Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Dear Vinay ji, thanks for the reply. and can say a few things that can help u ADYAR LIBRARY RESEARCH CENTER, ADYAR CHENNAI HAS MANY RARE MANSCRIPTS THAT CAN BE STUDIED ONY IN THE PREMISIS In a fully a/c preserved palm leaves, really rare ones well preserved u also see many scholars sitng there for ages reading material taking notes, it also has provision for photo coying at their premisis and is expensive as the proceeds supports the preservation. Sarasvathi Mahal Library in tanjore which was locked by successive DK clone govts now has been opened for public has very many unknown, hidden , rare palm leaves thew DK parties [dravida Kalagam writtien as Kazagam] never wanted to show anyonther culture, work superior to the BRITISH SCRIPTED ARYAN/DRAVIDIAN DIVDE OR fault lines. u can find mamy good works if u want too before it is too late one vedic scholar in Pune too had advertised a few yrs ago os such rare works and wanted to teach, impart the knowledge to anyone desiring such knowledge not sure if he is still ALIVE don't remember much of it now. BACK TO UR main reply ASPECTS IN VARGAS ARE NOT THERE SO TO YOGAS B Y ASPECT BUT IF BY MERE COMBINATION IT IS THERE IT IS USED PROVIDED THE MAIN d1 CHART HAS ALSO SUCH status min not a -ve state that is if u have a gajakesari yoga in any of the Bhagya related vargas and a sakata yoga in D1 NO USE. i HOPE SOME ONE LIKE U OR FROM UR STUDENTS TAKE UP THE WORK OF COLLECTING VARIOUS VERSIONS OF EVERY CLASSIC AND COMPILE THEM AS IT IS AND THEN RELEASE A subsequet obe with any critical info for the students , practioneers in future generations on any anomalies, ambiguities that have crept in by time as most material was pasewd from memory to nex generation by memory and destroyed the inbetween memorising material [palm leaves] I am replyinh to RRjis' msg today and see that also from what little I know of course prashant ________________________________ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:18:40 PM Re: Parasara-BPHS & Parashari system of predictive astrology Prashant Ji, By Sage Parashara's system, I do not mean BPHS or Madhya or Laghu Parashari texts alone, but all those works by others, esp ancient and mediaeval authors, who follow his system, because among all rishis only Parashara's phalita system has survived in detail. Those texts which have important differences do not come under Parashari system of predictive astrology. Only two chapters of Jaimini are extant. Sage Bhrihu's original work is lost, hence among rishis Parashara is our sole guide. Most or perhaps all ancient authors have followed Parashara's system to greater or lesser extent. We may find Parashara's views in books not written by him, and wrong views interpolated in BPHS. Even BPHS has many variants and almost all of them have smaller or bigger segments not actually written by Sage Parashara. Hence, Parashari is a system and not a particular book, although BPHS or Madhya or Laghu Parashari texts are most reliable texts which can help us to learn the original system of Sage Parashara. Unfortunately, no big effort has been made to collect all manuscripts of BPHS and to prepare a critical edition with reference to all variants, mainly because the ruling establishment of India has no interest in Phalita (althogh all of them, including many scientists, consult astrologers in private). I use BPHS of Chowkhamba because it was prepared after consulting a large number of manuscripts. But even this versions has doubtful passages. Therefore, we have to rely on our critical faculties. The basic rules used for assessing D1 apply to other vargas too. It is a moot point whether yogas apply to D1 alone or to other vargas too. My experience is that aspect has relevance in D1 only, which is natural because other vargas do not represent planets in their actual zodiacal position. As for shodashvargas, Parashara has not said much on predictive aspects. Shodashvarga- Prakash is a mediaeval text which throws more light on shodashvarga than any other text. It should be studied critically.Shodashv arga-Prakash has enumerated a large number of combinations which may be said to be special yogas pertinent to perticular vargas. -VJ ============ ====== ====== ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:51:25 PM Parasara-BPHS 7/5 Dear vinay ji which version of BPHS r u using and can u list out other BPHS in circulation and differences in them- I mean older ones only the Venkteswara press one from Varanasi is widely respected. one more from Mumbai forgot the translator, and press the 1st said one I've seen justice kapoor of ICAS give excellent forecasts based on varga charts and again on traditional or establied calculations model used now he has a great library and quote from any work at will in dasamsa for instance based on the 10th lords location in the D10 chart and occupants in D10 it is given a name by parasara which almost describes the profesion literally say a metalergist for a engineer, or a accountat, a soldier, a priest a trader... v clearly this can also be used for birth time rectification incases where we see some mis-match Prashant * time constraints I am v in few mails todaytill 10th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Prashant Ji, Thanks for your suggestions about ADYAR & c. There is a Sanskrit university and one Sanskrit research institute in my town, alongwith a general university, which have perhaps one lakh manuscripts. Due to organized theft by staff, I fear to visit these libraries, for fear of being involved in theft cases, because I had once filed and won a lawsuit against this Sanskrit university. I have many friends who are already endeavouring to search out manuscripts. I request yoy to use your contacts to enumerate how many manuscripts of BPHS are extant. I am alone not capable of doing all this work, and need help of others. I have firm proof of aspect being irrelevant in other divisionals, but it is of great importance in D1 which is not recognized or used by many astrologers now. Some softwares do not give aspect table. -Vinay Jha =========== ================== ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Friday, May 8, 2009 8:28:39 AM Re: Parasara-BPHS & Parashari system of predictive astrology 8/5 Dear Vinay ji, thanks for the reply. and can say a few things that can help u ADYAR LIBRARY RESEARCH CENTER, ADYAR CHENNAI HAS MANY RARE MANSCRIPTS THAT CAN BE STUDIED ONY IN THE PREMISIS In a fully a/c preserved palm leaves, really rare ones well preserved u also see many scholars sitng there for ages reading material taking notes, it also has provision for photo coying at their premisis and is expensive as the proceeds supports the preservation. Sarasvathi Mahal Library in tanjore which was locked by successive DK clone govts now has been opened for public has very many unknown, hidden , rare palm leaves thew DK parties [dravida Kalagam writtien as Kazagam] never wanted to show anyonther culture, work superior to the BRITISH SCRIPTED ARYAN/DRAVIDIAN DIVDE OR fault lines. u can find mamy good works if u want too before it is too late one vedic scholar in Pune too had advertised a few yrs ago os such rare works and wanted to teach, impart the knowledge to anyone desiring such knowledge not sure if he is still ALIVE don't remember much of it now. BACK TO UR main reply ASPECTS IN VARGAS ARE NOT THERE SO TO YOGAS B Y ASPECT BUT IF BY MERE COMBINATION IT IS THERE IT IS USED PROVIDED THE MAIN d1 CHART HAS ALSO SUCH status min not a -ve state that is if u have a gajakesari yoga in any of the Bhagya related vargas and a sakata yoga in D1 NO USE. i HOPE SOME ONE LIKE U OR FROM UR STUDENTS TAKE UP THE WORK OF COLLECTING VARIOUS VERSIONS OF EVERY CLASSIC AND COMPILE THEM AS IT IS AND THEN RELEASE A subsequet obe with any critical info for the students , practioneers in future generations on any anomalies, ambiguities that have crept in by time as most material was pasewd from memory to nex generation by memory and destroyed the inbetween memorising material [palm leaves] I am replyinh to RRjis' msg today and see that also from what little I know of course prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:18:40 PM Re: Parasara-BPHS & Parashari system of predictive astrology Prashant Ji, By Sage Parashara's system, I do not mean BPHS or Madhya or Laghu Parashari texts alone, but all those works by others, esp ancient and mediaeval authors, who follow his system, because among all rishis only Parashara's phalita system has survived in detail. Those texts which have important differences do not come under Parashari system of predictive astrology. Only two chapters of Jaimini are extant. Sage Bhrihu's original work is lost, hence among rishis Parashara is our sole guide. Most or perhaps all ancient authors have followed Parashara's system to greater or lesser extent. We may find Parashara's views in books not written by him, and wrong views interpolated in BPHS. Even BPHS has many variants and almost all of them have smaller or bigger segments not actually written by Sage Parashara. Hence, Parashari is a system and not a particular book, although BPHS or Madhya or Laghu Parashari texts are most reliable texts which can help us to learn the original system of Sage Parashara. Unfortunately, no big effort has been made to collect all manuscripts of BPHS and to prepare a critical edition with reference to all variants, mainly because the ruling establishment of India has no interest in Phalita (althogh all of them, including many scientists, consult astrologers in private). I use BPHS of Chowkhamba because it was prepared after consulting a large number of manuscripts. But even this versions has doubtful passages. Therefore, we have to rely on our critical faculties. The basic rules used for assessing D1 apply to other vargas too. It is a moot point whether yogas apply to D1 alone or to other vargas too. My experience is that aspect has relevance in D1 only, which is natural because other vargas do not represent planets in their actual zodiacal position. As for shodashvargas, Parashara has not said much on predictive aspects. Shodashvarga- Prakash is a mediaeval text which throws more light on shodashvarga than any other text. It should be studied critically.Shodashv arga-Prakash has enumerated a large number of combinations which may be said to be special yogas pertinent to perticular vargas. -VJ ============ ====== ====== ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Thursday, May 7, 2009 5:51:25 PM Parasara-BPHS 7/5 Dear vinay ji which version of BPHS r u using and can u list out other BPHS in circulation and differences in them- I mean older ones only the Venkteswara press one from Varanasi is widely respected. one more from Mumbai forgot the translator, and press the 1st said one I've seen justice kapoor of ICAS give excellent forecasts based on varga charts and again on traditional or establied calculations model used now he has a great library and quote from any work at will in dasamsa for instance based on the 10th lords location in the D10 chart and occupants in D10 it is given a name by parasara which almost describes the profesion literally say a metalergist for a engineer, or a accountat, a soldier, a priest a trader... v clearly this can also be used for birth time rectification incases where we see some mis-match Prashant * time constraints I am v in few mails todaytill 10th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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