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Dear Mr. sharma- all the assertions made by you are correct- some fully - some

to an extent in my opinion.

 

I am personally pained to learn about your plight and being honest- if you had

consulted me,had I not been in a very focussed state- I may not have been abale

to predict the same.

 

But problem lies here with me- not with the art and sceince of astrology and

the intent behind it.

 

 

I Just tried to to do a basic post mortem..bare bone..which any astrologer can

do...one canhit the nail only when one has exhaustive infromation about

transits...dashas ..use of alternate systems of prediction...of prediction- and

still reach 70-80 % accuracy.

 

But YES, PATTERN OF EVENTS can be predcited...That is the use of the sceince..

 

YOUR ASSERTIONS:

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>a) But recent incidence of my life made me to convince astrology is science of

hit and trial based upon.

 

Ans:

 

====>As I suggested in my earlier mail- it is FUZZY/probabilitic in nature like

quantum physics.

 

 

At times you are near 100% accurate at times 30%, unless one uses many systems

and has an intense concentration/intuition developed.

 

Astrologers hsould humbly accept this as a limitation and be sceintfic in their

outlook..in my humble opinion

 

can KARATE help you in all fight situations- but it still could be USEFUL as an

art? - the latter part is the key

 

 

b)There are so many practices, recent is KP what none of them is complete in

itself.

 

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YES- I agree.

 

But the same is true for modern sceince.

 

NEWTONIAN failed in QUANTUM PHYSICS.

 

 

c)Now days its only a business adopted by some to fool or confuse others. Every

one claims the

best knowledge one possess. "

 

Ans:

===>YES- I agree , it is generally true- it takes good confidence for

astrologers to accept their/our shortcomings.

 

but if astrology is done with right intent and skills, then it only helps.

 

SOME BARE BONE ANALYSIS(No claims of absoluteness are there)

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but still it might be useful...

 

FACTS AND ANALYSIS:

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i) You are running saturn- in 12th- do you see atelast some connection with

foreign travel..there might be many more...(also check the energies in navamsa

fro satrun)

 

Also Saturn connects to your professiona and expression and delays as well-

which is corroborated by what you said.

 

Also your Satrun is very young and weak in navamsa- so is not very happy at all.

radiates not so good energy.

 

satrun gets aspect of JUPITER(12th lord lsoses...) and JUPITER is clsoe of

MARS(lord of 8th...the things we lsoe)

 

ii)pratyantar in this time is MOON.

 

How friendly is MOON to satrun - is well known.

 

Now doing a FIRST PRINCIPLE ANALYSIS:

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a) I suspect( at this point I ma not sure) atleast mars/ketu infleunce on moon-

if it has to do the cutting job of fingers..etc...

 

Your mars aspects moon(7th) and also rules 8th hsoue(8th house ruler makes us

lose..things we love..aslo you knwo the nature of mars)

 

b) Still the case is not proved.

Some where the MALEFIC energy should go to III hsoue(hands)= rueld by mercury

 

i)Saturn aspects your mercury- the lord of 3rd sign and 3rd hsoue = Ruling your

HANDS

 

ii) Look at the chart carefully - your satrun gets energy of Jupiter(which gain

rules 12th hsoue).

 

iii)Also JUP is conjunct with SAT- so it takes traits of mars(ruling 8th hsoue)

 

iv)Moon already has the mars energy- the planet ruling 8th hsoue

 

v) transit- mars..is in Aq- so saturn and moon (dasha/AD and PD) all get the

malefci energy

 

vi)Also DOUBLE HARM to III house as III House = 3 rd sign in your case = YOUR

HANDS

 

 

 

CONCLUSION:

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i) Based on 8 fcactors- atleast we can conclude something to do with 3rd hsoue

would get severely affected- correct.

 

What expactly- needs to be worked out from other cross correlations and navmsa

chart- but astrology does hint towards an AGGRESIVE EVENT TOWARDS III HSOUE

 

 

ii) Actually more detaisl could be worked out but due to paucity of time I may

not be able to do so.

 

iii) Also as I said...I might have also missed ..this reading as getting into

finer details takes fair amount of time and concentration- whcih we all fault at

times...

 

But astrology still has a velue to offer may be.

 

Kindly do the remedies fro saturn especially.

 

My apologies if I have hurt you in the process of proving the case...to whatever

extent I could.

 

You have a right to be angry with astrologers- but not astrology- USE IT TO YOUR

BENEFIT constructively dear

 

satrun would trouble you- so do work on this with FOCUS...

 

WISH YOU A SPEEDY RECOVERY....

 

Regards

 

, narinder sharma <nksharmasoftastro

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> Respected All

> Though always believed astrology as my grand mother, grand fathers were well

known astrologer of their times. I too learned the same but did not adopt it as

profession.

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> But recent incidence of my life made me to convince astrology is science of

hit and trial based upon. There are so many practices, recent is KP what none of

them is complete in itself. Now days its only a business adopted by some to

fool or confuse others. Every one claims the best knowledge one possess.

Thousands of advocates, professors, accountants have adopted it as a side

business. Hundred of sites offers predictions. But as a matter of fact No one

in this world can predict the future. No one.

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> Let me be precise, My date of birth is 25 sept 1966 time 19.55 , place of

birth Una H.P, India, I am running saturn since apr. 2007. I immigrated to

canada on 25th december 2007. Since long i asked so many astoroger inculding JR,

to let me know either this dasha was good for me or not for my career. I got

always confusng double sided reply. No specfic answer. Any ways no one told even

hinted about the accident i recently met. Even i could not see any reason for

this. I challenge all the astrologers let alone any prediction just see how this

happened,. I met accident at work place. Three fingers of left hand crushed in

machine. This is not a small incident in which person looses the part of body. I

am going to be operated on 30 march in toronto to cut fingers off as badly

crushed- no blood supply to fingers. I was asking astologers to see the chance

of getting job in my IT field. But no one could even hint that this would

happen.

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> I CALLENGE ALL THE ASTROGERS OF ALL PRACTICES TO JUST JUSTIFY THIS

MIS-HAPPENING IN ASTROLOGY. BUT I KNOW NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

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> MY HOROSCOPE IS ACCURATE AND NO NEED TO SAY MAY BE THIS WRONGLY CALCULATED.

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> sorry for harsh words,

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> Narinder Sharma 5, Rowntree Road Etobicoke, Toronto

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> --- On Sun, 29/3/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

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> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

> Re: is jyotish really a science or a tool to make people fool

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> Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 12:09 AM

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dear sureshji

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> firstly i appreciate your positive faith in astrology without which you would

not have posted yet another query seeking guidance even after not hearing a

realistic prediction specific to your missing son from 150 odd astrologers.

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> however, since you used the word kidnapped, kindly advise what is he studying

and from where he was kidnapped and who saw him kidnapped. since we dont know

whether he is missed, left on his own, not traceable or kidnapped, kindly give

this much details as per your last available information and then we use

astrology as well as clairvoyance and guide you suitably.

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> but please bear in mind that we read and say something in this group freely

based on our limited knowledge and capacities and you are at liberty to trash it

if you find it wrong or appreciate it if you find it right, for it is not a paid

suggestion from accenture consulting or boston consulting group.

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> with best wishes and blessings

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> pandit arjun

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> www.rudraksharemedy .com

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> , " sureshkhandelwal "

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> > i am sorry to say, but it seems astrology is just an art for making people

fool . AS i have visited at least 150 astrologers and even given my problem at

various sites, but of no avail. My son Chirag was kidnapped on 17/8/2008,5. 10

pm and after that i have enquired many renowed astrologersbut of no avial.

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> > every other astrologers reaches at different conclusion by the same

janamkundli, if it is a science then every astrologers should reach at same

conclusion, like in mathematics 2+2 is always 4 whereever you go.

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> > I again gives details of my son:

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> > dob 23/8/1991

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> > tob 10.39 am

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> > can any astrolger tell with certainty that what has/will happen

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