Classics = Astrotreasures?

April 27, 2009

Dear Krishnan-dada,

I have already written long ago about that on boloji, and not out of spite or

arrogance but 'otherwise'!

Sometimes -- as I have known in my personal reality, the physical/worldly and

otherwise -- only when one challenges one's parents -- one 'opens' the

possibility opening up that allows one to see the parent go dumb-founded for a

second and very angry for a moment but the smile that follows can really FREE

you! You would still be welcome back home for sumptious dinners (MA still rules

the roost!), but YOU (not the impersonal 'one!') realize at that moment that you

are free, grown and released!

Trikonas, dada! Self, progeny and source. 1,5,9. Trikonas were meant to be

independent and not 'co-dependent' as the bad term in the 90's was meant to

stand for!

While the kendras: 1-4-7-10 were never meant to be disparate or separated or

isolated, but meant to be integral -- 1,5,9 were never meant to be anything but

sequential. Like a relay race, the torch being handed to the next runner when

the previous runner stops for a well-deserved rest!

It is not an accident that trikonas are about TIME which by its very nature is

sequential, while kendras are situational and beyond time in a sense!

And is it simply an accident that the lagna was meant to experience both

realities: Time and Circumstances?

Rohiniranjan

, vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Rohini Dada,

> I think some how Astrologers also have a flair for mining and treasure hunting

hobbies.We have our own trusted versions of classicals with sufficient analysis

on principle of Astrology.It is ofcourse healthy disagree to pursue a different

path apparoach.Now jyotish has some " ganit " in it as the models with degrees

,movements(back and forth) and charts to make vaialable for analysis.

> with these devilish tools of internet and the media we come across more bugs

than we can deal.

> It is really not an easy task first to find that something was not correctly

thought over in classicals and come up with some revealations.we know sages when

made forecaste never counted on equinoxes and precessions.I recall that article

/write up in AM 2007 where sages identified signs as 12 and planets as seven

with Kala as rutus as five.these are ofcourse even till today.we also depend on

all these basics to conjure as prediction and deliver for the benifit of

members.How far these predictions will be of accuract,it is always matter of

conjecture and always puts most of us in piquant situation to deal with.So

Kundalee is some thing that we recognise and expect it to be of some help to

make our trade as most rverred and respectful.How far this can be achieved can

be left to the members as judges.we say,opine and and detail things but the

force beyond us in wahtever shape is present has also to lend support for our

ongoing thoughts.otherwise a poor

> man(gareeb,helpless creature ) has only choice to bite and bleed his lips out

of his anguish and helplessnes

> vrkrishnan

> --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Tks Rohini Ji...ts Plz Mr.JhaTks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee

>

> Monday, April 27, 2009, 7:04 PM

>

Is there any preliminary evidence that these (whatever 'these' are) are " super

sciences " ? Would it not make more sense to go into the exploration with an open

and as neutral as possible mind? And then let the chips fall where they may.

>

> Ego is not always the driver in these things, sometimes there may be other

karmic reasons, perhaps earlier versions of the ego that were hurt or felt

injured or exploited or maltreated. Sometimes it could also be unfinished

business :-)

>

> Sadly, astrology (like psychology earlier...!) has become the metaphorical

" Gareeb ki joru saab ki bhaabi! " which is unjustified and tries to paint with a

broad brush everyone because of the faults of a few.

>

> Anyway, let us get back to the original discourse, whatever it was in this

thread.

>

> RR

>

> , " Pom " <pankajdhar@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Tks Rohini Ji.

> >

> > But my aispiration is just that these super sceinces come up the " right "

way- not my personal ego or my victory.

> >

> > Though I do have an ego like everyone else.

> >

> > take care,

> > Punkajj

> > , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Dhar ji,

> > >

> > > You must seek and connect with Mr. Khandelwal who has similar aspirations

as you do, if I am not mistaken. He has experienced many jyotishis in India and

is not impressed and is planning to create a website that will reveal it all!

> > >

> > > I think he is working down there from a location down south somewhere in

North America...

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , " Pom " <pankajdhar@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr jha-

> > > >

> > > > 1)kindly donot make any unwarranted judgements..

> > > > " There are four case studies on this page (from last year, which you

overlooked) "

> > > >

> > > > You agreed to do the 10 cases studieds correct....- you said you need

some time? That si what we are talking about.

> > > >

> > > > 2)

> > > > This again is not a correct statement(Given below, the part b)).

> > > >

> > > > I have worked with this(though briefly), and plan to take if forward

with one of the very learned astrologers in this forum(sorry name cannot be

shared at this point of time).

> > > >

> > > > So please as you are a swami- no unwarranted judgments..Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > "

> > > > a)I am developing modules for helping astrologers in making accurate

prediction, something like artificial intelligence through neural networks,

taking various dynamic factors into account while ascertaining net outcome of a

house and finding its timing.

> > > >

> > > > b)It is a project no software developer ever attempted in Vedic

Astrology (some neural network approaches were made in Western astrology). "

> > > >

> > > > Please understand this as a gentlemenly gesture...if you can provide set

of 10 cases and then more..it would be great...(clarity in thought processes

leads to development of tool.., when we try to automate the steps. correct)

> > > >

> > > > AS this basic case proving is not there..so I have my own doubts on the

scientific process..being followed...neural nets...etc is just an extension/a

tool to our thought process.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Punkajj

> > > >

> > > > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Punkajj Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > There are four case studies on this page (from last year, which you

overlooked) :

> > > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Prediction+ of+Death

> > > > >

> > > > > One case is at (from Dec 2008, which you overlooked) :

> > > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Brain+Damage

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a mundane case study at :

> > > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+ %3A+Apr+2009-

Mar+2010

> > > > >

> > > > > I started a detailed biographical study of Napoleon with details of

all major events of his life at

> > > > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Napoleon+ Bonaparte

> > > > >

> > > > > which is finished but I could not get it typed on the webpage due to

my preoccupation in software development. I am developing modules for helping

astrologers in making accurate prediction, something like artificial

intelligence through neural networks, taking various dynamic factors into

account while ascertaining net outcome of a house and finding its timing. It is

a project no software developer ever attempted in Vedic Astrology (some neural

network approaches were made in Western astrology).

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > >

> > > > > ============ == ============ =

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Pom <pankajdhar@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:01:01 PM

> > > > > Tks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee Free Software : New

Version 4.1.1 Upload

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Suresh Ji- Thanks for the nice analysis.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually I tried to install it on windows 2000 and got some dll not

found.

> > > > >

> > > > > I did not try beyond it....

> > > > >

> > > > > I might try agains.. as atleats I want to corroborate readings iwth

Mr. Jha's assertions..

> > > > >

> > > > > Vinay Ji-?? Still waiting for the cases- starting with 10 examples.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not sure when we could have them?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > Punkajj

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sureshbabuag "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Namasthe

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I dowloaded the Program & just copied in the earlier installed

folder. It works fine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Error you are getting is not C programe error or virus

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if you search for the error code on microsoft.com, this is what you

get

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //

> > > > > > The error message is due to wrong version of windows oz

> > > > > > " VB6stkit.dll is not a valid Windows NT image "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " The system could not locate the file '<Temp Folder>\Msftqws.

pdw\Vb6stkit. dll'. Would you like to browse for the file yourself? "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " The system could not locate the file '<Temp Folder>\Windows\

Temp\Msftqws. pdw\St6unst. exe'. Would you like to browse for the file yourself?

"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " where <Temp Folder> is the Windows\Temp folder on Windows 95,

Windows 98, or Windows Me or the folder specified by the TEMP environment

variable on Windows NT. "

> > > > > > //

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hence , it is evident that The setup utility cannot find the " Temp "

folder. This happens if the Package & devlopment is created in windows 95/98/me

& later installed on windows xp or windows NT or Vista. Or Vice versa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In Xp or above the " temp " folder is created in User account folders

(Documents & Settings) where as in 95/98/Me it is default in windows/temp

> > > > > >

> > > > > > in Xp or above you can create a new temp folder and asign it to

environment variable by right clicking on " my computer " - select advanced tab -

environment variables

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope this helps

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " vinayjhaa16 "

<vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Krishnan Ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After your complaint, I removed Kundalee from my computer,

downloaded it

> > > > > > > from http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html and

> > > > > > > installed it : I found no problem in running this program.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This new version was uploaded after 10 PM yesternight (IST), and

144

> > > > > > > persons have downloaded it till now, of whom two have complained.

One

> > > > > > > complaint was from Gopu ji who complained of a message " create

process()

> > > > > > > .. with error code 0x000000C1H " . It is a command in C-based

languages

> > > > > > > which I do not use. I work in Visual Basic which does not use any

> > > > > > > command like create process . There must be some virus made in

C-based

> > > > > > > language. If such a virus exists in my computer, I could not use

this

> > > > > > > software at all. Hence, there must be someting in the internet ( I

dare

> > > > > > > not say any virus in others' computers, although 99% of Indian

computers

> > > > > > > I saw were virus infected).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I asked Gopu ji about which server he used for downloading, I gave

two

> > > > > > > alternative sources on that page , one is full package at :

> > > > > > > http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html

> > > > > > > <http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html> and

another is in

> > > > > > > files section at the bottom of that page, split in two parts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I requested him to give me details of his OS, messages during

> > > > > > > installation, problems in starting (appearance of data fprm : is

it

> > > > > > > defective ?). He had no time to inform me. Your problem is even

more

> > > > > > > enigmatic : " similar problem " . Ask any expert whether create

process()

> > > > > > > is a VB command of not. This problem cannot be traced on my side,

it

> > > > > > > must be on the other side.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Without being informed about the problem, I am incapable of

suggesting

> > > > > > > any solution. Some users think I am not doing anything to remove

such

> > > > > > > problems.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > ============ = ============

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > > > Similar problem Iam alao having after down load of the

software4.1. 1

> > > > > > > of Kundalee

> > > > > > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@

> > > > > > > > Re: Kundalee Free Software : New Version 4.1.1

Uploaded

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:09 AM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (My answer to Acuben's message):

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > -Vinay Jha========= === ============ =

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:03:27 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Kundalee Free Software : New Version 4.1.1

Uploaded

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear shir vinay jha,

> > > > > > > > I have downloaded the software from the site u had given.

> > > > > > > > But on running the setup.exe i get the following error and

> > > > > > > > the installation gets aborted.

> > > > > > > > " cannot start main setup program! (create process()returned

error

> > > > > > > > code 0x000000C1H) '

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THis is for ur kind information.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 4/25/09, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > > > > > > > Kundalee Free Software : New Version 4.1.1

Uploaded

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> > > > > > > > Saturday, April 25, 2009, 8:51 AM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > New Version4.1.1 of Kundalee software was uploaded yesternight

and can

> > > > > > > > be downloaded from ClickHere

> > > > > > > > <http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html> .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Download links are at Here <http://kundalee. wikidot.com/ > and

> > > > > > > > Also_Here <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Software> .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Users should read following pages with solved examples for using

this

> > > > > > > > software : 1

> > > > > > > > <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Interpretation+

of+Horoscope+

> > > > > > > %3A+Ba\

> > > > > > > > sics> , 2

> > > > > > > > <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Origin+and+ Meaning+of+

> > > > > > > Horoscopic+ H\

> > > > > > > > ouses> , 3 <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Prediction+

> > > > > > > of+Death>

> > > > > > > > , 4 <http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Vimshottari+ Dasha>

..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This new version has a new page EventAnalysis which is dedicated

to

> > > > > > > > heuristic searching for accurateTiming of Events. No software

had made

> > > > > > > > such an effort in something likeArtificial Intelligence in the

field

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > Vedic Astrology. This new process is under further development

> > > > > > > > (presently in a rudimentary state, the next versionis under

tests) ,

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > will help beginners and experts alike, teaching thebeginners and

> > > > > > > saving

> > > > > > > > time of experts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -VJ

> > > > > > > > ============ ==== ============ ====

> > > > > > > >

April 28, 2009

Dear Dada,

It is again the same old big bang theory whcih should keep all doubts at

rest.Iam still at large to know why again Siddhantas gain momentum.Is it not the

small is part of the whole.How do we really percieve reality in a wholistic

way.This what all lerned men emphsised.why do not we heed to them/

Time and Circumstances along with situational needs form wholistic base for

Kundalee.KundaleE as such has to drive the Astrologer with some form of

linguistic approach

Classics what ever could divulge for each one of us need to be preserved without

much distortions and build up future in modern times in an understandable way

and pacify the chasers who insist for resolutions of various issues presented