Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

[Guest guest]

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

 

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in which the

charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same Data given

also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

>  

> I may have to answer this at length.

>  

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

>  

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’ the first

major astrological treatise.  But the most revered astrologer was Varahamihra

(AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the knowledge that

Parasara was notable to convey to public.  The Siddhantic calendar, minus the

implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued to be used as

India’s official calendar until A.D.1200.  That is the time Indiafell into

Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira calendar was introduced.

>  

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy.  Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

>  

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

>  

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival of

calculations.  Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to Lahari’s, as he

calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression, and the year of two

coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285.  It is relevant to account that, Mr Cyril Fagon,

who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western schoolof Astrology,

determined the starting year as 221.

>  

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used Ayanamsa’s

are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley   24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

>  

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

>  

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

>  

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

>  

> (Please Note:  Some of facts and figures as well as comments were assimilated

from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an American), a

practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time in Varanasi

as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit University, and

Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri.  She lectures extensively in Hindu Vedic Astrology

groups including United Astrology Group in Canada, Germany, Holland, U.K.and

U.S.A.)

>  

> Pathi. (20/3/2009) 

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+01522+595996

>  

>

>  

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel

Hill,                                    

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960-3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaimer

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the life

of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything.  I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum.  While I send informative articles

to many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to

know' on the 'subject' to expand there interest.  I am not running an

educational institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner.  I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/

2009)

>  

> I may have to answer this at length.

>  

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

>  

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise.  But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public.  The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200.  That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

>  

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy.  Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

>  

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

>  

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations.  Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285.  It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

>  

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley   24°42’

>

Lahari                23°49â\

€™

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

>  

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

>  

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

>  

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

>  

> (Please Note:  Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri.  She lectures extensively in

Hindu Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada,

Germany, Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

>  

> Pathi. (20/3/2009) 

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

>  

>

>  

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel

Hill,                  ÂÂ\

 Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear A V Pathi ji,

 

I understood the signification of chandra+rahu in Makara conjoined can make a

issue or two can drag many into emitional.ego conflicts so i choose to use role

of GURU a reason/logic/advisor/spiritual or inner vision and comme up with some

mid way approach

 

from here there r 2 points I must make

 

1st is WHICH ARTICLE OF URS DID I DELETE, SO FAR WHATEVER CAME FROM ANYONE I

HAVE PASED IT AS LONG AS IT HAD SOME ASTRO CONTENT Even if u remember the much

hated Lalit Misras also whom many felt was not an astrologer

 

urs why will I delete if any let me know and also

ASK u to resubmit it IF IT IS LOST IN any web bugs keeps reminding us of

 

if u see some mails of members do go to spam folder accidently and most affected

has been sri vattem krishna ji WHENVER IT HAPPED I HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO SAY

SO to the group

 

though no explaination is understood otherwise as 4/5 mails of his come in

normally 5th goes to spam is a bug

 

moderator central has been updating us of them

 

2nd point is if I allow ur current msg it will trigger a much avoidable volly of

mails both sides diverting members of astro content

 

as said i admire both of ur astrological experience and wisdom and let the group

benefit from it as well if u r not happy with RRji's msgs/ coments pl ignore

them as he often says too

 

but u can expand on ur initial postings can help many of us learn from ur

experience i mus t say

 

I hope tempers cool down and we start the sharing experience in right earnest

 

pl rephrase ur mail just sent can help all of us

 

rest is up to u

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

 

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles

to many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to

know' on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an

educational institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> Â

> I may have to answer this at length.

> Â

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> Â

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200. That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

> Â

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> Â

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> Â

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> Â

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

> Â

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> Â

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

> Â

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

> Â

> (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in

Hindu Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada,

Germany, Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

> Â

> Pathi. (20/3/2009)Â

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> Â

>

> Â

> Â

> A.V.Pathi, Â

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,              Â

                    Â

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Prasanth ji,

Thank you. Honestly saying, you never deleted my messages.  I never said that,

you did.

 

I am not in mood to answer any further on this. I will not - in simple language

- tolerate nonsense from any quarters.  At my age 79, I need not keep quiet

with these silly elements butting their dirty smelling nose, without any

reason., - certainly not towards me.  If I had not earned good name till this

age, it is not worth trying to earn one, anymore, while taking these to

slaughter houses.

 

Kindly drop curtain and firmly tie it, as I beg of you not to discuss further,

on this.

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:28:41 AM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

 

Dear A V Pathi ji,

 

I understood the signification of chandra+rahu in Makara conjoined can make a

issue or two can drag many into emitional.ego conflicts so i choose to use role

of GURU a reason/logic/ advisor/spiritua l or inner vision and comme up with

some mid way approach

 

from here there r 2 points I must make

 

1st is WHICH ARTICLE OF URS DID I DELETE, SO FAR WHATEVER CAME FROM ANYONE I

HAVE PASED IT AS LONG AS IT HAD SOME ASTRO CONTENT Even if u remember the much

hated Lalit Misras also whom many felt was not an astrologer

 

urs why will I delete if any let me know and also

ASK u to resubmit it IF IT IS LOST IN any web bugs keeps reminding us of

 

if u see some mails of members do go to spam folder accidently and most affected

has been sri vattem krishna ji WHENVER IT HAPPED I HAVE MADE IT A POINT TO SAY

SO to the group

 

though no explaination is understood otherwise as 4/5 mails of his come in

normally 5th goes to spam is a bug

 

moderator central has been updating us of them

 

2nd point is if I allow ur current msg it will trigger a much avoidable volly of

mails both sides diverting members of astro content

 

as said i admire both of ur astrological experience and wisdom and let the group

benefit from it as well if u r not happy with RRji's msgs/ coments pl ignore

them as he often says too

 

but u can expand on ur initial postings can help many of us learn from ur

experience i mus t say

 

I hope tempers cool down and we start the sharing experience in right earnest

 

pl rephrase ur mail just sent can help all of us

 

rest is up to u

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:26:59 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

 

I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything. I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum. While I send informative articles to

many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to know'

on the 'subject' to expand there interest. I am not running an educational

institution through your 'dominated' forum.

 

I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

 

With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner. I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

Blessings.

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

 

I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

 

Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> Â

> I may have to answer this at length.

> Â

> Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> Â

> This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523) and

Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora Sastra’

the first major astrological treatise. But the most revered astrologer was

Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and transmitter of the

knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. The Siddhantic

calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the equinoxes, continued

to be used as India’s official calendar until A.D.1200. That is the

time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira

calendar was introduced.

> Â

> Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy. Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> Â

> The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> Â

> Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations. Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285. It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> Â

> To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> Fagon-Bradley  24°42’

> Lahari                23°49’

> Krishnamurthi   23°43

> B.V.Raman       22°22’

> Â

> The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> Â

> This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading to

wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of Astrologer,

could be at stake.

> Â

> I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as almost

correct for correct interpretations.

> Â

> (Please Note:Â Some of facts and figures as well as comments were assimilated

from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an American), a

practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time in Varanasi

as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit University, and

Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri. She lectures extensively in Hindu Vedic Astrology

groups including United Astrology Group in Canada, Germany, Holland, U.K.and

U.S.A.)

> Â

> Pathi. (20/3/2009)Â

> My new address from 5/April/2009

> A.V.Pathi,

> care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> " Oxton " House,

> 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> Lincoln, UK

> Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> Â

>

> Â

> Â

> A.V.Pathi, Â

> 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,              Â

                    Â

> North Carolina, 27514, USA

> 001-919-960- 3833

> Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You must be reading the wrong arudha for me Mr. Pathi :-)

In modern democratic times, the old-fashioned bosses and subordinates do not

exist any more (at least in the reality that I live in!) but some individuals

seem to be unable to shake those old images and sometimes project on others,

their reality. It is unwise for astrologers to adopt that kind of bias because

then they will see in the charts of their clients their own wishes and desires

and not the reality which applies to the nativity.

 

RR

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

>

> I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything.  I am least interested to

give my articles to your 'possessed' forum.  While I send informative articles

to many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only those who would like to

know' on the 'subject' to expand there interest.  I am not running an

educational institution through your 'dominated' forum.

>

> I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

>

> With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner.  I will watch your

shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

> Blessings.

>

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

> Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

>

> I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

>

> I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

>

> Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , venkatachala pathi <pathiav@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different ‘Ayanamsa’ in

which the charts are calculated. I notice the placements of Planets in the same

Data given also in different places in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/

2009)

> >  

> > I may have to answer this at length.

> >  

> > Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> >  

> > This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †" 523)

and Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora

Sastra’ the first major astrological treatise.  But the most revered

astrologer was Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of Parasara and

transmitter of the knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to public. 

The Siddhantic calendar, minus the implementation of the precession of the

equinoxes, continued to be used as India’s official calendar until

A.D.1200.  That is the time Indiafell into Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757

A.D., when Lunar Hijira calendar was introduced.

> >  

> > Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy.  Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> >  

> > The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0° Aries.

> >  

> > Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to correct arrival

of calculations.  Krishnamurthy’s Ayanamsa is also close to

Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27 seconds, being the rate of progression,

and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs as A.D.285.  It is relevant to account

that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western

schoolof Astrology, determined the starting year as 221.

> >  

> > To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> > Fagon-Bradley   24°42’

> >

Lahari                23°49â\

€™

> > Krishnamurthi   23°43

> > B.V.Raman       22°22’

> >  

> > The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> >  

> > This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading

to wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of

Astrologer, could be at stake.

> >  

> > I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I consider as

almost correct for correct interpretations.

> >  

> > (Please Note:  Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri.  She lectures extensively in

Hindu Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada,

Germany, Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

> >  

> > Pathi. (20/3/2009) 

> > My new address from 5/April/2009

> > A.V.Pathi,

> > care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> > " Oxton " House,

> > 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> > Lincoln, UK

> > Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> >  

> >

> >  

> >  

> > A.V.Pathi,  

> > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel

Hill,                  ÂÂ\

 Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 

> > North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > 001-919-960- 3833

> > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not recommend

remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or assurances of

any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of God he

can only try to give his best and hope that his efforts will improve the

life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

RR,

 

...... " It is unwise for astrologers to adopt that kind of bias because then they

will see in the charts of their clients their own wishes and desires and not the

reality which applies to the nativity " .

 

 

 

Do not teach me. This axim suits you most.

 

A.V.Pathi,  

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:06:34 PM

Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

 

 

You must be reading the wrong arudha for me Mr. Pathi :-)

In modern democratic times, the old-fashioned bosses and subordinates do not

exist any more (at least in the reality that I live in!) but some individuals

seem to be unable to shake those old images and sometimes project on others,

their reality. It is unwise for astrologers to adopt that kind of bias because

then they will see in the charts of their clients their own wishes and desires

and not the reality which applies to the nativity.

 

RR

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav >

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

>

> I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss and

you are sure to comment on anything and everything.  I am least

interested to give my articles to your 'possessed' forum.  While I send

informative articles to many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only

those who would like to know' on the 'subject' to expand there

interest.  I am not running an educational institution through your

'dominated' forum.

>

> I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

>

> With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner.  I will watch

your shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

> Blessings.

>

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

> Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

>

> I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some forum

where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us here on

Jyotish_remedies forum!

>

> I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us " great

unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough astrological

details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings SERIOUSLY

can respond astrologically!

>

> Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , venkatachala pathi <pathiav@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares, in

Chennai. In each one of them there are different

‘Ayanamsa’ in which the charts are calculated. I

notice the placements of Planets in the same Data given also in different places

in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> >  

> > I may have to answer this at length.

> >  

> > Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made in

Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement of

the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> >  

> > This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †"

523) and Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in ‘Hora

Sastra’ the first major astrological treatise.  But the

most revered astrologer was Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of

Parasara and transmitter of the knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to

public.  The Siddhantic calendar, minus the implementation of the

precession of the equinoxes, continued to be used as India’s

official calendar until A.D.1200.  That is the time Indiafell into

Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira calendar was introduced.

> >  

> > Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy.  Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> >  

> > The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0°

Aries.

> >  

> > Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler of

India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to

correct arrival of calculations.  Krishnamurthy’s

Ayanamsa is also close to Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27

seconds, being the rate of progression, and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs

as A.D.285.  It is relevant to account that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who

campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western schoolof Astrology,

determined the starting year as 221.

> >  

> > To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> > Fagon-Bradley   24°42’

> >

Lahari        Ã\

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 23ÂÂÂ\

°49’

> > Krishnamurthi   23°43

> >

B.V.Raman       22ÂÃ\

‚°22’

> >  

> > The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman and

Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that change

signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> >  

> > This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading

to wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of

Astrologer, could be at stake.

> >  

> > I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I

consider as almost correct for correct interpretations.

> >  

> > (Please Note:  Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri.  She lectures extensively

in Hindu Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada,

Germany, Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

> >  

> > Pathi. (20/3/2009) 

> > My new address from 5/April/2009

> > A.V.Pathi,

> > care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> > " Oxton " House,

> > 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> > Lincoln, UK

> > Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> >  

> >

> >  

> >  

> > A.V.Pathi,  

> > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel

Hill,        Ãâ\

€šÃ‚ Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Ã\

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Ã\

ƒâ€šÃ‚ Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

 

> > North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > 001-919-960- 3833

> > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not

recommend remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or

assurances of any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made

or use by the recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the

Grace of God he can only try to give his best and hope that his

efforts will improve the life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

oh, Man...

 

i sometime think - where is love?

 

I think it is the nature of internet to create misunderstandings. I think RR

dada has his own writing style. He meant no disrepect to you sir, Pathi ji.

 

Raja

 

 

, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

>

> RR,

>

> ..... " It is unwise for astrologers to adopt that kind of bias because then

they will see in the charts of their clients their own wishes and desires and

not the reality which applies to the nativity " .

>

>

>  

> Do not teach me. This axim suits you most.

>  

> A.V.Pathi,  

>  

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

>

> Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:06:34 PM

> Re: Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

>

>

> You must be reading the wrong arudha for me Mr. Pathi :-)

> In modern democratic times, the old-fashioned bosses and subordinates do not

exist any more (at least in the reality that I live in!) but some individuals

seem to be unable to shake those old images and sometimes project on others,

their reality. It is unwise for astrologers to adopt that kind of bias because

then they will see in the charts of their clients their own wishes and desires

and not the reality which applies to the nativity.

>

> RR

>

> , venkatachala pathi <pathiav@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr. Rohini Rajan:

> >

> > I have been watching your mails, which indicate that you are ultimate boss

and you are sure to comment on anything and everything.  I am least

interested to give my articles to your 'possessed' forum.  While I send

informative articles to many forums, I thought these would enlighten 'only

those who would like to know' on the 'subject' to expand there

interest.  I am not running an educational institution through your

'dominated' forum.

> >

> > I started learning astrology under a famous guru in 1957 and I have traveled

around world practicing Astrology and I am in many panels, which I need not

enlist to your goodself, an imminent great astrologer in you.

> >

> > With this I stop contributing to your group in any manner.  I will watch

your shadow in any group, and I will sincerely avoid it.

> > Blessings.

> >

> >  

> > A.V.Pathi,  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >

> > Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:51:15 AM

> > Dear MR. Venkatachala Pathi and your postings!

> >

> >

> > I have been seeing some of these *postings* which appear as if from some

forum where you were Questioned and Answered and now you wish to enlighten us

here on Jyotish_remedies forum!

> >

> > I am assuming that these postings that you kindly share with all of us

" great unwashed " are about astrology and if so -- please INCLUDE enough

astrological details so that those of us who have the time to take your postings

SERIOUSLY can respond astrologically!

> >

> > Otherwise -- you are just wasting our TIME!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , venkatachala pathi <pathiav@ >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Q:: In my horoscope made in three different places in as many softwares,

in Chennai. In each one of them there are different

â€ˊ" Ayanamsa’ in which the charts are calculated. I

notice the placements of Planets in the same Data given also in different places

in the NatalChart Why? (Sath....3/2/ 2009)

> > >  

> > > I may have to answer this at length.

> > >  

> > > Our early calculations, before 1200 AD or about that time, were all made

in Siddhantic Calendar and our time was under Vedic Principles of the movement

of the Moon and rising of the Sun.

> > >  

> > > This was extensively brought to practice by Aryabatta (AD 476 †"

523) and Parasara (fifth century AD). This could be found in â€ˊ" Hora

Sastra’ the first major astrological treatise.  But the

most revered astrologer was Varahamihra (AD 505 †" 587), a student of

Parasara and transmitter of the knowledge that Parasara was notable to convey to

public.  The Siddhantic calendar, minus the implementation of the

precession of the equinoxes, continued to be used as India’s

official calendar until A.D.1200.  That is the time Indiafell into

Muslim rule, from 1200 to 1757 A.D., when Lunar Hijira calendar was introduced.

> > >  

> > > Hindu communities through out Indiamanaged to continue to maintain

independence and retained their calendars for religious purposes. This

eventually left to the task of calendar making in the hands of regional

astrologers, who had little knowledge of actual astronomy.  Even now the

astronomical calendars (Panjang) continue to be in the hands of those in the

field in Kancheepuram, Arani, Tinnevelly, Palghat, Mangalore and Tanjore schools

of compiling. They depended on direct observations and unscientific ancient

treatises for their calculations ( ref: the Calender Reform Committee. P.2)

> > >  

> > > The variety of Ayanamsas can be attributed to the fact that astrologers

disagree about starting point of Aries, the exact annual rate of progression,

and the year in which the vernal equinox actually coincided with 0°

Aries.

> > >  

> > > Shree Lahari, the secretary of Calendar Reform committee, is the compiler

of India’s official ephemeris, and his Ayanamsa is close to

correct arrival of calculations.  Krishnamurthy’s

Ayanamsa is also close to Lahari’s, as he calculated 50.27

seconds, being the rate of progression, and the year of two coinciding Zodiacs

as A.D.285.  It is relevant to account that, Mr Cyril Fagon, who

campaigned to the use of Sidereal Zodiac in Western schoolof Astrology,

determined the starting year as 221.

> > >  

> > > To give an example, say for the year 1997, the most commonly used

Ayanamsa’s are as follows:

> > > Fagon-Bradley   24°42’

> > >

Lahari        Ã\

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 23ÂÂÂ\

°49’

> > > Krishnamurthi   23°43

> > >

B.V.Raman       22ÂÃ\

‚°22’

> > >  

> > > The discrepancy of more than two degrees between the Ayanamsas of Raman

and Fagan can make a very marked difference, especially with the planets that

change signs according to different Ayanamsas.

> > >  

> > > This also could make an astrologer give different interpretations, leading

to wrong inference, often, while the credibility of the scholarship of

Astrologer, could be at stake.

> > >  

> > > I personal preference is Lahari’s Ayanamsas, which I

consider as almost correct for correct interpretations.

> > >  

> > > (Please Note:  Some of facts and figures as well as comments were

assimilated from various authors, including those of Ms. R.G.Dreyer(an

American), a practicing Astrologer in New York, who had spent considerable time

in Varanasi as student of Dr. Muralilal Sharma, Prof. of Jyotish in Sanskrit

University, and Pandit Deoki Nandan Shastri.  She lectures extensively

in Hindu Vedic Astrology groups including United Astrology Group in Canada,

Germany, Holland, U.K.and U.S.A.)

> > >  

> > > Pathi. (20/3/2009) 

> > > My new address from 5/April/2009

> > > A.V.Pathi,

> > > care Dr. Sreenivasan,

> > > " Oxton " House,

> > > 6Hawthorn Road, LN3 4JT

> > > Lincoln, UK

> > > Phone::0044+ 01522+595996

> > >  

> > >

> > >  

> > >  

> > > A.V.Pathi,  

> > > 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel

Hill,        Ãâ\

€šÃ‚ Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Ã\

‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Ã\

ƒâ€šÃ‚ Ã‚ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â \

 

> > > North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > > 001-919-960- 3833

> > > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ ...)All private readings are

chargeable.Disclaim er

> > > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it absolutely clear that no

discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any prediction that you receive from us

is not to be considered as a substitute for advice, program, or treatment that

you would normally receive from a licensed professional such as a lawyer,

doctor, psychiatrist, or financial advisor. A.V. Pathi will not

recommend remedies. A.V.Pathi provides no guarantees, implied warranties, or

assurances of any kind, and will not be responsible for any interpretation made

or use by the recipient of the information and data mentioned above. By the

Grace of God he can only try to give his best and hope that his

efforts will improve the life of his customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >