Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dasgupta, Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart & see it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? I think it would be really great.!! Thank you, . , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear all, > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > Look at the problems in following order. > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned below. > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving hardship, unless remedy is done. > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the delivery of the curse. > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. I have got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with Ketu, and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti etc. Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 year, but still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > Dear All > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha is on, due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All Ksy do not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due to KSY whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases the other departments of life like marital life or family relationship or poor health gets affected.. > > > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > ________________________________ > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123 > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in the lay person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my experience the Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , though they can be param marakas. > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker to be more discerning. > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > Take care > Vats > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > Bhora, > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on this, I am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he said it is blind faith > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct rahu kalam pujas specially > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > and many temples in the North > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given by scriptures though > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we must do anyway. > > prashant > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > Dear Prashant jee, > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and formation > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > confirmed these Yoga? > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a Guru.Old > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to search > able Guru. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Bhora, > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE and > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND IT IS > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS WORKS. > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX IT ON > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no problem but > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it confidently > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile being > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called me to > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is seeing > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand daughter > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to meet his > commitment. > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am using > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have given most > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two were > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them by BV > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find many > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu have, > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to exhibit > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > Physical existence. > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by experiences of > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > knowledge in every field. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all applicabe > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM for so > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most time wwa > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite early, he > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. some > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results again > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > words, works seriously > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' survival > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN RAO ji > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which contribute to > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart before any > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect each others > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If you have > > > than please share it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in astrology KSY, > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp his WW1 > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less qualified > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from fear > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again depending on > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive weak fall > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, teacher, > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange situation with > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his Ardha > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end as he was > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the ecconomoci > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan singh in > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time to lifft > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in history, but > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in the right > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced enough > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating Yogas of > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki sadesathi " .Natives > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and they are > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own reasons > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology and there > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of Saturn,from 12th > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > comes in > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not find any > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason of bad > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn only,but fear > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of Sadesati. > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in between the > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our great > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as " Kal Sarp > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this Rahu and > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and > benefice > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some money > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 form > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd house as > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all planets comes > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they said it > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types of KSY. > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type > of yoga > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other result than > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga and each > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will become 288 > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 it will > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all Yogas? > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes to us > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where than our > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal experiences and > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , " " > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is gandanta. > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house from Lagna. > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence was Ketu, > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position in D-6 > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house. > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why > > couldn't > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone through > > the MD > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not able > > to see > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually in the > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive planet, being > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > auspicious.If > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall in 12th > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika Yoga). > > There > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven > > planets > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > play(reference > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn > > exalted in > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would > > > > > function. One > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right > > > from the > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the > > yoga to > > > > > start > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The > > > > chart has > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu > > > > matures. > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will > > > > bind a > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic > than KSY > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). > > > This is > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by > > > graha > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is > > hard to > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) > > > > Sun and > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > suffering is > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of > spinal > > > > > cord in > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > incidents, we > > > > > may break > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > Prashant > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > experience if u > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa > is not > > > > > on so no > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and > > sani on > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, development > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH > IN d9 > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > chandra > > > > with > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many > > more > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > differ > > > > > from > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > > > > > posting to > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > > unknown > > > > > folder. > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life > > > > Member > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > Bangalore, > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have > > been a > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But > > > KSY has > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > person from > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 > > > planets > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > crippled all > > > > > > the > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is > > > > only 2 > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 15.9.1947 15:57 Kolkata On Behalf Of Monday, January 19, 2009 1:04 PM Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dasgupta, Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart & see it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? I think it would be really great.!! Thank you, . , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear all, > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > Look at the problems in following order. > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned below. > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving hardship, unless remedy is done. > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the delivery of the curse. > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. I have got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with Ketu, and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti etc. Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 year, but still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > Dear All > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha is on, due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All Ksy do not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due to KSY whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases the other departments of life like marital life or family relationship or poor health gets affected.. > > > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > ________________________________ > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123 > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in the lay person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my experience the Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , though they can be param marakas. > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker to be more discerning. > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > Take care > Vats > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > Bhora, > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on this, I am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he said it is blind faith > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct rahu kalam pujas specially > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > and many temples in the North > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given by scriptures though > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we must do anyway. > > prashant > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > Dear Prashant jee, > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and formation > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > confirmed these Yoga? > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a Guru.Old > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to search > able Guru. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Bhora, > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE and > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND IT IS > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS WORKS. > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX IT ON > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no problem but > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it confidently > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile being > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called me to > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is seeing > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand daughter > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to meet his > commitment. > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am using > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have given most > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two were > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them by BV > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find many > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu have, > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to exhibit > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > Physical existence. > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by experiences of > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > knowledge in every field. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all applicabe > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM for so > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most time wwa > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite early, he > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. some > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results again > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > words, works seriously > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' survival > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN RAO ji > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which contribute to > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart before any > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect each others > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If you have > > > than please share it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in astrology KSY, > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp his WW1 > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less qualified > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from fear > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again depending on > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive weak fall > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, teacher, > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange situation with > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his Ardha > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end as he was > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the ecconomoci > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan singh in > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time to lifft > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in history, but > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in the right > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced enough > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating Yogas of > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki sadesathi " .Natives > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and they are > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own reasons > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology and there > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of Saturn,from 12th > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > comes in > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not find any > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason of bad > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn only,but fear > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of Sadesati. > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in between the > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our great > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as " Kal Sarp > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this Rahu and > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and > benefice > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some money > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 form > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd house as > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all planets comes > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they said it > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types of KSY. > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type > of yoga > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other result than > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga and each > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will become 288 > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 it will > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all Yogas? > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes to us > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where than our > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal experiences and > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , " " > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is gandanta. > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house from Lagna. > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence was Ketu, > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position in D-6 > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house. > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why > > couldn't > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone through > > the MD > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not able > > to see > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually in the > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive planet, being > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > auspicious.If > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall in 12th > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika Yoga). > > There > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven > > planets > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > play(reference > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn > > exalted in > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would > > > > > function. One > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right > > > from the > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the > > yoga to > > > > > start > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The > > > > chart has > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu > > > > matures. > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will > > > > bind a > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic > than KSY > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). > > > This is > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by > > > graha > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is > > hard to > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) > > > > Sun and > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > suffering is > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of > spinal > > > > > cord in > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > incidents, we > > > > > may break > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > Prashant > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > experience if u > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa > is not > > > > > on so no > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and > > sani on > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, development > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH > IN d9 > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > chandra > > > > with > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many > > more > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > differ > > > > > from > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > > > > > posting to > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > > unknown > > > > > folder. > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life > > > > Member > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > Bangalore, > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have > > been a > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But > > > KSY has > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > person from > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 > > > planets > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > crippled all > > > > > > the > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is > > > > only 2 > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dasgupta, My Observations about your chart. 1)Lagna is Capricorn, with Lagna lord aspecting the Lagna. This is good. This means the native will have a late rise in his life, Saturn being a planet of delays, not denials. Even the scriptures Saturn as giver of authority. Specially, when Saturn is well disposed, aspected by functional benefics, occupies own Navamsha, is said to give good results.You may stay away from your natal place as well. 2)Both Saturn,Rahu & Mars aspect the 10th lord, Venus, who is combusted however. This indicates some form of foreign connections in terms of career.Professions related to metals, engineering or even computers cannot be brushed aside, like import-export. Moon in Virgo with Mercury,aspected by Mars, in 6th house, an indication of being into business.I dont whether I am right or wrong. Venus is in Saturn's Navamsha, it being an earthy sign, & also saturn's sign, jobs may be related to ruf-n-tuf things. 3)Venus, mercury & moon aspect the 3rd house---Venus also happens to be the 5th lord however. This will give the native a habit of writing, appreciating Arts etc.However, writings will be controversial/contradictory. 4)Sun is Yogi planet for the native, who is in own house, but in 8th house. Added to that Sun is in own star. This means results of Sun will be of reduced good. 5)5th house has Rahu in it, while Rahu is also there in 9th house from Moon. This is good, indicates some form of Kali Bhakti, which can lead to increased Bhakti towards the God of the native's like during the dasa. 6)Venus, lord of 10th house is combusted & aspected by Mars & Saturn--two natural malefics. It doesn't allow the native to sit back & relax.Either mental tension or physical hardwork. It is also not favourable for a married life. Now Dasa Sequence. For this native, it was like this:- Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter & Presently Saturn. Sun falls in 22nd Drekkana, which is not auspicious for sound health in Sun's period & Sub-periods. The native may have an elder sibling(probably an elder brother) & a sister after the native's birth, death of a co-born is another possibility. Moon MD was normal with some distractions, in studies,with some health issues like fever, cough & cold,even chest related issues. Mars MD was also bad for health.Mars with Lord of 64th Navamsha(in Navamsha) & also aspected by lord of 64th Navamsha(Jupiter) in Rashi & given the time of birth is correct, some setbacks in education. Rahu MD was stressful, financially, as whatever was being earned, most of them were being spent.This time also indicates of making a career. But not successful though,as there were disappointments.I wouldn't comment much on health, as you it better than me.Probably, you also suffered from eye problems during this time. However, during this dasa period, when you were around 29-30 yrs, you had to face a toughtime, some death in the family etc. Jupiter MD was not at all good for career.3rd lord & 12th lord in own Nakshatra in 10th house is not good at all for career.In this dasa, the effort that you put on your work, was not yielding much results, even you couldn't control your expenses.Things turned better, when you were around 43, before which money was literally flowing out, & quite sudden expenses. Sat MD took over in 2000.At the onset of the dasa beginning, some wealth must have come in, as Rahu touched bhrigu-bindu earlier, while Jupiter touched natal rahu & before which Jup-Saturn were aspecting the natal 10th house. However, Saturn Dasa overall is above average. This a humble attempt to read your chart. Let me know your feedback. Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > 15.9.1947 > 15:57 > Kolkata > > > > On Behalf Of > Monday, January 19, 2009 1:04 PM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers > like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart & see > it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? > I think it would be really great.!! > Thank you, > . > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > > > Look at the problems in following order. > > > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then > remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned below. > > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly > work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the > planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving > hardship, unless remedy is done. > > > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the > delivery of the curse. > > > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. I have > got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with Ketu, > and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti etc. > Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 year, but > still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my > business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after > starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) > Nathani > > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear All > > > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed > astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is > suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha is on, > due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what > reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of > KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All Ksy do > not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, > health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It > all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, > it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The > astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due to KSY > whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on > what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to > ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that > astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and > then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases > the other departments of life like marital life or family relationship > or poor health gets affected.. > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > CELL +919867214103 > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > ________________________________ > > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123@> > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by > some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in the lay > person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my experience the > Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the > rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , though > they can be param marakas. > > > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn > and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker to be > more discerning. > > > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on > Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > > Take care > > Vats > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > Bhora, > > > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is > said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp > Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on this, I > am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he > said it is blind faith > > > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than > astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the > latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct > rahu kalam pujas specially > > > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 > WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, > sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > > and many temples in the North > > > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given > by scriptures though > > > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we > must do anyway. > > > > prashant > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and formation > > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > > confirmed these Yoga? > > > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a Guru.Old > > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to search > > able Guru. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE and > > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND IT IS > > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS WORKS. > > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX IT ON > > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no problem but > > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it confidently > > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile being > > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called me to > > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is seeing > > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand daughter > > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to meet his > > commitment. > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am > using > > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have given most > > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two were > > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them > by BV > > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find > many > > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu > have, > > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to exhibit > > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > > Physical existence. > > > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by experiences of > > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > > knowledge in every field. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all applicabe > > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM > for so > > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most time wwa > > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite early, he > > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. > some > > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results > again > > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > > words, works seriously > > > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' > survival > > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN RAO ji > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which > contribute to > > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart > before any > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect > each others > > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If > you have > > > > than please share it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in > astrology KSY, > > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp > his WW1 > > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less > qualified > > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from > fear > > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again > depending on > > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive > weak fall > > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, > teacher, > > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange situation with > > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his > Ardha > > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end > as he was > > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the ecconomoci > > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan > singh in > > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time > to lifft > > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, > > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in > history, but > > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in > the right > > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced > enough > > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > differ > > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > while > > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > provide > > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > Lagna/rasi > > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my > > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for > > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating > Yogas of > > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki > sadesathi " .Natives > > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and > they are > > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own > reasons > > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology > and there > > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of > Saturn,from 12th > > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > > comes in > > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not > find any > > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason > of bad > > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn > only,but fear > > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of > Sadesati. > > > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in > between the > > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our great > > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as > " Kal Sarp > > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this > Rahu and > > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and > > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and > > benefice > > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some money > > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 form > > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd > house as > > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all > planets comes > > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they > said it > > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types > of KSY. > > > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type > > of yoga > > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other > result than > > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga > and each > > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will > become 288 > > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 it will > > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all Yogas? > > > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes > to us > > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where than our > > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal experiences and > > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > , " " > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is > gandanta. > > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house > from Lagna. > > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is > combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence > was Ketu, > > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position > in D-6 > > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house. > > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why > > > couldn't > > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone > through > > > the MD > > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not > able > > > to see > > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually > in the > > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive > planet, being > > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > > auspicious.If > > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall > in 12th > > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika > Yoga). > > > There > > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven > > > planets > > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > > play(reference > > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn > > > exalted in > > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one > would > > > > > > function. One > > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start > right > > > > from the > > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the > > > yoga to > > > > > > start > > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in > curses. The > > > > > chart has > > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, > when Rahu > > > > > matures. > > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. > This will > > > > > bind a > > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic > > than KSY > > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni > rashi). > > > > This is > > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and > Rahu by > > > > graha > > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is > > > hard to > > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa > > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins > atmakaraka (AK) > > > > > Sun and > > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > > suffering is > > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the > house of > > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana > for this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in > 8H and > > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of > > spinal > > > > > > cord in > > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > > incidents, we > > > > > > may break > > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > > Prashant > > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > > experience if u > > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa > > is not > > > > > > on so no > > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and > > > sani on > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH > > IN d9 > > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > > chandra > > > > > with > > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works > gives many > > > more > > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > > differ > > > > > > from > > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > while > > > > > > posting to > > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > provide a > > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > > > unknown > > > > > > folder. > > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant > Kumar Life > > > > > Member > > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > > Bangalore, > > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have > > > been a > > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But > > > > KSY has > > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > > person from > > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 > > > > planets > > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > > crippled all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental > age is > > > > > only 2 > > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Excellent. Yes, I am an civil engineer, have my own consultancy firm in Mumbai. But you have missed a major point in my chart. The tiring KAY - which almost binded me till 47 years of age. It keeps on tormenting me still by blocking income. Ketu is the focal point and it is in 11H. rahu MD was best for me till now. Rahu in ayur exaltation in 5H. It has given me name, fame, acknowlegment society during its time. Jup is my AK. During Jup dasa it has given me spirituality. Rahu in 5H also has given me Durga bhakti, not Kali. Rahu denotes Durga. Kali is denoted by Saturn. These dieties are well mentioned in Prashna Marga and also by Parasara for all planets. Anybody sits in 5H, one has to worship the devi form of that planet, for prosperity. And when the 5H planet becomes favourable, there is no better friend than it. Rahu in 5H also has given me interest and knowledge in mantra shastra At the start of Jup MD - I came in came in contact with Swami Chinmayananda and learned Upanishads & Geeta directly at his feet. This changed my life and made me stronger for the crisis in life later. Yes, Jup period made problem in my career - as AK is sitting in 10H. Look that Jup is 3L & 12L and in kendra. This is a VRY. For VRY in kendra the planet has to be very strong and must have connection with lagna lord or AK to transfer the benefit to the native by fall of somebody else. Here Jup himself is AK and has no connection with lagna lord. I am not very sure, my boss resigned in Jup-Ven dasa and I also had to resign due to internal company politics. Then I opted for business. Lagna lord in 7H, always like to work independently. Jup-Rahu was worst for me in all respect. Jup-Rahu is always bad in general, where-as Rahu-Jup is always good. But in that dasa only I started learning Astrology seriously. As soon as Saturn dasa strated - my fincial situation started improving gradually. A strong Saturn in 7H, that too in Cancer - has the power to give me rajayoga single handedly during his dasa. But the KAY is creating problem always. I am presently in Sat-Ven. Sat-Ven is not good in general. So presently going through lot of stress on proffessional front. Sun in 8H as 8L has given me good health. 8H is the house of rejuvination. Also see that Mars is virgottama. But as soon as Sat-Ketu started, I was hospitalised for 2 days for the 1st time in my life for high fever and doctors could not make out what was going on. This is badhakesha. after that I got lot of health problems for no reasons. After Ketu sub, now again I am back to normal. On Behalf Of Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:02 PM Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dasgupta, My Observations about your chart. 1)Lagna is Capricorn, with Lagna lord aspecting the Lagna. This is good. This means the native will have a late rise in his life, Saturn being a planet of delays, not denials. Even the scriptures Saturn as giver of authority. Specially, when Saturn is well disposed, aspected by functional benefics, occupies own Navamsha, is said to give good results.You may stay away from your natal place as well. 2)Both Saturn,Rahu & Mars aspect the 10th lord, Venus, who is combusted however. This indicates some form of foreign connections in terms of career.Professions related to metals, engineering or even computers cannot be brushed aside, like import-export. Moon in Virgo with Mercury,aspected by Mars, in 6th house, an indication of being into business.I dont whether I am right or wrong. Venus is in Saturn's Navamsha, it being an earthy sign, & also saturn's sign, jobs may be related to ruf-n-tuf things. 3)Venus, mercury & moon aspect the 3rd house---Venus also happens to be the 5th lord however. This will give the native a habit of writing, appreciating Arts etc.However, writings will be controversial/contradictory. 4)Sun is Yogi planet for the native, who is in own house, but in 8th house. Added to that Sun is in own star. This means results of Sun will be of reduced good. 5)5th house has Rahu in it, while Rahu is also there in 9th house from Moon. This is good, indicates some form of Kali Bhakti, which can lead to increased Bhakti towards the God of the native's like during the dasa. 6)Venus, lord of 10th house is combusted & aspected by Mars & Saturn--two natural malefics. It doesn't allow the native to sit back & relax.Either mental tension or physical hardwork. It is also not favourable for a married life. Now Dasa Sequence. For this native, it was like this:- Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter & Presently Saturn. Sun falls in 22nd Drekkana, which is not auspicious for sound health in Sun's period & Sub-periods. The native may have an elder sibling(probably an elder brother) & a sister after the native's birth, death of a co-born is another possibility. Moon MD was normal with some distractions, in studies,with some health issues like fever, cough & cold,even chest related issues. Mars MD was also bad for health.Mars with Lord of 64th Navamsha(in Navamsha) & also aspected by lord of 64th Navamsha(Jupiter) in Rashi & given the time of birth is correct, some setbacks in education. Rahu MD was stressful, financially, as whatever was being earned, most of them were being spent.This time also indicates of making a career. But not successful though,as there were disappointments.I wouldn't comment much on health, as you it better than me.Probably, you also suffered from eye problems during this time. However, during this dasa period, when you were around 29-30 yrs, you had to face a toughtime, some death in the family etc. Jupiter MD was not at all good for career.3rd lord & 12th lord in own Nakshatra in 10th house is not good at all for career.In this dasa, the effort that you put on your work, was not yielding much results, even you couldn't control your expenses.Things turned better, when you were around 43, before which money was literally flowing out, & quite sudden expenses. Sat MD took over in 2000.At the onset of the dasa beginning, some wealth must have come in, as Rahu touched bhrigu-bindu earlier, while Jupiter touched natal rahu & before which Jup-Saturn were aspecting the natal 10th house. However, Saturn Dasa overall is above average. This a humble attempt to read your chart. Let me know your feedback. Thank you, . http://gauravastro.150m.com , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > 15.9.1947 > 15:57 > Kolkata > > > > On Behalf Of > Monday, January 19, 2009 1:04 PM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers > like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart & see > it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? > I think it would be really great.!! > Thank you, > . > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > > > Look at the problems in following order. > > > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then > remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned below. > > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly > work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the > planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving > hardship, unless remedy is done. > > > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the > delivery of the curse. > > > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. I have > got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with Ketu, > and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti etc. > Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 year, but > still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my > business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after > starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) > Nathani > > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear All > > > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed > astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is > suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha is on, > due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what > reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of > KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All Ksy do > not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, > health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It > all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, > it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The > astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due to KSY > whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on > what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to > ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that > astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and > then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases > the other departments of life like marital life or family relationship > or poor health gets affected.. > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > CELL +919867214103 > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > ________________________________ > > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123@> > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by > some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in the lay > person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my experience the > Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the > rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , though > they can be param marakas. > > > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn > and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker to be > more discerning. > > > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on > Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > > Take care > > Vats > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > Bhora, > > > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is > said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp > Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on this, I > am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he > said it is blind faith > > > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than > astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the > latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct > rahu kalam pujas specially > > > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 > WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, > sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > > and many temples in the North > > > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given > by scriptures though > > > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we > must do anyway. > > > > prashant > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and formation > > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > > confirmed these Yoga? > > > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a Guru.Old > > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to search > > able Guru. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE and > > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND IT IS > > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS WORKS. > > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX IT ON > > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no problem but > > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it confidently > > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile being > > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called me to > > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is seeing > > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand daughter > > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to meet his > > commitment. > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am > using > > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have given most > > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two were > > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them > by BV > > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find > many > > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu > have, > > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to exhibit > > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > > Physical existence. > > > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by experiences of > > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > > knowledge in every field. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all applicabe > > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM > for so > > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most time wwa > > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite early, he > > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. > some > > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results > again > > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > > words, works seriously > > > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' > survival > > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN RAO ji > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which > contribute to > > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart > before any > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect > each others > > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If > you have > > > > than please share it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in > astrology KSY, > > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp > his WW1 > > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less > qualified > > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from > fear > > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again > depending on > > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive > weak fall > > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, > teacher, > > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange situation with > > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his > Ardha > > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end > as he was > > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the ecconomoci > > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan > singh in > > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time > to lifft > > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, > > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in > history, but > > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in > the right > > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced > enough > > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > differ > > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > while > > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > provide > > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > Lagna/rasi > > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my > > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for > > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating > Yogas of > > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki > sadesathi " .Natives > > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and > they are > > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own > reasons > > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology > and there > > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of > Saturn,from 12th > > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > > comes in > > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not > find any > > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason > of bad > > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn > only,but fear > > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of > Sadesati. > > > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in > between the > > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our great > > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as > " Kal Sarp > > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this > Rahu and > > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and > > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and > > benefice > > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some money > > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 form > > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd > house as > > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all > planets comes > > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they > said it > > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types > of KSY. > > > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type > > of yoga > > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other > result than > > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga > and each > > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will > become 288 > > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 it will > > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all Yogas? > > > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes > to us > > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where than our > > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal experiences and > > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > , " " > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is > gandanta. > > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house > from Lagna. > > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is > combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence > was Ketu, > > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position > in D-6 > > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house. > > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why > > > couldn't > > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone > through > > > the MD > > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not > able > > > to see > > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually > in the > > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive > planet, being > > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > > auspicious.If > > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall > in 12th > > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika > Yoga). > > > There > > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven > > > planets > > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > > play(reference > > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn > > > exalted in > > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one > would > > > > > > function. One > > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start > right > > > > from the > > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the > > > yoga to > > > > > > start > > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in > curses. The > > > > > chart has > > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, > when Rahu > > > > > matures. > > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. > This will > > > > > bind a > > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic > > than KSY > > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni > rashi). > > > > This is > > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and > Rahu by > > > > graha > > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is > > > hard to > > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa > > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins > atmakaraka (AK) > > > > > Sun and > > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > > suffering is > > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the > house of > > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana > for this > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in > 8H and > > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of > > spinal > > > > > > cord in > > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > > incidents, we > > > > > > may break > > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > > Prashant > > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > > experience if u > > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa > > is not > > > > > > on so no > > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and > > > sani on > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH > > IN d9 > > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > > chandra > > > > > with > > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works > gives many > > > more > > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > > differ > > > > > > from > > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > while > > > > > > posting to > > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > provide a > > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or > > > unknown > > > > > > folder. > > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant > Kumar Life > > > > > Member > > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > > Bangalore, > > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have > > > been a > > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But > > > > KSY has > > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > > person from > > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 > > > > planets > > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > > crippled all > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental > age is > > > > > only 2 > > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dasgupta, Thank you for your feedback. Well, since I dont believe in KSY or KAY either,so couldn't comment much on those controversial topics.(You can refer to my web regarding this :- http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles.htm However, Rahu actually denotes any form of Shakti(Kali, Durga etc) which gets modified according to aspects, conjunction etc. Venus ought to give some opposition & obstacles, as it is severly afflicted,specially by avayogi.However, it is in the star of Sun, a yogi planet & Venus is in Dasamsa Lagna, it will do some good at least. When Saturn touched cancer last time,so it also created a havoc.Health issues will be there, as Saturn is in Nakshatra of Mercury, 6th lord. But gives u immunity as it being in a negative star, also owns a negative house.So Sa-Me is good for fate & luck, but bad for health issues. For you the best remedy is to improve the condition of Venus & Jupiter, for career front. Thank you, http://gauravastro.150m.com , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Excellent. Yes, I am an civil engineer, have my own consultancy firm in > Mumbai. > > But you have missed a major point in my chart. The tiring KAY - which almost > binded me till 47 years of age. It keeps on tormenting me still by blocking > income. Ketu is the focal point and it is in 11H. > > rahu MD was best for me till now. Rahu in ayur exaltation in 5H. It has > given me name, fame, acknowlegment society during its time. Jup is my AK. > During Jup dasa it has given me spirituality. Rahu in 5H also has given me > Durga bhakti, not Kali. Rahu denotes Durga. Kali is denoted by Saturn. These > dieties are well mentioned in Prashna Marga and also by Parasara for all > planets. Anybody sits in 5H, one has to worship the devi form of that > planet, for prosperity. And when the 5H planet becomes favourable, there is > no better friend than it. Rahu in 5H also has given me interest and > knowledge in mantra shastra > > At the start of Jup MD - I came in came in contact with Swami Chinmayananda > and learned Upanishads & Geeta directly at his feet. This changed my life > and made me stronger for the crisis in life later. Yes, Jup period made > problem in my career - as AK is sitting in 10H. Look that Jup is 3L & 12L > and in kendra. This is a VRY. For VRY in kendra the planet has to be very > strong and must have connection with lagna lord or AK to transfer the > benefit to the native by fall of somebody else. Here Jup himself is AK and > has no connection with lagna lord. I am not very sure, my boss resigned in > Jup-Ven dasa and I also had to resign due to internal company politics. Then > I opted for business. Lagna lord in 7H, always like to work independently. > > Jup-Rahu was worst for me in all respect. Jup-Rahu is always bad in general, > where-as Rahu-Jup is always good. But in that dasa only I started learning > Astrology seriously. As soon as Saturn dasa strated - my fincial situation > started improving gradually. A strong Saturn in 7H, that too in Cancer - has > the power to give me rajayoga single handedly during his dasa. But the KAY > is creating problem always. > > I am presently in Sat-Ven. Sat-Ven is not good in general. So presently > going through lot of stress on proffessional front. > > Sun in 8H as 8L has given me good health. 8H is the house of rejuvination. > Also see that Mars is virgottama. But as soon as Sat-Ketu started, I was > hospitalised for 2 days for the 1st time in my life for high fever and > doctors could not make out what was going on. This is badhakesha. after that > I got lot of health problems for no reasons. After Ketu sub, now again I am > back to normal. > > > > > On Behalf Of > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:02 PM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > My Observations about your chart. > 1)Lagna is Capricorn, with Lagna lord aspecting > > the Lagna. This is good. This means the native > > will have a late rise in his life, Saturn being a > > planet of delays, not denials. Even the scriptures > > Saturn as giver of authority. Specially, when > > Saturn is well disposed, aspected by functional > > benefics, occupies own Navamsha, is said to give > > good results.You may stay away from your natal place as well. > 2)Both Saturn,Rahu & Mars aspect the 10th lord, > > Venus, who is combusted however. This indicates > > some form of foreign connections in terms of > > career.Professions related to metals, engineering > > or even computers cannot be brushed aside, like > > import-export. > Moon in Virgo with Mercury,aspected by Mars, in > > 6th house, an indication of being into > business.I dont whether I am right or wrong. > Venus is in Saturn's Navamsha, it being an earthy > > sign, & also saturn's sign, jobs may be related to > > ruf-n-tuf things. > 3)Venus, mercury & moon aspect the 3rd > > house---Venus also happens to be the 5th lord > > however. This will give the native a habit of > > writing, appreciating Arts etc.However, writings > > will be controversial/contradictory. > 4)Sun is Yogi planet for the native, who is in own > > house, but in 8th house. Added to that Sun is in > > own star. This means results of Sun will be of > > reduced good. > 5)5th house has Rahu in it, while Rahu is also > > there in 9th house from Moon. This is good, > > indicates some form of Kali Bhakti, which can lead > > to increased Bhakti towards the God of the > > native's like during the dasa. > 6)Venus, lord of 10th house is combusted & > > aspected by Mars & Saturn--two natural malefics. > > It doesn't allow the native to sit back & > > relax.Either mental tension or physical hardwork. > It is also not favourable for a married life. > Now Dasa Sequence. > For this native, it was like this:- > Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter & Presently Saturn. > Sun falls in 22nd Drekkana, which is not > > auspicious for sound health in Sun's period & > > Sub-periods. > The native may have an elder sibling(probably an > > elder brother) & a sister after the native's > > birth, death of a co-born is another possibility. > Moon MD was normal with some distractions, in > > studies,with some health issues like fever, cough > > & cold,even chest related issues. > Mars MD was also bad for health.Mars with Lord of > > 64th Navamsha(in Navamsha) & also aspected by lord > > of 64th Navamsha(Jupiter) in Rashi & given the > > time of birth is correct, some setbacks in > > education. > Rahu MD was stressful, financially, as whatever > > was being earned, most of them were being > > spent.This time also indicates of making a career. > > But not successful though,as there were > > disappointments.I wouldn't comment much on health, > > as you it better than me.Probably, you also > > suffered from eye problems during this time. > > However, during this dasa period, when you were > > around 29-30 yrs, you had to face a toughtime, > > some death in the family etc. > Jupiter MD was not at all good for career.3rd lord > > & 12th lord in own Nakshatra in 10th house is not > > good at all for career.In this dasa, the effort > > that you put on your work, was not yielding much > > results, even you couldn't control your > > expenses.Things turned better, when you were > > around 43, before which money was literally > > flowing out, & quite sudden expenses. > Sat MD took over in 2000.At the onset of the dasa beginning, some > wealth must have come in, as Rahu touched bhrigu-bindu earlier, while > Jupiter touched natal rahu & before which Jup-Saturn were aspecting > the natal 10th house. > However, Saturn Dasa overall is above average. > This a humble attempt to read your chart. Let me know your feedback. > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > 15.9.1947 > > 15:57 > > Kolkata > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Monday, January 19, 2009 1:04 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > > Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers > > like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart & see > > it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? > > I think it would be really great.!! > > Thank you, > > . > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > > > > > Look at the problems in following order. > > > > > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then > > remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned below. > > > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > > > > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly > > work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the > > planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving > > hardship, unless remedy is done. > > > > > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the > > delivery of the curse. > > > > > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. I have > > got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with Ketu, > > and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti etc. > > Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 year, but > > still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my > > business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after > > starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) > > Nathani > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed > > astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is > > suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha is on, > > due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what > > reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > > > > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of > > KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All Ksy do > > not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, > > health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It > > all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > > > > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, > > it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The > > astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due to KSY > > whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on > > what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to > > ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that > > astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > > > > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and > > then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases > > the other departments of life like marital life or family relationship > > or poor health gets affected.. > > > > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123@> > > > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > > > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by > > some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in the lay > > person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my experience the > > Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > > > > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the > > rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , though > > they can be param marakas. > > > > > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn > > and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker to be > > more discerning. > > > > > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on > > Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > > > Take care > > > Vats > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is > > said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp > > Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on this, I > > am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he > > said it is blind faith > > > > > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than > > astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > > > > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the > > latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct > > rahu kalam pujas specially > > > > > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 > > WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, > > sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > > > and many temples in the North > > > > > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given > > by scriptures though > > > > > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we > > must do anyway. > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and > formation > > > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > > > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > > > confirmed these Yoga? > > > > > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a > Guru.Old > > > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to > search > > > able Guru. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL > MAGAZINE and > > > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > > > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND > IT IS > > > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS > WORKS. > > > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX IT ON > > > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no problem but > > > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it confidently > > > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile > being > > > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called me to > > > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is > seeing > > > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand > daughter > > > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to meet his > > > commitment. > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am > > using > > > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have > given most > > > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two > were > > > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them > > by BV > > > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find > > many > > > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu > > have, > > > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to > exhibit > > > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > > > Physical existence. > > > > > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by > experiences of > > > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > > > knowledge in every field. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all > applicabe > > > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM > > for so > > > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most > time wwa > > > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite > early, he > > > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. > > some > > > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results > > again > > > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > > > words, works seriously > > > > > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' > > survival > > > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN > RAO ji > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which > > contribute to > > > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart > > before any > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect > > each others > > > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If > > you have > > > > > than please share it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in > > astrology KSY, > > > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp > > his WW1 > > > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less > > qualified > > > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from > > fear > > > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again > > depending on > > > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive > > weak fall > > > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, > > teacher, > > > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange > situation with > > > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his > > Ardha > > > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end > > as he was > > > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the > ecconomoci > > > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan > > singh in > > > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time > > to lifft > > > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, > > > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in > > history, but > > > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in > > the right > > > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced > > enough > > > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > differ > > > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > > while > > > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > provide > > > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > > Lagna/rasi > > > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my > > > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the > group for > > > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating > > Yogas of > > > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki > > sadesathi " .Natives > > > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and > > they are > > > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own > > reasons > > > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology > > and there > > > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of > > Saturn,from 12th > > > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > > > comes in > > > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not > > find any > > > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason > > of bad > > > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn > > only,but fear > > > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of > > Sadesati. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in > > between the > > > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our > great > > > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as > > " Kal Sarp > > > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this > > Rahu and > > > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and > > > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and > > > benefice > > > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some > money > > > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 > form > > > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd > > house as > > > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all > > planets comes > > > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they > > said it > > > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types > > of KSY. > > > > > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type > > > of yoga > > > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other > > result than > > > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga > > and each > > > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will > > become 288 > > > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 > it will > > > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all > Yogas? > > > > > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes > > to us > > > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where > than our > > > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal > experiences and > > > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , " " > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is > > gandanta. > > > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house > > from Lagna. > > > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is > > combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence > > was Ketu, > > > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position > > in D-6 > > > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th > house. > > > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why > > > > couldn't > > > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone > > through > > > > the MD > > > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not > > able > > > > to see > > > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually > > in the > > > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive > > planet, being > > > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > > > auspicious.If > > > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall > > in 12th > > > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika > > Yoga). > > > > There > > > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all > seven > > > > planets > > > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > > > play(reference > > > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn > > > > exalted in > > > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one > > would > > > > > > > function. One > > > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start > > right > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any > of the > > > > yoga to > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in > > curses. The > > > > > > chart has > > > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, > > when Rahu > > > > > > matures. > > > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. > > This will > > > > > > bind a > > > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic > > > than KSY > > > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni > > rashi). > > > > > This is > > > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and > > Rahu by > > > > > graha > > > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The > curse is > > > > hard to > > > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is > Sarpa > > > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins > > atmakaraka (AK) > > > > > > Sun and > > > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > > > suffering is > > > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the > > house of > > > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana > > for this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in > > 8H and > > > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower > part of > > > spinal > > > > > > > cord in > > > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > > > incidents, we > > > > > > > may break > > > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > > > Prashant > > > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > > > experience if u > > > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa > > > is not > > > > > > > on so no > > > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and > > > > sani on > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH > > > IN d9 > > > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > > > chandra > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works > > gives many > > > > more > > > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates > will > > > > differ > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > > while > > > > > > > posting to > > > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > provide a > > > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi > one or > > > > unknown > > > > > > > folder. > > > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant > > Kumar Life > > > > > > Member > > > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > > > Bangalore, > > > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have > > > > been a > > > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the > horoscope. But > > > > > KSY has > > > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > > > person from > > > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone > (all 9 > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > > > crippled all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental > > age is > > > > > > only 2 > > > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > > > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 If I am not in the wrong, present discussion was started by Anand Jee who reported a person with serious brain dysfunction in spite of great yogas, plus a KSY. I sent siddhantic analysis on the basis of Kundalee software, after which Rohiniranjan Jee asked me to provide more details. Hence, the details are put at http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Brain+Damage I do not feel any need of KSY to explain this case. D1. D9 and D30 have all contributed in brain damage. -VJ ================================== ============== , " " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > Thank you for your feedback. > Well, since I dont believe in KSY or KAY either,so couldn't comment > much on those controversial topics.(You can refer to my web regarding > this :- > http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles.htm > However, Rahu actually denotes any form of Shakti(Kali, Durga etc) > which gets modified according to aspects, conjunction etc. > Venus ought to give some opposition & obstacles, as it is severly > afflicted,specially by avayogi.However, it is in the star of Sun, a > yogi planet & Venus is in Dasamsa Lagna, it will do some good at > least. When Saturn touched cancer last time,so it also created a > havoc.Health issues will be there, as Saturn is in Nakshatra of > Mercury, 6th lord. But gives u immunity as it being in a negative > star, also owns a negative house.So Sa-Me is good for fate & luck, but > bad for health issues. > For you the best remedy is to improve the condition of Venus & > Jupiter, for career front. > Thank you, > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Excellent. Yes, I am an civil engineer, have my own consultancy firm in > > Mumbai. > > > > But you have missed a major point in my chart. The tiring KAY - > which almost > > binded me till 47 years of age. It keeps on tormenting me still by > blocking > > income. Ketu is the focal point and it is in 11H. > > > > rahu MD was best for me till now. Rahu in ayur exaltation in 5H. It has > > given me name, fame, acknowlegment society during its time. Jup is > my AK. > > During Jup dasa it has given me spirituality. Rahu in 5H also has > given me > > Durga bhakti, not Kali. Rahu denotes Durga. Kali is denoted by > Saturn. These > > dieties are well mentioned in Prashna Marga and also by Parasara for all > > planets. Anybody sits in 5H, one has to worship the devi form of that > > planet, for prosperity. And when the 5H planet becomes favourable, > there is > > no better friend than it. Rahu in 5H also has given me interest and > > knowledge in mantra shastra > > > > At the start of Jup MD - I came in came in contact with Swami > Chinmayananda > > and learned Upanishads & Geeta directly at his feet. This changed my > life > > and made me stronger for the crisis in life later. Yes, Jup period made > > problem in my career - as AK is sitting in 10H. Look that Jup is 3L > & 12L > > and in kendra. This is a VRY. For VRY in kendra the planet has to be > very > > strong and must have connection with lagna lord or AK to transfer the > > benefit to the native by fall of somebody else. Here Jup himself is > AK and > > has no connection with lagna lord. I am not very sure, my boss > resigned in > > Jup-Ven dasa and I also had to resign due to internal company > politics. Then > > I opted for business. Lagna lord in 7H, always like to work > independently. > > > > Jup-Rahu was worst for me in all respect. Jup-Rahu is always bad in > general, > > where-as Rahu-Jup is always good. But in that dasa only I started > learning > > Astrology seriously. As soon as Saturn dasa strated - my fincial > situation > > started improving gradually. A strong Saturn in 7H, that too in > Cancer - has > > the power to give me rajayoga single handedly during his dasa. But > the KAY > > is creating problem always. > > > > I am presently in Sat-Ven. Sat-Ven is not good in general. So presently > > going through lot of stress on proffessional front. > > > > Sun in 8H as 8L has given me good health. 8H is the house of > rejuvination. > > Also see that Mars is virgottama. But as soon as Sat-Ketu started, I was > > hospitalised for 2 days for the 1st time in my life for high fever and > > doctors could not make out what was going on. This is badhakesha. > after that > > I got lot of health problems for no reasons. After Ketu sub, now > again I am > > back to normal. > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:02 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > > My Observations about your chart. > > 1)Lagna is Capricorn, with Lagna lord aspecting > > > > the Lagna. This is good. This means the native > > > > will have a late rise in his life, Saturn being a > > > > planet of delays, not denials. Even the scriptures > > > > Saturn as giver of authority. Specially, when > > > > Saturn is well disposed, aspected by functional > > > > benefics, occupies own Navamsha, is said to give > > > > good results.You may stay away from your natal place as well. > > 2)Both Saturn,Rahu & Mars aspect the 10th lord, > > > > Venus, who is combusted however. This indicates > > > > some form of foreign connections in terms of > > > > career.Professions related to metals, engineering > > > > or even computers cannot be brushed aside, like > > > > import-export. > > Moon in Virgo with Mercury,aspected by Mars, in > > > > 6th house, an indication of being into > > business.I dont whether I am right or wrong. > > Venus is in Saturn's Navamsha, it being an earthy > > > > sign, & also saturn's sign, jobs may be related to > > > > ruf-n-tuf things. > > 3)Venus, mercury & moon aspect the 3rd > > > > house---Venus also happens to be the 5th lord > > > > however. This will give the native a habit of > > > > writing, appreciating Arts etc.However, writings > > > > will be controversial/contradictory. > > 4)Sun is Yogi planet for the native, who is in own > > > > house, but in 8th house. Added to that Sun is in > > > > own star. This means results of Sun will be of > > > > reduced good. > > 5)5th house has Rahu in it, while Rahu is also > > > > there in 9th house from Moon. This is good, > > > > indicates some form of Kali Bhakti, which can lead > > > > to increased Bhakti towards the God of the > > > > native's like during the dasa. > > 6)Venus, lord of 10th house is combusted & > > > > aspected by Mars & Saturn--two natural malefics. > > > > It doesn't allow the native to sit back & > > > > relax.Either mental tension or physical hardwork. > > It is also not favourable for a married life. > > Now Dasa Sequence. > > For this native, it was like this:- > > Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter & Presently Saturn. > > Sun falls in 22nd Drekkana, which is not > > > > auspicious for sound health in Sun's period & > > > > Sub-periods. > > The native may have an elder sibling(probably an > > > > elder brother) & a sister after the native's > > > > birth, death of a co-born is another possibility. > > Moon MD was normal with some distractions, in > > > > studies,with some health issues like fever, cough > > > > & cold,even chest related issues. > > Mars MD was also bad for health.Mars with Lord of > > > > 64th Navamsha(in Navamsha) & also aspected by lord > > > > of 64th Navamsha(Jupiter) in Rashi & given the > > > > time of birth is correct, some setbacks in > > > > education. > > Rahu MD was stressful, financially, as whatever > > > > was being earned, most of them were being > > > > spent.This time also indicates of making a career. > > > > But not successful though,as there were > > > > disappointments.I wouldn't comment much on health, > > > > as you it better than me.Probably, you also > > > > suffered from eye problems during this time. > > > > However, during this dasa period, when you were > > > > around 29-30 yrs, you had to face a toughtime, > > > > some death in the family etc. > > Jupiter MD was not at all good for career.3rd lord > > > > & 12th lord in own Nakshatra in 10th house is not > > > > good at all for career.In this dasa, the effort > > > > that you put on your work, was not yielding much > > > > results, even you couldn't control your > > > > expenses.Things turned better, when you were > > > > around 43, before which money was literally > > > > flowing out, & quite sudden expenses. > > Sat MD took over in 2000.At the onset of the dasa beginning, some > > wealth must have come in, as Rahu touched bhrigu-bindu earlier, while > > Jupiter touched natal rahu & before which Jup-Saturn were aspecting > > the natal 10th house. > > However, Saturn Dasa overall is above average. > > This a humble attempt to read your chart. Let me know your feedback. > > Thank you, > > . > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > 15.9.1947 > > > 15:57 > > > Kolkata > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 1:04 PM > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > > > Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers > > > like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart > & see > > > it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? > > > I think it would be really great.!! > > > Thank you, > > > . > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > > > > > > > Look at the problems in following order. > > > > > > > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then > > > remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned > below. > > > > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > > > > > > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly > > > work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the > > > planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving > > > hardship, unless remedy is done. > > > > > > > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the > > > delivery of the curse. > > > > > > > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. > I have > > > got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with > Ketu, > > > and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti > etc. > > > Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 > year, but > > > still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my > > > business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after > > > starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) > > > Nathani > > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed > > > astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is > > > suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha > is on, > > > due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what > > > reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > > > > > > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of > > > KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All > Ksy do > > > not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, > > > health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It > > > all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > > > > > > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, > > > it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The > > > astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due > to KSY > > > whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on > > > what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to > > > ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that > > > astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > > > > > > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and > > > then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases > > > the other departments of life like marital life or family > relationship > > > or poor health gets affected.. > > > > > > > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123@> > > > > > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > > > > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by > > > some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in > the lay > > > person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my > experience the > > > Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > > > > > > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the > > > rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , > though > > > they can be param marakas. > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn > > > and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker > to be > > > more discerning. > > > > > > > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on > > > Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > > > > Take care > > > > Vats > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is > > > said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp > > > Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on > this, I > > > am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he > > > said it is blind faith > > > > > > > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than > > > astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > > > > > > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the > > > latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct > > > rahu kalam pujas specially > > > > > > > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 > > > WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, > > > sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > > > > and many temples in the North > > > > > > > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given > > > by scriptures though > > > > > > > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we > > > must do anyway. > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and > > formation > > > > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > > > > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > > > > confirmed these Yoga? > > > > > > > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a > > Guru.Old > > > > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to > > search > > > > able Guru. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL > > MAGAZINE and > > > > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > > > > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > > > > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND > > IT IS > > > > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS > > WORKS. > > > > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX > IT ON > > > > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > > > > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no > problem but > > > > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it > confidently > > > > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile > > being > > > > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called > me to > > > > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is > > seeing > > > > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand > > daughter > > > > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to > meet his > > > > commitment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am > > > using > > > > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have > > given most > > > > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two > > were > > > > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them > > > by BV > > > > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > > > > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find > > > many > > > > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > > > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu > > > have, > > > > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > > > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > > > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > > > > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to > > exhibit > > > > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > > > > Physical existence. > > > > > > > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > > > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by > > experiences of > > > > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > > > > knowledge in every field. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all > > applicabe > > > > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM > > > for so > > > > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most > > time wwa > > > > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite > > early, he > > > > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. > > > some > > > > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results > > > again > > > > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > > > > words, works seriously > > > > > > > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' > > > survival > > > > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > > > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN > > RAO ji > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which > > > contribute to > > > > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart > > > before any > > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect > > > each others > > > > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If > > > you have > > > > > > than please share it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in > > > astrology KSY, > > > > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp > > > his WW1 > > > > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less > > > qualified > > > > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from > > > fear > > > > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again > > > depending on > > > > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive > > > weak fall > > > > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, > > > teacher, > > > > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange > > situation with > > > > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his > > > Ardha > > > > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end > > > as he was > > > > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the > > ecconomoci > > > > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan > > > singh in > > > > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time > > > to lifft > > > > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri > lanka, > > > > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in > > > history, but > > > > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in > > > the right > > > > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced > > > enough > > > > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > > differ > > > > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > > > while > > > > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > > provide > > > > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > > > Lagna/rasi > > > > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or > to my > > > > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the > > group for > > > > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating > > > Yogas of > > > > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki > > > sadesathi " .Natives > > > > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and > > > they are > > > > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own > > > reasons > > > > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology > > > and there > > > > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of > > > Saturn,from 12th > > > > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > > > > comes in > > > > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not > > > find any > > > > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason > > > of bad > > > > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn > > > only,but fear > > > > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of > > > Sadesati. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in > > > between the > > > > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our > > great > > > > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as > > > " Kal Sarp > > > > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this > > > Rahu and > > > > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If > Sun,Saturn and > > > > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- > 4) and > > > > benefice > > > > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some > > money > > > > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 > > form > > > > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd > > > house as > > > > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all > > > planets comes > > > > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they > > > said it > > > > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types > > > of KSY. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create > one type > > > > of yoga > > > > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other > > > result than > > > > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga > > > and each > > > > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will > > > become 288 > > > > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 > > it will > > > > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all > > Yogas? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes > > > to us > > > > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where > > than our > > > > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal > > experiences and > > > > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > , " " > > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is > > > gandanta. > > > > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house > > > from Lagna. > > > > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is > > > combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence > > > was Ketu, > > > > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position > > > in D-6 > > > > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th > > house. > > > > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. > Certainly, why > > > > > couldn't > > > > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone > > > through > > > > > the MD > > > > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not > > > able > > > > > to see > > > > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually > > > in the > > > > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive > > > planet, being > > > > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > > > > auspicious.If > > > > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall > > > in 12th > > > > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika > > > Yoga). > > > > > There > > > > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all > > seven > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > > > > play(reference > > > > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > > > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga > (Saturn > > > > > exalted in > > > > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one > > > would > > > > > > > > function. One > > > > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start > > > right > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any > > of the > > > > > yoga to > > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in > > > curses. The > > > > > > > chart has > > > > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, > > > when Rahu > > > > > > > matures. > > > > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. > > > This will > > > > > > > bind a > > > > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less > malefic > > > > than KSY > > > > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni > > > rashi). > > > > > > This is > > > > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and > > > Rahu by > > > > > > graha > > > > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The > > curse is > > > > > hard to > > > > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is > > Sarpa > > > > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins > > > atmakaraka (AK) > > > > > > > Sun and > > > > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > > > > suffering is > > > > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the > > > house of > > > > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana > > > for this > > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in > > > 8H and > > > > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower > > part of > > > > spinal > > > > > > > > cord in > > > > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > > > > incidents, we > > > > > > > > may break > > > > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > > > > Prashant > > > > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > > > > experience if u > > > > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good > > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its > dasa > > > > is not > > > > > > > > on so no > > > > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one > side and > > > > > sani on > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, > development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN > THE 8TH > > > > IN d9 > > > > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > > > > chandra > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works > > > gives many > > > > > more > > > > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates > > will > > > > > differ > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > > > while > > > > > > > > posting to > > > > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > > provide a > > > > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi > > one or > > > > > unknown > > > > > > > > folder. > > > > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant > > > Kumar Life > > > > > > > Member > > > > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > > > > Bangalore, > > > > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native > would have > > > > > been a > > > > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the > > horoscope. But > > > > > > KSY has > > > > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > > > > person from > > > > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone > > (all 9 > > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > > > > crippled all > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental > > > age is > > > > > > > only 2 > > > > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > > > > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Prashna marga & Parasara specifically tells Durga or Chandika for Rahu On Behalf Of Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:03 PM Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Dasgupta, Thank you for your feedback. Well, since I dont believe in KSY or KAY either,so couldn't comment much on those controversial topics.(You can refer to my web regarding this :- http://gauravastro.150m.com/articles.htm However, Rahu actually denotes any form of Shakti(Kali, Durga etc) which gets modified according to aspects, conjunction etc. Venus ought to give some opposition & obstacles, as it is severly afflicted,specially by avayogi.However, it is in the star of Sun, a yogi planet & Venus is in Dasamsa Lagna, it will do some good at least. When Saturn touched cancer last time,so it also created a havoc.Health issues will be there, as Saturn is in Nakshatra of Mercury, 6th lord. But gives u immunity as it being in a negative star, also owns a negative house.So Sa-Me is good for fate & luck, but bad for health issues. For you the best remedy is to improve the condition of Venus & Jupiter, for career front. Thank you, http://gauravastro.150m.com , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Excellent. Yes, I am an civil engineer, have my own consultancy firm in > Mumbai. > > But you have missed a major point in my chart. The tiring KAY - which almost > binded me till 47 years of age. It keeps on tormenting me still by blocking > income. Ketu is the focal point and it is in 11H. > > rahu MD was best for me till now. Rahu in ayur exaltation in 5H. It has > given me name, fame, acknowlegment society during its time. Jup is my AK. > During Jup dasa it has given me spirituality. Rahu in 5H also has given me > Durga bhakti, not Kali. Rahu denotes Durga. Kali is denoted by Saturn. These > dieties are well mentioned in Prashna Marga and also by Parasara for all > planets. Anybody sits in 5H, one has to worship the devi form of that > planet, for prosperity. And when the 5H planet becomes favourable, there is > no better friend than it. Rahu in 5H also has given me interest and > knowledge in mantra shastra > > At the start of Jup MD - I came in came in contact with Swami Chinmayananda > and learned Upanishads & Geeta directly at his feet. This changed my life > and made me stronger for the crisis in life later. Yes, Jup period made > problem in my career - as AK is sitting in 10H. Look that Jup is 3L & 12L > and in kendra. This is a VRY. For VRY in kendra the planet has to be very > strong and must have connection with lagna lord or AK to transfer the > benefit to the native by fall of somebody else. Here Jup himself is AK and > has no connection with lagna lord. I am not very sure, my boss resigned in > Jup-Ven dasa and I also had to resign due to internal company politics. Then > I opted for business. Lagna lord in 7H, always like to work independently. > > Jup-Rahu was worst for me in all respect. Jup-Rahu is always bad in general, > where-as Rahu-Jup is always good. But in that dasa only I started learning > Astrology seriously. As soon as Saturn dasa strated - my fincial situation > started improving gradually. A strong Saturn in 7H, that too in Cancer - has > the power to give me rajayoga single handedly during his dasa. But the KAY > is creating problem always. > > I am presently in Sat-Ven. Sat-Ven is not good in general. So presently > going through lot of stress on proffessional front. > > Sun in 8H as 8L has given me good health. 8H is the house of rejuvination. > Also see that Mars is virgottama. But as soon as Sat-Ketu started, I was > hospitalised for 2 days for the 1st time in my life for high fever and > doctors could not make out what was going on. This is badhakesha. after that > I got lot of health problems for no reasons. After Ketu sub, now again I am > back to normal. > > > > > On Behalf Of > Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:02 PM > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > My Observations about your chart. > 1)Lagna is Capricorn, with Lagna lord aspecting > > the Lagna. This is good. This means the native > > will have a late rise in his life, Saturn being a > > planet of delays, not denials. Even the scriptures > > Saturn as giver of authority. Specially, when > > Saturn is well disposed, aspected by functional > > benefics, occupies own Navamsha, is said to give > > good results.You may stay away from your natal place as well. > 2)Both Saturn,Rahu & Mars aspect the 10th lord, > > Venus, who is combusted however. This indicates > > some form of foreign connections in terms of > > career.Professions related to metals, engineering > > or even computers cannot be brushed aside, like > > import-export. > Moon in Virgo with Mercury,aspected by Mars, in > > 6th house, an indication of being into > business.I dont whether I am right or wrong. > Venus is in Saturn's Navamsha, it being an earthy > > sign, & also saturn's sign, jobs may be related to > > ruf-n-tuf things. > 3)Venus, mercury & moon aspect the 3rd > > house---Venus also happens to be the 5th lord > > however. This will give the native a habit of > > writing, appreciating Arts etc.However, writings > > will be controversial/contradictory. > 4)Sun is Yogi planet for the native, who is in own > > house, but in 8th house. Added to that Sun is in > > own star. This means results of Sun will be of > > reduced good. > 5)5th house has Rahu in it, while Rahu is also > > there in 9th house from Moon. This is good, > > indicates some form of Kali Bhakti, which can lead > > to increased Bhakti towards the God of the > > native's like during the dasa. > 6)Venus, lord of 10th house is combusted & > > aspected by Mars & Saturn--two natural malefics. > > It doesn't allow the native to sit back & > > relax.Either mental tension or physical hardwork. > It is also not favourable for a married life. > Now Dasa Sequence. > For this native, it was like this:- > Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter & Presently Saturn. > Sun falls in 22nd Drekkana, which is not > > auspicious for sound health in Sun's period & > > Sub-periods. > The native may have an elder sibling(probably an > > elder brother) & a sister after the native's > > birth, death of a co-born is another possibility. > Moon MD was normal with some distractions, in > > studies,with some health issues like fever, cough > > & cold,even chest related issues. > Mars MD was also bad for health.Mars with Lord of > > 64th Navamsha(in Navamsha) & also aspected by lord > > of 64th Navamsha(Jupiter) in Rashi & given the > > time of birth is correct, some setbacks in > > education. > Rahu MD was stressful, financially, as whatever > > was being earned, most of them were being > > spent.This time also indicates of making a career. > > But not successful though,as there were > > disappointments.I wouldn't comment much on health, > > as you it better than me.Probably, you also > > suffered from eye problems during this time. > > However, during this dasa period, when you were > > around 29-30 yrs, you had to face a toughtime, > > some death in the family etc. > Jupiter MD was not at all good for career.3rd lord > > & 12th lord in own Nakshatra in 10th house is not > > good at all for career.In this dasa, the effort > > that you put on your work, was not yielding much > > results, even you couldn't control your > > expenses.Things turned better, when you were > > around 43, before which money was literally > > flowing out, & quite sudden expenses. > Sat MD took over in 2000.At the onset of the dasa beginning, some > wealth must have come in, as Rahu touched bhrigu-bindu earlier, while > Jupiter touched natal rahu & before which Jup-Saturn were aspecting > the natal 10th house. > However, Saturn Dasa overall is above average. > This a humble attempt to read your chart. Let me know your feedback. > Thank you, > . > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > 15.9.1947 > > 15:57 > > Kolkata > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Monday, January 19, 2009 1:04 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 19/1 > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Mr.Dasgupta, > > Can you please post your birth details, & may be erudite astrologers > > like prashantji or illiterate like me have a look at your chart & see > > it from any other perspective, keeping aside KSY? > > I think it would be really great.!! > > Thank you, > > . > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I fully agree with Hareshji. > > > > > > Look at the problems in following order. > > > > > > 1. KSY/KAY: I have been taught that if this is present - then > > remedying this will also put an end to other problems mentioned below. > > > 2. Grahamalika yoga. > > > > > > If any of the above is present, no other good yoga will properly > > work till the above matures. Even ofter the yoga matures after the > > planets natural maturing ages - the yogas will keep on giving > > hardship, unless remedy is done. > > > > > > 3. Curses. The strongest will work. We use Moola dasa to time the > > delivery of the curse. > > > > > > To be very frank, no body knows the bad effects more than me. I have > > got KAY between 5H & 11H, GMY starting from Rahu and ending with Ketu, > > and 3 strong curses. I have done all types of puja, graha shanti etc. > > Nothing worked. The effect of KAY has reduced much after 47 year, but > > still it continues delivering hardship in money matters (11H) in my > > business. Recently I have learned how to remedy KSY/KAY and after > > starting those - there is remarkable improvement. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) > > Nathani > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 11:54 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > U r creating a phobia that KSY is being exploited, u all esteemed > > astrologers I would like to ask u a simple thing. If a native is > > suffering from some problems even though his benefic grah dasha is on, > > due to KSY, can u justify or give an explanation on, due to what > > reasons the native is hvg tough time, other than KSY. > > > > > > I think the term KSY is not understood properly. Their r type of > > KSY & native suffers according to the nature & type of KSY. All Ksy do > > not give same problems. KSY can give problems related to finances, > > health, marital life, education, relationships, property matters. It > > all depends on from which bhav the KSY starts. > > > > > > One example I have already given my comments, with justification, > > it seems except Vinay Jha no one bothered to even read it. The > > astrologer gave ill health & poor mental & physical growth due to KSY > > whereas it was not right. U should point out to that astrologer on > > what grounds or technicalities the astro has justfied KSY related to > > ill health rather making a blunt & unjustified statement that > > astrologers are exploiting KSY. > > > > > > Pls understand KSY properly, understand the technicalities and > > then comment. KSY also give financial prosperity but in these cases > > the other departments of life like marital life or family relationship > > or poor health gets affected.. > > > > > > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > > CELL +919867214103 > > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123@> > > > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009 11:09:23 AM > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear Prashantji and Bohraji, > > > You are right the Kala-Sarpa yoga has been exploited very badly by > > some Astrologers. The name itself can invoke a kind of fear in the lay > > person. What is actually funny is a lot of times in my experience the > > Kala amrit Yoga has also been put under the same scanner as KSY. > > > > > > Similarly the myths and fears concerning Saturn are doing the > > rounds all the time. Nobody even mentions Jupiter or Mercury , though > > they can be param marakas. > > > > > > Perhaps we should start a thread here on the benevolence of Saturn > > and the nodes. If nothing it will educate the prediction seeker to be > > more discerning. > > > > > > Also teach some to question the learned pundits featuring on > > Television shows and putting the fear of death into common persons!! > > > Take care > > > Vats > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 19/1/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > Re: Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Monday, 19 January, 2009, 10:39 AM > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > this is what he has used -proof lies in eating [porridge] it is > > said, it may be simpler for u to locate some ol ISSUES OF AM esp > > Annual nos , sept nos of any yr has many good articles even on this, I > > am looking at what is applied and seen as workable, just because he > > said it is blind faith > > > > > > I am also saying that in the name of it miscrients rather than > > astrologers r misusing, and bringing it a bad name > > > > > > I am not sure if u have heard of the RAHU KALAM puja this is the > > latest in such series, where on Tuesdays and Fridays temple conduct > > rahu kalam pujas specially > > > > > > at least as I know in afternoons most temples r closed till 4.30 > > WHERE pUJAS R DONE BY AGAMA PRACTICES BUT SOME TEMPLES LIKE ttd, > > sabarimala ETC R BEYOND THIS. > > > and many temples in the North > > > > > > but exploiting a rahu kulam period for a puja is strange not given > > by scriptures though > > > > > > BUT IN THE END whatever it is ppl r visiting a temple which we > > must do anyway. > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > Monday, January 19, 2009 12:51:29 AM > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > I am not against who claim KSY,my concern is reliability and > formation > > > of these Yoga backed by ancient text. BV Raman jee have covered so > > > many uncommon Yoga than why not so popular Yoga?Have KN Rao jee > > > confirmed these Yoga? > > > > > > It is nice that you have get the opportunity to learn under a > Guru.Old > > > time Guru search for able " Shishya " but today's time we have to > search > > > able Guru. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > Pl get some ANNUAL NUMBERS OF B V RAMAN'S ASTROLOGICAL > MAGAZINE and > > > see the world tensions, trends this will show u him covering it > > > explicitly on the examples I said. > > > > > > > > we cant say why he did or did not cover a yoga IN THE BOOK AND > IT IS > > > SURELY MORE THAN 300 YOGAS kn rao HAS BROUGHT SOME MORE IN HIS > WORKS. > > > > THERE R MANY FACTORS THAT SHAPE A RESULT AND WE MUST NOT FIX IT ON > > > ONE OR TWO FACTORS, > > > > > > > > and KSY is a abused yoga b t greedy ppl will say so no problem but > > > wishing it away is not tthe way. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have studied under a Guru for a long time to say it confidently > > > since 86-2002 inspite of my depth in the subject felt worthwhile > being > > > under him even today if time permits will do it. he has called me to > > > assist him when he is overloaded now with advanced age at 86 is > seeing > > > less no of ppl anyway. some I do anser by e-mail to his grand > daughter > > > who passes them to the clients when he is sick or unable to meet his > > > commitment. > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:59:58 PM > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > I could not dare to put any question mark on B.V.Raman jee,I am > > using > > > > his so many books.As like 300 Yogas, in this book he have > given most > > > > of Yogas but you will not find these two Yogas.Where these two > were > > > > also famous in his life and it is not possible to untouched them > > by BV > > > > Raman jee if he find there reliability. > > > > > > > > As per Pt.Nehru jee's ,he was Cancer Ascendant and you will find > > many > > > > cancer person have the same problems,what are reason we have to > > > > search.As about so called KSY Sachin Tendulkar have,Murari Bapu > > have, > > > > there is not bad effect as says.Every one on the earth have some > > > > benefice and some malefic result in his life.That is not mean we > > > > justify the reason by our view of angle only. > > > > > > > > Rahu & ketu are nods,even they depended on occupied sign to > exhibit > > > > his result.We considering them planet but the are not have any > > > > Physical existence. > > > > > > > > We are not having any Gurukul system and it is very difficult to > > > > choose right Guru so we are learning by books and by > experiences of > > > > our and others only.Commercial aspects have polluted the pure > > > > knowledge in every field. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > u have answered it as I have also in a earlier post " all > applicabe > > > > factors have a role " so it can be good or bad based on it > > > > > > > > > > J Nehru our 1ST PM had it, it did not stop him from being PM > > for so > > > > long so it is a good one he suffered w.r.t marriage as most > time wwa > > > > in jail or hospital with his sick wife who die of TB quite > early, he > > > > did have affairs in between to keep his cool so some drawbacks,. > > some > > > > gains u will find several ppl who had both good and bad results > > again > > > > applicable factors have a role > > > > > > > > > > none of us have read as much as B V RAMAN ji has so I take his > > > > words, works seriously > > > > > > > > > > if we ignore Raman ji and swami vivekananda [for Hinduism' > > survival > > > > today] tyhen it is disservice to the subject in question- ramaji > > > > masterd vedas and met several scholars world over, so has KN > RAO ji > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:23:55 PM > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant jee, > > > > > > > > > > These are good result or bad result after all? > > > > > > > > > > We should know the real positions of all planets which > > contribute to > > > > > give the final result.It has to be analyse the whole chart > > before any > > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > It was my views and other may have their views. we respect > > each others > > > > > views.But i have not find any references about these yogas.If > > you have > > > > > than please share it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhora, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in > > astrology KSY, > > > > > SADE SAAT [and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp > > his WW1 > > > > > AND WW2 FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc > > > > > > > > > > > > so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less > > qualified > > > > > astrologers or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from > > fear > > > > > [this is sad and BAD] > > > > > > > > > > > > they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again > > depending on > > > > > other applicable factors > > > > > > > > > > > > dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Abt 7.5 Sani > > > > > > > > > > > > u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive > > weak fall > > > > > down by their own short comings sani is a hard task master, > > teacher, > > > > > guide for life > > > > > > > > > > > > look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time > > > > > > > > > > > > and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange > situation with > > > > > economy at its worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his > > Ardha > > > > > ashtama sani] > > > > > > > > > > > > Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end > > as he was > > > > > a great scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the > ecconomoci > > > > > might of India would have never be seen he brought Manmohan > > singh in > > > > > and gave him a free had > > > > > > > > > > > > IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time > > to lifft > > > > > India into world stage > > > > > > > > > > > > he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, > > > > > china, pak, bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his > > > > > challenges like a ant not visible but has his imprint in > > history, but > > > > > Gowda remains a sleeping leader by accident > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in > > the right > > > > > way, crooks have used them in their crooked ways > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced > > enough > > > > > challenges well so far. > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will > > differ > > > > > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > > while > > > > > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > provide > > > > > a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > > Lagna/rasi > > > > > one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my > > > > > personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the > group for > > > > > more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > msbohra62 <msbohra62@ ..> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > > > > > The most famous fear generating as well as money generating > > Yogas of > > > > > > today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki > > sadesathi " .Natives > > > > > > are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and > > they are > > > > > > only responsible for bad result which they are getting. > > > > > > > > > > > > People have different views on these two,they have their own > > reasons > > > > > > and interpretations.. I would like to share my view. > > > > > > > > > > > > These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology > > and there > > > > > > is no any references about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of > > Saturn,from 12th > > > > > > house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which > > > comes in > > > > > > every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not > > find any > > > > > > one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil > > > > > > Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason > > of bad > > > > > > period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn > > only,but fear > > > > > > have been created because of some thing else by name of > > Sadesati. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in > > between the > > > > > > Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our > great > > > > > > founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as > > " Kal Sarp > > > > > > Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this > > Rahu and > > > > > > Keatu are not involved at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and > > > > > > Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and > > > benefice > > > > > > occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " . > > > > > > > > > > > > The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some > money > > > > > > sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 > form > > > > > > related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd > > house as > > > > > > like this.The planetary position have described as all > > planets comes > > > > > > in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they > > said it > > > > > > " Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types > > of KSY. > > > > > > > > > > > > How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type > > > of yoga > > > > > > and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other > > result than > > > > > > first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga > > and each > > > > > > Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will > > become 288 > > > > > > types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 > it will > > > > > > become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all > Yogas? > > > > > > > > > > > > We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes > > to us > > > > > > with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right > > > > > > interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where > than our > > > > > > learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any > > > > > > offence,every one have their own views,personal > experiences and > > > > > > assumptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > , " " > > > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna| | > > > > > > > Dear Prashantji & learned Members, > > > > > > > Few things that i noted in the chart. > > > > > > > 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is > > gandanta. > > > > > > > 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house > > from Lagna. > > > > > > > 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is > > combusted/eclipsed. > > > > > > > 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > > 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon. > > > > > > > All these above condition doesn't result in anything good. > > > > > > > Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence > > was Ketu, > > > > > > > Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position > > in D-6 > > > > > > > chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th > house. > > > > > > > Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why > > > > couldn't > > > > > > > be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone > > through > > > > the MD > > > > > > > to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not > > able > > > > to see > > > > > > > Saturn MD in his life. > > > > > > > Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually > > in the > > > > > > > Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive > > planet, being > > > > > > > placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered > > > > auspicious.If > > > > > > > we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall > > in 12th > > > > > > > house & 8th house respectively. > > > > > > > However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika > > Yoga). > > > > There > > > > > > > is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all > seven > > > > planets > > > > > > > have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to > > > > play(reference > > > > > > > :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late > > > > V.S.Sastri, > > > > > > > Ranjan publication) . > > > > > > > I dont know whether I am right with my analysis. > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " jk.dasgupta " > > > > > > > <jk.dasgupta@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn > > > > exalted in > > > > > > > lagna) > > > > > > > > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one > > would > > > > > > > function. One > > > > > > > > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start > > right > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any > of the > > > > yoga to > > > > > > > start > > > > > > > > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in > > curses. The > > > > > > chart has > > > > > > > > following problems, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, > > when Rahu > > > > > > matures. > > > > > > > > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. > > This will > > > > > > bind a > > > > > > > > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic > > > than KSY > > > > > > > > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana. > > > > > > > > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni > > rashi). > > > > > This is > > > > > > > > extremely harmfull > > > > > > > > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and > > Rahu by > > > > > graha > > > > > > > > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The > curse is > > > > hard to > > > > > > > go. Also > > > > > > > > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is > Sarpa > > > > > > > > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins > > atmakaraka (AK) > > > > > > Sun and > > > > > > > > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, > > > suffering is > > > > > > > terrible. > > > > > > > > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the > > house of > > > > > > > punishment, as > > > > > > > > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana > > for this > > > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in > > 8H and > > > > > > > vimsottory > > > > > > > > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower > part of > > > spinal > > > > > > > cord in > > > > > > > > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of > > > incidents, we > > > > > > > may break > > > > > > > > our head more on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of > > > Prashant > > > > > > Kumar G B > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur > > > > > experience if u > > > > > > > > ignore KSY? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally I feel his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good > > thing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa > > > is not > > > > > > > on so no > > > > > > > > possibility of benefiting from it > > > > > > > > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and > > > > sani on > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > none of this can give him good mental health, development > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH > > > IN d9 > > > > > > > AND RAVI > > > > > > > > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or > > > chandra > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works > > gives many > > > > more > > > > > > > examples > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest is up to other members to add > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRASHANT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates > will > > > > differ > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life > > while > > > > > > > posting to > > > > > > > > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > > provide a > > > > > > > picture in the > > > > > > > > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi > one or > > > > unknown > > > > > > > folder. > > > > > > > > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are > > > > > > chargeable. see > > > > > > > > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant > > Kumar Life > > > > > > Member > > > > > > > > ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > > > > > method=reportRow s & > > > > > > > > tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am > > > > Bangalore, > > > > > > > > India. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have > > > > been a > > > > > > > > world renowned personality, so strong is the > horoscope. But > > > > > KSY has > > > > > > > > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped > > > > person from > > > > > > > > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone > (all 9 > > > > > planets > > > > > > > > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely > > > > crippled all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > many great yogas in the horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental > > age is > > > > > > only 2 > > > > > > > > years due to permanent brain damage at birth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ > > > Vedic_Astrology/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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