > > > Obveserve caution all is not green on other side. > > > With best wishes. > > > > > > > > > , " megha " <megha_lucky_ gal@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear sir, > > > > > > > > my date of birth is 4/09/1986 > > > > time of bith: 01:35pm > > > > place of birth: kottayam (kerala) > > > > > > > > i am in love with a guy whose > > > > > > > > date of birth is 27/11/1987 > > > > time of birth : 5:16pm > > > > place of birth: new delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > can i get married to him? are we complatible? when can we get married?? if there is some problems kindly suggest the remedies. looking forward for a reply from your side > > > > > > > > thanking you > > > > megha > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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