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Dear Vinay ji,

 

thanks for the reply. and can say a few things that can help u

 

ADYAR LIBRARY RESEARCH CENTER, ADYAR CHENNAI HAS MANY RARE MANSCRIPTS THAT CAN

BE STUDIED ONY IN THE PREMISIS In a fully a/c preserved palm leaves, really rare

ones well preserved

u also see many scholars sitng there for ages reading material taking notes, it

also has provision for photo coying at their premisis and is expensive as the

proceeds supports the preservation.

 

Sarasvathi Mahal Library in tanjore which was locked by successive DK clone

govts now has been opened for public has very many unknown, hidden , rare palm

leaves

thew DK parties [dravida Kalagam writtien as Kazagam] never wanted to show

anyonther culture, work superior to the BRITISH SCRIPTED ARYAN/DRAVIDIAN DIVDE

OR fault lines.

 

u can find mamy good works if u want too before it is too late one vedic scholar

in Pune too had advertised a few yrs ago os such rare works and wanted to teach,

impart the knowledge to anyone desiring such knowledge not sure if he is still

ALIVE don't remember much of it now.

 

BACK TO UR main reply

 

ASPECTS IN VARGAS ARE NOT THERE SO TO YOGAS B Y ASPECT BUT IF BY MERE

COMBINATION IT IS THERE IT IS USED PROVIDED THE MAIN d1 CHART HAS ALSO SUCH

status min not a -ve state that is if u have a gajakesari yoga in any of the

Bhagya related vargas and a sakata yoga in D1 NO USE.

 

i HOPE SOME ONE LIKE U OR FROM UR STUDENTS TAKE UP THE WORK OF COLLECTING

VARIOUS VERSIONS OF EVERY CLASSIC AND COMPILE THEM AS IT IS AND THEN RELEASE A

subsequet obe with any critical info for the students , practioneers in future

generations on any anomalies, ambiguities that have crept in by time as most

material was pasewd from memory to nex generation by memory and destroyed the

inbetween memorising material [palm leaves]

 

I am replyinh to RRjis' msg today and see that also from what little I know of

course

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

 

Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:18:40 PM

Re: Parasara-BPHS & Parashari system of predictive astrology

 

 

 

 

 

Prashant Ji,

 

By Sage Parashara's system, I do not mean BPHS or Madhya or Laghu Parashari

texts alone, but all those works by others, esp ancient and mediaeval authors,

who follow his system, because among all rishis only Parashara's phalita system

has survived in detail. Those texts which have important differences do not come

under Parashari system of predictive astrology. Only two chapters of Jaimini

are extant. Sage Bhrihu's original work is lost, hence among rishis Parashara is

our sole guide. Most or perhaps all ancient authors have followed Parashara's

system to greater or lesser extent.

 

We may find Parashara's views in books not written by him, and wrong views

interpolated in BPHS. Even BPHS has many variants and almost all of them have

smaller or bigger segments not actually written by Sage Parashara. Hence,

Parashari is a system and not a particular book, although BPHS or Madhya or

Laghu Parashari texts are most reliable texts which can help us to learn the

original system of Sage Parashara. Unfortunately, no big effort has been made to

collect all manuscripts of BPHS and to prepare a critical edition with reference

to all variants, mainly because the ruling establishment of India has no

interest in Phalita (althogh all of them, including many scientists, consult

astrologers in private).

 

I use BPHS of Chowkhamba because it was prepared after consulting a large number

of manuscripts. But even this versions has doubtful passages. Therefore, we have

to rely on our critical faculties.

 

The basic rules used for assessing D1 apply to other vargas too. It is a moot

point whether yogas apply to D1 alone or to other vargas too. My experience is

that aspect has relevance in D1 only, which is natural because other vargas do

not represent planets in their actual zodiacal position.

 

As for shodashvargas, Parashara has not said much on predictive

aspects. Shodashvarga- Prakash is a mediaeval text which throws more

light on shodashvarga than any other text. It should be studied

critically.Shodashv arga-Prakash has enumerated a large number of combinations

which may be said to be special yogas pertinent to perticular vargas.

 

-VJ

 

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____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:51:25 PM

Parasara-BPHS 7/5

 

Dear vinay ji

 

which version of BPHS r u using and can u list out other BPHS in circulation and

differences in them- I mean older ones only

 

the Venkteswara press one from Varanasi is widely respected. one more from

Mumbai forgot the translator, and press

 

the 1st said one I've seen justice kapoor of ICAS give excellent forecasts based

on varga charts and again on traditional or establied calculations model used

now

 

he has a great library and quote from any work at will

 

in dasamsa for instance based on the 10th lords location in the D10 chart and

occupants in D10 it is given a name by parasara which almost describes the

profesion literally

 

say a metalergist for a engineer, or a accountat, a soldier, a priest a

trader... v clearly this can also be used for birth time rectification incases

where we see some mis-match

 

Prashant

 

* time constraints I am v in few mails todaytill 10th

 

 

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Prashant Ji,

 

Thanks for your suggestions about ADYAR & c. There is a Sanskrit university and

one Sanskrit research institute in my town, alongwith a general university,

which have perhaps one lakh manuscripts. Due to organized theft by staff, I

fear to visit these libraries, for fear of being involved in theft cases,

because I had once filed and won a lawsuit against this Sanskrit university.

 

I have many friends who are already endeavouring to search out manuscripts. I

request yoy to use your contacts to enumerate how many manuscripts of BPHS are

extant. I am alone not capable of doing all this work, and need help of others.

 

I have firm proof of aspect being irrelevant in other divisionals, but it is of

great importance in D1 which is not recognized or used by many astrologers now.

Some softwares do not give aspect table.

 

-Vinay Jha

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Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Friday, May 8, 2009 8:28:39 AM

Re: Parasara-BPHS & Parashari system of predictive astrology

8/5

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vinay ji,

 

thanks for the reply. and can say a few things that can help u

 

ADYAR LIBRARY RESEARCH CENTER, ADYAR CHENNAI HAS MANY RARE MANSCRIPTS THAT CAN

BE STUDIED ONY IN THE PREMISIS In a fully a/c preserved palm leaves, really rare

ones well preserved

u also see many scholars sitng there for ages reading material taking notes, it

also has provision for photo coying at their premisis and is expensive as the

proceeds supports the preservation.

 

Sarasvathi Mahal Library in tanjore which was locked by successive DK clone

govts now has been opened for public has very many unknown, hidden , rare palm

leaves

thew DK parties [dravida Kalagam writtien as Kazagam] never wanted to show

anyonther culture, work superior to the BRITISH SCRIPTED ARYAN/DRAVIDIAN DIVDE

OR fault lines.

 

u can find mamy good works if u want too before it is too late one vedic scholar

in Pune too had advertised a few yrs ago os such rare works and wanted to teach,

impart the knowledge to anyone desiring such knowledge not sure if he is still

ALIVE don't remember much of it now.

 

BACK TO UR main reply

 

ASPECTS IN VARGAS ARE NOT THERE SO TO YOGAS B Y ASPECT BUT IF BY MERE

COMBINATION IT IS THERE IT IS USED PROVIDED THE MAIN d1 CHART HAS ALSO SUCH

status min not a -ve state that is if u have a gajakesari yoga in any of the

Bhagya related vargas and a sakata yoga in D1 NO USE.

 

i HOPE SOME ONE LIKE U OR FROM UR STUDENTS TAKE UP THE WORK OF COLLECTING

VARIOUS VERSIONS OF EVERY CLASSIC AND COMPILE THEM AS IT IS AND THEN RELEASE A

subsequet obe with any critical info for the students , practioneers in future

generations on any anomalies, ambiguities that have crept in by time as most

material was pasewd from memory to nex generation by memory and destroyed the

inbetween memorising material [palm leaves]

 

I am replyinh to RRjis' msg today and see that also from what little I know of

course

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

 

Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:18:40 PM

Re: Parasara-BPHS & Parashari system of predictive astrology

 

Prashant Ji,

 

By Sage Parashara's system, I do not mean BPHS or Madhya or Laghu Parashari

texts alone, but all those works by others, esp ancient and mediaeval authors,

who follow his system, because among all rishis only Parashara's phalita system

has survived in detail. Those texts which have important differences do not come

under Parashari system of predictive astrology. Only two chapters of Jaimini

are extant. Sage Bhrihu's original work is lost, hence among rishis Parashara is

our sole guide. Most or perhaps all ancient authors have followed Parashara's

system to greater or lesser extent.

 

We may find Parashara's views in books not written by him, and wrong views

interpolated in BPHS. Even BPHS has many variants and almost all of them have

smaller or bigger segments not actually written by Sage Parashara. Hence,

Parashari is a system and not a particular book, although BPHS or Madhya or

Laghu Parashari texts are most reliable texts which can help us to learn the

original system of Sage Parashara. Unfortunately, no big effort has been made to

collect all manuscripts of BPHS and to prepare a critical edition with reference

to all variants, mainly because the ruling establishment of India has no

interest in Phalita (althogh all of them, including many scientists, consult

astrologers in private).

 

I use BPHS of Chowkhamba because it was prepared after consulting a large number

of manuscripts. But even this versions has doubtful passages. Therefore, we have

to rely on our critical faculties.

 

The basic rules used for assessing D1 apply to other vargas too. It is a moot

point whether yogas apply to D1 alone or to other vargas too. My experience is

that aspect has relevance in D1 only, which is natural because other vargas do

not represent planets in their actual zodiacal position.

 

As for shodashvargas, Parashara has not said much on predictive

aspects. Shodashvarga- Prakash is a mediaeval text which throws more

light on shodashvarga than any other text. It should be studied

critically.Shodashv arga-Prakash has enumerated a large number of combinations

which may be said to be special yogas pertinent to perticular vargas.

 

-VJ

 

============ ====== ======

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:51:25 PM

Parasara-BPHS 7/5

 

Dear vinay ji

 

which version of BPHS r u using and can u list out other BPHS in circulation and

differences in them- I mean older ones only

 

the Venkteswara press one from Varanasi is widely respected. one more from

Mumbai forgot the translator, and press

 

the 1st said one I've seen justice kapoor of ICAS give excellent forecasts based

on varga charts and again on traditional or establied calculations model used

now

 

he has a great library and quote from any work at will

 

in dasamsa for instance based on the 10th lords location in the D10 chart and

occupants in D10 it is given a name by parasara which almost describes the

profesion literally

 

say a metalergist for a engineer, or a accountat, a soldier, a priest a

trader... v clearly this can also be used for birth time rectification incases

where we see some mis-match

 

Prashant

 

* time constraints I am v in few mails todaytill 10th

 

 

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