Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dhar, Though question is meant for mr.tripathy, I am posting my " inexperienced " comments. I am sure Mr.Triptathy will not mind it, & will certainly post his comments. //i) Why only Rasi, navamsa...why not only navamsa...?// An universal question is ...who came out first???The Chicken??or The Egg? We can never enjoy the fruits, until the trees bear them, for example the mangoes in Summer months..the trees will bear the raw mangoes, which will mature & get ripened in due course of time & then we get to enjoy the sweet fleshy mangoes. Similarly, the rashi is the basic foundation.navamsha is the fruit. However, few astrologers who possess excellent knowledge & extremely skilfull & can even predict future seeing the Navamsha only, which again can be bit mixed with the lagna of the birth rashi--an excellent term coined by late CS patel from Nadi texts which is " navamsha tulya rashi " . navamsha is actually the nakshatra placements of planets. //ii) I mean should the other divisional charts/finer energeis be accounted for?// Yes. Why not?Why not use microscope to find the platelets & heamoglobin percentage in the blood, instead of finding it mentally??? //iii)When you say role of sun, then is it solar yogas/// Sun is the soul. Or the vital part of the body---if it is weak..can it sustain the good & bad times??? Let me know your feedback!! Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com , " Pom " <pankajdhar wrote: > > Dear Mr. tripathy, > I very much believe in the vast factor that you take up while judging a YOGA. > > My basic question is > > i) Why only Rasi, navamsa...why not only navamsa...? > > ii) I mean should the other divisional charts/finer energeis be accounted for? > > iii)When you say role of sun, then is it solar yogas/ If yes, then I am fine with that..else I ahve my doubts on why should sun play a role..if it is not a party to it(Yes, cneter of universe etc is fine..I agree..but still donot feel it should play a role where > it(sun) is not there, infact the ascendant and thr personality of the individual .should play a role...there is reason for same? > > > Just curious queries.... > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Punkajj C dhar > > , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Simple planetary placement or combinations do not makes a good yoga. > > > > It must be supported by the following basic things at least; > > > > (1) strength of participating planets > > (2) strength of Rasi, navamsa and constellation lords of participating planets > > (3) strength of sun for initiation of good yogas > > (4)strength of moon for long temr sustence of these yogas > > > > Similarly for doshas or curses or blemsishes, > > > > (1)affliction should be within acceptable orb of influence (Indian traditional astrologer accept maximum orb of 10 degree, whereas modern indian/western astrologer accept it upto 5 degree for normally strong planet and maximum upto 10 degree orb of seriously weak planets) > > > > (2) The exact combinations prescribed for the dosha or curses must be fulfilled. Simple placement or association doesnot causes the blemishes, if not supported by rasi, navamsa and stellar dispositors and relevant chara and naisargika karaka also. > > > > (3) The rasi, navamsa and starlord of the afflicted houses must be weak or unable enough to protect, otherwise the dosha, curses or blemishes passes away like a whiff of air without causing any visible effect > > > > (4) In my humble opinion the astrologer must have sufficient basic knowledge so as to correctly analyse and see the intentions as well as abilities of the planets causing dosha, blemishes or curses. Without sufficient and proper knowledge of the important divisional charts such as navamsa and shashtyams chart basic interplanetary influences such as Argala, Ashtakvarga and Karaka Yoga(which planet is acting for whom and why ?) simply saying that it is a bad yoga/ dosha/ curses is only short-sightedness and is of no utility if we are unable to measure its magnitude at least to some acceptable level of usefulness and solution to the extant problems of life. > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy, > > 09811971190 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Dear Shri gaurav Ji, Even today justice Kapoor advocates navamsha tulaya.ofcourse he as our gret Guru taught and we do it always. Sun being King of the planeatry cabinet, his role in energising the planets is very essential for plants to act.so we have shifting roles assigned as Atmakarak,Amatya karak and son on so forth. You are also right when you ssaid why not we count pallets in haemoglobin .It is told once again that the modern medical science develop are not much away from the Astrology. we need patience,need ability and need perspectives to analyse.such Astrology.From classicals the emphsis certaainly goes into delving into divisional charts. Like in psychology,we need to devise to an approach should be eccletic and combining the variuos scholls of thoughts of Astrology. in a group we may have limitations.so we need to keep in mind.like one group takes up only parashara not anything else. some body in our group has been empahsising about yogas.No body denies planetary conjunctions.aspects and good and bad results there of . we have for every thing timing as a very importanr concept to seek results.we need to bear the role of gocahara too. But subjectivity comes only when a native in reality has different views.thinks of positive results from negative state of planets and the other way too.These puzzles are to be solved witout ourselves gettings into confrontation and controversies vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 3/23/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote: <gaurav.ghosh Query for Mr. tripathi?Re: Analysing Dosha , Curses and Yoga in a chart Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:01 PM ||Jai Ramakrishna| | Dear Mr.Dhar, Though question is meant for mr.tripathy, I am posting my " inexperienced " comments. I am sure Mr.Triptathy will not mind it, & will certainly post his comments. //i) Why only Rasi, navamsa...why not only navamsa...?/ / An universal question is ...who came out first???The Chicken??or The Egg? We can never enjoy the fruits, until the trees bear them, for example the mangoes in Summer months..the trees will bear the raw mangoes, which will mature & get ripened in due course of time & then we get to enjoy the sweet fleshy mangoes. Similarly, the rashi is the basic foundation.navamsha is the fruit. However, few astrologers who possess excellent knowledge & extremely skilfull & can even predict future seeing the Navamsha only, which again can be bit mixed with the lagna of the birth rashi--an excellent term coined by late CS patel from Nadi texts which is " navamsha tulya rashi " . navamsha is actually the nakshatra placements of planets. //ii) I mean should the other divisional charts/finer energeis be accounted for?// Yes. Why not?Why not use microscope to find the platelets & heamoglobin percentage in the blood, instead of finding it mentally??? //iii)When you say role of sun, then is it solar yogas/// Sun is the soul. Or the vital part of the body---if it is weak..can it sustain the good & bad times??? Let me know your feedback!! Thank you, . http://gauravastro. 150m.com , " Pom " <pankajdhar@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Mr. tripathy, > I very much believe in the vast factor that you take up while judging a YOGA. > > My basic question is > > i) Why only Rasi, navamsa...why not only navamsa...? > > ii) I mean should the other divisional charts/finer energeis be accounted for? > > iii)When you say role of sun, then is it solar yogas/ If yes, then I am fine with that..else I ahve my doubts on why should sun play a role..if it is not a party to it(Yes, cneter of universe etc is fine..I agree..but still donot feel it should play a role where > it(sun) is not there, infact the ascendant and thr personality of the individual .should play a role...there is reason for same? > > > Just curious queries.... > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Punkajj C dhar > > , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy " <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ > wrote: > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Simple planetary placement or combinations do not makes a good yoga. > > > > It must be supported by the following basic things at least; > > > > (1) strength of participating planets > > (2) strength of Rasi, navamsa and constellation lords of participating planets > > (3) strength of sun for initiation of good yogas > > (4)strength of moon for long temr sustence of these yogas > > > > Similarly for doshas or curses or blemsishes, > > > > (1)affliction should be within acceptable orb of influence (Indian traditional astrologer accept maximum orb of 10 degree, whereas modern indian/western astrologer accept it upto 5 degree for normally strong planet and maximum upto 10 degree orb of seriously weak planets) > > > > (2) The exact combinations prescribed for the dosha or curses must be fulfilled. Simple placement or association doesnot causes the blemishes, if not supported by rasi, navamsa and stellar dispositors and relevant chara and naisargika karaka also. > > > > (3) The rasi, navamsa and starlord of the afflicted houses must be weak or unable enough to protect, otherwise the dosha, curses or blemishes passes away like a whiff of air without causing any visible effect > > > > (4) In my humble opinion the astrologer must have sufficient basic knowledge so as to correctly analyse and see the intentions as well as abilities of the planets causing dosha, blemishes or curses. Without sufficient and proper knowledge of the important divisional charts such as navamsa and shashtyams chart basic interplanetary influences such as Argala, Ashtakvarga and Karaka Yoga(which planet is acting for whom and why ?) simply saying that it is a bad yoga/ dosha/ curses is only short-sightedness and is of no utility if we are unable to measure its magnitude at least to some acceptable level of usefulness and solution to the extant problems of life. > > > > With regards and best wishes, > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy, > > 09811971190 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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