Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 i wud like to say it in hindi shah g laal kitab to rashi dekhti hi nahi usme likha hai "Rashi chord Nakshatra bhulaeya, na hi koi panchang liya, Mesh rashi khud lagan maan kar, 12 pakkey ghar jaan liya" now tell me will rashi effect during laal kitab????Atul Pande <uncomparablex2 wrote: Rohit Sharma Hi, Is it some sort of generalisation or you are speaking out of experience. I suppose the lagna will also have some influence. Like it is also generalised that Saturn in the 1st house the native generally would be dark. But I know somebody who has Saturn in the 1st house is fair like a foreigner loves to wear jwellery etc which contradicts the generalisation. I am just about learning the finer nuances of the subject so your help and guidance is soloicited Tahnks & Regards, Atul Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 hi , my sister has saturn in lagna , and she is dark , regardsPrashuOn 5/13/06, Rohit Sharma < dhanulagna wrote: i wud like to say it in hindi shah g laal kitab to rashi dekhti hi nahi usme likha hai " Rashi chord Nakshatra bhulaeya, na hi koi panchang liya, Mesh rashi khud lagan maan kar, 12 pakkey ghar jaan liya " now tell me will rashi effect during laal kitab????Atul Pande < uncomparablex2 wrote: Rohit Sharma Hi, Is it some sort of generalisation or you are speaking out of experience. I suppose the lagna will also have some influence. Like it is also generalised that Saturn in the 1st house the native generally would be dark. But I know somebody who has Saturn in the 1st house is fair like a foreigner loves to wear jwellery etc which contradicts the generalisation. I am just about learning the finer nuances of the subject so your help and guidance is soloicited Tahnks & Regards, Atul Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Beware: People will contact you on your personal mail offering remedies, far from transparency of this group. The risk is yours. Trust only if you initiate correspondence. Launching online course soon. This is a prelaunch intimation. Post your Lal Kitab related questions, clarifications, discussins with subject line starting with " LK Query " . This gets the moderator answering them immediately as these will be considered learning questions. Astrologers: Your ID will be banned if you solicit horoscopes/birth data on to your personal mail. If difficulties in organising remedies material, contact lalkitabremedies Please select " No email " option to avoid mails to your mailbox. Please be patient. Effort is to answer all queries systematically, queue wise based on Msg # no. Do remind if your message is missed. Generally, an answer to your query should happen within one week. Umesh Sharma, a professional astrologer, has most of the day consumed by his clients. Hence lag in answering queries. Post in group for free limited guidance. Send private mails to Umeshji only if ready to pay for full professional consultation. INSTRUCTION:- 1. DO ONLY ONE REMEDY IN ONE DAY, DURING DAY TIME. 2. SEND FEED BACK AFTER 15/43DAYS, AFTER HAVING PERFORMED THE REMEDIES. CAUTION: Although utmost care has been taken to select and suggest the remedies, remedies suggested are in good faith with the view to do welfare of Humanity. Consultees should observe and perform these only at their own will, accord and risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get delayed but bear fruit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Dear Mike, Well -- I can truthfully say that I am not full of knowledge or full of anything else (!) but you are kind of like entering a hospital and saying: Well I have this family history of heart disease. I am 27 and experienced palpitation and fainted earlier today when I was doing pranayama. Please diagnose my malady and prescribe an appropriate medication! I often do strenuous exercise and at times have felt a bit syncopal but never really collapsed! RR <PS: Best to post full birth data and full dates of a couple of important events that are more likely to be destined than trivial when posting such requests! Please understand that I am only doing a public service for astrologers and do not expect an answer from me, necessarily if you do decide to post your info based on my reminder> , " echo.echomike " <echo.echomike wrote: > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > delayed but bear fruit.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Dear Echo Pls state in which rashi/sign is sani in lagna. Even the aspects & placements of other planets hv to be considered. One cannot infer anything from just asking results of sani in lagna.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ echo.echomike <echo.echomike Saturday, 10 January, 2009 12:45:55 AM saturn in 1st house i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get delayed but bear fruit.. Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger at http://in.messenger./?wm=n/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Namaste, It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, the significations for Saturn can become weak. Regards, John R. , " echo.echomike " <echo.echomike wrote: > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > delayed but bear fruit.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear friend, As we are always provided a picture/understanding that saturn is only known for bad .you are correct saturn can make king and give power in lagna An occassion for giving public service and involvement in services are obvious faetures.we can not how ever miss strength of saturn and palcement of connected asterism.In lagna even a malefic planet can not do any harm.But then they have to face dishonour and disgrace too.Involvement in some scandals too are unavoidable.Their speech has some lack of clarity.some times depending on the sign of the lagna very satirical and critical in talk vrkrishnan ________________________________ John <jr_esq Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:41:04 AM Re: saturn in 1st house Namaste, It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, the significations for Saturn can become weak. Regards, John R. , " echo.echomike " <echo.echomike@ ...> wrote: > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > delayed but bear fruit.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear John, It is difficult to deduce from the single placement of a planet, without considering its degree, occupying the Nakshatra, checking the condition of the Lord of that nakshatra etc. Then comes the matter of aspects, its position in various D-Charts, location closer to BhavaSandhi or Bhava Madhya & also the dasa sequence.Since the question was raised regarding its general placement in Lagna, it was needless to cite few examples having Cancer Ascendants. Saturn is not always bad...it is due to grace of Saturn that people rise high in politics, Saturn represents the general mass.In a democratic republic, if you dont have support from the general mass, I doubt whether you will be able to be successful in politics & win elections, not considering the " unfair " means.However, Saturn's age old dictum " delay, but not denial " prevails. I hope you will take this message in a positive spirit, unlike other learned members of the group. Thank you, . , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste, > > It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and > Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of > the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. > > However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. > That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, > the significations for Saturn can become weak. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > , " echo.echomike " > <echo.echomike@> wrote: > > > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > > delayed but bear fruit.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear John, Krishna ji, well Indira Gandhis chart isa good example of Sani in Lagna and to an extented accentuated to power by the Parivarthana between Chandra and Sani isnt it it did give her charishma, good speech a mass leader who could steal the Mahatma Gandhis daughter image from thin air and never worked to dispell it even if it was her psychophants who spread the rumours. and she too paid the price of the gandhi tag -death by violent means. for most part of her life her health was not good may be post indipendence was better. Prashant ________________________________ vattem krishnan <bursar_99 Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:51:09 AM Re: Re: saturn in 1st house Dear friend, As we are always provided a picture/understandi ng that saturn is only known for bad .you are correct saturn can make king and give power in lagna An occassion for giving public service and involvement in services are obvious faetures.we can not how ever miss strength of saturn and palcement of connected asterism.In lagna even a malefic planet can not do any harm.But then they have to face dishonour and disgrace too.Involvement in some scandals too are unavoidable. Their speech has some lack of clarity.some times depending on the sign of the lagna very satirical and critical in talk vrkrishnan ____________ _________ _________ __ John <jr_esq > Sunday, January 11, 2009 3:41:04 AM Re: saturn in 1st house Namaste, It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, the significations for Saturn can become weak. Regards, John R. , " echo.echomike " <echo.echomike@ ...> wrote: > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > delayed but bear fruit.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 dear sir i have been followig this discussion i have satrun in first house my birth details are as follow date of birth 03/05/1965 time of birth 03:05:00 AM place of birth jamnagar gujarat india as per the discussion there is nothing worth mentionable in my life education : couldnt make to the topmost level profession ; ok married life : not ok finances : so so religious liking : very much i would request you to analyze my chirt to let me know whether saturn in first house is beneficial or not my personal humble opinion is that it has more important for evolution and completing our karmic debts rather than this positions and seats of honour with best regards dr vipul dave , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste, > > It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and > Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of > the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. > > However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. > That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, > the significations for Saturn can become weak. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > , " echo.echomike " > <echo.echomike@> wrote: > > > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > > delayed but bear fruit.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dear Dr Vipul In ur chart sani has made u a doctor, & by chart it looks like u r a dentist. Sani in lagna with mangal in 7th house indicates disturbed marital life. Debilated mercury in dhan bhav & its karak afflicted with rahu indicates average finances. Sani in lagna makes a person very lazy & slow in resonding. But mangals aspect has also made u aggressive in ur work, frequent frictions with spouse, it also makes u very aggressive & also ruthless in speech at times. Here sani is in its own mool trikona rashi hence facial colour is little dark or tanned skin. Sani is itself a spiritual planet & with presence of jupiter in 4th house makes u spiritually concious. But u will only hv inclination of spirituality not totally involved in spirituality.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ dr_vipuldave <dr_vipuldave Sunday, 11 January, 2009 2:49:37 PM Re: saturn in 1st house dear sir i have been followig this discussion i have satrun in first house my birth details are as follow date of birth 03/05/1965 time of birth 03:05:00 AM place of birth jamnagar gujarat india as per the discussion there is nothing worth mentionable in my life education : couldnt make to the topmost level profession ; ok married life : not ok finances : so so religious liking : very much i would request you to analyze my chirt to let me know whether saturn in first house is beneficial or not my personal humble opinion is that it has more important for evolution and completing our karmic debts rather than this positions and seats of honour with best regards dr vipul dave , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste, > > It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and > Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of > the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. > > However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. > That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, > the significations for Saturn can become weak. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > , " echo.echomike " > <echo.echomike@ > wrote: > > > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > > delayed but bear fruit.. > > > Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ Dear Members , Shani in first house per Jataka Parijata is in marana karaka sthana, so native feel like dying in the areas lorded by this planet in the chart, this position is always inauspicious; for further analysis we should see the position of Surya in kundali, avastha of Shani and sign of Lagna. Per Saravali Meena and Dhanus are good sign for Shani, both Cap and Aqu also are favourable for Shani and if thats the Lagna then native rises from that situation of marana karaka sthana by own effort, this also grants Sasa Mahapurusa Yoga. Regards Rafal Gendarz -------------- /*Consultations & Pages* http://rohinaa.com rafal/ > > > dear sir i have been followig this discussion > > i have satrun in first house > my birth details are as follow > date of birth 03/05/1965 > time of birth 03:05:00 AM > place of birth jamnagar gujarat india > > as per the discussion there is nothing worth mentionable in my life > education : couldnt make to the topmost level > profession ; ok > married life : not ok > finances : so so > religious liking : very much > > i would request you to analyze my chirt to let me know whether saturn > in first house is beneficial or not > > my personal humble opinion is that it has more important for > evolution and completing our karmic debts rather than this positions > and seats of honour > > with best regards > dr vipul dave > > > <%40>, " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > > > Namaste, > > > > It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush > and > > Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents > of > > the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present > time. > > > > However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the > lagna. > > That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other > words, > > the significations for Saturn can become weak. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " echo.echomike " > > <echo.echomike@ > wrote: > > > > > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full > astrologers of > > > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what > does > > > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and > strange > > > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what > kind > > > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition > even > > > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always > get > > > delayed but bear fruit.. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 , Rafał Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > /*om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*/ > Dear Members , > > Shani in first house per Jataka Parijata is in marana karaka sthana, so > native feel like dying in the areas lorded by this planet in the chart, > this position is always inauspicious; for further analysis > we should see the position of Surya in kundali, avastha of Shani and > sign of Lagna. Per Saravali Meena and Dhanus are good sign for Shani, > both Cap and Aqu also are favourable for Shani > and if thats the Lagna then native rises from that situation of marana > karaka sthana by own effort, this also grants Sasa Mahapurusa Yoga. > but if also if saturn occupies any first five houses of the horoscope..then jupiter declines all its results for the native...is this true..i heard this from a famous astrologer on television.. > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > -------------- > /*Consultations & Pages* > http://rohinaa.com > rafal/ > > > > > > dear sir i have been followig this discussion > > > > i have satrun in first house > > my birth details are as follow > > date of birth 03/05/1965 > > time of birth 03:05:00 AM > > place of birth jamnagar gujarat india > > > > as per the discussion there is nothing worth mentionable in my life > > education : couldnt make to the topmost level > > profession ; ok > > married life : not ok > > finances : so so > > religious liking : very much > > > > i would request you to analyze my chirt to let me know whether saturn > > in first house is beneficial or not > > > > my personal humble opinion is that it has more important for > > evolution and completing our karmic debts rather than this positions > > and seats of honour > > > > with best regards > > dr vipul dave > > > > > > <%40>, " John " <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush > > and > > > Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents > > of > > > the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present > > time. > > > > > > However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the > > lagna. > > > That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other > > words, > > > the significations for Saturn can become weak. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > John R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, " echo.echomike " > > > <echo.echomike@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full > > astrologers of > > > > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what > > does > > > > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and > > strange > > > > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what > > kind > > > > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition > > even > > > > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always > > get > > > > delayed but bear fruit.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 and also sir,is this true that if saturn occupies any first five houses of the horoscope then the juipter decline all it's results..i heard this from a famous astrologer on t.v..he was telling it generally and not looking at some particular horoscope..or not about any particular star sign.. ________________________________ <gaurav.ghosh Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:41:00 PM Re: saturn in 1st house ||Jai Ramakrishna| | Dear John, It is difficult to deduce from the single placement of a planet, without considering its degree, occupying the Nakshatra, checking the condition of the Lord of that nakshatra etc. Then comes the matter of aspects, its position in various D-Charts, location closer to BhavaSandhi or Bhava Madhya & also the dasa sequence.Since the question was raised regarding its general placement in Lagna, it was needless to cite few examples having Cancer Ascendants. Saturn is not always bad...it is due to grace of Saturn that people rise high in politics, Saturn represents the general mass.In a democratic republic, if you dont have support from the general mass, I doubt whether you will be able to be successful in politics & win elections, not considering the " unfair " means.However, Saturn's age old dictum " delay, but not denial " prevails. I hope you will take this message in a positive spirit, unlike other learned members of the group. Thank you, . , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste, > > It appears that Saturn is good for Cancer ascendants. Both Bush and > Clinton have Saturn in their lagnas and they became the presidents of > the US, perhaps the most powerful position on earth at the present time. > > However, there is an inherent disadvantage for Saturn in the lagna. > That position in the marana karaka sthana for Shani. In other words, > the significations for Saturn can become weak. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > , " echo.echomike " > <echo.echomike@ > wrote: > > > > i want to ask from all the respected and knowledge full astrologers of > > this group that if shani is in lagan and in good condition..what does > > this signify..well i searched on web and found different and strange > > results..some says it is worst and some says it is good but what kind > > of results actually it give..whether if it is in good condition even > > then it is possible that all the works of the native will always get > > delayed but bear fruit.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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