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Dear harry Ji,

I very much agree with your analysis:

" should first do a research in convincing oneself on

the results of the doha/yog, before coming to any conclusion. "

 

The reason in my humble opinion is a hroscope has tons of

complex date encoded- though simplistically a vfew planets,signs...

 

 

So lot of information is derived by CROSS CORRELETAIONS...

 

And YOGA is an outcome of this cross correleation exercize...if we go deepere

into YOGAS- we see the cross correlations in work as a basis if the YOGA.

 

YES- I agree an awareness of YOGA helps us to subconsciously identify the same

more easily- hence be more effective..

All view points are well come.

 

Thanks.

Regards,

Punkajj C Dhar

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405 wrote:

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> Dear Pankaj

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> The astrologer who has disbelief on certain doshas/yogs will be the the better

person to clarify.

> If saturn has lordship of any dushtana bhavs & in natal chart if it is placed

in kendra, pls always bear in mind that every native gets 50% results of the

planet by its palcement in the natal chart & 50% by its palcement in

transits.. But lordship always dominates.

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> Disbelief on certain doshas/yogs in any natal chart does not makes an

astrologer complete in awarness & analysis of any natal chart. An astrologer

should always keep oneself abreast & aware of all the doshas & yogs, & if any

disbelief is their, the native should first do a research in convincing oneself

on the results of the doha/yog, before coming to any conclusion.

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> To give u my own example, I hv noticed every astrologer lays emphasis on

vargha system, & Â I hv tried to go by the results given by various vargha chart.

In my research experience, I hv observed that reults are not convincing. Hence

I never follow nor lay any emphasis on vargha chart systems. But in my disbelief

I have never contradicted or chastised any astrologer. I have always prefered to

be a silent.

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> Vedic astrology is a vedic science & placements of planets always give some

or other result on our body & in our lives. This is how one can conduct a

research on oneself in order to study the effect of planets on any native &

thus give a better quality analysis, rather than just laying emphasis on

certain systems.

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> Monday, 23 March, 2009 1:10:55 AM

> Query- for Harry Ji?Re: A Critical Position - need your Light of

Wisdom-

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> Dear Harry ji,

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> You wrote: " I hv always maintained that when sani has lordship of any dushthana

bhavs, during its MD/AD/Dahiyya/ saddi satti it always is taxing for Simha

native & in ur case it has rewarded u by making u jobless. "

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> In my humble opinion, this is very correct- and I ma not sure why any

astrologer should not belive in the same.

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> I am just putting my reasons of my thinking it so- may be oyu could please

comment.

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> i) satrun is a natural malefic

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> ii) satrun ruels a malefci hsoue

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> iii) If asc. is sun, it is malefci to the same..

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> Then natuarally all these factors added up it should harm/impact. ...

> (Th only saving is if lordship of satrun is of good hsoueses and it is in MT

or own sign...but I might be incorrect in my assertions.. )

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> Giving daan, avdoining sataunr energy...I trsut very much corroborates with

satndard tenets of VA- but may be I might be missing something...

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> Could you please let me know in which system of astrology they donto belive it

to be so?

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> Thanks for your kind inputs.

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> Regards,

> Punkajj C dhar

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> , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

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> > Dear Spiderman

> >

> > I lot has been written about ur chart & astrologers have given their views

but one thing what astrologers have not noticed due to their disbeliefs in the

dohas/yogs, u r undergoing sani's dahiyya.

> >

> > Ur jupiter maha dasha is going on & jupiter is also the karak for labh

sthan & also placed in labh sthan in ur natal chart. Jupiters MD should not hv

disturbed ur career but due to Sani's dahiyya, it has disturbed ur career.Saddi

satti, maha & antar dasha, sani's dahiyya in simha lagna's natives is always

taxing. It disturbs the network setting of all the planets & despite MD of ur

cream planet jupiter's currently on, it has not been able to give u a new job

after u loosing ur last job since apr 2007.

> >

> > Many astrologers disbeleif in certain dohas/yogs in any natives natal

chart deprieves the astrologer for valid & correct astro reason for ur job

loss. Ur sani dahhiya started in jan 2007 & in apr u lost ur job. I hv always

maintained that when sani has lordship of any dushthana bhavs, during its

MD/AD/Dahiyya/ saddi satti it always is taxing for Simha native & in ur case

it has rewarded u by making u jobless.

> >

> > Work on the following remedies for some releif.

> > Remedies for Sani's Dahiyya

> > ·        Chant this mantra everyday at least 4 to 5

rounds (1 round = 108) OHM SHAM SANESHCHARAYA NAMAH: on any chanting bead. If u

do not have any chanting bead chant by counting on your fingers.

> > ·        Fast on every Saturday

> > ·        Offer mustard oil to Sani Deity or light a

Deepak in mustard oil & keep it below any peeple tree every Saturday.

> > ·        Avoid all black clothes & black things like

shoes, wallets, belts, cap/hat

> > ·        Do not eat meat or have liquor on every Saturday

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> > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI VEDIC ASTROLOGERÂ CELL +919867214103

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

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> > spider man <man30_delhi@ ...>

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> > Sunday, 22 March, 2009 12:45:23 PM

> > Re: A Critical Position - need your Light of Wisdom- Vattem

krishnan

> >

> >

> > thanks a lot sir, to make me understand, sir one more thing (you might be

bored with my questions - but i hope you will not) if job are not favourable

then what else i can try for my survive, as i am good in trainings specialy in

self development programs, else i dont have idea, may any substitute of job, if

job is not fit for me kindly advice me what are things which i can do and get

support from planets..

> >

> > sir as i bilief none of plane give 100% nigative it may be Rahu or ketu,

what should i do to take positive from their negative effects.

> >

> > kindly advice.

> > @ .. com, vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

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> > > Dear Mr Deepak,

> > > Infact your questions are understandable and in no way different from my

own trials and tribulations in life

> > > Belonging to sagittarus ascendant and moon in capricorn with jupiter in

10th from moon I feel that these were very much relevant at one time.9In my own

chart)

> > > But now passing through saturn dasa i achieved something that satisfied

and something else i could not?But then that is what I understood as destiny and

keep myself throwing stones and seek satisfaction " yes I tried and could

get " Colleagues( professors) sympathised that though late........ ..you could " .

> > > with reference to the following,my belief as per planetary positions,

answers are given below:

> > > 1. the education of my kids that is on career making stage - what

should i do.:Jupiter aspect on 5th certainly make them well educated and

employed

> > > 2. " as  i want to do any thing something

happenned " ,These things that come out of exalted rahu and  ketu,

continue to remain as mysteries and sudden.

> > > In every chart4/10 axis assumes great significance .In your

chart,the suspense rahu projects as the nakshtra of krittika belonging to sun

guides is difficult to unfold the behaviour of rahu.Intention of your

peers(bosses) was never to your favour and as a result career is

suffering.ÂÂ

> > > Now for a moment I consider 10th from moon governed by venus in uccha and

with saturn no doubt proves better in dasa of saturn,that might be too late.But

in jupiter dasa once jupiter moves to Aquarius,the delayed things now fall in

order and set right things,Expected from April end the improvements including

getting job will materialise.

> > > 3. will you belief till this age i am not able to make the

house, what should i do. :

> > > Dear friend,Iam very pessimistic on this issue as planetary configurations

may further delay your wish to make a house.

> > > Incase you want this as a priority in your life one of your

siblings support is necessary..Around 2011 probably can bring some hopes

in this direction.

> > > Any way you said you beleieve in remedies and keep doing these

things as it may help to cut down delays and prevent denials in life

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, spider man <man30_delhi@ ...> wrote:

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> > > spider man <man30_delhi@ ...>

> > > Re: A Critical Position - need your Light of Wisdom- Vattem

krishnan

> > >

> > > Saturday, March 21, 2009, 12:33 PM

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> > > shree vattem krishnan ji,

> > > with due respect i want to say that - if you see from April 2007 to Aprox

dec 2008 Jupitor was in transit of 11th from my Rashi, it should be benific, and

even it come in Dhanu Rashi (dec 2008)Dhanu rashi is in my 5th house , then why

this transit effect not come as benific. and as Jup and Sun both are friends

Tatkalik and natural and sitting in good places, then lagna lord should give

good results, as says in BHPS that the lord of 5th sit any where it gives good

result, but it not happen, and more of that i am thinking:

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> > > that even a rikshapullar or a worker is able to earn money may be less in

a day to feed self or feed the family - why my planets kept me far from any

single paisa income - it means my planets are worst then a common person,

whatever happiness i have seen , seen only few days, as in my all jobs i faced

Gap periods. whenever i want to do any thing something happenned, will you

belief till this age i am not able to make the house, and now top of that the

big problem infront of me the education of my kids that is on career making

stage - what should i do. as remeady i did almost all things, if god has to do

something he can do in last so many years, he want to do or not he knows, i do

worship, simply the best of my knowledge and love , that i do daily .

> > >

> > > now the main question is - when i will get the job?

> > >

> > > few more :- Jup>Moon is not going good , so i think as Jup>Mars will also

not go good becoz Mars is fully combust.

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> > > and after that again a long period of Jup>rahu it is also kept me in hell.

> > >

> > > and thenafter SAT mahadasha will start so Sat also the lord of 6 and 8 and

not having good relation with lagna lord - so my all life will be in hell only.

> > >

> > > advice me is this not going to happen?

> > >

> > > kind regards

> > > deepak

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

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> > > > Dear Deepak,

> > > > we have to understand the planets and consideratios in toto to find what

good and bad they deliver?

> > > > Considering Atmakarak as sun and in exaltation(? ) in own nakshtra and

with no benific aspect during dasa period as lord of 5th and 8th difficulties/

problems/ tensionsÃÆ'‚ÂÂ might be experienced. That does not

mean,these issues would forever be haunting without any solution.

> > > > In your own period of 2005-07 was best as the jupiter in transit was

giving results relating to

> > > > own house 5th as well as the house of comforts(4th) ..with jupiter

transit to capricorn your rasi sign problems have cropped up and till jpiter

moves to Aquarius by Dec2009,you have to deal the present situation.

> > > > In case you beleive in some form of remedies to build up confidence

following alternatives can be tried and builds self confidence.

> > > > All of us certainly have ups and down and we have to face both with some

determination and hope.

> > > > vrkrishnan:

> > > > wear emerald to ring finguer or some kind of remedy by worship of surya

orDattatreya visiting nearest temple of hanumanji .

> > > > All these remedies or any one gives hope for betterment

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, spider man <man30_delhi@ ...> wrote:

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> > > > spider man <man30_delhi@ ...>

> > > > Re: A Critical Position - need your Light of Wisdom-Rohini

JI

> > > >

> > > > Saturday, March 21, 2009, 9:17 AM

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> > > > Rohini sir, there are very few people who understand astrology, i

respect you, you are not only astrologer even elder to me, who will give me

right advice, which i am looking for, i do not know sir, it virgo or leo, but as

per my old hand made horscope it is leo, i have given all details, please see it

matches with my horo or not, i am open to give any answer if you want to ask

" any " question (i mean any) in procedure of helping me,

> > > >

> > > > sir, pls see Jup > Sun (even placed 11th from Jup and lord of lagna also

not able to give me any good results)

> > > >

> > > > one more considerable thing - this job From 1st July 2005 to 2April

2007, was best in all terms in my entire career, (from 1990 to 2005)

> > > >

> > > > is the last golden period of life? it seems now a days, i do not know

dawn is more dark or dusk is more dark - and what period is going on - why my

all stars sleeping. what is hidden in my stars.

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> > > > your's

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> > > > ds

> > > >

> > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Deepak,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sorry to hear about your plight which is ongoing and now further

complicated by a variety of opinions from different astrologers. This is sadly a

problem often associated with internet forum readings but really should be

called a problem with modern jyotish because it is not standardised, obviously.

> > > > >

> > > > > That said, please allow me to add my two cents to this and hopefully,

I am not adding to your confusion etc. I am saddened to hear that you have been

advised to wear all those expensive gemstones and are probably in financial

hardship due to those purchases.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since your original kundali (I presume) indicates an ishta of 20:46,

depending on what sort of suryodaya was being utilized by the jyotishi who

calculated that ishta, the birth time is between 13:50 and 13:51 clock time. I

get a lagna of 4:21:56. There are three conventions used for suryodaya, upper

limbus, center of sun and full disk having risen.. Regardless of that, unless

the original suryodaya utilized was completely out of whack, and unless some

extreme value of ayanamsha is used, you should be a simha lagna rising.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your atmakaraka is sun, exalted and placed in the 9th house with mars

the lord of 9 and mercury the lord of 2nd and 11th, whereas your venus (lord of

3 and 10) is exalted, strong otherwise and placed in the 8th with saturn (lord

of 6 and 7). It is perplexing to note that your actual experience is indicating

the very opposite! Loss and inability to find a job and earn a living.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are some very kind and knowledgeable astrologers here. Perhaps

your chart should be taken up as a public discussion and examination of jyotish.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you and others think? And hopefully, I am using plain and

simple english this time ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

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> > > > >

> > > > > , " spider man " <man30_delhi@

> wrote:

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> > > > > > Dear Sir/s,

> > > > > > I am in critical positions, i do not know i am able to explain it ,

in right words or not, but i am trying one more time, i have worked with one of

the good textile company as VP HR, from July 2005 to 2nd April 2007.

> > > > > > From 2nd April 2007 to till date no job......... .

> > > > > > I got 2 offers from very good companies, but due to unknown reasons

companies postponed the positions, till now those companies not recruiting as i

confirmed through my sources.

> > > > > > My DOB is 11 May 1966, TOB is 13: 46, (20:46 ghati

ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " pal) POB ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " Sambhal (U.P

ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " India)ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " from here problem

started ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " as i discussed with few very good astrologers

of this forum also (from April 2007 I am doing this in various forums) few of

them gave me few dates for getting the job with remedies, all dates passed

ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " nothing happened, still waiting, few suggested me to

wear ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " Pukhraj ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " RUBY

ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " Emrald ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " Coral

ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " I did that also.

> > > > > > Now few of them made me confused they told ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ "

you cannot be born in Leo Lagna (as per 13:46 pm ) you must be born in Virgo

Lagna (might be as per 14:45 onwards is Virgo ) ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " i say

ok, now pls do the prediction based on Virgo ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " but that

is also failed.

> > > > > > Now the question is - what should I do for survive of family? I am

trying as training Consultant for school Students, but there also i am not

getting any business, I am living in a rental house, i don't have any paternal

home , also do not have any support from any corner, all doors are already

closed, my children are doing study, their future is also dark, now I do not

have money to survive ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " what should I do ? When I will

get the job, or in better way I should ask when I will get Income for feeding my

family..

> > > > > > I do not know who will understand my PAIN, i am suffering from, few

major Events are as follow.

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> > > > > > 1. Father expired ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " July 1999

> > > > > > 2. Married on 2nd Dec - 1989

> > > > > > 3. Daughter born ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " Nov 1991

> > > > > > 4. Son Born ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " Oct 1999

> > > > > > 5. One car accident 3 July 2003ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " ( I was not

injured ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " someone was on bike, who hit my car on left

side and die. still case in court)

> > > > > > 6. Frequent Job Loss from 1990 till now ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ " but

this is biggest gap period .. (from april 2007 to till date)

> > > > > > Hope someone help me by his wisdom

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> > > > > > kind regards to all

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