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Dear friend,

 

You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being in

conjunct with 8th house.

 

So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

 

So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

action.

 

Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its meanings

and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

 

The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu fails

miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

 

Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

 

The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa Lord

at 24 degree.

 

Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon, moonsign

lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

 

Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

 

So when there is not a single trace of influence of this Rahu/Ketu is

(are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord how

comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

horoscope ?

 

Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer wastage

of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

 

A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly by

different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/ suffering

are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

astrology works or not ? "

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

09811971190

(Consultation out of group is not free)

 

 

> mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam

>

> Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

>

>

> Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

that

> is the reason why I always receive less than expected results for

> anything that I do.

>

> My details:

> DOB : 5th July 1976

> Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> Gender: Male

>

> I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide your

> suggestion & remedy if any.

>

> Thanks

> Manu

>

>

>

>

>

> Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/

>

>

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/*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/

Dear Members ,

 

Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

 

Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there were

many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus, tutors,

parampara.

 

Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of earnings,

and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These people

dont know

until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual. Here

because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

person very independent

and spiritual.

 

Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

 

Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont need

kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just pathetic.

 

With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good studies,

success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

 

Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

 

 

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru

--------------

/*Consultations & Pages*

http://rohinaa.com

rafal/

>

> Dear friend,

>

> You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being in

> conjunct with 8th house.

>

> So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

>

> So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> action.

>

> Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its meanings

> and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

>

> The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu fails

> miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

>

> Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

>

> The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa Lord

> at 24 degree.

>

> Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon, moonsign

> lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

>

> Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

>

> So when there is not a single trace of influence of this Rahu/Ketu is

> (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord how

> comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

>

> Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> horoscope ?

>

> Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer wastage

> of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

>

> A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly by

> different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/ suffering

> are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> astrology works or not ? "

>

> With regards and best wishes,

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> 09811971190

> (Consultation out of group is not free)

>

> > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> >

> <%40>

> > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> >

> >

> > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> that

> > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results for

> > anything that I do.

> >

> > My details:

> > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > Gender: Male

> >

> > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide your

> > suggestion & remedy if any.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Manu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> <http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

> >

> >

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Dear friend,

 

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology...chart of Lata

Mangeskar...reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

 

 

 

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> --------------

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa.com

> rafal/

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <%40>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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/*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/

Dear Friend

 

1. I suppose we have different definition of Kalasarpa/kalamrta. Per my

tradition this chart has Kalasarpa yoga.

 

2. Why you stated I have wrongly found? All I have written is strictly

under the parampara, as I always do. I think you are uninformed in some

part. Timing and remedies are in line with teachings of my Guru. Relax.

 

3. I didnt coment the situation of AK in Rasi, so why your weird

reaction? If you are ready to criticize then at least provide the

statement where I went wrong in my analysis, instead putting harsh

tongue here and there without reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru

--------------

/*Consultations & Pages*

http://rohinaa.com

rafal/

>

> Dear friend,

>

> What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

> important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

> lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

> influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

> influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

> nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

>

> How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

> by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

>

> In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

> degree.

>

> Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

> Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

> life for her.

>

> Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

> Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

> period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

>

> You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

> and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

>

> Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

> punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

>

> If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

> the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

> sincerely and honestly.

>

> Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

> this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

> Einstein .

>

> Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

> comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

> parampara.

>

> Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

> the right direction,

>

> With regards and best wishes,

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy

>

>

> <%40>, Rafał Gendarz

> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> > Dear Members ,

> >

> > Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

> >

> > Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

> were

> > many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

> tutors,

> > parampara.

> >

> > Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

> earnings,

> > and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

> people

> > dont know

> > until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

> Here

> > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> > person very independent

> > and spiritual.

> >

> > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

> >

> > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

> need

> > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

> pathetic.

> >

> > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

> studies,

> > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

> >

> > Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > SJC Jyotish Guru

> > ------------ --

> > /*Consultations & Pages*

> > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > rafal/

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

> in

> > > conjunct with 8th house.

> > >

> > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> > >

> > > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > > action.

> > >

> > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

> meanings

> > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> > >

> > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

> fails

> > > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> > >

> > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> > >

> > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

> Lord

> > > at 24 degree.

> > >

> > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

> moonsign

> > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> > >

> > > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> > >

> > > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

> Rahu/Ketu is

> > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

> how

> > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > >

> > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > > horoscope ?

> > >

> > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

> wastage

> > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> > >

> > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

> by

> > > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

> suffering

> > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > > astrology works or not ? "

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > 09811971190

> > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> > >

> > > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > > that

> > > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

> for

> > > > anything that I do.

> > > >

> > > > My details:

> > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > > Gender: Male

> > > >

> > > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

> your

> > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> <http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>>

> > > >

> > > >

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Mrutyunjayji,

Its now becoming futile to discuss with close-minded people, whether

kalsarpa yoga exists/works not--as Kaal Sarp Yogis are every busy in

advising their remedies, than to come with an open mind, listen to

what we say & then give a try.

Its like asking the mountains, who had been *standing* there for

eternity, & asking them to shift.Wont they shift at all..certainly

they will, but when an earthquake occurs, it does not see or consider

anyone, i.e. in such cases a divine intervention is needed.

What would you call these people??

Better to be termed as " Quacks " , & they always try to save themselves

by giving a misleading term called " Parampara " . Then what about those

people, who had been traditional astrologers for ages after

ages...those people who had been in this profession for over 65+

years...aren't these people from Parampara??or these people are " Quacks " ?

As I always say topics like KSY, only helps those " Quacks " , who know

less astrological reasonings to justify native's agony, & misery &

also these quacks enters the field of astrology, for some short term

fame, money & of course to act like a " God Like " Guru.These people

have never tested whatever they have learnt from their " Guru " (???) &

apply them blindly to charts.

These people are also damaging the remedial astrology--they follow

someone blindly & apply those remedies, without even cross-checking

whether that remedy will be feasible for the native or not or whether

he is advising the correct remedy or not.

These people are nothing but they are like the appendicitis in our

body--which are of no work, but if something wrong happens, they cause

pains, sometimes burst--if you remove them before it turns, its the best.

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

 

, " Mrutyunjay Tripathy "

<astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

>

> Dear friend,

>

>

> What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

> important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

> lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

> influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

> influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

> nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

>

> How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

> by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

>

> In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

> degree.

>

> Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology...chart of Lata

> Mangeskar...reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

> life for her.

>

> Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

> Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

> period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

>

> You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

> and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

>

> Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

> punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

>

> If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

> the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

> sincerely and honestly.

>

>

> Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

> this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

> Einstein .

>

>

> Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

> comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

> parampara.

>

> Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

> the right direction,

>

> With regards and best wishes,

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy

>

>

>

>

>

> , Rafał Gendarz

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/

> > Dear Members ,

> >

> > Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

> >

> > Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

> were

> > many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

> tutors,

> > parampara.

> >

> > Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

> earnings,

> > and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

> people

> > dont know

> > until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

> Here

> > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> > person very independent

> > and spiritual.

> >

> > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

> >

> > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

> need

> > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

> pathetic.

> >

> > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

> studies,

> > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

> >

> > Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > SJC Jyotish Guru

> > --------------

> > /*Consultations & Pages*

> > http://rohinaa.com

> > rafal@/

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

> in

> > > conjunct with 8th house.

> > >

> > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> > >

> > > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > > action.

> > >

> > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

> meanings

> > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> > >

> > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

> fails

> > > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> > >

> > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> > >

> > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

> Lord

> > > at 24 degree.

> > >

> > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

> moonsign

> > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> > >

> > > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> > >

> > > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

> Rahu/Ketu is

> > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

> how

> > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > >

> > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > > horoscope ?

> > >

> > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

> wastage

> > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> > >

> > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

> by

> > > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

> suffering

> > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > > astrology works or not ? "

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > 09811971190

> > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> > >

> > > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > > >

> > > <%40>

> > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > > that

> > > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

> for

> > > > anything that I do.

> > > >

> > > > My details:

> > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > > Gender: Male

> > > >

> > > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

> your

> > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > > <http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear learned members,

 

I have been silent observer of this group for quite sometime. And have witnessed

lots of intellectually simulating exchange between lalit, RR, chandrashekhar ji,

gaurav, raefel, Mrutanjay etc.

 

I am like the most of the members, who joined this group for asking a free

query.:) but as i have basic curiosity in astrology and know a very little (few

drops compare to vast ocean of knowledge that learned members here have) through

information available on net.

 

I am not looking for a free query here (as i have already asked that in

beginning) but just posting my details as some people say I have Kal sarpa yog

but most of the astrologer and some sites that i have visited said there is NO

kal sarp yog in my horoscope. Personally I have my share of problems and some

good times like any other human being. And after going through all those

problem, I can say that eventhough like any other human being I have my own

aspiration and desires which have remained unfullfilled (m working towards

them), I can say that i till now have fairly good life.

 

I am posting my birth details, personally I know that general perception is that

if all the planets are between Ketu & Rahu then there is a Kal sarp yog (pardon

me if I m wrong, as this what i have read on net). But I have Ketu in 4th house

and Rahu in 10th house with Jupiter in 1st house.

 

My details are as following-

DOB- 9/9/1974

Place - kangra, Himachal Pradesh

Time - 5:55 PM

 

Hope no one will take it as way of getting any free query. I am just putting it

as a case study for discussion and can further Share information on major

incidents and instance of my life to study the effect of planets. For example I

remember lalit having a discussion on Fathers house, well to begin with can u

tell me why there is so much tension between me and my father.. I mean we cant

stand eachother and feel that both against each other. That doesnt mean that we

dont love each other. But I personally feel that his sarcastic remarks always

put me down. But again I still cherish a amazing and lovely letter he wrote to

me.. describing what i need to do in life.. and that letter show how much he

loves me and care for me.

 

Anyway its call of learned members, if they want to discuss it.

 

Warm regards,

 

R

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, <gaurav.ghosh wrote:

 

> <gaurav.ghosh

> Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

>

> Friday, February 20, 2009, 9:54 PM

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Mrutyunjayji,

> Its now becoming futile to discuss with close-minded

> people, whether

> kalsarpa yoga exists/works not--as Kaal Sarp Yogis are

> every busy in

> advising their remedies, than to come with an open mind,

> listen to

> what we say & then give a try.

> Its like asking the mountains, who had been *standing*

> there for

> eternity, & asking them to shift.Wont they shift at

> all..certainly

> they will, but when an earthquake occurs, it does not see

> or consider

> anyone, i.e. in such cases a divine intervention is needed.

> What would you call these people??

> Better to be termed as " Quacks " , & they

> always try to save themselves

> by giving a misleading term called " Parampara " .

> Then what about those

> people, who had been traditional astrologers for ages after

> ages...those people who had been in this profession for

> over 65+

> years...aren't these people from Parampara??or these

> people are " Quacks " ?

> As I always say topics like KSY, only helps those

> " Quacks " , who know

> less astrological reasonings to justify native's agony,

> & misery &

> also these quacks enters the field of astrology, for some

> short term

> fame, money & of course to act like a " God

> Like " Guru.These people

> have never tested whatever they have learnt from their

> " Guru " (???) &

> apply them blindly to charts.

> These people are also damaging the remedial astrology--they

> follow

> someone blindly & apply those remedies, without even

> cross-checking

> whether that remedy will be feasible for the native or not

> or whether

> he is advising the correct remedy or not.

> These people are nothing but they are like the appendicitis

> in our

> body--which are of no work, but if something wrong happens,

> they cause

> pains, sometimes burst--if you remove them before it turns,

> its the best.

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

>

>

> , " Mrutyunjay

> Tripathy "

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> >

> > What I am saying is since there is no close influence

> of nodes on

> > important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna,

> moon and their

> > lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no

> malefic

> > influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the

> orb of

> > influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets

> and cusps are

> > nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

> >

> > How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from

> Nodes to be ruled

> > by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi

> Sandhi at 29

> > degree.

> >

> > Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic

> Astrology...chart of Lata

> > Mangeskar...reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause

> of no married

> > life for her.

> >

> > Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of

> Atmakaraka

> > Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this

> chart...as Jupiter's

> > period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

> >

> > You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala

> Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

> > and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

> >

> > Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever

> Atmakaraka is weak it

> > punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering

> (cleansing).

> >

> > If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition

> please go back to

> > the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and

> follow it

> > sincerely and honestly.

> >

> >

> > Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you

> must belive

> > this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name

> of Albert

> > Einstein .

> >

> >

> > Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more

> responsible

> > comparable to other members as a desinated

> Guru(teacher) of this

> > parampara.

> >

> > Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your

> intelligence in

> > the right direction,

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Rafał

> Gendarz

> > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/

> > > Dear Members ,

> > >

> > > Person should feel strained in life, much

> confused in relationship

> > > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of

> age.

> > >

> > > Those people feel that life has not started

> before 30'ties, there

> > were

> > > many delays and obstruction and the help was

> coming from Gurus,

> > tutors,

> > > parampara.

> > >

> > > Main confusion were connected to place of stay

> and source of

> > earnings,

> > > and person could have ailments which are hard to

> diagnose. These

> > people

> > > dont know

> > > until 30's which path to follow, whether

> material or spiritual.

> > Here

> > > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like

> Kalamrta and makes

> > > person very independent

> > > and spiritual.

> > >

> > > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

> > >

> > > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal

> prediction. You dont

> > need

> > > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse

> your predictions,

> > > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that

> argument is just

> > pathetic.

> > >

> > > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds

> intelligence, books or

> > > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with

> Lagnesh gives good

> > studies,

> > > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few

> travelings especilly

> > > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

> > >

> > > Venus in that position usually makes one the

> eldest.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > SJC Jyotish Guru

> > > --------------

> > > /*Consultations & Pages*

> > > http://rohinaa.com

> > > rafal@/

> > > >

> > > > Dear friend,

> > > >

> > > > You are presently running the dasa of

> Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi

> closely afflicted by being

> > in

> > > > conjunct with 8th house.

> > > >

> > > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned,

> well conceived.

> > > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> > > >

> > > > So whatever planning or doing please take

> help of your family

> > > > members, well wishers and experts in these

> rlevant field of your

> > > > action.

> > > >

> > > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and

> meditation on its

> > meanings

> > > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be

> certainly helpful as

> > > > remedial measures to help you out of your

> present problems.

> > > >

> > > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really

> caused by Rahu/Ketu

> > fails

> > > > miserably the acid test in your case on the

> following grounds:

> > > >

> > > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of

> Libra/Aries

> > > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and

> Mars at 5 degree,

> > > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury

> at 7 degree.

> > > >

> > > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29

> degree and Antardasa

> > Lord

> > > > at 24 degree.

> > > >

> > > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of

> these so called Kala or

> > > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/

> lagna lord, moon,

> > moonsign

> > > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and

> their signlords also.

> > > >

> > > > Even you are not born in any of the

> constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> > > >

> > > > So when there is not a single trace of

> influence of this

> > Rahu/Ketu is

> > > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa

> and antardasa lord

> > how

> > > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > > >

> > > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does

> not exists in your

> > > > horoscope ?

> > > >

> > > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial

> measures is a sheer

> > wastage

> > > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket

> remedies do not go for

> > > > real analysis of chart hence save the time !

> )and money and in the

> > > > long run results in bad name to astrology

> and astrologers.

> > > >

> > > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir,

> we have performed all the

> > > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade

> sati etc. repeatedly

> > by

> > > > different Brahmins at different

> places...still our problem/

> > suffering

> > > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and

> tell us honestly if ever

> > > > astrology works or not ? "

> > > >

> > > > With regards and best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > > 09811971190

> > > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> > > >

> > > > > mail_manu_unam

> <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > >

> <%40>

> > > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009

> 11:40:22 PM

> > > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Someone saw my birth details & told

> that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > > > that

> > > > > is the reason why I always receive less

> than expected results

> > for

> > > > > anything that I do.

> > > > >

> > > > > My details:

> > > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > > > Gender: Male

> > > > >

> > > > > I would appreciate I you can please

> check my details & provide

> > your

> > > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Connect with friends all over the

> world. Get India

> > > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./

> ?wm=n/

> > > > <http://in.messenger./?wm=n/>

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

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Namasthe

 

Though your intentions are very good, astrology is far more serious

than you think. Unless there is any real neccessity,it wont do you

any good, rather the exerise may end up in more confusions.

 

Have confidence in yourself and pray to god sincerly and go on with

your normal life.

 

I hope you understand and take this is good sence

May god bless you

A.G.Suresh babu

 

 

, anu <susila888 wrote:

>

> Dear learned members,

>

> I have been silent observer of this group for quite sometime. And

have witnessed lots of intellectually simulating exchange between

lalit, RR, chandrashekhar ji, gaurav, raefel, Mrutanjay etc.

>

> I am like the most of the members, who joined this group for asking

a free query.:) but as i have basic curiosity in astrology and know a

very little (few drops compare to vast ocean of knowledge that

learned members here have) through information available on net.

>

> I am not looking for a free query here (as i have already asked

that in beginning) but just posting my details as some people say I

have Kal sarpa yog but most of the astrologer and some sites that i

have visited said there is NO kal sarp yog in my horoscope.

Personally I have my share of problems and some good times like any

other human being. And after going through all those problem, I can

say that eventhough like any other human being I have my own

aspiration and desires which have remained unfullfilled (m working

towards them), I can say that i till now have fairly good life.

>

> I am posting my birth details, personally I know that general

perception is that if all the planets are between Ketu & Rahu then

there is a Kal sarp yog (pardon me if I m wrong, as this what i have

read on net). But I have Ketu in 4th house and Rahu in 10th house

with Jupiter in 1st house.

>

> My details are as following-

> DOB- 9/9/1974

> Place - kangra, Himachal Pradesh

> Time - 5:55 PM

>

> Hope no one will take it as way of getting any free query. I am

just putting it as a case study for discussion and can further Share

information on major incidents and instance of my life to study the

effect of planets. For example I remember lalit having a discussion

on Fathers house, well to begin with can u tell me why there is so

much tension between me and my father.. I mean we cant stand

eachother and feel that both against each other. That doesnt mean

that we dont love each other. But I personally feel that his

sarcastic remarks always put me down. But again I still cherish a

amazing and lovely letter he wrote to me.. describing what i need to

do in life.. and that letter show how much he loves me and care for

me.

>

> Anyway its call of learned members, if they want to discuss it.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> R

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 Anu

 

I am not sure  IF u were part of this group earlier in  this or any other ID,

this ID shows u r a member from Jan 24 09 so the starting lines seem out of

place here.

 

it is also possible u have a diff ID or have exchanged views with the names u

said in a diff grp and this is a RE-HASH mail in as many groups u can put them

accross? though not asking for a free reading directly but do expect some spin

offs from anyone,

 

KSY has been debated several times please see the arcvhives in this grp and all

other places u have been has plenty of info,

 

now if u have a serious question u can ask straight tna a back door KSY.

 

prashant

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, anu <susila888 wrote:

 

anu <susila888

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, February 20, 2009, 6:17 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear learned members,

 

 

 

I have been silent observer of this group for quite sometime. And have witnessed

lots of intellectually simulating exchange between lalit, RR, chandrashekhar ji,

gaurav, raefel, Mrutanjay etc.

 

 

 

I am like the most of the members, who joined this group for asking a free

query.:) but as i have basic curiosity in astrology and know a very little (few

drops compare to vast ocean of knowledge that learned members here have) through

information available on net.

 

 

 

I am not looking for a free query here (as i have already asked that in

beginning) but just posting my details as some people say I have Kal sarpa yog

but most of the astrologer and some sites that i have visited said there is NO

kal sarp yog in my horoscope. Personally I have my share of problems and some

good times like any other human being. And after going through all those

problem, I can say that eventhough like any other human being I have my own

aspiration and desires which have remained unfullfilled (m working towards

them), I can say that i till now have fairly good life.

 

 

 

I am posting my birth details, personally I know that general perception is that

if all the planets are between Ketu & Rahu then there is a Kal sarp yog (pardon

me if I m wrong, as this what i have read on net). But I have Ketu in 4th house

and Rahu in 10th house with Jupiter in 1st house.

 

 

 

My details are as following-

 

DOB- 9/9/1974

 

Place - kangra, Himachal Pradesh

 

Time - 5:55 PM

 

 

 

Hope no one will take it as way of getting any free query. I am just putting it

as a case study for discussion and can further Share information on major

incidents and instance of my life to study the effect of planets. For example I

remember lalit having a discussion on Fathers house, well to begin with can u

tell me why there is so much tension between me and my father.. I mean we cant

stand eachother and feel that both against each other. That doesnt mean that we

dont love each other. But I personally feel that his sarcastic remarks always

put me down. But again I still cherish a amazing and lovely letter he wrote to

me.. describing what i need to do in life.. and that letter show how much he

loves me and care for me.

 

 

 

Anyway its call of learned members, if they want to discuss it.

 

 

 

Warm regards,

 

 

 

R

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

 

 

 

> <gaurav.ghosh@ >

 

> Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

>

 

> Friday, February 20, 2009, 9:54 PM

 

> ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

 

> Dear Mrutyunjayji,

 

> Its now becoming futile to discuss with close-minded

 

> people, whether

 

> kalsarpa yoga exists/works not--as Kaal Sarp Yogis are

 

> every busy in

 

> advising their remedies, than to come with an open mind,

 

> listen to

 

> what we say & then give a try.

 

> Its like asking the mountains, who had been *standing*

 

> there for

 

> eternity, & asking them to shift.Wont they shift at

 

> all..certainly

 

> they will, but when an earthquake occurs, it does not see

 

> or consider

 

> anyone, i.e. in such cases a divine intervention is needed.

 

> What would you call these people??

 

> Better to be termed as " Quacks " , & they

 

> always try to save themselves

 

> by giving a misleading term called " Parampara " .

 

> Then what about those

 

> people, who had been traditional astrologers for ages after

 

> ages...those people who had been in this profession for

 

> over 65+

 

> years...aren' t these people from Parampara??or these

 

> people are " Quacks " ?

 

> As I always say topics like KSY, only helps those

 

> " Quacks " , who know

 

> less astrological reasonings to justify native's agony,

 

> & misery &

 

> also these quacks enters the field of astrology, for some

 

> short term

 

> fame, money & of course to act like a " God

 

> Like " Guru.These people

 

> have never tested whatever they have learnt from their

 

> " Guru " (???) &

 

> apply them blindly to charts.

 

> These people are also damaging the remedial astrology--they

 

> follow

 

> someone blindly & apply those remedies, without even

 

> cross-checking

 

> whether that remedy will be feasible for the native or not

 

> or whether

 

> he is advising the correct remedy or not.

 

> These people are nothing but they are like the appendicitis

 

> in our

 

> body--which are of no work, but if something wrong happens,

 

> they cause

 

> pains, sometimes burst--if you remove them before it turns,

 

> its the best.

 

> Thank you,

 

> .

 

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

 

>

 

>

 

> , " Mrutyunjay

 

> Tripathy "

 

> <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear friend,

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > What I am saying is since there is no close influence

 

> of nodes on

 

> > important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna,

 

> moon and their

 

> > lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no

 

> malefic

 

> > influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the

 

> orb of

 

> > influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets

 

> and cusps are

 

> > nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

> >

 

> > How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from

 

> Nodes to be ruled

 

> > by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

> >

 

> > In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi

 

> Sandhi at 29

 

> > degree.

 

> >

 

> > Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic

 

> Astrology... chart of Lata

 

> > Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause

 

> of no married

 

> > life for her.

 

> >

 

> > Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of

 

> Atmakaraka

 

> > Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this

 

> chart...as Jupiter's

 

> > period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

> >

 

> > You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala

 

> Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

 

> > and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

> >

 

> > Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever

 

> Atmakaraka is weak it

 

> > punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering

 

> (cleansing).

 

> >

 

> > If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition

 

> please go back to

 

> > the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and

 

> follow it

 

> > sincerely and honestly.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you

 

> must belive

 

> > this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name

 

> of Albert

 

> > Einstein .

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more

 

> responsible

 

> > comparable to other members as a desinated

 

> Guru(teacher) of this

 

> > parampara.

 

> >

 

> > Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your

 

> intelligence in

 

> > the right direction,

 

> >

 

> > With regards and best wishes,

 

> >

 

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > , Rafał

 

> Gendarz

 

> > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

 

> > > Dear Members ,

 

> > >

 

> > > Person should feel strained in life, much

 

> confused in relationship

 

> > > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of

 

> age.

 

> > >

 

> > > Those people feel that life has not started

 

> before 30'ties, there

 

> > were

 

> > > many delays and obstruction and the help was

 

> coming from Gurus,

 

> > tutors,

 

> > > parampara.

 

> > >

 

> > > Main confusion were connected to place of stay

 

> and source of

 

> > earnings,

 

> > > and person could have ailments which are hard to

 

> diagnose. These

 

> > people

 

> > > dont know

 

> > > until 30's which path to follow, whether

 

> material or spiritual.

 

> > Here

 

> > > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like

 

> Kalamrta and makes

 

> > > person very independent

 

> > > and spiritual.

 

> > >

 

> > > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

 

> > >

 

> > > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal

 

> prediction. You dont

 

> > need

 

> > > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse

 

> your predictions,

 

> > > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that

 

> argument is just

 

> > pathetic.

 

> > >

 

> > > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds

 

> intelligence, books or

 

> > > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with

 

> Lagnesh gives good

 

> > studies,

 

> > > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few

 

> travelings especilly

 

> > > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

 

> > >

 

> > > Venus in that position usually makes one the

 

> eldest.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Regards

 

> > > Rafal Gendarz

 

> > > SJC Jyotish Guru

 

> > > ------------ --

 

> > > /*Consultations & Pages*

 

> > > http://rohinaa. com

 

> > > rafal@/

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear friend,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > You are presently running the dasa of

 

> Atmakara and 3rd lord of

 

> > > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi

 

> closely afflicted by being

 

> > in

 

> > > > conjunct with 8th house.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned,

 

> well conceived.

 

> > > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So whatever planning or doing please take

 

> help of your family

 

> > > > members, well wishers and experts in these

 

> rlevant field of your

 

> > > > action.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and

 

> meditation on its

 

> > meanings

 

> > > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be

 

> certainly helpful as

 

> > > > remedial measures to help you out of your

 

> present problems.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really

 

> caused by Rahu/Ketu

 

> > fails

 

> > > > miserably the acid test in your case on the

 

> following grounds:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

 

> > > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of

 

> Libra/Aries

 

> > > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and

 

> Mars at 5 degree,

 

> > > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury

 

> at 7 degree.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29

 

> degree and Antardasa

 

> > Lord

 

> > > > at 24 degree.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of

 

> these so called Kala or

 

> > > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/

 

> lagna lord, moon,

 

> > moonsign

 

> > > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and

 

> their signlords also.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Even you are not born in any of the

 

> constellations of Rahu/ketu.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So when there is not a single trace of

 

> influence of this

 

> > Rahu/Ketu is

 

> > > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa

 

> and antardasa lord

 

> > how

 

> > > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does

 

> not exists in your

 

> > > > horoscope ?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial

 

> measures is a sheer

 

> > wastage

 

> > > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket

 

> remedies do not go for

 

> > > > real analysis of chart hence save the time !

 

> )and money and in the

 

> > > > long run results in bad name to astrology

 

> and astrologers.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir,

 

> we have performed all the

 

> > > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade

 

> sati etc. repeatedly

 

> > by

 

> > > > different Brahmins at different

 

> places...still our problem/

 

> > suffering

 

> > > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and

 

> tell us honestly if ever

 

> > > > astrology works or not ? "

 

> > > >

 

> > > > With regards and best wishes,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

> > > > 09811971190

 

> > > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

 

> > > >

 

> > > > > mail_manu_unam

 

> <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

 

> > > > >

 

> > > >

 

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

 

> > > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009

 

> 11:40:22 PM

 

> > > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Someone saw my birth details & told

 

> that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

 

> > > > that

 

> > > > > is the reason why I always receive less

 

> than expected results

 

> > for

 

> > > > > anything that I do.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > My details:

 

> > > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

 

> > > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

 

> > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

 

> > > > > Gender: Male

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > I would appreciate I you can please

 

> check my details & provide

 

> > your

 

> > > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Thanks

 

> > > > > Manu

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Connect with friends all over the

 

> world. Get India

 

> > > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./

 

> ?wm=n/

 

> > > > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

 

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> > > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

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/*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/

Dear R ,

 

You dont have kalasarpa/kalamrta due to Guru in lagna which is blessing

of Shiva (BHPS) / Vishnu (Phaldeepika).

 

Do you have problems with overweight and eldest in family?

 

 

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru

--------------

/*Consultations & Pages*

http://rohinaa.com

rafal/

>

> Dear learned members,

>

> I have been silent observer of this group for quite sometime. And have

> witnessed lots of intellectually simulating exchange between lalit,

> RR, chandrashekhar ji, gaurav, raefel, Mrutanjay etc.

>

> I am like the most of the members, who joined this group for asking a

> free query.:) but as i have basic curiosity in astrology and know a

> very little (few drops compare to vast ocean of knowledge that learned

> members here have) through information available on net.

>

> I am not looking for a free query here (as i have already asked that

> in beginning) but just posting my details as some people say I have

> Kal sarpa yog but most of the astrologer and some sites that i have

> visited said there is NO kal sarp yog in my horoscope. Personally I

> have my share of problems and some good times like any other human

> being. And after going through all those problem, I can say that

> eventhough like any other human being I have my own aspiration and

> desires which have remained unfullfilled (m working towards them), I

> can say that i till now have fairly good life.

>

> I am posting my birth details, personally I know that general

> perception is that if all the planets are between Ketu & Rahu then

> there is a Kal sarp yog (pardon me if I m wrong, as this what i have

> read on net). But I have Ketu in 4th house and Rahu in 10th house with

> Jupiter in 1st house.

>

> My details are as following-

> DOB- 9/9/1974

> Place - kangra, Himachal Pradesh

> Time - 5:55 PM

>

> Hope no one will take it as way of getting any free query. I am just

> putting it as a case study for discussion and can further Share

> information on major incidents and instance of my life to study the

> effect of planets. For example I remember lalit having a discussion on

> Fathers house, well to begin with can u tell me why there is so much

> tension between me and my father.. I mean we cant stand eachother and

> feel that both against each other. That doesnt mean that we dont love

> each other. But I personally feel that his sarcastic remarks always

> put me down. But again I still cherish a amazing and lovely letter he

> wrote to me.. describing what i need to do in life.. and that letter

> show how much he loves me and care for me.

>

> Anyway its call of learned members, if they want to discuss it.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> R

>

> --- On Fri, 2/20/09, <gaurav.ghosh@

> <gaurav.ghosh%40>> wrote:

>

> > <gaurav.ghosh@

> <gaurav.ghosh%40>>

> > Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification

> for it ?

> >

> <%40>

> > Friday, February 20, 2009, 9:54 PM

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Mrutyunjayji,

> > Its now becoming futile to discuss with close-minded

> > people, whether

> > kalsarpa yoga exists/works not--as Kaal Sarp Yogis are

> > every busy in

> > advising their remedies, than to come with an open mind,

> > listen to

> > what we say & then give a try.

> > Its like asking the mountains, who had been *standing*

> > there for

> > eternity, & asking them to shift.Wont they shift at

> > all..certainly

> > they will, but when an earthquake occurs, it does not see

> > or consider

> > anyone, i.e. in such cases a divine intervention is needed.

> > What would you call these people??

> > Better to be termed as " Quacks " , & they

> > always try to save themselves

> > by giving a misleading term called " Parampara " .

> > Then what about those

> > people, who had been traditional astrologers for ages after

> > ages...those people who had been in this profession for

> > over 65+

> > years...aren' t these people from Parampara??or these

> > people are " Quacks " ?

> > As I always say topics like KSY, only helps those

> > " Quacks " , who know

> > less astrological reasonings to justify native's agony,

> > & misery &

> > also these quacks enters the field of astrology, for some

> > short term

> > fame, money & of course to act like a " God

> > Like " Guru.These people

> > have never tested whatever they have learnt from their

> > " Guru " (???) &

> > apply them blindly to charts.

> > These people are also damaging the remedial astrology--they

> > follow

> > someone blindly & apply those remedies, without even

> > cross-checking

> > whether that remedy will be feasible for the native or not

> > or whether

> > he is advising the correct remedy or not.

> > These people are nothing but they are like the appendicitis

> > in our

> > body--which are of no work, but if something wrong happens,

> > they cause

> > pains, sometimes burst--if you remove them before it turns,

> > its the best.

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>

> >

> >

> >

> <%40>, " Mrutyunjay

> > Tripathy "

> > <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > >

> > > What I am saying is since there is no close influence

> > of nodes on

> > > important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna,

> > moon and their

> > > lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no

> > malefic

> > > influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the

> > orb of

> > > influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets

> > and cusps are

> > > nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

> > >

> > > How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from

> > Nodes to be ruled

> > > by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > >

> > > In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi

> > Sandhi at 29

> > > degree.

> > >

> > > Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic

> > Astrology... chart of Lata

> > > Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause

> > of no married

> > > life for her.

> > >

> > > Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of

> > Atmakaraka

> > > Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this

> > chart...as Jupiter's

> > > period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

> > >

> > > You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala

> > Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

> > > and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

> > >

> > > Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever

> > Atmakaraka is weak it

> > > punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering

> > (cleansing).

> > >

> > > If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition

> > please go back to

> > > the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and

> > follow it

> > > sincerely and honestly.

> > >

> > >

> > > Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you

> > must belive

> > > this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name

> > of Albert

> > > Einstein .

> > >

> > >

> > > Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more

> > responsible

> > > comparable to other members as a desinated

> > Guru(teacher) of this

> > > parampara.

> > >

> > > Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your

> > intelligence in

> > > the right direction,

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> <%40>, Rafał

> > Gendarz

> > > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> > > > Dear Members ,

> > > >

> > > > Person should feel strained in life, much

> > confused in relationship

> > > > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of

> > age.

> > > >

> > > > Those people feel that life has not started

> > before 30'ties, there

> > > were

> > > > many delays and obstruction and the help was

> > coming from Gurus,

> > > tutors,

> > > > parampara.

> > > >

> > > > Main confusion were connected to place of stay

> > and source of

> > > earnings,

> > > > and person could have ailments which are hard to

> > diagnose. These

> > > people

> > > > dont know

> > > > until 30's which path to follow, whether

> > material or spiritual.

> > > Here

> > > > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like

> > Kalamrta and makes

> > > > person very independent

> > > > and spiritual.

> > > >

> > > > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

> > > >

> > > > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal

> > prediction. You dont

> > > need

> > > > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse

> > your predictions,

> > > > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that

> > argument is just

> > > pathetic.

> > > >

> > > > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds

> > intelligence, books or

> > > > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with

> > Lagnesh gives good

> > > studies,

> > > > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few

> > travelings especilly

> > > > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

> > > >

> > > > Venus in that position usually makes one the

> > eldest.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > SJC Jyotish Guru

> > > > ------------ --

> > > > /*Consultations & Pages*

> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa.com>

> > > > rafal@/

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are presently running the dasa of

> > Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > > > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi

> > closely afflicted by being

> > > in

> > > > > conjunct with 8th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned,

> > well conceived.

> > > > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > So whatever planning or doing please take

> > help of your family

> > > > > members, well wishers and experts in these

> > rlevant field of your

> > > > > action.

> > > > >

> > > > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and

> > meditation on its

> > > meanings

> > > > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be

> > certainly helpful as

> > > > > remedial measures to help you out of your

> > present problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really

> > caused by Rahu/Ketu

> > > fails

> > > > > miserably the acid test in your case on the

> > following grounds:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > > > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of

> > Libra/Aries

> > > > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and

> > Mars at 5 degree,

> > > > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury

> > at 7 degree.

> > > > >

> > > > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29

> > degree and Antardasa

> > > Lord

> > > > > at 24 degree.

> > > > >

> > > > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of

> > these so called Kala or

> > > > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/

> > lagna lord, moon,

> > > moonsign

> > > > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and

> > their signlords also.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even you are not born in any of the

> > constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > So when there is not a single trace of

> > influence of this

> > > Rahu/Ketu is

> > > > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa

> > and antardasa lord

> > > how

> > > > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does

> > not exists in your

> > > > > horoscope ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial

> > measures is a sheer

> > > wastage

> > > > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket

> > remedies do not go for

> > > > > real analysis of chart hence save the time !

> > )and money and in the

> > > > > long run results in bad name to astrology

> > and astrologers.

> > > > >

> > > > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir,

> > we have performed all the

> > > > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade

> > sati etc. repeatedly

> > > by

> > > > > different Brahmins at different

> > places...still our problem/

> > > suffering

> > > > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and

> > tell us honestly if ever

> > > > > astrology works or not ? "

> > > > >

> > > > > With regards and best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > > > 09811971190

> > > > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> > > > >

> > > > > > mail_manu_unam

> > <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009

> > 11:40:22 PM

> > > > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Someone saw my birth details & told

> > that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > > > > that

> > > > > > is the reason why I always receive less

> > than expected results

> > > for

> > > > > > anything that I do.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My details:

> > > > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > > > > Gender: Male

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would appreciate I you can please

> > check my details & provide

> > > your

> > > > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Connect with friends all over the

> > world. Get India

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> > ?wm=n/

> > > > > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

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> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > >

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Dear Prashant,

 

I have been a member for quite sometime now. And thanks but no thanks. I dont

require any free reading anymore. As I already have put my query and had

recieved answers.

 

As i said in my earlier mail, to take it as case study is sole pregerotative of

learned members here and nothing else.

 

Anyway still thanks to you all as this forum and few other forum that i m part

of have been a great source of learning for me.

 

Warm regards,

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:54 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Anu

 

I am not sure  IF u were part of this group earlier in  this or any other ID,

this ID shows u r a member from Jan 24 09 so the starting lines seem out of

place here.

 

it is also possible u have a diff ID or have exchanged views with the names u

said in a diff grp and this is a RE-HASH mail in as many groups u can put them

accross? though not asking for a free reading directly but do expect some spin

offs from anyone,

 

KSY has been debated several times please see the arcvhives in this grp and all

other places u have been has plenty of info,

 

now if u have a serious question u can ask straight tna a back door KSY.

 

prashant

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, anu <susila888 > wrote:

 

anu <susila888 >

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, February 20, 2009, 6:17 AM

 

Dear learned members,

 

I have been silent observer of this group for quite sometime. And have witnessed

lots of intellectually simulating exchange between lalit, RR, chandrashekhar ji,

gaurav, raefel, Mrutanjay etc.

 

I am like the most of the members, who joined this group for asking a free

query.:) but as i have basic curiosity in astrology and know a very little (few

drops compare to vast ocean of knowledge that learned members here have) through

information available on net.

 

I am not looking for a free query here (as i have already asked that in

beginning) but just posting my details as some people say I have Kal sarpa yog

but most of the astrologer and some sites that i have visited said there is NO

kal sarp yog in my horoscope. Personally I have my share of problems and some

good times like any other human being. And after going through all those

problem, I can say that eventhough like any other human being I have my own

aspiration and desires which have remained unfullfilled (m working towards

them), I can say that i till now have fairly good life.

 

I am posting my birth details, personally I know that general perception is that

if all the planets are between Ketu & Rahu then there is a Kal sarp yog (pardon

me if I m wrong, as this what i have read on net). But I have Ketu in 4th house

and Rahu in 10th house with Jupiter in 1st house.

 

My details are as following-

 

DOB- 9/9/1974

 

Place - kangra, Himachal Pradesh

 

Time - 5:55 PM

 

Hope no one will take it as way of getting any free query. I am just putting it

as a case study for discussion and can further Share information on major

incidents and instance of my life to study the effect of planets. For example I

remember lalit having a discussion on Fathers house, well to begin with can u

tell me why there is so much tension between me and my father.. I mean we cant

stand eachother and feel that both against each other. That doesnt mean that we

dont love each other. But I personally feel that his sarcastic remarks always

put me down. But again I still cherish a amazing and lovely letter he wrote to

me.. describing what i need to do in life.. and that letter show how much he

loves me and care for me.

 

Anyway its call of learned members, if they want to discuss it.

 

Warm regards,

 

R

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, <gaurav.ghosh@ > wrote:

 

> <gaurav.ghosh@ >

 

> Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

>

 

> Friday, February 20, 2009, 9:54 PM

 

> ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

 

> Dear Mrutyunjayji,

 

> Its now becoming futile to discuss with close-minded

 

> people, whether

 

> kalsarpa yoga exists/works not--as Kaal Sarp Yogis are

 

> every busy in

 

> advising their remedies, than to come with an open mind,

 

> listen to

 

> what we say & then give a try.

 

> Its like asking the mountains, who had been *standing*

 

> there for

 

> eternity, & asking them to shift.Wont they shift at

 

> all..certainly

 

> they will, but when an earthquake occurs, it does not see

 

> or consider

 

> anyone, i.e. in such cases a divine intervention is needed.

 

> What would you call these people??

 

> Better to be termed as " Quacks " , & they

 

> always try to save themselves

 

> by giving a misleading term called " Parampara " .

 

> Then what about those

 

> people, who had been traditional astrologers for ages after

 

> ages...those people who had been in this profession for

 

> over 65+

 

> years...aren' t these people from Parampara??or these

 

> people are " Quacks " ?

 

> As I always say topics like KSY, only helps those

 

> " Quacks " , who know

 

> less astrological reasonings to justify native's agony,

 

> & misery &

 

> also these quacks enters the field of astrology, for some

 

> short term

 

> fame, money & of course to act like a " God

 

> Like " Guru.These people

 

> have never tested whatever they have learnt from their

 

> " Guru " (???) &

 

> apply them blindly to charts.

 

> These people are also damaging the remedial astrology--they

 

> follow

 

> someone blindly & apply those remedies, without even

 

> cross-checking

 

> whether that remedy will be feasible for the native or not

 

> or whether

 

> he is advising the correct remedy or not.

 

> These people are nothing but they are like the appendicitis

 

> in our

 

> body--which are of no work, but if something wrong happens,

 

> they cause

 

> pains, sometimes burst--if you remove them before it turns,

 

> its the best.

 

> Thank you,

 

> .

 

> http://gauravastro. 150m.com

 

>

 

>

 

> , " Mrutyunjay

 

> Tripathy "

 

> <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear friend,

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > What I am saying is since there is no close influence

 

> of nodes on

 

> > important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna,

 

> moon and their

 

> > lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no

 

> malefic

 

> > influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the

 

> orb of

 

> > influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets

 

> and cusps are

 

> > nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

> >

 

> > How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from

 

> Nodes to be ruled

 

> > by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

> >

 

> > In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi

 

> Sandhi at 29

 

> > degree.

 

> >

 

> > Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic

 

> Astrology... chart of Lata

 

> > Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause

 

> of no married

 

> > life for her.

 

> >

 

> > Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of

 

> Atmakaraka

 

> > Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this

 

> chart...as Jupiter's

 

> > period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

> >

 

> > You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala

 

> Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

 

> > and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

> >

 

> > Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever

 

> Atmakaraka is weak it

 

> > punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering

 

> (cleansing).

 

> >

 

> > If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition

 

> please go back to

 

> > the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and

 

> follow it

 

> > sincerely and honestly.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you

 

> must belive

 

> > this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name

 

> of Albert

 

> > Einstein .

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more

 

> responsible

 

> > comparable to other members as a desinated

 

> Guru(teacher) of this

 

> > parampara.

 

> >

 

> > Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your

 

> intelligence in

 

> > the right direction,

 

> >

 

> > With regards and best wishes,

 

> >

 

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > , Rafał

 

> Gendarz

 

> > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

 

> > > Dear Members ,

 

> > >

 

> > > Person should feel strained in life, much

 

> confused in relationship

 

> > > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of

 

> age.

 

> > >

 

> > > Those people feel that life has not started

 

> before 30'ties, there

 

> > were

 

> > > many delays and obstruction and the help was

 

> coming from Gurus,

 

> > tutors,

 

> > > parampara.

 

> > >

 

> > > Main confusion were connected to place of stay

 

> and source of

 

> > earnings,

 

> > > and person could have ailments which are hard to

 

> diagnose. These

 

> > people

 

> > > dont know

 

> > > until 30's which path to follow, whether

 

> material or spiritual.

 

> > Here

 

> > > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like

 

> Kalamrta and makes

 

> > > person very independent

 

> > > and spiritual.

 

> > >

 

> > > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

 

> > >

 

> > > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal

 

> prediction. You dont

 

> > need

 

> > > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse

 

> your predictions,

 

> > > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that

 

> argument is just

 

> > pathetic.

 

> > >

 

> > > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds

 

> intelligence, books or

 

> > > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with

 

> Lagnesh gives good

 

> > studies,

 

> > > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few

 

> travelings especilly

 

> > > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

 

> > >

 

> > > Venus in that position usually makes one the

 

> eldest.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Regards

 

> > > Rafal Gendarz

 

> > > SJC Jyotish Guru

 

> > > ------------ --

 

> > > /*Consultations & Pages*

 

> > > http://rohinaa. com

 

> > > rafal@/

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear friend,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > You are presently running the dasa of

 

> Atmakara and 3rd lord of

 

> > > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi

 

> closely afflicted by being

 

> > in

 

> > > > conjunct with 8th house.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned,

 

> well conceived.

 

> > > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So whatever planning or doing please take

 

> help of your family

 

> > > > members, well wishers and experts in these

 

> rlevant field of your

 

> > > > action.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and

 

> meditation on its

 

> > meanings

 

> > > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be

 

> certainly helpful as

 

> > > > remedial measures to help you out of your

 

> present problems.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really

 

> caused by Rahu/Ketu

 

> > fails

 

> > > > miserably the acid test in your case on the

 

> following grounds:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

 

> > > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of

 

> Libra/Aries

 

> > > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and

 

> Mars at 5 degree,

 

> > > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury

 

> at 7 degree.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29

 

> degree and Antardasa

 

> > Lord

 

> > > > at 24 degree.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of

 

> these so called Kala or

 

> > > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/

 

> lagna lord, moon,

 

> > moonsign

 

> > > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and

 

> their signlords also.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Even you are not born in any of the

 

> constellations of Rahu/ketu.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > So when there is not a single trace of

 

> influence of this

 

> > Rahu/Ketu is

 

> > > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa

 

> and antardasa lord

 

> > how

 

> > > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does

 

> not exists in your

 

> > > > horoscope ?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial

 

> measures is a sheer

 

> > wastage

 

> > > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket

 

> remedies do not go for

 

> > > > real analysis of chart hence save the time !

 

> )and money and in the

 

> > > > long run results in bad name to astrology

 

> and astrologers.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir,

 

> we have performed all the

 

> > > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade

 

> sati etc. repeatedly

 

> > by

 

> > > > different Brahmins at different

 

> places...still our problem/

 

> > suffering

 

> > > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and

 

> tell us honestly if ever

 

> > > > astrology works or not ? "

 

> > > >

 

> > > > With regards and best wishes,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

> > > > 09811971190

 

> > > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

 

> > > >

 

> > > > > mail_manu_unam

 

> <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

 

> > > > >

 

> > > >

 

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

 

> > > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009

 

> 11:40:22 PM

 

> > > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Someone saw my birth details & told

 

> that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

 

> > > > that

 

> > > > > is the reason why I always receive less

 

> than expected results

 

> > for

 

> > > > > anything that I do.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > My details:

 

> > > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

 

> > > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

 

> > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

 

> > > > > Gender: Male

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > I would appreciate I you can please

 

> check my details & provide

 

> > your

 

> > > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Thanks

 

> > > > > Manu

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Connect with friends all over the

 

> world. Get India

 

> > > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./

 

> ?wm=n/

 

> > > > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

 

> been removed]

 

> > > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

 

> removed]

 

> > >

 

> >

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Rafal,

 

I am the eldest son in family but not over weight. But yes i have been under

weight through out my young life and was considered thin. And I was very and

still very fit physically as have been a very active and good sportsman. But yes

if used to be teased by friends and family as thin and it effect negatively my

self confidence also.

 

Warm regards,

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:

 

Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Saturday, February 21, 2009, 12:26 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

/*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

Dear R ,

 

You dont have kalasarpa/kalamrta due to Guru in lagna which is blessing

of Shiva (BHPS) / Vishnu (Phaldeepika) .

 

Do you have problems with overweight and eldest in family?

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

SJC Jyotish Guru

------------ --

/*Consultations & Pages*

http://rohinaa. com

rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com/

>

> Dear learned members,

>

> I have been silent observer of this group for quite sometime. And have

> witnessed lots of intellectually simulating exchange between lalit,

> RR, chandrashekhar ji, gaurav, raefel, Mrutanjay etc.

>

> I am like the most of the members, who joined this group for asking a

> free query.:) but as i have basic curiosity in astrology and know a

> very little (few drops compare to vast ocean of knowledge that learned

> members here have) through information available on net.

>

> I am not looking for a free query here (as i have already asked that

> in beginning) but just posting my details as some people say I have

> Kal sarpa yog but most of the astrologer and some sites that i have

> visited said there is NO kal sarp yog in my horoscope. Personally I

> have my share of problems and some good times like any other human

> being. And after going through all those problem, I can say that

> eventhough like any other human being I have my own aspiration and

> desires which have remained unfullfilled (m working towards them), I

> can say that i till now have fairly good life.

>

> I am posting my birth details, personally I know that general

> perception is that if all the planets are between Ketu & Rahu then

> there is a Kal sarp yog (pardon me if I m wrong, as this what i have

> read on net). But I have Ketu in 4th house and Rahu in 10th house with

> Jupiter in 1st house.

>

> My details are as following-

> DOB- 9/9/1974

> Place - kangra, Himachal Pradesh

> Time - 5:55 PM

>

> Hope no one will take it as way of getting any free query. I am just

> putting it as a case study for discussion and can further Share

> information on major incidents and instance of my life to study the

> effect of planets. For example I remember lalit having a discussion on

> Fathers house, well to begin with can u tell me why there is so much

> tension between me and my father.. I mean we cant stand eachother and

> feel that both against each other. That doesnt mean that we dont love

> each other. But I personally feel that his sarcastic remarks always

> put me down. But again I still cherish a amazing and lovely letter he

> wrote to me.. describing what i need to do in life.. and that letter

> show how much he loves me and care for me.

>

> Anyway its call of learned members, if they want to discuss it.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> R

>

> --- On Fri, 2/20/09, <gaurav.ghosh@

> <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>> wrote:

>

> > <gaurav.ghosh@

> <gaurav. ghosh%40. com>>

> > Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification

> for it ?

> >

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Friday, February 20, 2009, 9:54 PM

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna| |

> > Dear Mrutyunjayji,

> > Its now becoming futile to discuss with close-minded

> > people, whether

> > kalsarpa yoga exists/works not--as Kaal Sarp Yogis are

> > every busy in

> > advising their remedies, than to come with an open mind,

> > listen to

> > what we say & then give a try.

> > Its like asking the mountains, who had been *standing*

> > there for

> > eternity, & asking them to shift.Wont they shift at

> > all..certainly

> > they will, but when an earthquake occurs, it does not see

> > or consider

> > anyone, i.e. in such cases a divine intervention is needed.

> > What would you call these people??

> > Better to be termed as " Quacks " , & they

> > always try to save themselves

> > by giving a misleading term called " Parampara " .

> > Then what about those

> > people, who had been traditional astrologers for ages after

> > ages...those people who had been in this profession for

> > over 65+

> > years...aren' t these people from Parampara??or these

> > people are " Quacks " ?

> > As I always say topics like KSY, only helps those

> > " Quacks " , who know

> > less astrological reasonings to justify native's agony,

> > & misery &

> > also these quacks enters the field of astrology, for some

> > short term

> > fame, money & of course to act like a " God

> > Like " Guru.These people

> > have never tested whatever they have learnt from their

> > " Guru " (???) &

> > apply them blindly to charts.

> > These people are also damaging the remedial astrology--they

> > follow

> > someone blindly & apply those remedies, without even

> > cross-checking

> > whether that remedy will be feasible for the native or not

> > or whether

> > he is advising the correct remedy or not.

> > These people are nothing but they are like the appendicitis

> > in our

> > body--which are of no work, but if something wrong happens,

> > they cause

> > pains, sometimes burst--if you remove them before it turns,

> > its the best.

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro. 150m.com <http://gauravastro. 150m.com>

> >

> >

> >

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, " Mrutyunjay

> > Tripathy "

> > <astrologer_ mrutyunjay@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > >

> > > What I am saying is since there is no close influence

> > of nodes on

> > > important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna,

> > moon and their

> > > lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no

> > malefic

> > > influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the

> > orb of

> > > influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets

> > and cusps are

> > > nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

> > >

> > > How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from

> > Nodes to be ruled

> > > by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > >

> > > In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi

> > Sandhi at 29

> > > degree.

> > >

> > > Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic

> > Astrology... chart of Lata

> > > Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause

> > of no married

> > > life for her.

> > >

> > > Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of

> > Atmakaraka

> > > Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this

> > chart...as Jupiter's

> > > period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

> > >

> > > You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala

> > Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

> > > and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

> > >

> > > Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever

> > Atmakaraka is weak it

> > > punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering

> > (cleansing).

> > >

> > > If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition

> > please go back to

> > > the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and

> > follow it

> > > sincerely and honestly.

> > >

> > >

> > > Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you

> > must belive

> > > this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name

> > of Albert

> > > Einstein .

> > >

> > >

> > > Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more

> > responsible

> > > comparable to other members as a desinated

> > Guru(teacher) of this

> > > parampara.

> > >

> > > Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your

> > intelligence in

> > > the right direction,

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Rafał

> > Gendarz

> > > <starsuponme@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> > > > Dear Members ,

> > > >

> > > > Person should feel strained in life, much

> > confused in relationship

> > > > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of

> > age.

> > > >

> > > > Those people feel that life has not started

> > before 30'ties, there

> > > were

> > > > many delays and obstruction and the help was

> > coming from Gurus,

> > > tutors,

> > > > parampara.

> > > >

> > > > Main confusion were connected to place of stay

> > and source of

> > > earnings,

> > > > and person could have ailments which are hard to

> > diagnose. These

> > > people

> > > > dont know

> > > > until 30's which path to follow, whether

> > material or spiritual.

> > > Here

> > > > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like

> > Kalamrta and makes

> > > > person very independent

> > > > and spiritual.

> > > >

> > > > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

> > > >

> > > > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal

> > prediction. You dont

> > > need

> > > > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse

> > your predictions,

> > > > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that

> > argument is just

> > > pathetic.

> > > >

> > > > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds

> > intelligence, books or

> > > > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with

> > Lagnesh gives good

> > > studies,

> > > > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few

> > travelings especilly

> > > > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

> > > >

> > > > Venus in that position usually makes one the

> > eldest.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > SJC Jyotish Guru

> > > > ------------ --

> > > > /*Consultations & Pages*

> > > > http://rohinaa. com <http://rohinaa. com>

> > > > rafal@/

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are presently running the dasa of

> > Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > > > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi

> > closely afflicted by being

> > > in

> > > > > conjunct with 8th house.

> > > > >

> > > > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned,

> > well conceived.

> > > > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > So whatever planning or doing please take

> > help of your family

> > > > > members, well wishers and experts in these

> > rlevant field of your

> > > > > action.

> > > > >

> > > > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and

> > meditation on its

> > > meanings

> > > > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be

> > certainly helpful as

> > > > > remedial measures to help you out of your

> > present problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really

> > caused by Rahu/Ketu

> > > fails

> > > > > miserably the acid test in your case on the

> > following grounds:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > > > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of

> > Libra/Aries

> > > > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and

> > Mars at 5 degree,

> > > > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury

> > at 7 degree.

> > > > >

> > > > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29

> > degree and Antardasa

> > > Lord

> > > > > at 24 degree.

> > > > >

> > > > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of

> > these so called Kala or

> > > > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/

> > lagna lord, moon,

> > > moonsign

> > > > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and

> > their signlords also.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even you are not born in any of the

> > constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> > > > >

> > > > > So when there is not a single trace of

> > influence of this

> > > Rahu/Ketu is

> > > > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa

> > and antardasa lord

> > > how

> > > > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does

> > not exists in your

> > > > > horoscope ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial

> > measures is a sheer

> > > wastage

> > > > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket

> > remedies do not go for

> > > > > real analysis of chart hence save the time !

> > )and money and in the

> > > > > long run results in bad name to astrology

> > and astrologers.

> > > > >

> > > > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir,

> > we have performed all the

> > > > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade

> > sati etc. repeatedly

> > > by

> > > > > different Brahmins at different

> > places...still our problem/

> > > suffering

> > > > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and

> > tell us honestly if ever

> > > > > astrology works or not ? "

> > > > >

> > > > > With regards and best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > > > 09811971190

> > > > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> > > > >

> > > > > > mail_manu_unam

> > <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009

> > 11:40:22 PM

> > > > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Someone saw my birth details & told

> > that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > > > > that

> > > > > > is the reason why I always receive less

> > than expected results

> > > for

> > > > > > anything that I do.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My details:

> > > > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > > > > Gender: Male

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would appreciate I you can please

> > check my details & provide

> > > your

> > > > > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Connect with friends all over the

> > world. Get India

> > > > > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./

> > ?wm=n/

> > > > > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> > been removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > >

>

>

 

 

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Respected learned members

 A very good evening to all of you

       A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

   Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her husband

will give her dues or not

Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

DOB  6jan 1959

place of birth  Mumbai

   My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes daily

to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

Regards

 

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay

wrote:

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunjay

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear friend,

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal/

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 2:48 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected learned members

 A very good evening to all of you

       A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

   Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her husband

will give her dues or not

Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

DOB  6jan 1959

place of birth  Mumbai

   My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes daily

to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

Regards

 

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay >

wrote:

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_mrutyunj ay >

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

 

Dear friend,

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal/

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 4:46 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

 

Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 2:48 PM

 

Respected learned members

 A very good evening to all of you

       A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

   Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her husband

will give her dues or not

Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

DOB  6jan 1959

place of birth  Mumbai

   My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes daily

to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

Regards

 

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

wrote:

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

 

Dear friend,

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal/

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 4:46 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 2:48 PM

 

Respected learned members

 A very good evening to all of you

       A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

   Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her husband

will give her dues or not

Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

DOB  6jan 1959

place of birth  Mumbai

   My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes daily

to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

Regards

 

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

wrote:

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

 

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

 

Dear friend,

 

What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

 

How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

 

In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

degree.

 

Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

life for her.

 

Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

 

You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

 

Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

 

If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

sincerely and honestly.

 

Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

Einstein .

 

Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

parampara.

 

Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

the right direction,

 

With regards and best wishes,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

, Rafał Gendarz

<starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

>

> /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> Dear Members ,

>

> Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

>

> Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

were

> many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

tutors,

> parampara.

>

> Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

earnings,

> and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

people

> dont know

> until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

Here

> because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> person very independent

> and spiritual.

>

> Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

>

> Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

need

> kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

pathetic.

>

> With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

studies,

> success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

>

> Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

>

>

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> SJC Jyotish Guru

> ------------ --

> /*Consultations & Pages*

> http://rohinaa. com

> rafal/

> >

> > Dear friend,

> >

> > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

in

> > conjunct with 8th house.

> >

> > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> >

> > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > action.

> >

> > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

meanings

> > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> >

> > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

fails

> > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> >

> > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> >

> > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

Lord

> > at 24 degree.

> >

> > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

moonsign

> > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> >

> > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> >

> > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

Rahu/Ketu is

> > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

how

> > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> >

> > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > horoscope ?

> >

> > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

wastage

> > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> >

> > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

by

> > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

suffering

> > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > astrology works or not ? "

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> >

> > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > that

> > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

for

> > > anything that I do.

> > >

> > > My details:

> > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > Gender: Male

> > >

> > > I would appreciate I you can please check my details & provide

your

> > > suggestion & remedy if any.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Connect with friends all over the world. Get India

> > Messenger at http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/

> > <http://in.messenger ./ ?wm=n/>

> > >

> > >

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Dear friend,

 

you have Kaal Sarp Yoga in your chart, this yoga may create problems realted to

partner, partnership and social life. you should Throw Coal in running water of

your current weight on Friday, it may help you to reduce negativity of Kaal Sarp

Yoga.

 

Grace !!!

Astrology18 Group

 

 

, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

wrote:

>

>

>

> --- On Sun, 22/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena wrote:

>

> Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena

> Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

>

> Sunday, 22 February, 2009, 4:46 AM

>

>

--- On Sat, 21/2/09, Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in> wrote:

>

> Sukruti Saxena <sukrutisaxena@ .in>

> Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

>

> Saturday, 21 February, 2009, 2:48 PM

>

> Respected learned members

>  A very good evening to all of you

>        A very good freind of mine is running a preprimary school in

Gandhinagar district (Gujarat}  School is financed by her father She is running

the school since june2008 She has a daughter af aroung 4 year old(13nov2004) My

freind along with her daughter is staying with her parents She was married on 14

dec 1996 from the very first day she was harrased physically & mentally by her

husband  She had conceived with lots of problems and throught she was on bed

rest once she was thrown out by her husband along with daughter but due to

social pressure she was taken back by her huaband now again she is with her

parents Her husband is not ready to help her at all

>    Please tell when her school will give her name & fame & whether her

husband will give her dues or not

> Freinds details  DOB  4 oct 1964

> Place of Birth Gorakhpur UP

> Time of Bitrh 20:14 hours

> Husbands details   Time of Birth  3:45am

> DOB  6jan 1959

> place of birth  Mumbai

>    My freinds &   her husband staying seperately in Ahmedabad  She goes

daily to gandhinagar for the school Myfreind is staying with her parents

> Regards

>

> --- On Fri, 20/2/09, Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

wrote:

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy <astrologer_ mrutyunj ay >

> Re: Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy what is the justification for it ?

>

> Friday, 20 February, 2009, 9:03 AM

>

> Dear friend,

>

> What I am saying is since there is no close influence of nodes on

> important factors of the chart, hosue cusps, lagna, moon and their

> lords.... in this particular chart ....there exists no malefic

> influence of so called Kala Sarpa Yoga ( applying the orb of

> influence of 6 degree... except mercury othe planets and cusps are

> nearly 13-15 degree away from nodal axis )

>

> How can one justify planets 13-15 degree aways from Nodes to be ruled

> by the Rahu/ketu axis and term it as Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

>

> In this particular case Atmakaraka Jupiter is in Rasi Sandhi at 29

> degree.

>

> Refer Sanjay Rath's book on Crux of Vedic Astrology... chart of Lata

> Mangeskar... reasoning weakness of Dara Karaka as cause of no married

> life for her.

>

> Simply takeing the same cue ... severe weakness of Atmakaraka

> Jupiter is the cause of all problems in this chart...as Jupiter's

> period in Vimshottari Mahadas is running now.

>

> You have wronlgy found the defect related to Kala Sarpa Yoga/ dosha

> and its timing as well as the suggestion for remedies.

>

> Your Guru Sanjay Rath cleary says....whenever Atmakaraka is weak it

> punishes the individual ...giving a lot of suffering (cleansing).

>

> If you are respecting a Parampara... or tradition please go back to

> the basics of the teachings of this Parampara and follow it

> sincerely and honestly.

>

> Taking the name of Parampara is like saying that...you must belive

> this stupid thing as most scientific I say in the name of Albert

> Einstein .

>

> Do not be superficial. You are supposed to be a more responsible

> comparable to other members as a desinated Guru(teacher) of this

> parampara.

>

> Let all your gurus bless you together and lead your intelligence in

> the right direction,

>

> With regards and best wishes,

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy

>

> , Rafał Gendarz

> <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya* /

> > Dear Members ,

> >

> > Person should feel strained in life, much confused in relationship

> > issues and general path in life until 33 yrs of age.

> >

> > Those people feel that life has not started before 30'ties, there

> were

> > many delays and obstruction and the help was coming from Gurus,

> tutors,

> > parampara.

> >

> > Main confusion were connected to place of stay and source of

> earnings,

> > and person could have ailments which are hard to diagnose. These

> people

> > dont know

> > until 30's which path to follow, whether material or spiritual.

> Here

> > because Ketu is yuti graha its really more like Kalamrta and makes

> > person very independent

> > and spiritual.

> >

> > Thats the result of Kalasarpa here.

> >

> > Noone is frightening anybody, it just normal prediction. You dont

> need

> > kalasarpa yoga to frightened people or to excuse your predictions,

> > you can use some else yoga to do that, so that argument is just

> pathetic.

> >

> > With Karakaamsa in Dhanus with Budha it adds intelligence, books or

> > bank/accounting. Nipuna yoga starting with Lagnesh gives good

> studies,

> > success with jobs indicated by Budha and few travelings especilly

> > connected to jobs. Shukra yuti shows consulting.

> >

> > Venus in that position usually makes one the eldest.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > SJC Jyotish Guru

> > ------------ --

> > /*Consultations & Pages*

> > http://rohinaa. com

> > rafal@/

> > >

> > > Dear friend,

> > >

> > > You are presently running the dasa of Atmakara and 3rd lord of

> > > efforts Jupiter placed in Rasi sandhi closely afflicted by being

> in

> > > conjunct with 8th house.

> > >

> > > So efforts are not focussed, pre-planned, well conceived.

> > > Affliction by 8th house shows confusion.

> > >

> > > So whatever planning or doing please take help of your family

> > > members, well wishers and experts in these rlevant field of your

> > > action.

> > >

> > > Recitation of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra and meditation on its

> meanings

> > > and taking the name of Lord Ganesh would be certainly helpful as

> > > remedial measures to help you out of your present problems.

> > >

> > > The so called Kal Sarpa Yoga if any really caused by Rahu/Ketu

> fails

> > > miserably the acid test in your case on the following grounds:

> > >

> > > Rahu/ketu axis is at 15 degree Libra/Aries

> > > whereas Langa/7th house axis at 2 degre of Libra/Aries

> > > Lagna lord /7thlord Venus at 24 degree and Mars at 5 degree,

> > > Moon at 27 degree and moonsignlord mercury at 7 degree.

> > >

> > > The present Mahadasa lord Jupiter is at 29 degree and Antardasa

> Lord

> > > at 24 degree.

> > >

> > > Honestly speaking I find no influence of these so called Kala or

> > > Sarpa or their Yoga influencing the lagna/ lagna lord, moon,

> moonsign

> > > lord, mahadasa lord and antardasa lord and their signlords also.

> > >

> > > Even you are not born in any of the constellations of Rahu/ketu.

> > >

> > > So when there is not a single trace of influence of this

> Rahu/Ketu is

> > > (are) available in the natal chart, mahadasa and antardasa lord

> how

> > > comes this Kala Sarpa Yoga ?

> > >

> > > Why do pooja or Shanti for a Yoga that does not exists in your

> > > horoscope ?

> > >

> > > Both prescribing and doing wrong remedial measures is a sheer

> wastage

> > > of time ( Sorry people prescribing blanket remedies do not go for

> > > real analysis of chart hence save the time ! )and money and in the

> > > long run results in bad name to astrology and astrologers.

> > >

> > > A lot of people come to me saying " Sir, we have performed all the

> > > remedial measures for Kal Sarp Dosh and Sade sati etc. repeatedly

> by

> > > different Brahmins at different places...still our problem/

> suffering

> > > are not over. Plz guide us correctly and tell us honestly if ever

> > > astrology works or not ? "

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > 09811971190

> > > (Consultation out of group is not free)

> > >

> > > > mail_manu_unam <mail_manu_unam@ ...>

> > > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > Thursday, 19 February, 2009 11:40:22 PM

> > > > Kaal Sarp Yoga - Remedy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Someone saw my birth details & told that I have Kaal Sarp Yoga &

> > > that

> > > > is the reason why I always receive less than expected results

> for

> > > > anything that I do.

> > > >

> > > > My details:

> > > > DOB : 5th July 1976

> > > > Time Of Birth: 1:25 pm

> > > > Place of Birth: New Delhi, Delhi, India

> > > > Gender: Male

> > > >

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