Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade Sati- fit it where you need- why work hard analysing ?

February 19, 2009

Dear friends,

Kalsarpa Yoga- How to test its existence ?

Even if you some of us are still in doubt regarding the existence or

non-existence.

Here is the simple way to test it for yourselves.

Note down case of Kalsarpa yoga.

See if the house were nodes(Rahu/ Ketu) are placed are quite

strong,and house lords

(1) are well placed from lagna and moon and

(2)not afflicted by natural or functional malefics

(3) not suffering from any weakness of debilition, rasi sandhi , papa-

madhya , combustion or having their rasi, navamsa and strlords very

weak for obvious reasons

(4) nor suffering from kemadruma yoga like moon (i.e. both 12th and 2nd

house or lords are weak

I have not yet come against single case of so called Kalsarpa Yoga

where the sign, navamsa and stellar dispositors of Rahu and Ketu are

quite strong and the native has suffered bad luck !

It is surprising to find that the same level of aristocracy and

hyprocrisy exists in the kingdom of planets ! Servants Rah/Ketu/Saturn

are still unnecessarily blamed for all the misdeeds of their Masters

having no fault of thier own.

Sun is the king...hence can not commit any mistake !

Moon is the king consort...so mistake is unthinkable of her also!

Mars being the commander in chief...people are afraid of pointing his

mistakes ! He is only accused of taking away other people's wives (

Mangal Dosha)!

Jupiter and venus are the Deva and Asura Guru...so how wrong can be

done by the greatest of teachers !

So all blames must come to helpless servants...Rahu, Ketu and Servant!

If we start beliving heresay such as Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade Sati then

what is the difference between scientific study of jyotish and rank

laziness avoid thorough analysis of the horoscope ?

The difference lies not in the nomenclature but our approach and

attitude towards jyotish as honest and hardworking astrologers.

With regards and best wishes,

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

09811971190

(Consultancy out of the group is not free)

February 20, 2009

Dear Shri Tripathy Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Thanks for writing the situations of Graha where a Kaal Sarp Yog can

be identified.

I don't know how far it is true that its simplest identification is

that when all Graha are placed between Raahu and Ketu, the this Kaal

Sarp Yog should be taken into consideration.

I am a very old woman but till now nobody told me about Kaal Sarp

Dosh. So I did not do anything. Just a few months ago after reading

the above identification I came to know that " Oh, I have a Kaal Sarp

Yog. " But as astrologers frighten the other people I did not

experience any extreme condition which I could assign to KSY.

Another time I read that it affects progeny, but by God's grace I

have two chldren and both are all right. Do you think that KSY

affects chidren's life also? Because my childrn are not as happy as

they should be. So do you think that it is the affect of KSY?

Only about four months I did the remedy for it.

With best regards

Sushma

, " Mrutyunjay Tripathy "

<astrologer_mrutyunjay wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Kalsarpa Yoga- How to test its existence ?

>

> Even if you some of us are still in doubt regarding the existence

or

> non-existence.

>

> Here is the simple way to test it for yourselves.

>

> Note down case of Kalsarpa yoga.

>

> See if the house were nodes(Rahu/ Ketu) are placed are quite

> strong,and house lords

>

> (1) are well placed from lagna and moon and

>

> (2)not afflicted by natural or functional malefics

>

> (3) not suffering from any weakness of debilition, rasi sandhi ,

papa-

> madhya , combustion or having their rasi, navamsa and strlords very

> weak for obvious reasons

>

> (4) nor suffering from kemadruma yoga like moon (i.e. both 12th and

2nd

> house or lords are weak

>

> I have not yet come against single case of so called Kalsarpa Yoga

> where the sign, navamsa and stellar dispositors of Rahu and Ketu

are

> quite strong and the native has suffered bad luck !

>

> It is surprising to find that the same level of aristocracy and

> hyprocrisy exists in the kingdom of planets ! Servants

Rah/Ketu/Saturn

> are still unnecessarily blamed for all the misdeeds of their

Masters

> having no fault of thier own.

>

> Sun is the king...hence can not commit any mistake !

> Moon is the king consort...so mistake is unthinkable of her also!

> Mars being the commander in chief...people are afraid of pointing

his

> mistakes ! He is only accused of taking away other people's wives (

> Mangal Dosha)!

> Jupiter and venus are the Deva and Asura Guru...so how wrong can be

> done by the greatest of teachers !

>

> So all blames must come to helpless servants...Rahu, Ketu and

Servant!

>

> If we start beliving heresay such as Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade Sati

then

> what is the difference between scientific study of jyotish and rank

> laziness avoid thorough analysis of the horoscope ?

>

> The difference lies not in the nomenclature but our approach and

> attitude towards jyotish as honest and hardworking astrologers.

>

> With regards and best wishes,

>

> Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> 09811971190

> (Consultancy out of the group is not free)

>

February 20, 2009

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Sushmaji,

If you want to know the result of Kaal Sarpa Yoga in your chart, just

tell the Kaal Sarpa Yogi the problem---that problem is sure due to Kal

Sarpa Yoga, & get ready to shed some money on remedies, if you wish.

If you have no problems, you can invite them by visiting the Kaal

Sarpa Yogi--he will find the problems & give some suggestive remedies!!!

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro.150m.com

, " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Tripathy Ji

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> Thanks for writing the situations of Graha where a Kaal Sarp Yog can

> be identified.

>

> I don't know how far it is true that its simplest identification is

> that when all Graha are placed between Raahu and Ketu, the this Kaal

> Sarp Yog should be taken into consideration.

>

> I am a very old woman but till now nobody told me about Kaal Sarp

> Dosh. So I did not do anything. Just a few months ago after reading

> the above identification I came to know that " Oh, I have a Kaal Sarp

> Yog. " But as astrologers frighten the other people I did not

> experience any extreme condition which I could assign to KSY.

>

> Another time I read that it affects progeny, but by God's grace I

> have two chldren and both are all right. Do you think that KSY

> affects chidren's life also? Because my childrn are not as happy as

> they should be. So do you think that it is the affect of KSY?

>

> Only about four months I did the remedy for it.

> With best regards

> Sushma

>

> , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy "

> <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > Kalsarpa Yoga- How to test its existence ?

> >

> > Even if you some of us are still in doubt regarding the existence

> or

> > non-existence.

> >

> > Here is the simple way to test it for yourselves.

> >

> > Note down case of Kalsarpa yoga.

> >

> > See if the house were nodes(Rahu/ Ketu) are placed are quite

> > strong,and house lords

> >

> > (1) are well placed from lagna and moon and

> >

> > (2)not afflicted by natural or functional malefics

> >

> > (3) not suffering from any weakness of debilition, rasi sandhi ,

> papa-

> > madhya , combustion or having their rasi, navamsa and strlords very

> > weak for obvious reasons

> >

> > (4) nor suffering from kemadruma yoga like moon (i.e. both 12th and

> 2nd

> > house or lords are weak

> >

> > I have not yet come against single case of so called Kalsarpa Yoga

> > where the sign, navamsa and stellar dispositors of Rahu and Ketu

> are

> > quite strong and the native has suffered bad luck !

> >

> > It is surprising to find that the same level of aristocracy and

> > hyprocrisy exists in the kingdom of planets ! Servants

> Rah/Ketu/Saturn

> > are still unnecessarily blamed for all the misdeeds of their

> Masters

> > having no fault of thier own.

> >

> > Sun is the king...hence can not commit any mistake !

> > Moon is the king consort...so mistake is unthinkable of her also!

> > Mars being the commander in chief...people are afraid of pointing

> his

> > mistakes ! He is only accused of taking away other people's wives (

> > Mangal Dosha)!

> > Jupiter and venus are the Deva and Asura Guru...so how wrong can be

> > done by the greatest of teachers !

> >

> > So all blames must come to helpless servants...Rahu, Ketu and

> Servant!

> >

> > If we start beliving heresay such as Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade Sati

> then

> > what is the difference between scientific study of jyotish and rank

> > laziness avoid thorough analysis of the horoscope ?

> >

> > The difference lies not in the nomenclature but our approach and

> > attitude towards jyotish as honest and hardworking astrologers.

> >

> > With regards and best wishes,

> >

> > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > 09811971190

> > (Consultancy out of the group is not free)

> >

>

February 20, 2009

What I am curious about, Gaurav, is that this menace of kaliyuga,

Kala Sarpa Yoga was named a yoga and not an arishta or dosha! There

must be a hidden mystic meaning in that because astrology scholars,

being perfect as they are, never make an error when they are naming

something or someone ;-)

What do you think?

RR

, " "

<gaurav.ghosh wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Sushmaji,

> If you want to know the result of Kaal Sarpa Yoga in your chart,

just

> tell the Kaal Sarpa Yogi the problem---that problem is sure due to

Kal

> Sarpa Yoga, & get ready to shed some money on remedies, if you wish.

> If you have no problems, you can invite them by visiting the Kaal

> Sarpa Yogi--he will find the problems & give some suggestive

remedies!!!

> Thank you,

> .

> http://gauravastro.150m.com

>

> , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Tripathy Ji

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > Thanks for writing the situations of Graha where a Kaal Sarp Yog

can

> > be identified.

> >

> > I don't know how far it is true that its simplest identification

is

> > that when all Graha are placed between Raahu and Ketu, the this

Kaal

> > Sarp Yog should be taken into consideration.

> >

> > I am a very old woman but till now nobody told me about Kaal Sarp

> > Dosh. So I did not do anything. Just a few months ago after

reading

> > the above identification I came to know that " Oh, I have a Kaal

Sarp

> > Yog. " But as astrologers frighten the other people I did not

> > experience any extreme condition which I could assign to KSY.

> >

> > Another time I read that it affects progeny, but by God's grace I

> > have two chldren and both are all right. Do you think that KSY

> > affects chidren's life also? Because my childrn are not as happy

as

> > they should be. So do you think that it is the affect of KSY?

> >

> > Only about four months I did the remedy for it.

> > With best regards

> > Sushma

> >

> > , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy "

> > <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > Kalsarpa Yoga- How to test its existence ?

> > >

> > > Even if you some of us are still in doubt regarding the

existence

> > or

> > > non-existence.

> > >

> > > Here is the simple way to test it for yourselves.

> > >

> > > Note down case of Kalsarpa yoga.

> > >

> > > See if the house were nodes(Rahu/ Ketu) are placed are quite

> > > strong,and house lords

> > >

> > > (1) are well placed from lagna and moon and

> > >

> > > (2)not afflicted by natural or functional malefics

> > >

> > > (3) not suffering from any weakness of debilition, rasi

sandhi ,

> > papa-

> > > madhya , combustion or having their rasi, navamsa and strlords

very

> > > weak for obvious reasons

> > >

> > > (4) nor suffering from kemadruma yoga like moon (i.e. both 12th

and

> > 2nd

> > > house or lords are weak

> > >

> > > I have not yet come against single case of so called Kalsarpa

Yoga

> > > where the sign, navamsa and stellar dispositors of Rahu and

Ketu

> > are

> > > quite strong and the native has suffered bad luck !

> > >

> > > It is surprising to find that the same level of aristocracy and

> > > hyprocrisy exists in the kingdom of planets ! Servants

> > Rah/Ketu/Saturn

> > > are still unnecessarily blamed for all the misdeeds of their

> > Masters

> > > having no fault of thier own.

> > >

> > > Sun is the king...hence can not commit any mistake !

> > > Moon is the king consort...so mistake is unthinkable of her

also!

> > > Mars being the commander in chief...people are afraid of

pointing

> > his

> > > mistakes ! He is only accused of taking away other people's

wives (

> > > Mangal Dosha)!

> > > Jupiter and venus are the Deva and Asura Guru...so how wrong

can be

> > > done by the greatest of teachers !

> > >

> > > So all blames must come to helpless servants...Rahu, Ketu and

> > Servant!

> > >

> > > If we start beliving heresay such as Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade

Sati

> > then

> > > what is the difference between scientific study of jyotish and

rank

> > > laziness avoid thorough analysis of the horoscope ?

> > >

> > > The difference lies not in the nomenclature but our approach

and

> > > attitude towards jyotish as honest and hardworking astrologers.

> > >

> > > With regards and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > 09811971190

> > > (Consultancy out of the group is not free)

> > >

> >

>

February 20, 2009

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear RRji,

Certainly..I agree with you.Personally I think, if this Yoga has to

exist, since the old days of Parasara...then the result must be like

love-n-hate relationship within the native.

Rahu denotes the greed within us--he is thirsty to have the divine

nectar, so that he can enjoy the immortal bliss--he is like that

snake, who has come out of his hole, to quench his thirst, to satisfy

his hunger.

While Ketu is that snake---who is somewhat like snake, who is in

*sleeping mode* during the chilly winter. He is lazy, doesn't want to

disturb anyone, is satisfied within himself, loves solitude, loves to

live alone, dont want any external factors to be involved for his

living, if he gets to eat, or if someone brings anything for him, he

will eat, else " Almighty " will prepare his food & send it to him,

through any means etc.

If the Nodes are " so powerful " , that they can control the rest of the

seven, then certainly it will result in some love-n-hate

relationship, obviously to personal matters.

As far as I remember, this term was coined by late R.Gopalkrishna Row

(Meena) in his book " Nadi Jyotish " or Stellar Astrology(not the other

mumbo-jumbo, who wrote the book " Bhrigu Nandi Nadi) & it all started

from the South India, specially Triplicane in Chennai & subsequently

it spread. You must be knowing that in classics, like BPHS, Brihat

Jatakam,Jataka Parijata mentions about " Sarpa Yoga " --if the quadrants

are *filled by malefics* from lagna, barring, Ra-Ke. Varahamihira even

doesn't mention about the nodes, & this yoga is to bring misery, ill

luck etc.

Again, here, yoga doesn't mean something that is positive in nature,it

may be negative, it may be positive, as this means combination.

Later Late P.S.Sastri quoted from a text, of course without any source

in A.M. 1969 about Kalsarpa Yoga.(if i remember correct!!)

" Agre rahuh ante ketuh,

Sarve Madhya gata graham,

Yogam Kalasarpakhyam,

Nripa Shasya Vinasanam "

---All planets are hemmed within the nodes, this combination " or Yoga "

is known as KSY, which results in loss of grains & destruction of the

king(now it being the people, who are in power).

Certainly, it has nothing to do with natal astrology, as the native is

not a king of the country, nor he possesses loads n loads of

grains-this combination is for Mundane Astrology & has been used by

Late Dr.B.V.Raman while making the world predictions.

Later know that Late B.V.Raman also admitted that such yogas dont

exist in classical astrology & also has no relevance in natal horoscopy.

Dada, so far so good.Let them use it, I have no issues, as neither I

am gaining financially, nor I am losing anything. I am ready to accept

this yoga is open mind, provided the " kal sarpa yogis " can prove that

all people having such Yoga must suffer throughout their life.

Problem lies, when the Kaal Sarpa Yogis cant prove anything, they will

term it as " Kaal Amrita Yoga " --which is utter non-sense & baseless.

When this single yoga has so much confusion than the Sarp Yoga itself

or rather than the variations of Raj Yoga, then why to use it as a

tool, to predict ones future?This combination is very simple---all

planets within Rahu & Ketu--Fine.

Now all these " K.S. Yogis " are confused on what is the right

one??Should the lagna be also considered or not? Shall I see upto the

degrees of the nodes?Shall we consider Partial KSY be considered or

not & such endless questions.....

Then follows the list of remedies & Shree Kunal Mehta has been honest

to tell that he has performed Pujas at Kalahasti Temple(the

" Brahmastra " considered by the Kal Sarpa Yogis for remedies from this

ominous combination) & Narayan Naag Bali at Tryambakeshwar temple(Yes,

I have seen people performing this during my trip to Tryambakeshwar

Temple in Nasik, last year)but without any results...

As again...my fav author says, here is the astrologer, ever busy in

recommending his remedies.

To add more, " We had Karmakanda & Jnanakanda in the previous, but in

this Kaliyuga, a new kanda, which is not for any spiritual progress or

anything...

It is called the FRAUDKANDA!!! "

Thank you,

.

P.S: Interested readers, when have time to sit in front of the net,

may read about KSY from my website, the links are:-

http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/ksy2.html

http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/ksy1.html

http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles/ksy.html

It doesn't cost any money to read those articles, but some time...

Thank you,

Gaurav.

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> What I am curious about, Gaurav, is that this menace of kaliyuga,

> Kala Sarpa Yoga was named a yoga and not an arishta or dosha! There

> must be a hidden mystic meaning in that because astrology scholars,

> being perfect as they are, never make an error when they are naming

> something or someone ;-)

>

> What do you think?

>

> RR

>

> , " "

> <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> > Dear Sushmaji,

> > If you want to know the result of Kaal Sarpa Yoga in your chart,

> just

> > tell the Kaal Sarpa Yogi the problem---that problem is sure due to

> Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga, & get ready to shed some money on remedies, if you wish.

> > If you have no problems, you can invite them by visiting the Kaal

> > Sarpa Yogi--he will find the problems & give some suggestive

> remedies!!!

> > Thank you,

> > .

> > http://gauravastro.150m.com

> >

> > , " bhagvatjee " <bhagvatjee@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Tripathy Ji

> > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > > Thanks for writing the situations of Graha where a Kaal Sarp Yog

> can

> > > be identified.

> > >

> > > I don't know how far it is true that its simplest identification

> is

> > > that when all Graha are placed between Raahu and Ketu, the this

> Kaal

> > > Sarp Yog should be taken into consideration.

> > >

> > > I am a very old woman but till now nobody told me about Kaal Sarp

> > > Dosh. So I did not do anything. Just a few months ago after

> reading

> > > the above identification I came to know that " Oh, I have a Kaal

> Sarp

> > > Yog. " But as astrologers frighten the other people I did not

> > > experience any extreme condition which I could assign to KSY.

> > >

> > > Another time I read that it affects progeny, but by God's grace I

> > > have two chldren and both are all right. Do you think that KSY

> > > affects chidren's life also? Because my childrn are not as happy

> as

> > > they should be. So do you think that it is the affect of KSY?

> > >

> > > Only about four months I did the remedy for it.

> > > With best regards

> > > Sushma

> > >

> > > , " Mrutyunjay Tripathy "

> > > <astrologer_mrutyunjay@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > Kalsarpa Yoga- How to test its existence ?

> > > >

> > > > Even if you some of us are still in doubt regarding the

> existence

> > > or

> > > > non-existence.

> > > >

> > > > Here is the simple way to test it for yourselves.

> > > >

> > > > Note down case of Kalsarpa yoga.

> > > >

> > > > See if the house were nodes(Rahu/ Ketu) are placed are quite

> > > > strong,and house lords

> > > >

> > > > (1) are well placed from lagna and moon and

> > > >

> > > > (2)not afflicted by natural or functional malefics

> > > >

> > > > (3) not suffering from any weakness of debilition, rasi

> sandhi ,

> > > papa-

> > > > madhya , combustion or having their rasi, navamsa and strlords

> very

> > > > weak for obvious reasons

> > > >

> > > > (4) nor suffering from kemadruma yoga like moon (i.e. both 12th

> and

> > > 2nd

> > > > house or lords are weak

> > > >

> > > > I have not yet come against single case of so called Kalsarpa

> Yoga

> > > > where the sign, navamsa and stellar dispositors of Rahu and

> Ketu

> > > are

> > > > quite strong and the native has suffered bad luck !

> > > >

> > > > It is surprising to find that the same level of aristocracy and

> > > > hyprocrisy exists in the kingdom of planets ! Servants

> > > Rah/Ketu/Saturn

> > > > are still unnecessarily blamed for all the misdeeds of their

> > > Masters

> > > > having no fault of thier own.

> > > >

> > > > Sun is the king...hence can not commit any mistake !

> > > > Moon is the king consort...so mistake is unthinkable of her

> also!

> > > > Mars being the commander in chief...people are afraid of

> pointing

> > > his

> > > > mistakes ! He is only accused of taking away other people's

> wives (

> > > > Mangal Dosha)!

> > > > Jupiter and venus are the Deva and Asura Guru...so how wrong

> can be

> > > > done by the greatest of teachers !

> > > >

> > > > So all blames must come to helpless servants...Rahu, Ketu and

> > > Servant!

> > > >

> > > > If we start beliving heresay such as Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade

> Sati

> > > then

> > > > what is the difference between scientific study of jyotish and

> rank

> > > > laziness avoid thorough analysis of the horoscope ?

> > > >

> > > > The difference lies not in the nomenclature but our approach

> and

> > > > attitude towards jyotish as honest and hardworking astrologers.

> > > >

> > > > With regards and best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Mrutyunjay Tripathy

> > > > 09811971190

> > > > (Consultancy out of the group is not free)

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 20, 2009

KSY AFFECTS THOSE HOUSES WHICH ARE TRAPPED BETWEEN RAHU AND KETU AND NOT THOSE

WHO ARE OUT OF IT FURTHER MORE IF RAHU IN 10 TH AND KETU IN 4 TH AND GRAHA ARE

IN ABOVE HOUSES NO EFFECT AS NO GRAHA ARE THERE WHO ENTERS RAHU MOUTH

--- On Fri, 20/2/09, bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee wrote:

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

Re: Kal Sarpa Yoga and Sade Sati- " fit it where you need- why work

hard analysing ?

Friday, 20 February, 2009, 8:40 PM