Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of chetan_11157 Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM To: Subject: marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Sir, Please give some more events on the boy’s chart. Please give his education, profession and line of work, is he doing business or is he doing a job or between jobs, please given some dates of purchase of assets such as car or house if any, date of death of parents if any, dates of any accidents if any or any major illness and their dates. What is the source of the birth time of the boy and is there a chance if there can be some 15 mins or more difference in birth time? Thanks, Ps : please sign your name out of courtesy. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of chetan_11157 Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hello Sir thank you for your reply. birth time is official registered at the time of birth. Information about boy education- engineering mechanical job- related to finance, banking in well known organisation. asset- purchased house in 2000-2001 rest is not applicable. --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kasRE: marriage is in trouble plz help Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 5:40 PM Dear Sir, Please give some more events on the boy¢s chart. Please give his education, profession and line of work, is he doing business or is he doing a job or between jobs, please given some dates of purchase of assets such as car or house if any, date of death of parents if any, dates of any accidents if any or any major illness and their dates. What is the source of the birth time of the boy and is there a chance if there can be some 15 mins or more difference in birth time? Thanks, Ps : please sign your name out of courtesy. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of chetan_11157Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension.. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Ashji, The date of marriage, being 5th July 2006, happened in the Antra of Me i.e. in Me-Me dasha of the groom. Mercury has highest points for the seventh house. So why is this marriage a failure? Or rather, why did the marriage happen in this antra? For the girl it is understandable, as marriage happened in the weakest antra of Ve. Regards, Harikrishnan.K --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kasRE: marriage is in trouble plz help Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:06 PM Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of chetan_11157Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune maharashtra his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards chetan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Chetan Ur brothers wife has sani & mangal in lagna. A very very Dangerous conjunction. Its like two terrorist sitting togather. Mangal sani conjunction in lagna always disturbs marital life. Ur brother is equally the same short tempered as sani is hvg aspect on mangal in lagna. Its like one terrorist hvg aspect on another. By doing shanti yagya for sani/mangal can bring them together, else seperation is not ruled out.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ chetan_11157 <chetan_11157 Tuesday, 13 January, 2009 6:15:44 PM marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6..59 a.m place-pune maharashtra his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards chetan Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dear Harikrishnan ji, Without understanding samdharmi, asking the answer to such questions would be akin to asking me to throw water over ducks back. Please read my email carefully. I have asked interested members to practice timing of event, which means, give the detailed calculation for why marriage happened on the date given. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Harikrishnan Tuesday January 13, 2009 2:09 PM To: RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Ashji, The date of marriage, being 5th July 2006, happened in the Antra of Me i.e. in Me-Me dasha of the groom. Mercury has highest points for the seventh house. So why is this marriage a failure? Or rather, why did the marriage happen in this antra? For the girl it is understandable, as marriage happened in the weakest antra of Ve. Regards, Harikrishnan.K --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kas RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 11:06 PM Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of chetan_11157 Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Sir, I have seen in many charts if sun and ven is togather and in AD of one of them such thing i.e. Separation happens. Am I write ? ---- Ash's Corner 1/13/2009 11:06:44 PM RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of chetan_11157Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Dear Ramesh ji, Please study the lessons given by Guru ji from Donna’s website. How we study events as per KAS can be understood in a proper and systematic manner. There are certain conditions given when Ve’s quality gets spoilt based on its distance from Sun along with that some other conditions also must be satisfied. Those all are given in lessons and also in the discussions. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of RAMESH LAHRI Saturday January 17, 2009 1:08 PM To: Fw: RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Sir, I have seen in many charts if sun and ven is togather and in AD of one of them such thing i.e. Separation happens. Am I write ? ---- Ash's Corner 1/13/2009 11:06:44 PM RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of chetan_11157 Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear Ash/Hari, This is very interesting. I girls chart the problems are evident. Sun is combusting venus, the marriage happened in the anatara of low point planet. Venus the karaka is aspected by 6th lord in navamsha. & th house is apseted by 6th lord jupiter. Moon is giving a 0 in the eighth house. Moon giving a zero may suggest some mental imbalance. I need to llok more closely at Boy's chart. I can see that he is running antara of ketu who is in the 6th house and is samdharmi to Jupiter the 6th lord from sign as well as nakshatra position. Sun- Venus distance seems to be OK. In both charts Jupiter is not in Tula either in rashi or navamsha. In girls chart venus is aspected by sturn in navansha, not sure whether combust venus aspected by saturn has the same implication as one >43 from sun. One thing I did notice in girl's chart is venus the NK is closely conjunct Rahu ( So it is in same navansha). There is an old dictum which states " Shukre rahu yute drishte yogabhanga padopade" I would like other member's opinion on these charts. Thanks Satish "Ash's Corner" <kas Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36:45 PMRE: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of chetan_11157Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear Satish ji, When Venus is away from Sun by more than 43deg20 then its out of control, its properties are very enhanced. When Venus is very close to sun i.e. less than 3deg20 then, its properties are burnt. Shani, enhances the bad qualities of Saturn. So in both case, Venus gets spoilt and when aspected by Saturn, it gets enhanced. Venus is very sensitive planet. It also gets spoilt in nakshatra of Sun with worst being Krittika. Also its spoilt in Aadra, Moola and jayeshta. When Saturn also aspects luminaries, along with the above combination then its worst. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Sunday January 18, 2009 9:32 AM To: Re: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Ash/Hari, This is very interesting. I girls chart the problems are evident. Sun is combusting venus, the marriage happened in the anatara of low point planet. Venus the karaka is aspected by 6th lord in navamsha. & th house is apseted by 6th lord jupiter. Moon is giving a 0 in the eighth house. Moon giving a zero may suggest some mental imbalance. I need to llok more closely at Boy's chart. I can see that he is running antara of ketu who is in the 6th house and is samdharmi to Jupiter the 6th lord from sign as well as nakshatra position. Sun- Venus distance seems to be OK. In both charts Jupiter is not in Tula either in rashi or navamsha. In girls chart venus is aspected by sturn in navansha, not sure whether combust venus aspected by saturn has the same implication as one >43 from sun. One thing I did notice in girl's chart is venus the NK is closely conjunct Rahu ( So it is in same navansha). There is an old dictum which states " Shukre rahu yute drishte yogabhanga padopade " I would like other member's opinion on these charts. Thanks Satish " Ash's Corner " <kas Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36:45 PM RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of chetan_11157 Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear Satish ji, For good example of Sun to Venus more than 43 deg and aspected by Sa and Sa aspecting luminary, you can refer to the example of the air hostess whos first husband died and her second marriage is also heading towards divorce. You can get good idea and demonstration of the same. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Sunday January 18, 2009 9:32 AM To: Re: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Ash/Hari, This is very interesting. I girls chart the problems are evident. Sun is combusting venus, the marriage happened in the anatara of low point planet. Venus the karaka is aspected by 6th lord in navamsha. & th house is apseted by 6th lord jupiter. Moon is giving a 0 in the eighth house. Moon giving a zero may suggest some mental imbalance. I need to llok more closely at Boy's chart. I can see that he is running antara of ketu who is in the 6th house and is samdharmi to Jupiter the 6th lord from sign as well as nakshatra position. Sun- Venus distance seems to be OK. In both charts Jupiter is not in Tula either in rashi or navamsha. In girls chart venus is aspected by sturn in navansha, not sure whether combust venus aspected by saturn has the same implication as one >43 from sun. One thing I did notice in girl's chart is venus the NK is closely conjunct Rahu ( So it is in same navansha). There is an old dictum which states " Shukre rahu yute drishte yogabhanga padopade " I would like other member's opinion on these charts. Thanks Satish " Ash's Corner " <kas Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:36:45 PM RE: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Group, This is a good chart to practice. The marriage date is given. Just cast both charts and study the same carefully. How samdharmis are working is very interesting. Those interested in practicing the samdharmi concept and practice the timing of marriage this is a good chart. Now separation has taken place so you can keenly study that as well. Prabha ji and Satish ji were just discussing on timing of events of a chart in which there are more problems. This is another chart and in the girls chart will demonstrate that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of chetan_11157 Tuesday January 13, 2009 7:47 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyandtiming events] marriage is in trouble plz help Hello Sir right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. my brother 23-10-1978 male 6.59 a.m place-pune his wifes details 01-06-1984 female 16.15 p.m place-miraj maharashtra 16.49 N 74.45 E some important events. 1. got married on 5th july 2006. 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after coming back to india) 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first effort to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my attempt to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I realize my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look for your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. Nelson Data used: WIFE HUSBAND JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 16.15 IST 06.59 IST 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 Miraj Maharashtra Pune 22:45:04 22:40:18 Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. Assumption: that stated data is correct WIFE'S CHART General Comments 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature that likes to win, perhaps? 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are in 6:8 relationship, as well. 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from Venus' nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's glance. But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own sign, and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and is 12th lord from B. 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is again, the Moon. 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 and H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But I do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. HUSBAND'S CHART General Comments 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the other. Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing husband likes to win. 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th lord Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his 8th. And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from the 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on 7th lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has only 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from the 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will give poor results during its period. 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury and Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural samdharmi for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that the father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital strife? The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the possibility that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can see that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of life, and both like to win. , " chetan_11157 " <chetan_11157 wrote: > > Hello Sir > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > my brother > 23-10-1978 male > 6.59 a.m > place-pune > > his wifes details > 01-06-1984 female > 16.15 p.m > place-miraj maharashtra > 16.49 N > 74.45 E > > some important events. > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > coming back to india) > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dear Nelson, You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of event of marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for the marriage date. You will get good practice. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of kenesawisland Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM To: Subject: Re: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first effort to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my attempt to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I realize my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look for your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. Nelson Data used: WIFE HUSBAND JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 16.15 IST 06.59 IST 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 Miraj Maharashtra Pune 22:45:04 22:40:18 Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. Assumption: that stated data is correct WIFE'S CHART General Comments 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature that likes to win, perhaps? 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are in 6:8 relationship, as well. 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from Venus' nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's glance. But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own sign, and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and is 12th lord from B. 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is again, the Moon. 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 and H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But I do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. HUSBAND'S CHART General Comments 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the other. Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing husband likes to win. 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th lord Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his 8th. And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from the 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on 7th lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has only 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from the 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will give poor results during its period. 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury and Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural samdharmi for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that the father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital strife? The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the possibility that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can see that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of life, and both like to win. , " chetan_11157 " <chetan_11157 wrote: > > Hello Sir > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > my brother > 23-10-1978 male > 6.59 a.m > place-pune > > his wifes details > 01-06-1984 female > 16.15 p.m > place-miraj maharashtra > 16.49 N > 74.45 E > > some important events. > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > coming back to india) > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dear Ashji, Husband's chart shows some indications of unhappy marriage like lagna and 7th lord being in 2:12, 6th lord Jupiter aspecting the 2nd house and second lord and seventh lord with low points. But, why did the marriage happen in Mercury Antra is still beyond my understanding. Is Jupiter Samdharmi to Mercury here because of the 4:10 relationship? Is that the reason, you kept stressing on the Samdharmi concept? Thanks, Harikrishnan , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Nelson, > > You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of event of > marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for the marriage > date. You will get good practice. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of kenesawisland > Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM > > Re: marriage is in trouble plz help > > Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, > > As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first effort > to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my attempt > to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I realize > my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look for > your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. > > Nelson > > Data used: > > WIFE HUSBAND > JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 > 16.15 IST 06.59 IST > 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 > Miraj Maharashtra Pune > > 22:45:04 22:40:18 > Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 > > Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. > Assumption: that stated data is correct > > WIFE'S CHART > > General Comments > > 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, > while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature that > likes to win, perhaps? > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, > receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars > (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are in > 6:8 relationship, as well. > > 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from Venus' > nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's glance. > But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as > retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own sign, > and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and is > 12th lord from B. > > 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on > with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi > chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. > > 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of > Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. > After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is again, > the Moon. > > 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. > > 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 and > H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. > > 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But I > do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. > > HUSBAND'S CHART > > General Comments > > 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is > relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the other. > Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing husband > likes to win. > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th lord > Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. > Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the > 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. > > 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. > > 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. > > 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same > ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. > Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his 8th. > And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from the > 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. > > 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on 7th > lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). > > 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in > H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has only > 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode > well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. > > 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. > Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the > application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from the > 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will give > poor results during its period. > > 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How > can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th > house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury and > Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural samdharmi > for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these > relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that the > father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital strife? > > The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the possibility > that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can see > that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of > life, and both like to win. > > > <% 40> , " chetan_11157 " > <chetan_11157@> wrote: > > > > Hello Sir > > > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he > > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want > to > > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz > > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to > > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > > > > my brother > > 23-10-1978 male > > 6.59 a.m > > place-pune > > > > his wifes details > > 01-06-1984 female > > 16.15 p.m > > place-miraj maharashtra > > 16.49 N > > 74.45 E > > > > some important events. > > > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > > coming back to india) > > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > > > regards > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Harikrishnan ji and group, If you were to time the event, using the lessons, you would get the answer. Unfortunately, not you nor anyone else including senior members, on the list has attempted. If anyone is stuck up and requires guidance, then I am willing to share my little knowledge of KAS, if someone wants the answer without attempting, I am not spoon feeding. As things stand now, it seems no one is interested and I am tired and now not interested in spoon feeding anyone any more. The lessons are given and there are archives for those who want to learn, if someone is genuinely interested and makes sincere attempt, I am here to help I shall not leave you without a hint. You have asked this question on another chart as well, and the answer lies in Timing of Event. Time the event and you will get your answer. I have spent a lot of time answering similar queries and it all should be in the archives. I do not want to spend my time repeating what has already been said. Good luck and I hope you find the answer, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Harikrishnan Monday January 19, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Ashji, Husband's chart shows some indications of unhappy marriage like lagna and 7th lord being in 2:12, 6th lord Jupiter aspecting the 2nd house and second lord and seventh lord with low points. But, why did the marriage happen in Mercury Antra is still beyond my understanding. Is Jupiter Samdharmi to Mercury here because of the 4:10 relationship? Is that the reason, you kept stressing on the Samdharmi concept? Thanks, Harikrishnan , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Nelson, > > You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of event of > marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for the marriage > date. You will get good practice. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of kenesawisland > Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM > > Re: marriage is in trouble plz help > > Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, > > As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first effort > to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my attempt > to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I realize > my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look for > your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. > > Nelson > > Data used: > > WIFE HUSBAND > JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 > 16.15 IST 06.59 IST > 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 > Miraj Maharashtra Pune > > 22:45:04 22:40:18 > Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 > > Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. > Assumption: that stated data is correct > > WIFE'S CHART > > General Comments > > 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, > while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature that > likes to win, perhaps? > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, > receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars > (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are in > 6:8 relationship, as well. > > 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from Venus' > nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's glance. > But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as > retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own sign, > and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and is > 12th lord from B. > > 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on > with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi > chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. > > 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of > Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. > After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is again, > the Moon. > > 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. > > 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 and > H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. > > 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But I > do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. > > HUSBAND'S CHART > > General Comments > > 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is > relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the other. > Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing husband > likes to win. > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th lord > Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. > Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the > 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. > > 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. > > 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. > > 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same > ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. > Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his 8th. > And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from the > 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. > > 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on 7th > lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). > > 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in > H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has only > 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode > well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. > > 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. > Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the > application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from the > 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will give > poor results during its period. > > 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How > can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th > house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury and > Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural samdharmi > for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these > relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that the > father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital strife? > > The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the possibility > that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can see > that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of > life, and both like to win. > > > <% 40> , " chetan_11157 " > <chetan_11157@> wrote: > > > > Hello Sir > > > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he > > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want > to > > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz > > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to > > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > > > > my brother > > 23-10-1978 male > > 6.59 a.m > > place-pune > > > > his wifes details > > 01-06-1984 female > > 16.15 p.m > > place-miraj maharashtra > > 16.49 N > > 74.45 E > > > > some important events. > > > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > > coming back to india) > > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > > > regards > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Dear Nelson ji, For your question regarding child, Mercury with 11 points is SD to Mars who has highest power and is LoD. So it is eager, but itself has less points, so more chances of having a female child. This has been discussed in some email and explained by Guru ji. If you check the wife of the native chart, you can see that antra running at the time of conception is that of Ve. Ve has the second highest power for 11th house and is LoD and placed in House D. It is also NSD to Sa which has the highest power. So the period is ripe for having a child in female chart, and in male chart the power of Me is less but its SD to Ma who is LoD so it become eager, but since its own power is less, more chances of having a female child. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of kenesawisland Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM To: Subject: Re: marriage is in trouble plz help Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first effort to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my attempt to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I realize my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look for your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. Nelson Data used: WIFE HUSBAND JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 16.15 IST 06.59 IST 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 Miraj Maharashtra Pune 22:45:04 22:40:18 Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. Assumption: that stated data is correct WIFE'S CHART General Comments 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature that likes to win, perhaps? 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are in 6:8 relationship, as well. 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from Venus' nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's glance. But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own sign, and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and is 12th lord from B. 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is again, the Moon. 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 and H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But I do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. HUSBAND'S CHART General Comments 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the other. Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing husband likes to win. 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th lord Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his 8th. And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from the 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on 7th lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has only 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from the 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will give poor results during its period. 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury and Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural samdharmi for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that the father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital strife? The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the possibility that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can see that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of life, and both like to win. , " chetan_11157 " <chetan_11157 wrote: > > Hello Sir > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. he > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want to > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > my brother > 23-10-1978 male > 6.59 a.m > place-pune > > his wifes details > 01-06-1984 female > 16.15 p.m > place-miraj maharashtra > 16.49 N > 74.45 E > > some important events. > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > coming back to india) > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Dear Ash ji, May be I have been missing something important. But I have been seeing that first the quality of marriage is determined and then the antra is fixed. I guess this is the way event is timed. Hence I was repeatedly asking this question that how did an unhappy marriage happen in the antra of a planet giving high points. If I am not following the right approach, then please correct me. , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Harikrishnan ji and group, > > If you were to time the event, using the lessons, you would get the answer. > Unfortunately, not you nor anyone else including senior members, on the list > has attempted. If anyone is stuck up and requires guidance, then I am > willing to share my little knowledge of KAS, if someone wants the answer > without attempting, I am not spoon feeding. > > As things stand now, it seems no one is interested and I am tired and now > not interested in spoon feeding anyone any more. > > The lessons are given and there are archives for those who want to learn, if > someone is genuinely interested and makes sincere attempt, I am here to help > > > I shall not leave you without a hint. You have asked this question on > another chart as well, and the answer lies in Timing of Event. Time the > event and you will get your answer. I have spent a lot of time answering > similar queries and it all should be in the archives. I do not want to > spend my time repeating what has already been said. > > Good luck and I hope you find the answer, > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > On Behalf Of Harikrishnan > Monday January 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > Re: marriage is in trouble plz help > > Dear Ashji, > > Husband's chart shows some indications of unhappy marriage like lagna > and 7th lord being in 2:12, 6th lord Jupiter aspecting the 2nd house > and second lord and seventh lord with low points. > > But, why did the marriage happen in Mercury Antra is still beyond my > understanding. Is Jupiter Samdharmi to Mercury here because of the > 4:10 relationship? Is that the reason, you kept stressing on the > Samdharmi concept? > > Thanks, > Harikrishnan > > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Nelson, > > > > You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of event of > > marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for the > marriage > > date. You will get good practice. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > <%40> > > [ > <%40> ] On Behalf Of > kenesawisland > > Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM > > > <%40> > > Re: marriage is in trouble plz > help > > > > Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, > > > > As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first effort > > to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my attempt > > to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I > realize > > my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look for > > your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. > > > > Nelson > > > > Data used: > > > > WIFE HUSBAND > > JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 > > 16.15 IST 06.59 IST > > 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 > > Miraj Maharashtra Pune > > > > 22:45:04 22:40:18 > > Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 > > > > Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. > > Assumption: that stated data is correct > > > > WIFE'S CHART > > > > General Comments > > > > 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, > > while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature > that > > likes to win, perhaps? > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, > > receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars > > (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are > in > > 6:8 relationship, as well. > > > > 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from Venus' > > nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's glance. > > But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as > > retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own sign, > > and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and is > > 12th lord from B. > > > > 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on > > with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi > > chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. > > > > 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of > > Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. > > After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is again, > > the Moon. > > > > 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. > > > > 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 > and > > H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. > > > > 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But I > > do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. > > > > HUSBAND'S CHART > > > > General Comments > > > > 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is > > relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the other. > > Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing husband > > likes to win. > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th > lord > > Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. > > Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the > > 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. > > > > 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. > > > > 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. > > > > 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same > > ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. > > Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his 8th. > > And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from the > > 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. > > > > 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on 7th > > lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). > > > > 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in > > H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has > only > > 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode > > well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. > > > > 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. > > Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the > > application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from the > > 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will give > > poor results during its period. > > > > 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How > > can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th > > house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury and > > Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural samdharmi > > for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these > > relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that the > > father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital > strife? > > > > The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the > possibility > > that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can see > > that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of > > life, and both like to win. > > > > > <%40> > > <% > 40> , " chetan_11157 " > > <chetan_11157@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Sir > > > > > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his wife. > he > > > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we want > > to > > > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. Plz > > > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want to > > > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > > > > > > > my brother > > > 23-10-1978 male > > > 6.59 a.m > > > place-pune > > > > > > his wifes details > > > 01-06-1984 female > > > 16.15 p.m > > > place-miraj maharashtra > > > 16.49 N > > > 74.45 E > > > > > > some important events. > > > > > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > > > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > > > coming back to india) > > > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > > > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Respected Guruji, Ashji, Harikrishnan ji and List members, My modem was spoiled so was unable to participate. Anyhow now got a new modem. With regards to the husband's chart in question one thing to be noticed is most of the planets are in Ju nakshatra except Su which is with Ju in D9. So there is 6th lord effect in all planets. There is no Sa delay, but Ju delay is there which gets over when Ju enters Aries. There are few points in the charts: 1. Sa aspects Su in D1 - 1st hit of Ju in Taurus 7th aspect to 7th lord. 2. Sa aspects Ve in D1 - 2nd hit by Ju in Gemini 5th aspect to 1st lord/house. 3. Sa aspects Su in D9 - 3rd hit by Ju in Cancer 5th aspect to 7th house. 4. Sa aspects Ve in D9 - 4th hit by Ju in Leo 5th aspect to 7th house. After all these rectifications by Ju, Ju antra was running. As there are 2 zeroes in the chart and when delay period and rectifications are considered leave Ju antra. As soon as Me antra started the native got married. Ju is in Libra when he got married. So even though by timing of events Me antra gave him marriage, 6th lord Ju's flavour is there in the marriage so not a happy marriage. Please let me know where I have made mistakes. Thanks Prabha , " Harikrishnan " <betahari wrote: > > Dear Ash ji, > > May be I have been missing something important. But I have been > seeing that first the quality of marriage is determined and then the > antra is fixed. I guess this is the way event is timed. > > Hence I was repeatedly asking this question that how did an unhappy > marriage happen in the antra of a planet giving high points. > > If I am not following the right approach, then please correct me. > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Harikrishnan ji and group, > > > > If you were to time the event, using the lessons, you would get the > answer. > > Unfortunately, not you nor anyone else including senior members, on > the list > > has attempted. If anyone is stuck up and requires guidance, then I > am > > willing to share my little knowledge of KAS, if someone wants the > answer > > without attempting, I am not spoon feeding. > > > > As things stand now, it seems no one is interested and I am tired > and now > > not interested in spoon feeding anyone any more. > > > > The lessons are given and there are archives for those who want to > learn, if > > someone is genuinely interested and makes sincere attempt, I am > here to help > > > > > > I shall not leave you without a hint. You have asked this question > on > > another chart as well, and the answer lies in Timing of Event. > Time the > > event and you will get your answer. I have spent a lot of time > answering > > similar queries and it all should be in the archives. I do not > want to > > spend my time repeating what has already been said. > > > > Good luck and I hope you find the answer, > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of > Harikrishnan > > Monday January 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > Re: marriage is in trouble plz > help > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > Husband's chart shows some indications of unhappy marriage like > lagna > > and 7th lord being in 2:12, 6th lord Jupiter aspecting the 2nd > house > > and second lord and seventh lord with low points. > > > > But, why did the marriage happen in Mercury Antra is still beyond > my > > understanding. Is Jupiter Samdharmi to Mercury here because of the > > 4:10 relationship? Is that the reason, you kept stressing on the > > Samdharmi concept? > > > > Thanks, > > Harikrishnan > > > > > > <%40> , " Ash's > Corner@ " > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nelson, > > > > > > You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of event > of > > > marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for the > > marriage > > > date. You will get good practice. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > [ > > <%40> ] On Behalf Of > > kenesawisland > > > Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM > > > > > <%40> > > > Re: marriage is in trouble > plz > > help > > > > > > Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, > > > > > > As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first > effort > > > to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my > attempt > > > to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I > > realize > > > my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look > for > > > your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. > > > > > > Nelson > > > > > > Data used: > > > > > > WIFE HUSBAND > > > JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 > > > 16.15 IST 06.59 IST > > > 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 > > > Miraj Maharashtra Pune > > > > > > 22:45:04 22:40:18 > > > Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 > > > > > > Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. > > > Assumption: that stated data is correct > > > > > > WIFE'S CHART > > > > > > General Comments > > > > > > 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, > > > while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature > > that > > > likes to win, perhaps? > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, > > > receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars > > > (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars are > > in > > > 6:8 relationship, as well. > > > > > > 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from > Venus' > > > nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's > glance. > > > But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as > > > retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own > sign, > > > and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and > is > > > 12th lord from B. > > > > > > 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on > > > with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the rasi > > > chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. > > > > > > 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of > > > Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. > > > After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is > again, > > > the Moon. > > > > > > 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. > > > > > > 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 > > and > > > H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. > > > > > > 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But > I > > > do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. > > > > > > HUSBAND'S CHART > > > > > > General Comments > > > > > > 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is > > > relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the > other. > > > Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing > husband > > > likes to win. > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th > > lord > > > Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st house. > > > Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in the > > > 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. > > > > > > 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. > > > > > > 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. > > > > > > 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same > > > ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. > > > Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his > 8th. > > > And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from > the > > > 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. > > > > > > 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on > 7th > > > lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). > > > > > > 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in > > > H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has > > only > > > 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode > > > well for their success as a married couple in the next few years. > > > > > > 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. > > > Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the > > > application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from > the > > > 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will > give > > > poor results during its period. > > > > > > 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. How > > > can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th > > > house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury > and > > > Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural > samdharmi > > > for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these > > > relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that > the > > > father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital > > strife? > > > > > > The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the > > possibility > > > that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can > see > > > that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio of > > > life, and both like to win. > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <% > > 40> , " chetan_11157 " > > > <chetan_11157@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Sir > > > > > > > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his > wife. > > he > > > > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we > want > > > to > > > > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. > Plz > > > > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want > to > > > > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > my brother > > > > 23-10-1978 male > > > > 6.59 a.m > > > > place-pune > > > > > > > > his wifes details > > > > 01-06-1984 female > > > > 16.15 p.m > > > > place-miraj maharashtra > > > > 16.49 N > > > > 74.45 E > > > > > > > > some important events. > > > > > > > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > > > > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( after > > > > coming back to india) > > > > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > > > > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 But Prabhaji, While timing the event, considering the fact that the chart shows signs of an unhappy marriage, would you have predicted his marriage in Me antra? , " prabha.acharya " <prabha.acharya wrote: > > Respected Guruji, Ashji, Harikrishnan ji and List members, > My modem was spoiled so was unable to participate. > Anyhow now got a new modem. > With regards to the husband's chart in question one thing to be > noticed is most of the planets are in Ju nakshatra except Su which is > with Ju in D9. So there is 6th lord effect in all planets. > There is no Sa delay, but Ju delay is there which gets over when Ju > enters Aries. There are few points in the charts: > 1. Sa aspects Su in D1 - 1st hit of Ju in Taurus 7th aspect to 7th > lord. > 2. Sa aspects Ve in D1 - 2nd hit by Ju in Gemini 5th aspect to 1st > lord/house. > 3. Sa aspects Su in D9 - 3rd hit by Ju in Cancer 5th aspect to 7th > house. > 4. Sa aspects Ve in D9 - 4th hit by Ju in Leo 5th aspect to 7th house. > > After all these rectifications by Ju, Ju antra was running. As there > are 2 zeroes in the chart and when delay period and rectifications are > considered leave Ju antra. As soon as Me antra started the native got > married. Ju is in Libra when he got married. > So even though by timing of events Me antra gave him marriage, 6th > lord Ju's flavour is there in the marriage so not a happy marriage. > Please let me know where I have made mistakes. > Thanks > Prabha > , " Harikrishnan " > <betahari@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > May be I have been missing something important. But I have been > > seeing that first the quality of marriage is determined and then the > > antra is fixed. I guess this is the way event is timed. > > > > Hence I was repeatedly asking this question that how did an unhappy > > marriage happen in the antra of a planet giving high points. > > > > If I am not following the right approach, then please correct me. > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harikrishnan ji and group, > > > > > > If you were to time the event, using the lessons, you would get > the > > answer. > > > Unfortunately, not you nor anyone else including senior members, > on > > the list > > > has attempted. If anyone is stuck up and requires guidance, then > I > > am > > > willing to share my little knowledge of KAS, if someone wants the > > answer > > > without attempting, I am not spoon feeding. > > > > > > As things stand now, it seems no one is interested and I am tired > > and now > > > not interested in spoon feeding anyone any more. > > > > > > The lessons are given and there are archives for those who want to > > learn, if > > > someone is genuinely interested and makes sincere attempt, I am > > here to help > > > > > > > > > I shall not leave you without a hint. You have asked this > question > > on > > > another chart as well, and the answer lies in Timing of Event. > > Time the > > > event and you will get your answer. I have spent a lot of time > > answering > > > similar queries and it all should be in the archives. I do not > > want to > > > spend my time repeating what has already been said. > > > > > > Good luck and I hope you find the answer, > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > Harikrishnan > > > Monday January 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > Re: marriage is in trouble plz > > help > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > Husband's chart shows some indications of unhappy marriage like > > lagna > > > and 7th lord being in 2:12, 6th lord Jupiter aspecting the 2nd > > house > > > and second lord and seventh lord with low points. > > > > > > But, why did the marriage happen in Mercury Antra is still beyond > > my > > > understanding. Is Jupiter Samdharmi to Mercury here because of the > > > 4:10 relationship? Is that the reason, you kept stressing on the > > > Samdharmi concept? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Harikrishnan > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " Ash's > > Corner@ " > > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nelson, > > > > > > > > You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of event > > of > > > > marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for the > > > marriage > > > > date. You will get good practice. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > [ > > > <%40> ] On Behalf Of > > > kenesawisland > > > > Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > Re: marriage is in trouble > > plz > > > help > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, > > > > > > > > As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first > > effort > > > > to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my > > attempt > > > > to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I > > > realize > > > > my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and look > > for > > > > your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. > > > > > > > > Nelson > > > > > > > > Data used: > > > > > > > > WIFE HUSBAND > > > > JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 > > > > 16.15 IST 06.59 IST > > > > 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 > > > > Miraj Maharashtra Pune > > > > > > > > 22:45:04 22:40:18 > > > > Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 > > > > > > > > Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. > > > > Assumption: that stated data is correct > > > > > > > > WIFE'S CHART > > > > > > > > General Comments > > > > > > > > 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv points, > > > > while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive nature > > > that > > > > likes to win, perhaps? > > > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with Rahu, > > > > receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord Mars > > > > (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars > are > > > in > > > > 6:8 relationship, as well. > > > > > > > > 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from > > Venus' > > > > nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's > > glance. > > > > But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as > > > > retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own > > sign, > > > > and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses and > > is > > > > 12th lord from B. > > > > > > > > 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried on > > > > with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the > rasi > > > > chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 relationship. > > > > > > > > 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar of > > > > Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to Venus. > > > > After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is > > again, > > > > the Moon. > > > > > > > > 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. > > > > > > > > 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in H7 > > > and > > > > H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. > > > > > > > > 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. But > > I > > > > do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house view. > > > > > > > > HUSBAND'S CHART > > > > > > > > General Comments > > > > > > > > 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is > > > > relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the > > other. > > > > Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing > > husband > > > > likes to win. > > > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with 12th > > > lord > > > > Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st > house. > > > > Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in > the > > > > 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. > > > > > > > > 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. > > > > > > > > 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. > > > > > > > > 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same > > > > ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. > > > > Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in his > > 8th. > > > > And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th from > > the > > > > 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. > > > > > > > > 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect on > > 7th > > > > lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 pts). > > > > > > > > 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points in > > > > H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter has > > > only > > > > 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not bode > > > > well for their success as a married couple in the next few > years. > > > > > > > > 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury antar. > > > > Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand the > > > > application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 from > > the > > > > 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will > > give > > > > poor results during its period. > > > > > > > > 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. > How > > > > can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto 5th > > > > house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are Mercury > > and > > > > Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural > > samdharmi > > > > for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do these > > > > relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way that > > the > > > > father's access to the child may be compromised by the marital > > > strife? > > > > > > > > The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the > > > possibility > > > > that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I can > > see > > > > that both charts show difficulties in the relational portfolio > of > > > > life, and both like to win. > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <% > > > 40> , " chetan_11157 " > > > > <chetan_11157@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sir > > > > > > > > > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his > > wife. > > > he > > > > > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved earlier.we > > want > > > > to > > > > > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in tension. > > Plz > > > > > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? want > > to > > > > > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my brother > > > > > 23-10-1978 male > > > > > 6.59 a.m > > > > > place-pune > > > > > > > > > > his wifes details > > > > > 01-06-1984 female > > > > > 16.15 p.m > > > > > place-miraj maharashtra > > > > > 16.49 N > > > > > 74.45 E > > > > > > > > > > some important events. > > > > > > > > > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > > > > > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( > after > > > > > coming back to india) > > > > > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > > > > > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Respected Guruji, Ashji, Harikrishnan ji and List members, No actually I would have gone for Ra antra. And also Ra is in House E so eager to give marriage. I would really like Ashji to help us out in this case. Thanks Prabha , " Harikrishnan " <betahari wrote: > > But Prabhaji, While timing the event, considering the fact that the > chart shows signs of an unhappy marriage, would you have predicted > his marriage in Me antra? > > > , " prabha.acharya " > <prabha.acharya@> wrote: > > > > Respected Guruji, Ashji, Harikrishnan ji and List members, > > My modem was spoiled so was unable to participate. > > Anyhow now got a new modem. > > With regards to the husband's chart in question one thing to be > > noticed is most of the planets are in Ju nakshatra except Su which > is > > with Ju in D9. So there is 6th lord effect in all planets. > > There is no Sa delay, but Ju delay is there which gets over when Ju > > enters Aries. There are few points in the charts: > > 1. Sa aspects Su in D1 - 1st hit of Ju in Taurus 7th aspect to 7th > > lord. > > 2. Sa aspects Ve in D1 - 2nd hit by Ju in Gemini 5th aspect to 1st > > lord/house. > > 3. Sa aspects Su in D9 - 3rd hit by Ju in Cancer 5th aspect to 7th > > house. > > 4. Sa aspects Ve in D9 - 4th hit by Ju in Leo 5th aspect to 7th > house. > > > > After all these rectifications by Ju, Ju antra was running. As > there > > are 2 zeroes in the chart and when delay period and rectifications > are > > considered leave Ju antra. As soon as Me antra started the native > got > > married. Ju is in Libra when he got married. > > So even though by timing of events Me antra gave him marriage, 6th > > lord Ju's flavour is there in the marriage so not a happy marriage. > > Please let me know where I have made mistakes. > > Thanks > > Prabha > > , " Harikrishnan " > > <betahari@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > May be I have been missing something important. But I have been > > > seeing that first the quality of marriage is determined and then > the > > > antra is fixed. I guess this is the way event is timed. > > > > > > Hence I was repeatedly asking this question that how did an > unhappy > > > marriage happen in the antra of a planet giving high points. > > > > > > If I am not following the right approach, then please correct me. > > > > > > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " > > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Harikrishnan ji and group, > > > > > > > > If you were to time the event, using the lessons, you would get > > the > > > answer. > > > > Unfortunately, not you nor anyone else including senior > members, > > on > > > the list > > > > has attempted. If anyone is stuck up and requires guidance, > then > > I > > > am > > > > willing to share my little knowledge of KAS, if someone wants > the > > > answer > > > > without attempting, I am not spoon feeding. > > > > > > > > As things stand now, it seems no one is interested and I am > tired > > > and now > > > > not interested in spoon feeding anyone any more. > > > > > > > > The lessons are given and there are archives for those who want > to > > > learn, if > > > > someone is genuinely interested and makes sincere attempt, I am > > > here to help > > > > > > > > > > > > I shall not leave you without a hint. You have asked this > > question > > > on > > > > another chart as well, and the answer lies in Timing of Event. > > > Time the > > > > event and you will get your answer. I have spent a lot of time > > > answering > > > > similar queries and it all should be in the archives. I do not > > > want to > > > > spend my time repeating what has already been said. > > > > > > > > Good luck and I hope you find the answer, > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > Harikrishnan > > > > Monday January 19, 2009 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > Re: marriage is in trouble > plz > > > help > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji, > > > > > > > > Husband's chart shows some indications of unhappy marriage like > > > lagna > > > > and 7th lord being in 2:12, 6th lord Jupiter aspecting the 2nd > > > house > > > > and second lord and seventh lord with low points. > > > > > > > > But, why did the marriage happen in Mercury Antra is still > beyond > > > my > > > > understanding. Is Jupiter Samdharmi to Mercury here because of > the > > > > 4:10 relationship? Is that the reason, you kept stressing on > the > > > > Samdharmi concept? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Harikrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> , " Ash's > > > Corner@ " > > > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nelson, > > > > > > > > > > You have made a good attempt. Also please see if timing of > event > > > of > > > > > marriage is in line for both charts i..e the calculation for > the > > > > marriage > > > > > date. You will get good practice. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > [ > > > > <%40> ] On Behalf > Of > > > > kenesawisland > > > > > Sunday January 18, 2009 1:07 PM > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > Re: marriage is in > trouble > > > plz > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Chetan and Group Members, > > > > > > > > > > As a very new student of KAS, please look kindly on my first > > > effort > > > > > to participate here. My goal was not to be exhaustive in my > > > attempt > > > > > to analyze, but simply to apply those rules I could grasp. I > > > > realize > > > > > my result suffers for this, but I make my start here, and > look > > > for > > > > > your guidance. Thank you for your understanding. > > > > > > > > > > Nelson > > > > > > > > > > Data used: > > > > > > > > > > WIFE HUSBAND > > > > > JUN 1 1984 OCT 23 1978 > > > > > 16.15 IST 06.59 IST > > > > > 16N49, 74E45 18N32, 73E52 > > > > > Miraj Maharashtra Pune > > > > > > > > > > 22:45:04 22:40:18 > > > > > Lg 11 LIB 38 Lg 12 LIB 21 > > > > > > > > > > Analysis to determine state of marriage, her behavior. > > > > > Assumption: that stated data is correct > > > > > > > > > > WIFE'S CHART > > > > > > > > > > General Comments > > > > > > > > > > 1. In both D1 and D9, houses 6 and 11 have the most Sarv > points, > > > > > while 1 and 7 are evenly balancedl, showing a competitive > nature > > > > that > > > > > likes to win, perhaps? > > > > > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, in the 8th, combust the Sun and with > Rahu, > > > > > receiving the malefic 8th aspect of the retrograde 7th lord > Mars > > > > > (6pts) from the 1st house. Lagna Lord Venus and 7th Lord Mars > > are > > > > in > > > > > 6:8 relationship, as well. > > > > > > > > > > 3. From Rohini, we look with hope for a softening effect from > > > Venus' > > > > > nakshatra lord, Moon, in the 9th house and receiving Guru's > > > glance. > > > > > But this placement is marred by Jupiter's malefic aspect as > > > > > retrograde 3rd and 6th lord with 5 points, strong in its own > > > sign, > > > > > and exalted in D9. Jupiter is also aspecting B and C houses > and > > > is > > > > > 12th lord from B. > > > > > > > > > > 4. In D9, the 8th house association with the lagna is carried > on > > > > > with 8th lord Mercury in the 1st house. And again, as in the > > rasi > > > > > chart, 1st lord Saturn and 7th lord Sun are in 6:8 > relationship. > > > > > > > > > > 5. Husband began to object to spouse's behavior during antar > of > > > > > Venus, and now in Sun this continues. Sun is samdharmi to > Venus. > > > > > After Sun, comes antar of Moon, Mars and Rahu, whose lord is > > > again, > > > > > the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > 6. Moon has 0 points for the 8th house. > > > > > > > > > > 7. Sun, Moon, Mars, Jupiter and Venus all with weak points in > H7 > > > > and > > > > > H4. For H12, Sun, Venus, Moon and Mars are weak. > > > > > > > > > > 8. Child born during Venus antar, which has 17 points in H5. > But > > > I > > > > > do not see how Venus or its samdharmis relate to 5th house > view. > > > > > > > > > > HUSBAND'S CHART > > > > > > > > > > General Comments > > > > > > > > > > 1. Sarv point balance for 1st and 7th houses in D1 and D9 is > > > > > relatively even, showing no overt domination one way or the > > > other. > > > > > Strongest points for 3rd, 6th and 11th house, also showing > > > husband > > > > > likes to win. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Lagna lord, Venus, retrograde in the 1st house, is with > 12th > > > > lord > > > > > Mercury. According to KAS rule, this spoils result for 1st > > house. > > > > > Although I do not know a rule for this, I see that Rahu is in > > the > > > > > 12th house of D1, and Rahu's lord Sun is also in the 1st. > > > > > > > > > > 3. 1st lord Venus is debilitated in D9 and with Rahu. > > > > > > > > > > 4. 1st lord Venus and 7th lord Mars are in 2:12 relationship. > > > > > > > > > > 5. It is interesting to note that both natives have the same > > > > > ascendant, and Moon in the 9th, although hers is in Ardra. > > > > > Therefore, his Venus is in her first house, but hers is in > his > > > 8th. > > > > > And her Mars is in his first, while his is in her 2nd (8th > from > > > the > > > > > 7th). These interrelationships could not be comfortable. > > > > > > > > > > 6. Note exalted Jupiter with 7 points and its malefic aspect > on > > > 7th > > > > > lord Mars, along with Saturn's malefic aspect as well (6 > pts). > > > > > > > > > > 7. Marriage was achieved during Mercury antar, with 23 points > in > > > > > H7. But this was followed by Ketu antar, whose lord Jupiter > has > > > > only > > > > > 8 points, with Venus following with 8 points. This does not > bode > > > > > well for their success as a married couple in the next few > > years. > > > > > > > > > > 8. I wonder how the husband's career was during Mercury > antar. > > > > > Mercury has 9 points in H10. Additionally, if I understand > the > > > > > application of the KAS rule correctly, Mercury, which is 4 > from > > > the > > > > > 10th house B, is the lord of 12th house from B, and thus will > > > give > > > > > poor results during its period. > > > > > > > > > > 9. Child born during Mercury antar, which has only 11 points. > > How > > > > > can that be? 5th lord Saturn is throwing malefic aspect onto > 5th > > > > > house. Saturn gets 0 ashtak points for the 5th. How are > Mercury > > > and > > > > > Saturn playing a role? Both Saturn's lord, Venus (natural > > > samdharmi > > > > > for Saturn) and its despositor, Sun, are with Mercury. Do > these > > > > > relationships conspire to give a child, but in such a way > that > > > the > > > > > father's access to the child may be compromised by the > marital > > > > strife? > > > > > > > > > > The above observations shed a very doubtful light on the > > > > possibility > > > > > that the marriage can be saved. As to the wife behaviors, I > can > > > see > > > > > that both charts show difficulties in the relational > portfolio > > of > > > > > life, and both like to win. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > <% > > > > 40> , " chetan_11157 " > > > > > <chetan_11157@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sir > > > > > > > > > > > > right now tensions are going on between my brother and his > > > wife. > > > > he > > > > > > is completly disturbed coz of the way she behaved > earlier.we > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > know about her behaviour. all of us are very much in > tension. > > > Plz > > > > > > feel free to give answers. how will be his married life?? > want > > > to > > > > > > know about her behaviour also. please feel free to answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my brother > > > > > > 23-10-1978 male > > > > > > 6.59 a.m > > > > > > place-pune > > > > > > > > > > > > his wifes details > > > > > > 01-06-1984 female > > > > > > 16.15 p.m > > > > > > place-miraj maharashtra > > > > > > 16.49 N > > > > > > 74.45 E > > > > > > > > > > > > some important events. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. got married on 5th july 2006. > > > > > > 2. his wife started behaving badly openly from april 07.( > > after > > > > > > coming back to india) > > > > > > 3. they had baby girl on 1st august 2007. > > > > > > 4. they are not staying together since aug 2007. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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