Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 dear astrology 18 it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha it is a dosha remover not a dosha IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dear prashantji, I do not agree that Jupiter and Mars in same remove Kuja Dosha. we feel that it may reduce the effect of Mars Dosha, but Jupiter in 7th house is not good for mariatal bliss as per Brihad Parashar Hora Shatra and Brigu Samhita and Mars will give its 7th house effect, No one remove the Natal Promise as per Garghora. Grace !!! Astrology18 Group --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st " jyotish remedies " Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 1:25 PM dear astrology 18 it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha it is a dosha remover not a dosha IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dear Friend, What Shri Prashant ji has conveyed is perfectly in order.Kuja dosha need not be a kind of problem for ever just 'coz of the palcement of Kuja in some house2,4,7 and 10 and lagna.In navamsa also the position of kuja needs to be verified before making any conclusion. Manglik dosha arise out of placement/position of Mars in the chart.This has to be checked with reference to:lagna,moon,and venus If the age of the boy or girl is more than 30 effect of Kuja doasha is t relevent.Aspected jupiter in Guru mangal yoga dut to conjunction,juja dosha gets cancelled and nullified.It may lead to other problem like the house being 7th.may cause some health problems and some pervertions. vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Astrology18 Group <astrology18 wrote: Astrology18 Group <astrology18 Re: ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 10:04 AM Dear prashantji, I do not agree that Jupiter and Mars in same remove Kuja Dosha. we feel that it may reduce the effect of Mars Dosha, but Jupiter in 7th house is not good for mariatal bliss as per Brihad Parashar Hora Shatra and Brigu Samhita and Mars will give its 7th house effect, No one remove the Natal Promise as per Garghora. Grace !!! Astrology18 Group --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st " jyotish remedies " <> Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 1:25 PM dear astrology 18 it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha it is a dosha remover not a dosha IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Namsthe If I may post some more clariffication on this, " Kuja Dosha " has been one of greatest bane for Indian girls, aggravated by immature & amatuar astrologers and some times mis-used by common person also if they do not like the aliance. If there is a yoga, there might be yoga bhanga also. Understanding these bhagas & exceptions makes a true astrologer. Both Shree Prashant & Shree Krishna have tried to convey this. Horoscope matching is the most difficult and yet most responcible job of an astrologer. When you read a horoscope, it doesn't matter if you go wrong. But it is not the case when you analyse for matching (Kuja dosha is only for matching), astrologer is responcible for the welfare of those people. Hence be very carefull about these matters. Best leave it to more experience & elderly persons. Now comming to the said kuja dosha. In a male horoscope, if Mars is in the 7th & and in female horoscope, mars should be in 7th (Kalathra sthana ) or 8th (Mangalya sthana). papa samya (Equality of malefics): If there is malefics in the 7th of male, the female horoscope should have equal malefics in the 7th. But in the case of female horoscope having malefic in the 8th, it is enough to equal malefic in the 7th of the male horoscope. Here, the most important point is equality of the malefic - The word used is " Thathulya " - equal in all respect- Mars being agneya griha is only equal to Sun - another agneya griha. Saturn cannot cancel the power of mars being a vayu karaka (it might even flareup the issues). Here one may remember Aghora also : After Killing of Hiranyakashyap, Lord Narshima could not be calmed down and In order to calm Lord Narashima, Lord shiva assumed the form of Aghora - whose radiance & fearceness was equal to Lord Narashimha. " Ushnam Ushnena shantiH " . Exceptions to Mars : if Mars is in aries, cancer, scorpio & capricorn. Aries & Scorpio being it own house, Capricorn being its exhalatation sign & Mars do not have much power to destroy in cancer being a watery sign. Kuja- That was born from earth - Angaraka - Hot & burning charcoal. What happens when hot charcoal is put in water?. It looses its heat. so how can it destroy?. More over debilation & combustion of mars is not considered very destructive. My own wife has Mars in the 8th (capricorn) & sun in the 7th (Sagittarius) & we have been happily married for 17 years now. I married her with full knowledge of its implications. General convention: If there is malefic in the 8th house of a female, death of the husband will occur after the naisirgika years indicated by the navamsa lord of the 8th house after marriage. Naisargika years of planets: Moon : 1; Mars : 2; Mercury : 9; Venus : 20; jupiter : 18; Sun : 20; Saturn : 50. Navamsa Lord of mars in my wife's horoscope is mercury. So, I should have died a long time back?. Again various other factors should be considered before declaring the ultimate, Like the dasa at that time (consider all the aspects related to dasa lord ), actual state of the planet in the 8th ( kroora/ pasha / nigala drekana), Kroora / saumya shatiamsa , Shrishti / sthiti / samhara nakshtra , trimsamsha, benefics aspects / varga etc. This is a very long adhyaya, hence I may stop here. I hope this is helpfull A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > dear astrology 18 > > it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha > > it is a dosha remover not a dosha > > IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK > > similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people > > pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well > > normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard > > prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Dear Suresh Babu a good reply, I wish such scare mongering stops esp in a open forum this can mislead many for no reason, even combinations for a delayed or troubled marriage will get clouded over such a remark as its imprint lasts in their lives over all post is v good please fill in the database in the group YELLOW PAGES abour urself. ur services yoo prashant ________________________________ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:39:57 AM Re: ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st Namsthe If I may post some more clariffication on this, " Kuja Dosha " has been one of greatest bane for Indian girls, aggravated by immature & amatuar astrologers and some times mis-used by common person also if they do not like the aliance. If there is a yoga, there might be yoga bhanga also. Understanding these bhagas & exceptions makes a true astrologer. Both Shree Prashant & Shree Krishna have tried to convey this. Horoscope matching is the most difficult and yet most responcible job of an astrologer. When you read a horoscope, it doesn't matter if you go wrong. But it is not the case when you analyse for matching (Kuja dosha is only for matching), astrologer is responcible for the welfare of those people. Hence be very carefull about these matters. Best leave it to more experience & elderly persons. Now comming to the said kuja dosha. In a male horoscope, if Mars is in the 7th & and in female horoscope, mars should be in 7th (Kalathra sthana ) or 8th (Mangalya sthana). papa samya (Equality of malefics): If there is malefics in the 7th of male, the female horoscope should have equal malefics in the 7th. But in the case of female horoscope having malefic in the 8th, it is enough to equal malefic in the 7th of the male horoscope. Here, the most important point is equality of the malefic - The word used is " Thathulya " - equal in all respect- Mars being agneya griha is only equal to Sun - another agneya griha. Saturn cannot cancel the power of mars being a vayu karaka (it might even flareup the issues). Here one may remember Aghora also : After Killing of Hiranyakashyap, Lord Narshima could not be calmed down and In order to calm Lord Narashima, Lord shiva assumed the form of Aghora - whose radiance & fearceness was equal to Lord Narashimha. " Ushnam Ushnena shantiH " . Exceptions to Mars : if Mars is in aries, cancer, scorpio & capricorn. Aries & Scorpio being it own house, Capricorn being its exhalatation sign & Mars do not have much power to destroy in cancer being a watery sign. Kuja- That was born from earth - Angaraka - Hot & burning charcoal. What happens when hot charcoal is put in water?. It looses its heat. so how can it destroy?. More over debilation & combustion of mars is not considered very destructive. My own wife has Mars in the 8th (capricorn) & sun in the 7th (Sagittarius) & we have been happily married for 17 years now. I married her with full knowledge of its implications. General convention: If there is malefic in the 8th house of a female, death of the husband will occur after the naisirgika years indicated by the navamsa lord of the 8th house after marriage. Naisargika years of planets: Moon : 1; Mars : 2; Mercury : 9; Venus : 20; jupiter : 18; Sun : 20; Saturn : 50. Navamsa Lord of mars in my wife's horoscope is mercury. So, I should have died a long time back?. Again various other factors should be considered before declaring the ultimate, Like the dasa at that time (consider all the aspects related to dasa lord ), actual state of the planet in the 8th ( kroora/ pasha / nigala drekana), Kroora / saumya shatiamsa , Shrishti / sthiti / samhara nakshtra , trimsamsha, benefics aspects / varga etc. This is a very long adhyaya, hence I may stop here. I hope this is helpfull A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > dear astrology 18 > > it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha > > it is a dosha remover not a dosha > > IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK > > similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people > > pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well > > normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard > > prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Dear friends, There are following exceptions for Mangal Dosha. 1. If Mars is in 2nd house in any of the signs of Mercury, i.e., Gemini or Virgo. 2. If Mars is in 4th house in own sign, i.e., Aries or Scorpio. 3. If Mars is in 7th house in exaltation or debilitation, i.e., Capricorn or Cancer. 4. If Mars is in 8th house in any of the signs of Jupiter, i.e., Sagittarius or Pisces. 5. If Mars is in 12th house in any of the signs of Venus, i.e., Taurus or Libra. 6. If Mars is in any house in Aquarius or Leo. 7. For Cancer and Leo ascendants, Mars is a yoga karaka and so no dosha wherever it is placed. 8. For Aquarius ascendant, if Mars is in the 4th or 8th house. 9. If benefic Jupiter or Venus occupies the ascendant. 10. If Mars is in conjunction or aspected by Jupiter or Moon. 11. If Mars is in conjunction or aspected by Sun, Mercury, Saturn or Rahu. there are other exceptions also, but we want to say that any planet will give the result of occupying house and sign. Here, we can say, Jupiter and Mars is same sign reduce Mars Dosha, but we can not say Mars will not placed in 7th house, Mars will give result of 7th house, because of it is natal promise. Hope now its very clear. Grace !!! Astrology18 Group --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: Re: ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 5:21 AM Dear Suresh Babu a good reply, I wish such scare mongering stops esp in a open forum this can mislead many for no reason, even combinations for a delayed or troubled marriage will get clouded over such a remark as its imprint lasts in their lives over all post is v good please fill in the database in the group YELLOW PAGES abour urself. ur services yoo prashant ____________ _________ _________ __ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag@ > Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:39:57 AM Re: ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st Namsthe If I may post some more clariffication on this, " Kuja Dosha " has been one of greatest bane for Indian girls, aggravated by immature & amatuar astrologers and some times mis-used by common person also if they do not like the aliance. If there is a yoga, there might be yoga bhanga also. Understanding these bhagas & exceptions makes a true astrologer. Both Shree Prashant & Shree Krishna have tried to convey this. Horoscope matching is the most difficult and yet most responcible job of an astrologer. When you read a horoscope, it doesn't matter if you go wrong. But it is not the case when you analyse for matching (Kuja dosha is only for matching), astrologer is responcible for the welfare of those people. Hence be very carefull about these matters. Best leave it to more experience & elderly persons. Now comming to the said kuja dosha. In a male horoscope, if Mars is in the 7th & and in female horoscope, mars should be in 7th (Kalathra sthana ) or 8th (Mangalya sthana). papa samya (Equality of malefics): If there is malefics in the 7th of male, the female horoscope should have equal malefics in the 7th. But in the case of female horoscope having malefic in the 8th, it is enough to equal malefic in the 7th of the male horoscope. Here, the most important point is equality of the malefic - The word used is " Thathulya " - equal in all respect- Mars being agneya griha is only equal to Sun - another agneya griha. Saturn cannot cancel the power of mars being a vayu karaka (it might even flareup the issues). Here one may remember Aghora also : After Killing of Hiranyakashyap, Lord Narshima could not be calmed down and In order to calm Lord Narashima, Lord shiva assumed the form of Aghora - whose radiance & fearceness was equal to Lord Narashimha. " Ushnam Ushnena shantiH " . Exceptions to Mars : if Mars is in aries, cancer, scorpio & capricorn. Aries & Scorpio being it own house, Capricorn being its exhalatation sign & Mars do not have much power to destroy in cancer being a watery sign. Kuja- That was born from earth - Angaraka - Hot & burning charcoal. What happens when hot charcoal is put in water?. It looses its heat. so how can it destroy?. More over debilation & combustion of mars is not considered very destructive. My own wife has Mars in the 8th (capricorn) & sun in the 7th (Sagittarius) & we have been happily married for 17 years now. I married her with full knowledge of its implications. General convention: If there is malefic in the 8th house of a female, death of the husband will occur after the naisirgika years indicated by the navamsa lord of the 8th house after marriage. Naisargika years of planets: Moon : 1; Mars : 2; Mercury : 9; Venus : 20; jupiter : 18; Sun : 20; Saturn : 50. Navamsa Lord of mars in my wife's horoscope is mercury. So, I should have died a long time back?. Again various other factors should be considered before declaring the ultimate, Like the dasa at that time (consider all the aspects related to dasa lord ), actual state of the planet in the 8th ( kroora/ pasha / nigala drekana), Kroora / saumya shatiamsa , Shrishti / sthiti / samhara nakshtra , trimsamsha, benefics aspects / varga etc. This is a very long adhyaya, hence I may stop here. I hope this is helpfull A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ...> wrote: > > dear astrology 18 > > it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha > > it is a dosha remover not a dosha > > IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK > > similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people > > pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well > > normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard > > prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Sir, An excellent contribution, with this article. Regards. A.V.Pathi, ________________________________ sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:09:57 PM Re: ASTROLOGY 18- manglik? repliees pl chk for exceptions 1st Namsthe If I may post some more clariffication on this, " Kuja Dosha " has been one of greatest bane for Indian girls, aggravated by immature & amatuar astrologers and some times mis-used by common person also if they do not like the aliance. If there is a yoga, there might be yoga bhanga also. Understanding these bhagas & exceptions makes a true astrologer. Both Shree Prashant & Shree Krishna have tried to convey this. Horoscope matching is the most difficult and yet most responcible job of an astrologer. When you read a horoscope, it doesn't matter if you go wrong. But it is not the case when you analyse for matching (Kuja dosha is only for matching), astrologer is responcible for the welfare of those people. Hence be very carefull about these matters. Best leave it to more experience & elderly persons. Now comming to the said kuja dosha. In a male horoscope, if Mars is in the 7th & and in female horoscope, mars should be in 7th (Kalathra sthana ) or 8th (Mangalya sthana). papa samya (Equality of malefics): If there is malefics in the 7th of male, the female horoscope should have equal malefics in the 7th. But in the case of female horoscope having malefic in the 8th, it is enough to equal malefic in the 7th of the male horoscope. Here, the most important point is equality of the malefic - The word used is " Thathulya " - equal in all respect- Mars being agneya griha is only equal to Sun - another agneya griha. Saturn cannot cancel the power of mars being a vayu karaka (it might even flareup the issues). Here one may remember Aghora also : After Killing of Hiranyakashyap, Lord Narshima could not be calmed down and In order to calm Lord Narashima, Lord shiva assumed the form of Aghora - whose radiance & fearceness was equal to Lord Narashimha. " Ushnam Ushnena shantiH " . Exceptions to Mars : if Mars is in aries, cancer, scorpio & capricorn. Aries & Scorpio being it own house, Capricorn being its exhalatation sign & Mars do not have much power to destroy in cancer being a watery sign. Kuja- That was born from earth - Angaraka - Hot & burning charcoal. What happens when hot charcoal is put in water?. It looses its heat. so how can it destroy?. More over debilation & combustion of mars is not considered very destructive. My own wife has Mars in the 8th (capricorn) & sun in the 7th (Sagittarius) & we have been happily married for 17 years now. I married her with full knowledge of its implications. General convention: If there is malefic in the 8th house of a female, death of the husband will occur after the naisirgika years indicated by the navamsa lord of the 8th house after marriage. Naisargika years of planets: Moon : 1; Mars : 2; Mercury : 9; Venus : 20; jupiter : 18; Sun : 20; Saturn : 50. Navamsa Lord of mars in my wife's horoscope is mercury. So, I should have died a long time back?. Again various other factors should be considered before declaring the ultimate, Like the dasa at that time (consider all the aspects related to dasa lord ), actual state of the planet in the 8th ( kroora/ pasha / nigala drekana), Kroora / saumya shatiamsa , Shrishti / sthiti / samhara nakshtra , trimsamsha, benefics aspects / varga etc. This is a very long adhyaya, hence I may stop here. I hope this is helpfull A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > dear astrology 18 > > it is strage u can give a reading like this guru+kuja [mangal together can cause manglik dosha > > it is a dosha remover not a dosha > > IF kUJA IS ASPECTED OR ASSOCIATED WITH GURU THERE IS NO KUJA DOSJA OR MANGLIK > > similalry if Mesha, Kataka, Simha, Vrischika Lagna, rasi born people > > pl quote the right combinations, exceptions, UPAYAS for them as well > > normally we dont enter into a reply given by any member except when it is absard > > prashant > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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