Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Namaste Sir, Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is Madikeri, coorg. My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is Bangalore. thank you regards anuradha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dear Anuradha U do not have KSY in ur chart but ur son does has. Since this dosha is from 5th house to 11th house with rahu in his 5th house & his rahu MD started in sept 2006, when he starts his schooling he will hv a difficult time in concentrating on his studies. His rahu MD will go on till sept 2024. He will also hv frequent ill health problems also. GOD BLESS YOU HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ anu_k7 <anu_k7 Monday, 23 February, 2009 11:08:58 AM kal saarpa dosha Namaste Sir, Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is Madikeri, coorg. My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is Bangalore. thank you regards anuradha Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Anuradha, Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help quacks who does fixing astrology. You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the strictest term. Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal issues, better not to be discussed in all. There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be a good time for a family member/studies. Prayers to Durga will do good. Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7 wrote: > > Namaste Sir, > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > Madikeri, coorg. > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is > Bangalore. > > > thank you > regards > anuradha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear All It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers who do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY concept is for quacks. An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also thinks that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean that those who believe in God are all quacks??? Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that astrology ceases to be science. Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones lack of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic offence. Their is another speculative thought that, going by the present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & element of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something which is not true. Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones disbelief. GOD BLESS YOU HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ <gaurav.ghosh Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM Re: kal saarpa dosha ||Jai Ramakrishna| | Dear Anuradha, Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help quacks who does fixing astrology. You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the strictest term. Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal issues, better not to be discussed in all. There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be a good time for a family member/studies. Prayers to Durga will do good. Thank you, . http://gauravastro. 150m.com , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7 wrote: > > Namaste Sir, > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > Madikeri, coorg. > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is > Bangalore. > > > thank you > regards > anuradha > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear Harry, I think Kal(a)Sarp(a)Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the modern expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced and others have written about it! Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the contrary by those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! Rohiniranjan -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear All > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers who do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY concept is for quacks. > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also thinks that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that astrology ceases to be science. > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones lack of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic offence. > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & element of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something which is not true. > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones disbelief. > > GOD BLESS YOU > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ________________________________ > <gaurav.ghosh > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > Dear Anuradha, > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > quacks who does fixing astrology. > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > strictest term. > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be a > good time for a family member/studies. > Prayers to Durga will do good. > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sir, > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > Madikeri, coorg. > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is > > Bangalore. > > > > > > thank you > > regards > > anuradha > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear RR ji It is also a possibility that even a great astro scholar like Mr. K N Rao may have not got convinced on this subject coz to understand this concept one has to keep doing research. One does not requires evidence to prove. As one can experience God & evidence is not required for its existence, similarly on doing consistant research one can get to realize that KSY are big obstacles pertaining to the bhavs that are affected. It does not mean that people start chastising by refering to KSY believers as quacks. Astrology is a vast ocean. I follow Parashers principles. I hv not learnt astrology by just reading any book but from a qualified & bonafied guru. My guru was a follower of Parasher principles. This amount to say that Parasher who introduced astrology to this universe was a Quack. GOD BLESS YOU HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:48:07 PM Re: kal saarpa dosha Dear Harry, I think Kal(a)Sarp(a) Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the modern expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced and others have written about it! Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the contrary by those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! Rohiniranjan -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers who do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY concept is for quacks. > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also thinks that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that astrology ceases to be science. > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones lack of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic offence. > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & element of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something which is not true. > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones disbelief. > > GOD BLESS YOU > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > Dear Anuradha, > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > quacks who does fixing astrology. > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > strictest term. > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be a > good time for a family member/studies. > Prayers to Durga will do good. > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sir, > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > Madikeri, coorg. > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is > > Bangalore. > > > > > > thank you > > regards > > anuradha > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dear Harry, I for one would not pit against someone of the stature of K.N. Rao lightly like you have! Using " evidence " and 'proving' in the same sentence and in a mutually exclusive manner as you did in your post, hopefully hastily written, is disturbing! Are you serious? At all?? AS to your last para -- please read what you wrote! Did Parashara mention KalSarpYog(a)? Sometimes it is wiser to read and study books as opposed to follow astrology as a gospel or entirely out of devotion! ;-) The *LOGY* is the CLUE in case any have MISSED!! Rohiniranjan , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear RR ji > > It is also a possibility that even a great astro scholar like Mr. K N Rao may have not got convinced on this subject coz to understand this concept one has to keep doing research. One does not requires evidence to prove. > > As one can experience God & evidence is not required for its existence, similarly on doing consistant research one can get to realize that KSY are big obstacles pertaining to the bhavs that are affected. > > It does not mean that people start chastising by refering to KSY believers as quacks. Astrology is a vast ocean. I follow Parashers principles. I hv not learnt astrology by just reading any book but from a qualified & bonafied guru. My guru was a follower of Parasher principles. This amount to say that Parasher who introduced astrology to this universe was a Quack. > > GOD BLESS YOU > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:48:07 PM > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > Dear Harry, > > I think Kal(a)Sarp(a) Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the modern > expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced and > others have written about it! > > Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the contrary by > those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! > > Rohiniranjan > > -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) > Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear All > > > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers who > do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY > concept is for quacks. > > > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also thinks > that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that > god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean > that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes > astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body > who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that > astrology ceases to be science. > > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & > doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an > astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting > his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest > drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones lack > of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the > act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as > astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic > offence. > > > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the > present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast > popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & element > of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something > which is not true. > > > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for > those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones > disbelief. > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > CELL +919867214103 > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > Dear Anuradha, > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > strictest term. > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be > a > > good time for a family member/studies. > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > Thank you, > > . > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa > Dosha > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place > is > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > regards > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear RRji, I told almost all of the Kal Sarpa Yogis to sit down with charts of people, having KSY & lets see, if we can get to the end of it. Now these people are comparing KSY with Gods...I have nothing comment on this. I have gone through the 97 chapters of BPHS, 3 Volumes of Jatak Parijata, even the latest classic being Jatak Tatwa, by Pt.Mahadev Sharma of Ratlam---none of them speak of such an ominous combination i.e. Yoga. The last one was written in the 1800s, if my memory tells me rightly, but if there was such a combination, why weren't those mentioned in those books??? Here comes a real play now. My astrologer has an experience of over 65 years(his real age being over 90 now & still practising!!!). Once I had the opportunity to ask him about it. He said in a word, if translated to English, it's " Bogus " . Certainly,I have learnt astrology through books. Neither had anyone to guide me, in the other way, didn't need anyone to help me. With my honest quest, some God sent messengers did share their astro-secrets with me(which can be compared to family secrets as well!!) & I am sincerely thankful to them.(I am afraid, it being an open forum, I can mention those names!!) Next comes the question whether Parasara was a quack or not.Had he mentioned about such an inauspicious yoga in his magnum opus, even for the KalSarpa Yogi's sake, I am mentioning about Jatak parijata as well,or Jatak Tatwa--certainly we would accept it as a Yoga & try them in charts(Not all Parasara principles are applicable today, which you know better than I know) & use it as a predictive. But people practising parasari astrology & claiming that KSY is a Parasara yoga, I will never call Parasara a quack, rather the person who is practising it as a QUACK!!! Thank you, Gaurav. , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Harry, > > I think Kal(a)Sarp(a)Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the modern > expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced and > others have written about it! > > Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the contrary by > those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! > > Rohiniranjan > > -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) > Nathani " <haresh1405@> wrote: > > > > Dear All > > > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers who > do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY > concept is for quacks. > > > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also thinks > that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that > god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean > that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes > astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body > who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that > astrology ceases to be science. > > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & > doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an > astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting > his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest > drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones lack > of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the > act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as > astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic > offence. > > > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the > present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast > popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & element > of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something > which is not true. > > > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for > those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones > disbelief. > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > CELL +919867214103 > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > Dear Anuradha, > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > strictest term. > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be > a > > good time for a family member/studies. > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > Thank you, > > . > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa > Dosha > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place > is > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > regards > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear RRji, If one doesn't need evidence to prove, astrology could have been a Child's play. Even Astrology would never require evidence for the cause & effect. We can roam around like humbugs, give some wild predictions & finally dont bother whether the predictions really clicked or not(which being its evidence!!) I failed to find any Kalsarpa Yoga in BPHS....but Sarpa Yoga for sure!!! I sincerely hope & wish Varahamihira(who didn't even care about the nodes) or Parasara to appear & give their opinion about KSY--whether its true or not.... Thank you . , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Harry, > > I for one would not pit against someone of the stature of K.N. Rao > lightly like you have! > > Using " evidence " and 'proving' in the same sentence and in a mutually > exclusive manner as you did in your post, hopefully hastily written, > is disturbing! Are you serious? At all?? > > AS to your last para -- please read what you wrote! Did Parashara > mention KalSarpYog(a)? > > Sometimes it is wiser to read and study books as opposed to follow > astrology as a gospel or entirely out of devotion! ;-) > > The *LOGY* is the CLUE in case any have MISSED!! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > <haresh1405@> wrote: > > > > Dear RR ji > > > > It is also a possibility that even a great astro scholar like Mr. K > N Rao may have not got convinced on this subject coz to understand > this concept one has to keep doing research. One does not requires > evidence to prove. > > > > As one can experience God & evidence is not required for its > existence, similarly on doing consistant research one can get to > realize that KSY are big obstacles pertaining to the bhavs that are > affected. > > > > It does not mean that people start chastising by refering to KSY > believers as quacks. Astrology is a vast ocean. I follow Parashers > principles. I hv not learnt astrology by just reading any book but > from a qualified & bonafied guru. My guru was a follower of Parasher > principles. This amount to say that Parasher who introduced astrology > to this universe was a Quack. > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > CELL +919867214103 > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:48:07 PM > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > Dear Harry, > > > > I think Kal(a)Sarp(a) Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the > modern > > expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced and > > others have written about it! > > > > Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the contrary by > > those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) > > Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers > who > > do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY > > concept is for quacks. > > > > > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also > thinks > > that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that > > god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean > > that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > > > > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes > > astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body > > who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that > > astrology ceases to be science. > > > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & > > doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an > > astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting > > his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > > > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest > > drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > > > > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones > lack > > of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the > > act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as > > astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic > > offence. > > > > > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the > > present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast > > popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & > element > > of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something > > which is not true. > > > > > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for > > those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones > > disbelief. > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > Dear Anuradha, > > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below > the > > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only > help > > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > > strictest term. > > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem > in > > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face > personal > > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not > be > > a > > > good time for a family member/studies. > > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa > > Dosha > > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and > place > > is > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > regards > > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Varah(a)mihir(a) did care about lunar nodes! Not in VJatak(a) but for sure in VSamhitaa ;-) Some of the western Jyotishi colleagues made a big deal out of that in terms of timing and assuming what VarahMihir knew etc -- but obviously there were lacunae in what the commentators/critics wrote. It is pretty much well known now that lunar nodes have an influence in phalit as too in samhitaa. RR , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear RRji, > If one doesn't need evidence to prove, astrology could have been a > Child's play. > Even Astrology would never require evidence for the cause & effect. We > can roam around like humbugs, give some wild predictions & finally > dont bother whether the predictions really clicked or not(which being > its evidence!!) > I failed to find any Kalsarpa Yoga in BPHS....but Sarpa Yoga for sure!!! > I sincerely hope & wish Varahamihira(who didn't even care about the > nodes) or Parasara to appear & give their opinion about KSY--whether > its true or not.... > Thank you > . > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harry, > > > > I for one would not pit against someone of the stature of K.N. Rao > > lightly like you have! > > > > Using " evidence " and 'proving' in the same sentence and in a mutually > > exclusive manner as you did in your post, hopefully hastily written, > > is disturbing! Are you serious? At all?? > > > > AS to your last para -- please read what you wrote! Did Parashara > > mention KalSarpYog(a)? > > > > Sometimes it is wiser to read and study books as opposed to follow > > astrology as a gospel or entirely out of devotion! ;-) > > > > The *LOGY* is the CLUE in case any have MISSED!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > > <haresh1405@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR ji > > > > > > It is also a possibility that even a great astro scholar like Mr. K > > N Rao may have not got convinced on this subject coz to understand > > this concept one has to keep doing research. One does not requires > > evidence to prove. > > > > > > As one can experience God & evidence is not required for its > > existence, similarly on doing consistant research one can get to > > realize that KSY are big obstacles pertaining to the bhavs that are > > affected. > > > > > > It does not mean that people start chastising by refering to KSY > > believers as quacks. Astrology is a vast ocean. I follow Parashers > > principles. I hv not learnt astrology by just reading any book but > > from a qualified & bonafied guru. My guru was a follower of Parasher > > principles. This amount to say that Parasher who introduced astrology > > to this universe was a Quack. > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> > > > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:48:07 PM > > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > > > > Dear Harry, > > > > > > I think Kal(a)Sarp(a) Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the > > modern > > > expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced and > > > others have written about it! > > > > > > Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the contrary by > > > those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) > > > Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some astrologers > > who > > > do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as this KSY > > > concept is for quacks. > > > > > > > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also > > thinks > > > that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking that > > > god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean > > > that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > > > > > > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes > > > astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any body > > > who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that > > > astrology ceases to be science. > > > > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain yogs & > > > doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an > > > astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting > > > his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > > > > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest > > > drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > > > > > > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones > > lack > > > of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into the > > > act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as > > > astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an vedic > > > offence. > > > > > > > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the > > > present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast > > > popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & > > element > > > of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of something > > > which is not true. > > > > > > > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not for > > > those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion of ones > > > disbelief. > > > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > > > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > Dear Anuradha, > > > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below > > the > > > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only > > help > > > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > > > strictest term. > > > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem > > in > > > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face > > personal > > > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not > > be > > > a > > > > good time for a family member/studies. > > > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > > > Thank you, > > > > . > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa > > > Dosha > > > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and > > place > > > is > > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > regards > > > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dada, Agreed, he mentions about node in Samhita, but in Brihat Jatakam??? He only mentions about Sarpa Yoga. Yes, nodes have effects on both Samhita & Phalit--undoubtedly!! Gaurav. , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Varah(a)mihir(a) did care about lunar nodes! > Not in VJatak(a) but for sure in VSamhitaa ;-) > > Some of the western Jyotishi colleagues made a big deal out of that > in terms of timing and assuming what VarahMihir knew etc -- but > obviously there were lacunae in what the commentators/critics wrote. > > It is pretty much well known now that lunar nodes have an influence > in phalit as too in samhitaa. > > RR > > , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear RRji, > > If one doesn't need evidence to prove, astrology could have been a > > Child's play. > > Even Astrology would never require evidence for the cause & effect. > We > > can roam around like humbugs, give some wild predictions & finally > > dont bother whether the predictions really clicked or not(which > being > > its evidence!!) > > I failed to find any Kalsarpa Yoga in BPHS....but Sarpa Yoga for > sure!!! > > I sincerely hope & wish Varahamihira(who didn't even care about the > > nodes) or Parasara to appear & give their opinion about KSY--whether > > its true or not.... > > Thank you > > . > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harry, > > > > > > I for one would not pit against someone of the stature of K.N. > Rao > > > lightly like you have! > > > > > > Using " evidence " and 'proving' in the same sentence and in a > mutually > > > exclusive manner as you did in your post, hopefully hastily > written, > > > is disturbing! Are you serious? At all?? > > > > > > AS to your last para -- please read what you wrote! Did Parashara > > > mention KalSarpYog(a)? > > > > > > Sometimes it is wiser to read and study books as opposed to > follow > > > astrology as a gospel or entirely out of devotion! ;-) > > > > > > The *LOGY* is the CLUE in case any have MISSED!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) > Nathani " > > > <haresh1405@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR ji > > > > > > > > It is also a possibility that even a great astro scholar like > Mr. K > > > N Rao may have not got convinced on this subject coz to > understand > > > this concept one has to keep doing research. One does not > requires > > > evidence to prove. > > > > > > > > As one can experience God & evidence is not required for its > > > existence, similarly on doing consistant research one can get to > > > realize that KSY are big obstacles pertaining to the bhavs that > are > > > affected. > > > > > > > > It does not mean that people start chastising by refering to > KSY > > > believers as quacks. Astrology is a vast ocean. I follow > Parashers > > > principles. I hv not learnt astrology by just reading any book > but > > > from a qualified & bonafied guru. My guru was a follower of > Parasher > > > principles. This amount to say that Parasher who introduced > astrology > > > to this universe was a Quack. > > > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> > > > > > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:48:07 PM > > > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harry, > > > > > > > > I think Kal(a)Sarp(a) Yog(a) is pretty much 'done for' as the > > > modern > > > > expression goes -- what with what K.N. Rao ji has pronounced > and > > > > others have written about it! > > > > > > > > Unless REAL and HONEST evidence is brought forth to the > contrary by > > > > those who extol its heights, it is pretty much a DEAD DUCK! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > -- , " Haresh \(Harry\) > > > > Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > > > It is heartening & dissappointing to note that some > astrologers > > > who > > > > do not believe or do not have any knowldege on KSY term as > this KSY > > > > concept is for quacks. > > > > > > > > > > An athiest will always say that God does not exists. He also > > > thinks > > > > that God only exists for quacks. By just the athiest thinking > that > > > > god does not exist, does God ceases to exists? Does it mean > > > > that those who believe in God are all quacks??? > > > > > > > > > > Astrology makes an astrologer & astrologer does not makes > > > > astrology. Astrology is science & will remain science. If any > body > > > > who believes that astrology is not a science does it means that > > > > astrology ceases to be science. > > > > > Similarly if some astrologers does not believe in certain > yogs & > > > > doshas in any kundali like KSY, does KSY cease to exist. If an > > > > astrologer does not have any knowledge of KSY, rather accepting > > > > his/her drawback on lack of its knowledge > > > > > accuses others who believes as quacks, is pointing a biggest > > > > drawback in its own lack of proper knowledge of astro science. > > > > > > > > > > An vedic astrolger who is sincere learns from others for ones > > > lack > > > > of self knowledge on certain subject, rather than getting into > the > > > > act of chastism which is also an vedic spiritual offence, as > > > > astrology is an adaptation of vedas & in vedas chastism is an > vedic > > > > offence. > > > > > > > > > > Their is another speculative thought that, going by the > > > > present trend of kal yug anybody who wants to gather fast > > > > popularity, chooses the easier way by creating controversy & > > > element > > > > of doubt in peoples mind by falsely making an issue of > something > > > > which is not true. > > > > > > > > > > Astrology is a science & will remain a science and it is not > for > > > > those so called quacks who falsely create a mirage illusion > of ones > > > > disbelief. > > > > > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > > > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 23 February, 2009 1:00:10 PM > > > > > Re: kal saarpa dosha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Anuradha, > > > > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " > below > > > the > > > > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) > only > > > help > > > > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > > > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > > > > strictest term. > > > > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some > problem > > > in > > > > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face > > > personal > > > > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > > > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good > in > > > > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may > not > > > be > > > > a > > > > > good time for a family member/studies. > > > > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > . > > > > > http://gauravastro. 150m.com > > > > > > > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal > Saarpa > > > > Dosha > > > > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace > is > > > > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and > > > place > > > > is > > > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > > regards > > > > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Gaurav, I may not have recent and direct experience of what is going on in the Indian Jyotish Scean but even back in 70s to 80s etc KSY was not just a 'southern' phenomenon but very menacingly present in the ethos of North India, as far up as Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan! Although it was less aggressively sold as in current times but that is not northern or southern Indian but more 'global' a problem! RR ---In , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Anuradha, > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > quacks who does fixing astrology. > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > strictest term. > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be a > good time for a family member/studies. > Prayers to Durga will do good. > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sir, > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa Dosha > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > Madikeri, coorg. > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place is > > Bangalore. > > > > > > thank you > > regards > > anuradha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dada, Its been nice to receive a message from you again.:-) Yes, after the publication of the book " Nadi Jyotish, Stellar Astrology " by late R.G.Rao(Meena, not the writer of Bhrigu Nandi Nadi), it started spreading from South India & travelled to North India...as quickly as possible--probably to North India. Later in issues of Astrological Magazine had an article by Late Prof.P.S.Sastri, probably in the issue of Dec.1965, carrying the sloka, which is considered to be related to KSY. Certainly the sloka, mentioned without any source or any other information was talking about KSY, but its applicable for Mundane Astrology. If I am not wrong, Late B.V.Raman also used to apply this yoga for mundane predictions, for which he was obviously famous!!! Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Gaurav, > > I may not have recent and direct experience of what is going on in > the Indian Jyotish Scean but even back in 70s to 80s etc KSY was not > just a 'southern' phenomenon but very menacingly present in the ethos > of North India, as far up as Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan! Although > it was less aggressively sold as in current times but that is not > northern or southern Indian but more 'global' a problem! > > RR > > > ---In , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Anuradha, > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > strictest term. > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be > a > > good time for a family member/studies. > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > Thank you, > > . > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa > Dosha > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place > is > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > regards > > > anuradha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Gaurav, This may be 'Jethu' speaking (as you suggested) so please allow a bit of this blatant " Jethami...! " on my part without taking offence... The name was: Gopal Krishna Rao " Meen(a) " Though much maligned by those who followed him (Now talking about BVRaman) including the ones that were promoted by him and brought to the limelight, what most people forget is the simple concept that much of the western culture accepts, unless I misunderstand it! The concept is: " We stand on the shoulders of Giants who came before us(and hopefully those who follow us will find strong shoulders to stand upon when they look for a platform! " Long ago when I was learning astrology and it felt all wishy washy because I was also a student of science back then and so on -- I saw a dream described below hopefully faithfully by human recall: <<It was a very exciting and culturally rich adventure and I saw many old friends that were lost in time over the years and so on and they all seemed different but still recognizable in all details. Perhaps better understood and appreciated in the dream than they were in reality when they were with me or even in memory and recollection during my waking hours back then. There was some sort of celebration and picnic that was the theme of the dream but there were many pragmatic insights too and much understanding that ensued. The last part of the dream as I recall involved me paddling through a puddle that was more like a swamp but which I crossed easily and would not describe my specific procedure not for reasons of 'proprietary secrecy' but because it would be difficult to do so effectively in words {dreams really bring us the understanding that " a picture is indeed worth a thousand words! " } while doing any decent justice to the description and documentation! Towards the very end of this dream that I speak of, I had a revelation. Simply put: Sometimes it is more blessed to watch than to climb over the railing and find that it was shaky or not bolted down securely, in the first place! Particularly when one has seen others fall, in the dream of Maya that we are all entrapped in and so enthralled by...! Just prior to that dream, if I recall correctly, I had another one in which I saw that I had a pet Lioness and each time I fell asleep, She would reach out and claw me awake! What a strange dream! Thank GODDESS I dream no more or rarely when I sleep!! I only share all this for the embedded metaphor if nothing else for those who connect to it! To the remaining others my profound apologies for wasting their time and effort! I will try to stay out of their hair in future, if possible! Rohiniranjan , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dada, > Its been nice to receive a message from you again.:-) > Yes, after the publication of the book " Nadi Jyotish, Stellar > Astrology " by late R.G.Rao(Meena, not the writer of Bhrigu Nandi > Nadi), it started spreading from South India & travelled to North > India...as quickly as possible--probably to North India. > Later in issues of Astrological Magazine had an article by Late > Prof.P.S.Sastri, probably in the issue of Dec.1965, carrying the > sloka, which is considered to be related to KSY. > Certainly the sloka, mentioned without any source or any other > information was talking about KSY, but its applicable for Mundane > Astrology. If I am not wrong, Late B.V.Raman also used to apply this > yoga for mundane predictions, for which he was obviously famous!!! > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Gaurav, > > > > I may not have recent and direct experience of what is going on in > > the Indian Jyotish Scean but even back in 70s to 80s etc KSY was not > > just a 'southern' phenomenon but very menacingly present in the ethos > > of North India, as far up as Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan! Although > > it was less aggressively sold as in current times but that is not > > northern or southern Indian but more 'global' a problem! > > > > RR > > > > > > ---In , " " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Anuradha, > > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " below the > > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only help > > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > > strictest term. > > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some problem in > > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face personal > > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may not be > > a > > > good time for a family member/studies. > > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal Saarpa > > Dosha > > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and place > > is > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > regards > > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear " Jethu " , No issues with your " Jethami " :-).. I apologise to mention the incorrect name & checked back again, it being R.Gopalakrishna Row(or Rao). Gaurav. , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > This may be 'Jethu' speaking (as you suggested) so please allow a bit > of this blatant " Jethami...! " on my part without taking offence... > > The name was: Gopal Krishna Rao " Meen(a) " > > Though much maligned by those who followed him (Now talking about > BVRaman) including the ones that were promoted by him and brought to > the limelight, what most people forget is the simple concept that > much of the western culture accepts, unless I misunderstand it! > > The concept is: > > " We stand on the shoulders of Giants who came before us(and hopefully > those who follow us will find strong shoulders to stand upon when > they look for a platform! " > > Long ago when I was learning astrology and it felt all wishy washy > because I was also a student of science back then and so on -- I saw > a dream described below hopefully faithfully by human recall: > > <<It was a very exciting and culturally rich adventure and I saw many > old friends that were lost in time over the years and so on and they > all seemed different but still recognizable in all details. Perhaps > better understood and appreciated in the dream than they were in > reality when they were with me or even in memory and recollection > during my waking hours back then. There was some sort of celebration > and picnic that was the theme of the dream but there were many > pragmatic insights too and much understanding that ensued. The last > part of the dream as I recall involved me paddling through a puddle > that was more like a swamp but which I crossed easily and would not > describe my specific procedure not for reasons of 'proprietary > secrecy' but because it would be difficult to do so effectively in > words {dreams really bring us the understanding that " a picture is > indeed worth a thousand words! " } while doing any decent justice to > the description and documentation! > > Towards the very end of this dream that I speak of, I had a > revelation. Simply put: Sometimes it is more blessed to watch than to > climb over the railing and find that it was shaky or not bolted down > securely, in the first place! Particularly when one has seen others > fall, in the dream of Maya that we are all entrapped in and so > enthralled by...! > > Just prior to that dream, if I recall correctly, I had another one in > which I saw that I had a pet Lioness and each time I fell asleep, She > would reach out and claw me awake! What a strange dream! Thank > GODDESS I dream no more or rarely when I sleep!! > > I only share all this for the embedded metaphor if nothing else for > those who connect to it! To the remaining others my profound > apologies for wasting their time and effort! I will try to stay out > of their hair in future, if possible! > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " " > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dada, > > Its been nice to receive a message from you again.:-) > > Yes, after the publication of the book " Nadi Jyotish, Stellar > > Astrology " by late R.G.Rao(Meena, not the writer of Bhrigu Nandi > > Nadi), it started spreading from South India & travelled to North > > India...as quickly as possible--probably to North India. > > Later in issues of Astrological Magazine had an article by Late > > Prof.P.S.Sastri, probably in the issue of Dec.1965, carrying the > > sloka, which is considered to be related to KSY. > > Certainly the sloka, mentioned without any source or any other > > information was talking about KSY, but its applicable for Mundane > > Astrology. If I am not wrong, Late B.V.Raman also used to apply this > > yoga for mundane predictions, for which he was obviously famous!!! > > Thank you, > > . > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Gaurav, > > > > > > I may not have recent and direct experience of what is going on > in > > > the Indian Jyotish Scean but even back in 70s to 80s etc KSY was > not > > > just a 'southern' phenomenon but very menacingly present in the > ethos > > > of North India, as far up as Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan! > Although > > > it was less aggressively sold as in current times but that is not > > > northern or southern Indian but more 'global' a problem! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > ---In , " " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Anuradha, > > > > Things like Kalsarpa Yoga(better known as " Kalsarpa Dosha " > below the > > > > regions of Maharashtra, Orisaa, etc. i.e. in South India) only > help > > > > quacks who does fixing astrology. > > > > You certainly dont have the so-called " Kalsarpa Dosha " in the > > > > strictest term. > > > > Your son is already in Rahu Dasa. He may suffer from some > problem in > > > > digestion, cough & cold, while some family member may face > personal > > > > issues, better not to be discussed in all. > > > > There may be financial issues in the family, he will do good in > > > > studies in this period, however, the period of 2014-2017 may > not be > > > a > > > > good time for a family member/studies. > > > > Prayers to Durga will do good. > > > > Thank you, > > > > . > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > > > , " anu_k7 " <anu_k7@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sir, > > > > > Could you please tell me whether my son and I have Kal > Saarpa > > > Dosha > > > > > My date of birth is 16th july 1978, time is 14:07 and pace is > > > > > Madikeri, coorg. > > > > > My son's Date of bith is 01 august 2005, time is 15:17 and > place > > > is > > > > > Bangalore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you > > > > > regards > > > > > anuradha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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