Rohini Ji...- black belts..:0... on the lighetr side...QUIZ ANS

April 20, 2009

Good post and astute observation Raj ji but you do realize that you may have

created problems for " SUHDIR JI " (Sudhir ji, presumably?) because now he will

get all those " Dear Guruji... " requests :-)

But I am just teasing ... ;-)

, " raj_ks1 " <raj_ks1 wrote:

>

> Hi to all,

> This is my observation from the Quiz.

> It was a good one and did a good job of showing that if " a date " is just a

point in time in the time dimension, It will be very difficult to pin point

exactly what happened or what will happen on that day. The result of Astrology

analysis is like a linear equation with just too many variables. I think what it

can do really well is highlight a event in the area of interest. Had more

" variables " been defined by Tanvir Ji (like it relates to health etc), there

would have been better success rate.

> I am not an amateur or professional astrologer but have been a student of

science. I do tend to question the applicability of the question in the context

of answer sought and so in the case of Quiz the results might have been more

encouraging based on other information provided.

>

> However, If all do look back at the responses, SUHDIR JI gave one of the best

and most accurate assessment. His reply was short but he did mention event

relates to " personal health problem " .

>

> This is an excellent forum. And all the help from all esteemed members is most

appreciated by members like me.

> Thank you all.

> Raj

>

> , " Pom " <pankajdhar@> wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Ji,

> > The fuzzy and probabilistic nature of Jyotish is well known- so I

am not sure- what is the debate about.

> >

> > 9pattern of events can be predicted, and filtering and isolation ..is much

tougher and at times not possible unless multiple systems are sued in certain

cases- not always possible).

> >

> > But within these constraints - some people could be very good.

> >

> > Infact in my days at college there was a guy who used to solve open problesm

in mathemtaics( 70 years open involving comeplex geometries..) in a few

minutes.. His boss used to ask him to not tow ork.. he is currently in Belur

Math...(all this can be verified and validated..)..

> >

> > BTW- he also studies and mastered jyotisha very quickly...

> > ( he used to solve 5 phd probelms while playing harmonium...it was a well

known fcat in the campus).

> >

> > There were many others....but...

> >

> > We limit our eveluation based on our expereinces..yes..there are

masters...at the same time I agree that a lot of tall claims are also there...

> >

> > In any case it is a matter of perception...if is 6(six), 9( nine) or

sigma...or anything else...

> >

> > Take Care

> > Punkajj

> >

> > , " Pom " <pankajdhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tanvir Ji,

> > >

> > > Sorry to know about it.

> > >

> > > But on the lighetr side- " donot you think it is a dream fulfilled?? "

> > >

> > > May be inadvertently in the past lives...we astrologers..- I am

kidding,generally slip away.....includes myself...(but you see atleast this

year would be too stressful part is correct , may be we can shift the honor

for some other time..but you wil get it..).

> > >

> > > Sorry, I could not do a VA anlysis for the same..but it would have been

tough .. in any case- let me or any one..let us..accept it..

> > >

> > > Actually filtering events might be i) very detailed ii) tough- as each

hsoue and plante has multiple significations...

> > >

> > > I have met a a very few BLACK BELTS..who can really isolate events to such

accuary..

> > >

> > > Get well soon.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Punkajj C Dhar

> > >

> > > , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would

try!

> > > >

> > > > The answer to the quiz is ï¿½ on the day I found out that I have got

water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E).

> > > >

> > > > In the Vimsottari Dasha [Lahiri Ayanamsha of course] I was running

Me-Sa-Ju. Since the Maha Dasha lord is Lagna Lord Mercury (and afflicted one),

any adverse Antar Dasha which relates to health threat can be manifested very

easily. The Antar Dasha lord is a strong 6th lord [Disease] which afflicts the

Lagna Lord [Graha Drishti] as well.

> > > >

> > > > Now the Pratyantar Dasha lordï¿½ it is something very interesting.

Jupiter rules liver. And Jupiter is under effect of Saturn, because Ju is in the

nakshatra of Saturn. Thus liver is under threat of the lord of disease. Thus

under the Sat AD [Antar Dasha], any threat to health / disease can be manifested

on liver in Jupiter PD [Pratyantar Dasha].

> > > >

> > > > So all the MD-AD-PD are in harmony about the same thing ï¿½ health /

disease, related to liver also. Because MD lord Mercury is afflicted Lagna Lord

[health threat] and the afflicting 6th lord [disease] has its AD runningï¿½ and

the PD under this 6th lord's AD is of Jupiter who rules liver and is also

afflicted by this 6th lord again. So they all talk about this health / liver

problem in some way.

> > > >

> > > > I know, many won't agree to my concept that Ju gets afflicted by its

position in Saturn's nakshatra. But, they miss something very important in

Jyotish ï¿½ and won't be able to predict / explain so many major events in a

native's life.

> > > >

> > > > I must also elaborate further to explain Saturn's affect on Jupiter.

This is my 2nd time of water-carried jaundice. Guess when was the first time? It

was around in the 3rd week of Nov 2006, soon after my Sa AD [6th lord AD]

started ! So this Sat AD gave me jaundice twice ï¿½ once right after starting,

and another while quitting. This whole long AD didn't give me any other health

problems or disease, than jaundice. This talks about the effect of Sat on Ju.

> > > >

> > > > Also, on 1st May 2004 I found to have Hepatitis-B, I was running

Me-Rahu-Mars then. Jup AD to start soon. It was completely unexpected and an

absolute shock for me, for I didn't expect any illness in Rahu AD. But something

I forgot, that the last PD of an AD can behave like the upcoming AD if the PD

lord and upcoming AD lord indicate the same thing and are connected in the

chart. Mars and Jup are very strongly connected and the effect of their strong

connection is something I have extensively discussed in the past.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, Me-Ma-Ra did that because Me-Ju to come soon, and Ju and Ma are

related. When I found hep-B, I was very scared, and done a great deal of study

about hep-B. I read that in adult infection, 95% of the cases infection is

auto-cured and provides immunity and only rest 5% adults are chronically

infected. This was very hope giving, but since I got it in Ma PD, and Mars is

the 8th lord (long term and chronic diseases) I knew that perhaps I would fall

in the unlucky 5% of patients!

> > > >

> > > > Also, that time I saw that I would be having Jup AD soon, which is

negative for my liver, and after that Sat AD, another disease-giving planet. Sat

AD runs till May '09, so in that 2004 I knew that for the next 5 years the

periods are health-threatening, that again hints me that probably I would

develop chronic hep-B [for all life].

> > > >

> > > > By the way, I do not consider my hep-B infection [that time] to fully be

a `disease' in astrological sense because Hep-B is a hidden disease that

continues damaging the liver but without any sign of illness / physical

ill-being. To me in astrology, a disease generally should cause physical

ill-being, sick-feeling, taking rest, derivation from normal daily life, taking

medicine etc. so that the native `experiences' the disease. But to me, Hep-B

didn't do that. But it was a " problem / threat for liver " [long term threat

which Hep-B is] which is best explained / best labeled and it was caused by the

upcoming AD lord afflicted Ju since Ju rules liver, it gave a " threat " to the

liver than a `disease'.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway, being a jyotishi, did I expect / predict jaundice in Nov '06?

NO. Because, I didn't expect a water-carried jaundice, but I was expecting that

the already-found hep-B would be severe in that Me-SA-SA period. So, my strategy

was to avoid any blood test in that " danger period " because in any danger period

the result would be negative and when the danger period is over a better or

normal result can be expected. So ignoring it was the only solution to my mind.

But, since divinity is a lot smarter than me [and all of us] it had another way

to attack my liver.

> > > >

> > > > This avoiding the danger period concept was the same reason that I did

nothing after finding out in May 2004 that I have got hep-B. I knew I would be

in afflicted Ju AD, liver threat. SO digging in would cause me TO KNOW /

DISCOVER worse things about it. Like treatment, which can involve injection

thrice a week, which I fear so much, and also all the side effects. So what I

did, I planned to avoid hep-B completely till I finish all the threatening

periods till May '09.

> > > >

> > > > Later, as I said, I got water-carried jaundice in Nov 2006. I was sent

to my cousin's home for complete care, she is a Dr. There I rested for right

seven days, but being bored in their home, I got back to my own home where there

was no one, not even a servant. It was the pick of jaundice that time.

> > > >

> > > > I took the risk of coming back to a vacant home. And coming home, I

started a serious deal of mantras to heal jaundice. And it worked. Right after

two days, my eyes and urine started improving. And seeing it, I started every

kind of irregularity possible. Like going out everyday, eating outside, waking

nights, and what not. But same time I continued mantras, and jaundice continued

to be better.

> > > >

> > > > When jaundice was fully over in mid Dec 2006, the Dr insisted testing

the present condition of hep-B. I didn't have a choice then, even though I

wanted not to test it before May 2009. I tested, and proving my fear a reality,

found that it didn't heal ï¿½ rather it was chronic and will continue for all my

life.

> > > >

> > > > But since I already done a tremendous amount of mantras recently, one

good thing came out that hep-B got `inactive' which is harmless for me now.

Since I studied it a lot, I discussed with the Dr. that instead of treatment, we

can monitor it and test again after three months, to which he agreed.

> > > >

> > > > After three months I was not confident with my mantras, so I didn't

test. And I do a lot other mantras for other purposes than health and disease,

thus it was late and late, finally after 16 or 18 months I was confident and

felt that I have done enough mantras to face the truth now. I tested again, and

to my faith, had a very positive result. The hep-B virus count has came down to

2% [one-fiftieth] in last 18 months. So, I can skip treatment very safely now!

So did my trick work? You bet.

> > > >

> > > > Surprisingly, these two times of jaundice were the only major diseases I

had after I was grown up. Last time I had chicken pox when I was very young, and

that was in Sat MD also, in Ju AD !! So all the major diseases I get in Sat and

Jup combined periods onlyï¿½ proving my point of Saturn's effect on Ju.

> > > >

> > > > Comments as a quiz-participant: A 6th lord's AD, and another 6th

lord-afflicted planets PD very well suggests disease. As the 5th lord, some can

suggest professional success etc. But, we have to look at the PD lord, of

course. PD lord Ju doesn't have a good / harmonious relation with Sat. Also, Ju

doesn't relate to career, it's only 4th and 7th lord. So, why? Professional

success would involve 10th house / lord, or 11th (Gain, award, recognition) at

least. I think, having a child, though incorrect, but is a good guess. Because

Saturn is the 5th lord, with Jup natural karaka for the same. Another negative

guess is a fight / problem in the family / with mother. An exalted 6th lord

makes one defeat enemies, win in competitions etc., but not in a PD of natural

benefic planet like Jup. Still, I think, having a child is a good guess.

> > > >

> > > > Tanvir

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2009

Is not a quiz is also a brain teaser?Even health problems of some dimensions

need immediate Astro remedies can be considered for knowing how various

Astrologers view implications of position of planets vis-vis bahvas that are

influnecd.in this case viral infection of the nature mentioned are difficult to

comprehend through planetary ordes.

so a brain teaser which ofcourse made all of us refresh a bit

vrkrishnan

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Rohini Ji...- black belts..:0... on the lighetr side...Re: QUIZ

ANS

Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:49 AM

Good post and astute observation Raj ji but you do realize that you may have

created problems for " SUHDIR JI " (Sudhir ji, presumably?) because now he will

get all those " Dear Guruji... " requests :-)

But I am just teasing ... ;-)

, " raj_ks1 " <raj_ks1 > wrote:

>

> Hi to all,

> This is my observation from the Quiz.

> It was a good one and did a good job of showing that if " a date " is just a

point in time in the time dimension, It will be very difficult to pin point

exactly what happened or what will happen on that day. The result of Astrology

analysis is like a linear equation with just too many variables. I think what it

can do really well is highlight a event in the area of interest. Had more

" variables " been defined by Tanvir Ji (like it relates to health etc), there

would have been better success rate.

> I am not an amateur or professional astrologer but have been a student of

science. I do tend to question the applicability of the question in the context

of answer sought and so in the case of Quiz the results might have been more

encouraging based on other information provided.

>

> However, If all do look back at the responses, SUHDIR JI gave one of the best

and most accurate assessment. His reply was short but he did mention event

relates to " personal health problem " .

>

> This is an excellent forum. And all the help from all esteemed members is most

appreciated by members like me.

> Thank you all.

> Raj

>

> , " Pom " <pankajdhar@ > wrote:

> >

> > Rohini Ji,

> > The fuzzy and probabilistic nature of Jyotish is well known- so I am not

sure- what is the debate about.

> >

> > 9pattern of events can be predicted, and filtering and isolation ..is much

tougher and at times not possible unless multiple systems are sued in certain

cases- not always possible).

> >

> > But within these constraints - some people could be very good.

> >

> > Infact in my days at college there was a guy who used to solve open problesm

in mathemtaics( 70 years open involving comeplex geometries.. ) in a few

minutes.. His boss used to ask him to not tow ork.. he is currently in Belur

Math...(all this can be verified and validated..) ..

> >

> > BTW- he also studies and mastered jyotisha very quickly...

> > ( he used to solve 5 phd probelms while playing harmonium... it was a well

known fcat in the campus).

> >

> > There were many others....but. ..

> >

> > We limit our eveluation based on our expereinces. .yes..there are

masters...at the same time I agree that a lot of tall claims are also there...

> >

> > In any case it is a matter of perception.. .if is 6(six), 9( nine) or

sigma...or anything else...

> >

> > Take Care

> > Punkajj

> >

> > , " Pom " <pankajdhar@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tanvir Ji,

> > >

> > > Sorry to know about it.

> > >

> > > But on the lighetr side- " donot you think it is a dream fulfilled?? "

> > >

> > > May be inadvertently in the past lives...we astrologers. .- I am

kidding,generally slip away.....includes myself...( but you see atleast this

year would be too stressful part is correct , may be we can shift the honor

for some other time..but you wil get it..).

> > >

> > > Sorry, I could not do a VA anlysis for the same..but it would have been

tough .. in any case- let me or any one..let us..accept it..

> > >

> > > Actually filtering events might be i) very detailed ii) tough- as each

hsoue and plante has multiple significations. ..

> > >

> > > I have met a a very few BLACK BELTS..who can really isolate events to such

accuary..

> > >

> > > Get well soon.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Punkajj C Dhar

> > >

> > > , " Tanvir Chowdhury " <lord_rex@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I am posting the result because I don't think that anyone else would

try!

> > > >

> > > > The answer to the quiz is ï¿½ on the day I found out that I have got

water-carried jaundice (Hepatitis-E) .