Ans & query for RR ?ART & SCIENCE of Astrology- Well Said !!!KP, Systems A

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To you I sincerely and humbly offer:

 

http://www.boloji.com/astro/00303.htm

 

RR

 

, " Pom " <pankajdhar wrote:

>

> Dear Sri RR Ji,

> I trust it is already defined in the long .... text given by

me.

>

> a) Following and rediscovering the classics

>

> b) Developing one's own approach...- you will find this subjectivity in all

complex systems...be it GOD , economics..to an extent..

>

> The idea haere is to do a) and b) with more focus on sadhana/depth of thought

and also analysis(The latter helps to break probelms and hence..do deep

thinking- divide and conquer concept..)

>

> (The heart of the matter in my humble opinion is that these are inspired

sceinces- the deeper we connect to slef or GOD, the more purity we bring in the

astrology- hence pure astrology)

>

> BTW a question for you RR- was i able to communicate core idea

> behind the writing?

>

> I mean Please define it as per your understanding?(This is a question to you

RR)

>

> Kindly do let me know.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Regards,

> punkajj

>

> , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pankaj ji,

> >

> > Thanks for your valuable comments. I am curious about your statement

regarding PURE ASTROLOGY. Please define it as per your understanding.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , " Pom " <pankajdhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr. Tripathy Ji,

> > > I trust in my humble opinion you have made a valid

point by saying.

> > >

> > > " Similarly to make it still simpler the System's Approach has limited the

scope and analysis to Rasi and navamsa dispositors only. "

> > >

> > > Actually ASTROLOGY just like KARATE OR CAR DRIVING is a SCIENCE and an ART

as well .

> > >

> > > I have more reasons to stick on to the ancient classics than in favor

of other approaches, though they also deliver a value:

> > >

> > > a)The classics were written by inspired people sage sri parashara....sage

sri jaimini..they had condesned all their expereinecs in sloka forms as we all

know...

> > >

> > > These sages were from Higher YUGAS, we are currently in Kalyug- so we

expect less people of such caliber to be born..

> > >

> > > So intellectually/intuitively...these sages have rare match

> > >

> > > b)

> > > The tall claims of systematizing astrology might be true to a very small

extent- but mostly it is a marketing gimmick in some cases..- which essentailly

does not teach astrology.....

> > >

> > > c) systematization of even parts of astrology needs extensive knowldge of

formal methods(mathematics) as we know to prove a theory, one can verify the

credentials of such people who claim to have propounded such " systems "

> > >

> > > d)As astrology is an ART as well-Just like in KARATE..or CAR DRIVING...

> > >

> > > Let the basics be there in form of CLASSICS- but let the individual

develop HIS OWN APPROACH..

> > >

> > > That is the beauty of nay art...

> > >

> > > e) " systematizing " astrology without awareness of the weaknesses of this

" systematization " process - might in effect make astrollogy lose a lot of REAL

CONTENT/VALUE...

> > >

> > > As astrology is fairly complex even for a well trained sceintist to

formalize..what to talk about...such specialists..

> > >

> > > Astrology in my humble opinion can only be RE-DISCOVERED...LET the

CLASSICS be the reference... and we find out why did we fail.

> > >

> > > As we know Lots of Ramanujan's theorems are still not provable by modern

mathematcians...similarly our ancient rishis are even more inspired..so how can

we..systematize them..that also in many cases without basic knowldge of maths..

> > >

> > > SUGAR is not same as GUR(JAGGERY) ...so are CLASSICS not same as these

so called " system's " expert...( I have not gone deep into KP system, so no

commnets on the same- but at the bare essentials- it does not talk much differet

from BPHS..barring the western astrology part)

> > >

> > > For the sake of PURE ASTROLOGY.....my humle opinions have been put

froward fro your kind perusal..

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Punkajj C Dhar...

> > >

> > > pankajdhar@

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Krishnan Ji and RR Ji,

> > >

> > > Happy to see good points discussed.

> > >

> > > There is no harm if some astrologers take up some branches of the

mainstream jyotish ( as found in Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra) and try to

develop clear cut approach to analysis and prections.

> > >

> > > To keep the principle simple and clear KP is based on stelalr

dispositorship only. Signs have less importance in it.

> > >

> > > Similarly to make it still simpler the System's Approach has limited the

scope and analysis to Rasi and navamsa dispositors only.

> > >

> > > So when the basic tools used are choosenly limited by the users of both

the systems, definitely.. ..the predictive utility and output has got into it

the inherent built in limitations also.

> > >

> > > There are certain situations when the strongest of planetary /stellar

dispositors fail to deliver for their starlords and sub-lords owing to basic

weaknesses of planets.

> > >

> > > Simialry there are certain situations when the planets modify their

natures/results based on their own disposition that they work more ardously for

their non-mool trikona houses than the mool-trikona houses.

> > >

> > > Secondly all the placements in 6th, 8th, and 12th are not bad as

propounded by System's Approach.

> > >

> > > Ashtakvarga, Argala , Rasi and Graha Drishti along with the concept of

Raja Yoga/ Karaka Yoga showing the inter-planetary cooperation, desires,

accessibility of material /tangible resources, talents and their proper

channelisations respectively are the important and key areas of predictive

astrology left aside by both KP and SA.

> > >

> > > A judicious mix of all the good concepts whatever we can grasp from BPHS

in their proper perspective is the best thing I have felt in my humble

experience.

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> >

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