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can I take liberty to request you people to go through following message

 regards

--- On Fri, 6/3/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena wrote:

 

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

Kind attn Mr Nathani

 

Cc: haresh1405

Friday, 6 March, 2009, 3:32 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 23/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena wrote:

 

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Monday, 23 February, 2009, 11:46 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 22/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 4:46 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 2:48 PM

 

Respected learned members

 A very good evening to all of you

       A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

   Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her husband

will give her dues or not

Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

DOB  6jan 1959

place of birth  Mumbai

   My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes daily

to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

Regards

 

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

wrote:

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

 

Dear friend,

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal/

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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Dear Sukruti

 

U hv already got analysis done by one astro from the forum what is the point

for me to do it, it will create confusion in ur mind. If u r not satisfied by

the analysis of the astro who has done ur analysis, it will be advisable to go

for professional paid service.

 

HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER  CELL +919867214103

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database

 

 

 

 

 

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Cc: haresh1405

Saturday, 7 March, 2009 4:09:59 PM

Re: Kind attn Mr Nathani

 

 

 

Goodafternoon sir

can I take liberty to request you people to go through following message

 regards

--- On Fri, 6/3/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Kind attn Mr Nathani

 

Cc: haresh1405

Friday, 6 March, 2009, 3:32 PM

 

--- On Mon, 23/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Monday, 23 February, 2009, 11:46 AM

 

--- On Sun, 22/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 4:46 AM

 

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 2:48 PM

 

Respected learned members

 A very good evening to all of you

       A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

   Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her husband

will give her dues or not

Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

DOB  6jan 1959

place of birth  Mumbai

   My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes daily

to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

Regards

 

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

wrote:

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

 

Dear friend,

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal./

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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