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Mr. Jha:

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I ma not sure, why areent you getting things straight.

 

1) Your unwarranted judgmnet- was regarding my not seeing your

examples...oversight a judgmnet on how I work.

 

This is incorrect, as I am fully aware of what you have done, we had agreed upon

a process- which I was trying to follow up with you.

 

Regarding the examples- they " might " be right- but no where near what it should

be to prove your theory...unless it is systematcially compared with other

ephemeris and a cosnsitent method of interpretetion used..

 

I hope you got this point clear??

 

2) How I have learnt neural networks- you have made a commnet on the same. How

can you judge that?? This gain is an unwarrnetd judgemnet about me.

 

Now do you understand what I mean ??

 

First thing frist- neueral networks orginated from study of brain networks and

then got applied to other barnches...there might have been cross learnings..

 

But based on this I will not draw a judgment- that the fundamentals of NN are

skewed...

 

Rememeber frist comes the A)MATHEMATICS(n general barraing special case)--->

then the B)SCEINCE and then the C)TECHNOLOGY and applications..

 

NN was originated st level A).Then applied to various systems.

 

Also remember- no where the intent was to discount anyopne's work...or effort

towards astrology..

 

MS. Rohini Ji:

=============

 

Thanks fro your kind advice.

 

a)Actually I personally donot have any probelms in accepting things which add

value( you recall the discussion on BLACK BELTS in astrology- which I belived

but many other people did not..as they considered..).

 

b) I trust there was a comment made for mr. Jha by some one in the forum that he

has nothing useful to offer? Do you recall?

 

I did not pay any heed to the commnet ..and went forward to see what best could

be gotten out of the situation.

 

My belief is in ASTROLOGY..than any individual....

 

My key INTENT is astrology as a sceince shoudl come up.

 

Not at the expense msyelf or anyone else..

 

Take care,

Punkajj

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> RR JI,

> Dhar Ji says it is my duty to " prove " the soundness of my software, which he

will touch only after I prove it to be true. The case studies I offered for

review are " unwarranted judgements " by me, and does not specify what are his

points of differences.

>

> I think it is me and not my software who is in the wrong. Mr Dhar says : " I

have my own doubts on the scientific process..being followed (by Vinay Jha) " . It

is not clear whether he has cared to look at the case studies I offered

(Napoleon, Hitler, Nehru, Lincoln). Why he passes such remark agsinst me without

a fair discussion is not difficult to gather, as he says : " as you are a swami-

no unwarranted judgments (about neural networks).

>

> He does not know that neural network is not exact copying of workings of

brain, but a special technique used in weather forecasting ans in Western

mundane astrology, besides economic forecasts.

>

> I do not know whether Mr. Khandelwal has similar aspirations about me. Mr Dhar

will do a fine job in starting a website to " reveal " my " unwarranted judgements "

in Prediction of Death .

>

> -VJ

>

> ============= ============

>

> ________________________________

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

>

> Monday, April 27, 2009 8:41:13 AM

> No judgements Plz Mr.JhaTks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Dhar ji,

>

> You must seek and connect with Mr. Khandelwal who has similar aspirations as

you do, if I am not mistaken. He has experienced many jyotishis in India and is

not impressed and is planning to create a website that will reveal it all!

>

> I think he is working down there from a location down south somewhere in North

America...

>

> RR

>

> , " Pom " <pankajdhar@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr jha-

> >

> > 1)kindly donot make any unwarranted judgements..

> > " There are four case studies on this page (from last year, which you

overlooked) "

> >

> > You agreed to do the 10 cases studieds correct....- you said you need some

time? That si what we are talking about.

> >

> >

> > 2)

> > This again is not a correct statement(Given below, the part b)).

> >

> > I have worked with this(though briefly), and plan to take if forward with

one of the very learned astrologers in this forum(sorry name cannot be shared at

this point of time).

> >

> > So please as you are a swami- no unwarranted judgments..Thanks.

> >

> >

> > "

> > a)I am developing modules for helping astrologers in making accurate

prediction, something like artificial intelligence through neural networks,

taking various dynamic factors into account while ascertaining net outcome of a

house and finding its timing.

> >

> > b)It is a project no software developer ever attempted in Vedic Astrology

(some neural network approaches were made in Western astrology). "

> >

> >

> > Please understand this as a gentlemenly gesture...if you can provide set of

10 cases and then more..it would be great...(clarity in thought processes leads

to development of tool.., when we try to automate the steps. correct)

> >

> > AS this basic case proving is not there..so I have my own doubts on the

scientific process..being followed...neural nets...etc is just an extension/a

tool to our thought process.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Punkajj

> >

> >

> > , Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Punkajj Ji,

> > >

> > > There are four case studies on this page (from last year, which you

overlooked) :

> > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Prediction+ of+Death

> > >

> > > One case is at (from Dec 2008, which you overlooked) :

> > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Brain+Damage

> > >

> > > There is a mundane case study at :

> > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ World+Economy+ %3A+Apr+2009-

Mar+2010

> > >

> > > I started a detailed biographical study of Napoleon with details of all

major events of his life at

> > > http://jyotirvidya. wetpaint. com/page/ Napoleon+ Bonaparte

> > >

> > > which is finished but I could not get it typed on the webpage due to my

preoccupation in software development. I am developing modules for helping

astrologers in making accurate prediction, something like artificial

intelligence through neural networks, taking various dynamic factors into

account while ascertaining net outcome of a house and finding its timing. It is

a project no software developer ever attempted in Vedic Astrology (some neural

network approaches were made in Western astrology).

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > >

> > > ============ == ============ =

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Pom <pankajdhar@ >

> > >

> > > Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:01:01 PM

> > > Tks- Suresh/Vinay Ji?Re: Kundalee Free Software : New

Version 4.1.1 Upload

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh Ji- Thanks for the nice analysis.

> > >

> > > Actually I tried to install it on windows 2000 and got some dll not found.

> > >

> > > I did not try beyond it....

> > >

> > > I might try agains.. as atleats I want to corroborate readings iwth Mr.

Jha's assertions..

> > >

> > > Vinay Ji-?? Still waiting for the cases- starting with 10 examples.

> > >

> > > Not sure when we could have them?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > Punkajj

> > >

> > > , " sureshbabuag " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namasthe

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I dowloaded the Program & just copied in the earlier installed folder.

It works fine.

> > > >

> > > > The Error you are getting is not C programe error or virus

> > > >

> > > > if you search for the error code on microsoft.com, this is what you get

> > > >

> > > > //

> > > > The error message is due to wrong version of windows oz

> > > > " VB6stkit.dll is not a valid Windows NT image "

> > > >

> > > > " The system could not locate the file '<Temp Folder>\Msftqws.

pdw\Vb6stkit. dll'. Would you like to browse for the file yourself? "

> > > >

> > > > " The system could not locate the file '<Temp Folder>\Windows\

Temp\Msftqws. pdw\St6unst. exe'. Would you like to browse for the file yourself?

"

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " where <Temp Folder> is the Windows\Temp folder on Windows 95, Windows

98, or Windows Me or the folder specified by the TEMP environment variable on

Windows NT. "

> > > > //

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hence , it is evident that The setup utility cannot find the " Temp "

folder. This happens if the Package & devlopment is created in windows 95/98/me

& later installed on windows xp or windows NT or Vista. Or Vice versa.

> > > >

> > > > In Xp or above the " temp " folder is created in User account folders

(Documents & Settings) where as in 95/98/Me it is default in windows/temp

> > > >

> > > > in Xp or above you can create a new temp folder and asign it to

environment variable by right clicking on " my computer " - select advanced tab -

environment variables

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I hope this helps

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " vinayjhaa16 " <vinayjhaa16@ >

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Krishnan Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > After your complaint, I removed Kundalee from my computer, downloaded

it

> > > > > from http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html and

> > > > > installed it : I found no problem in running this program.

> > > > >

> > > > > This new version was uploaded after 10 PM yesternight (IST), and 144

> > > > > persons have downloaded it till now, of whom two have complained. One

> > > > > complaint was from Gopu ji who complained of a message " create

process()

> > > > > .. with error code 0x000000C1H " . It is a command in C-based

languages

> > > > > which I do not use. I work in Visual Basic which does not use any

> > > > > command like create process . There must be some virus made in C-based

> > > > > language. If such a virus exists in my computer, I could not use this

> > > > > software at all. Hence, there must be someting in the internet ( I

dare

> > > > > not say any virus in others' computers, although 99% of Indian

computers

> > > > > I saw were virus infected).

> > > > >

> > > > > I asked Gopu ji about which server he used for downloading, I gave two

> > > > > alternative sources on that page , one is full package at :

> > > > > http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html

> > > > > <http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html> and another

is in

> > > > > files section at the bottom of that page, split in two parts.

> > > > >

> > > > > I requested him to give me details of his OS, messages during

> > > > > installation, problems in starting (appearance of data fprm : is it

> > > > > defective ?). He had no time to inform me. Your problem is even more

> > > > > enigmatic : " similar problem " . Ask any expert whether create process()

> > > > > is a VB command of not. This problem cannot be traced on my side, it

> > > > > must be on the other side.

> > > > >

> > > > > Without being informed about the problem, I am incapable of suggesting

> > > > > any solution. Some users think I am not doing anything to remove such

> > > > > problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > -VJ

> > > > > ============ = ============

> > > > >

> > > > > , vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sir,

> > > > > > Similar problem Iam alao having after down load of the software4.1.

1

> > > > > of Kundalee

> > > > > > vrkrishnan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vinay Jha vinayjhaa16@

> > > > > > Re: Kundalee Free Software : New Version 4.1.1

Uploaded

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:09 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (My answer to Acuben's message):

> > > > > >

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http://kundalee. wikidot.com/

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Vinay Jha========= === ============ =

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > K Gopu kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturday, April 25, 2009 2:03:27 PM

> > > > > > Re: Kundalee Free Software : New Version 4.1.1

Uploaded

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear shir vinay jha,

> > > > > > I have downloaded the software from the site u had given.

> > > > > > But on running the setup.exe i get the following error and

> > > > > > the installation gets aborted.

> > > > > > " cannot start main setup program! (create process()returned error

> > > > > > code 0x000000C1H) '

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THis is for ur kind information.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks,

> > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sat, 4/25/09, vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vinayjhaa16 <vinayjhaa16@ >

> > > > > > Kundalee Free Software : New Version 4.1.1 Uploaded

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturday, April 25, 2009, 8:51 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > New Version4.1.1 of Kundalee software was uploaded yesternight and

can

> > > > > > be downloaded from ClickHere

> > > > > > <http://www.datafile host.com/ download- 7bbb1470. html> .

> > > > > >

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> > > > > > Users should read following pages with solved examples for using

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> > > > > > This new version has a new page EventAnalysis which is dedicated to

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made

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> > > > > > -VJ

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