Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 To All : A detailed case study Daughter_Born <http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Daughter_Born> has been posted at the jyotirvidya website (http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Daughter_Born). It illustrates the use of D1 in combination with D7 for offsprings with reference to timing of event on two parallel methods : Vimshottari and Varsha-pravesha chart (and maasa-pravesha chart). It also illustrates how to use Ashtaka-varga for this purpose. According to the first computer programmer of Ashtakavarga Mr Shyam Kansal, Kundalee presents the most comprehensive treatment of Ashtakavarga among horoscope softwares. And it is most accurate too, astrologically. Hence, evaluate Kundalee astrologically, and forget comparison with physical planetary positions. As long as you will try to compare Kundalee's planetary positions with those of physical planets, you will acquire an unconscious bias which will prevent you from evaluate this ancient magic astrologically. -VJ ================================ ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I began looking at what you had posted. The birthdata information is: " Following is the case study of Acubens's horoscope (birth time 02:08:1972, 18:04:28 PM local or 20:34:28 IST, Donetsk 37:53:38 N, 47:57:37 ) ; whose daughter was born on 20:04:1994 at 18:38 IST. " Few clarifications/elaborations if you please: I presume that you use the DD MM YYYY convention as I believe is used in India and few other nations. So the birthdate is 2nd of august 1972, correct? The birthtime is given as 18:04:28 PM local. I know you probably did not mean LMT but whatever the standard zone is for Donetsk. Does Donesk utilize daylight saving time and has that been already corrected for. Time zone confusions have been rather rampant and bothersome! The birthtime is recorded in HH.MM.SS. It is very unusual for the birthtime to be recorded with such precision! Is this birthtime rectified (as often is the case when seconds show up) and if so, it would be useful to give the details about that. What was the original birthtime? How much was the rectified different from the original. Was the rectification done by you? All these are important questions and should have been clarified in the writeup to avoid confusions and uncertainties about the quality of data used. This should be standard practice in any research. Thanks Rohiniranjan , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > To All : > > A detailed case study Daughter_Born > <http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Daughter_Born> has been posted > at the jyotirvidya website > (http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Daughter_Born). It illustrates the > use of D1 in combination with D7 for offsprings with reference to timing > of event on two parallel methods : Vimshottari and Varsha-pravesha chart > (and maasa-pravesha chart). > > It also illustrates how to use Ashtaka-varga for this purpose. According > to the first computer programmer of Ashtakavarga Mr Shyam Kansal, > Kundalee presents the most comprehensive treatment of Ashtakavarga among > horoscope softwares. And it is most accurate too, astrologically. Hence, > evaluate Kundalee astrologically, and forget comparison with physical > planetary positions. As long as you will try to compare Kundalee's > planetary positions with those of physical planets, you will acquire an > unconscious bias which will prevent you from evaluate this ancient magic > astrologically. > > -VJ > ================================ ===== > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 RR ji, Mr Acuben did not like his private data on internet and asked me to remove it, although it contained nothing negative about him. Actually, he is angry at me because I use a " wrong " astronomy. -VJ ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Saturday, May 2, 2009 2:40:39 AM Re: A Case Study (with Kundalee software) Dear Vinay Jha Ji, I began looking at what you had posted. The birthdata information is: " Following is the case study of Acubens's horoscope (birth time 02:08:1972, 18:04:28 PM local or 20:34:28 IST, Donetsk 37:53:38 N, 47:57:37 ) ; whose daughter was born on 20:04:1994 at 18:38 IST. " Few clarifications/ elaborations if you please: I presume that you use the DD MM YYYY convention as I believe is used in India and few other nations. So the birthdate is 2nd of august 1972, correct? The birthtime is given as 18:04:28 PM local. I know you probably did not mean LMT but whatever the standard zone is for Donetsk. Does Donesk utilize daylight saving time and has that been already corrected for. Time zone confusions have been rather rampant and bothersome! The birthtime is recorded in HH.MM.SS. It is very unusual for the birthtime to be recorded with such precision! Is this birthtime rectified (as often is the case when seconds show up) and if so, it would be useful to give the details about that. What was the original birthtime? How much was the rectified different from the original. Was the rectification done by you? All these are important questions and should have been clarified in the writeup to avoid confusions and uncertainties about the quality of data used. This should be standard practice in any research. Thanks Rohiniranjan , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > To All : > > A detailed case study Daughter_Born > <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Daughter_ Born> has been posted > at the jyotirvidya website > (http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Daughter_ Born). It illustrates the > use of D1 in combination with D7 for offsprings with reference to timing > of event on two parallel methods : Vimshottari and Varsha-pravesha chart > (and maasa-pravesha chart). > > It also illustrates how to use Ashtaka-varga for this purpose. According > to the first computer programmer of Ashtakavarga Mr Shyam Kansal, > Kundalee presents the most comprehensive treatment of Ashtakavarga among > horoscope softwares. And it is most accurate too, astrologically. Hence, > evaluate Kundalee astrologically, and forget comparison with physical > planetary positions. As long as you will try to compare Kundalee's > planetary positions with those of physical planets, you will acquire an > unconscious bias which will prevent you from evaluate this ancient magic > astrologically. > > -VJ > ============ ========= ========= == ===== > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I am sorry to hear that. It is always a good idea to check before posting. If he had posted his data on a public forum then he should not have any reason to be upset, but if he shared it privately with you, then that would be another issue. Anyways, when people approach me with birth times that go all the way to seconds, I ask two questions: Was the data rectified? Was it back-calculated from ghati-pal (from a tewa). But do not lose heart, there will be lots of examples for you to work from. Rather than associating a person's name with data in my internet readings I utilize an information string that generally contains the birthdata and gender. In the past I have added the initials but that is overkill because very rarely do two birthepochs are identical -- not even in the case of identical twins. RR , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > RR ji, > Mr Acuben did not like his private data on internet and asked me to remove it, although it contained nothing negative about him. Actually, he is angry at me because I use a " wrong " astronomy. > -VJ > > > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Saturday, May 2, 2009 2:40:39 AM > Re: A Case Study (with Kundalee software) > > > > > > Dear Vinay Jha Ji, > > I began looking at what you had posted. The birthdata information is: " Following is the case study of Acubens's horoscope (birth time 02:08:1972, 18:04:28 PM local or 20:34:28 IST, Donetsk 37:53:38 N, 47:57:37 ) ; whose daughter was born on 20:04:1994 at 18:38 IST. " > > Few clarifications/ elaborations if you please: > > I presume that you use the DD MM YYYY convention as I believe is used in India and few other nations. So the birthdate is 2nd of august 1972, correct? > > The birthtime is given as 18:04:28 PM local. I know you probably did not mean LMT but whatever the standard zone is for Donetsk. Does Donesk utilize daylight saving time and has that been already corrected for. Time zone confusions have been rather rampant and bothersome! > > The birthtime is recorded in HH.MM.SS. It is very unusual for the birthtime to be recorded with such precision! Is this birthtime rectified (as often is the case when seconds show up) and if so, it would be useful to give the details about that. What was the original birthtime? How much was the rectified different from the original. Was the rectification done by you? > > All these are important questions and should have been clarified in the writeup to avoid confusions and uncertainties about the quality of data used. This should be standard practice in any research. > > Thanks > > Rohiniranjan > > , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > To All : > > > > A detailed case study Daughter_Born > > <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Daughter_ Born> has been posted > > at the jyotirvidya website > > (http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Daughter_ Born). It illustrates the > > use of D1 in combination with D7 for offsprings with reference to timing > > of event on two parallel methods : Vimshottari and Varsha-pravesha chart > > (and maasa-pravesha chart). > > > > It also illustrates how to use Ashtaka-varga for this purpose. According > > to the first computer programmer of Ashtakavarga Mr Shyam Kansal, > > Kundalee presents the most comprehensive treatment of Ashtakavarga among > > horoscope softwares. And it is most accurate too, astrologically. Hence, > > evaluate Kundalee astrologically, and forget comparison with physical > > planetary positions. As long as you will try to compare Kundalee's > > planetary positions with those of physical planets, you will acquire an > > unconscious bias which will prevent you from evaluate this ancient magic > > astrologically. > > > > -VJ > > ============ ========= ========= == ===== > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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