Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

[Guest guest]

Namaskara all

 

 

Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to study

spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha - with

to planetary aspect -

 

He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the yoga

 

 

Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

spirituality and working towards its it

 

The birth details are as followed

 

August 26, 1977

Time: 17:30:00

Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

Kortrijk, Belgium

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

 

Sunrise: 6:56:27

Sunset: 20:39:59

Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

 

Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

 

Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution? As

AL has rahu ?

 

 

Thanks

Nandana

[Guest guest]

Dear Nandana ji,

 

For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that advanced,

if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such mistakes?

 

Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

question and must be the focus of the seeker!

 

If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and see

what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

escape.

 

I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

otherwise!

 

Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the obvious

and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, " Nandana astro "

<nandanaastro wrote:

>

> Namaskara all

>

>

> Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to

study

> spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

with

> to planetary aspect -

>

> He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the yoga

>

>

> Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

> spirituality and working towards its it

>

> The birth details are as followed

>

> August 26, 1977

> Time: 17:30:00

> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> Kortrijk, Belgium

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

>

> Sunrise: 6:56:27

> Sunset: 20:39:59

> Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

>

> Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

>

> Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution? As

> AL has rahu ?

>

>

> Thanks

> Nandana

>

[Guest guest]

Dear nanda ji,

The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is with venus in

cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from lagna.

Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus and lord is with

the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and

8th from lagna has 21AV.These sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces

sign in 11th makes the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for

an Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha ruled by

sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the native.Several

interests of worldly nature progressively take back seat.his temperment changes

certainly ar very short intervals.he seems to be lost in his pursuits of common

interest.

Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

vrkrishnan

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

 

 

Dear Nandana ji,

 

For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that advanced,

if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such mistakes?

 

Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

question and must be the focus of the seeker!

 

If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and see

what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

escape.

 

I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

otherwise!

 

Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the obvious

and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Nandana astro "

<nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

>

> Namaskara all

>

>

> Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to

study

> spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

with

> to planetary aspect -

>

> He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the yoga

>

>

> Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

> spirituality and working towards its it

>

> The birth details are as followed

>

> August 26, 1977

> Time: 17:30:00

> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> Kortrijk, Belgium

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

>

> Sunrise: 6:56:27

> Sunset: 20:39:59

> Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

>

> Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

>

> Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution? As

> AL has rahu ?

>

>

> Thanks

> Nandana

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Krishnan dada,

 

You are overly kind but the only point I was trying to make was: If

Tapasvi Yoga is all we needed to REALIZE the TRUTH, then Tapasyaa as

an arduous and serious pursuit would become meaningless!

 

I have never believed in the adage: We are God's toys! Although, I

truly believe that we were created to please Him and Her, our Parents!

 

Same word: pleasure but what a difference -- as ordinary householders

who have been successful or at least loving parents would relate to!

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear nanda ji,

> The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is with

venus in cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from lagna.

> Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus and

lord is with the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of

rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and 8th from lagna has 21AV.These

sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces sign in 11th makes

the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for an

Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha ruled

by sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the

native.Several interests of worldly nature progressively take back

seat.his temperment changes certainly ar very short intervals.he

seems to be lost in his pursuits of common interest.

> Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

> vrkrishnan

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

> Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

>

>

> Dear Nandana ji,

>

> For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

advanced,

> if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

mistakes?

>

> Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

> question and must be the focus of the seeker!

>

> If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

> the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and see

> what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

> the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

> escape.

>

> I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

> otherwise!

>

> Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

obvious

> and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Nandana astro "

> <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskara all

> >

> >

> > Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to

> study

> > spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> > The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

> with

> > to planetary aspect -

> >

> > He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the

yoga

> >

> >

> > Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

> > spirituality and working towards its it

> >

> > The birth details are as followed

> >

> > August 26, 1977

> > Time: 17:30:00

> > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> > Kortrijk, Belgium

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> > Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> >

> > Sunrise: 6:56:27

> > Sunset: 20:39:59

> > Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

> >

> > Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> > Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

> >

> > Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution?

As

> > AL has rahu ?

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> > Nandana

> >

 

[Guest guest]

Although I support Rohiniranjan jee's view, I would like to add Arjun's saying

from MBh that what actually befalls us is a mix of Praarabdha and Purushaartha.

My personal experience is that Tapasya has a power to modify destiny, and dashaa

of auspicious planets can enhance one's capacity to undertake Tapasya upto

inconceivable levels. During dashaa of highly malefic planets, even propitiation

of planets cannot be properly conducted : some mishap occurs, unless one is too

determined ...

 

-VJ

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:44:26 AM

Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

 

 

Krishnan dada,

 

You are overly kind but the only point I was trying to make was: If

Tapasvi Yoga is all we needed to REALIZE the TRUTH, then Tapasyaa as

an arduous and serious pursuit would become meaningless!

 

I have never believed in the adage: We are God's toys! Although, I

truly believe that we were created to please Him and Her, our Parents!

 

Same word: pleasure but what a difference -- as ordinary householders

who have been successful or at least loving parents would relate to!

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear nanda ji,

> The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is with

venus in cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from lagna.

> Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus and

lord is with the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of

rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and 8th from lagna has 21AV.These

sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces sign in 11th makes

the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for an

Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha ruled

by sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the

native.Several interests of worldly nature progressively take back

seat.his temperment changes certainly ar very short intervals.he

seems to be lost in his pursuits of common interest.

> Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

> vrkrishnan

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

> Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

>

>

> Dear Nandana ji,

>

> For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

advanced,

> if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

mistakes?

>

> Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

> question and must be the focus of the seeker!

>

> If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

> the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and see

> what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

> the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

> escape.

>

> I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

> otherwise!

>

> Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

obvious

> and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Nandana astro "

> <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskara all

> >

> >

> > Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to

> study

> > spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> > The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

> with

> > to planetary aspect -

> >

> > He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the

yoga

> >

> >

> > Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

> > spirituality and working towards its it

> >

> > The birth details are as followed

> >

> > August 26, 1977

> > Time: 17:30:00

> > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> > Kortrijk, Belgium

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> > Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> >

> > Sunrise: 6:56:27

> > Sunset: 20:39:59

> > Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

> >

> > Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> > Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

> >

> > Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution?

As

> > AL has rahu ?

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> > Nandana

> >

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Friends,

Probably we seem to be diverting a bit from configuration of planets,yogas they

tend to make and the obvious results they show to issues involving remedial

courses and reducing/enhancing the effects of planets by virtue of our karmas

otherwise actions.

Rohini ji clarity emanates from the fact of an execise like Tapasya which is

almost out of reach normally for a human being.But incase if wants to indluge

seeking pleasure,the difference can be obvious.it is like scaling Mount Everest

 

for the Sake of Pleasure.Exceptions are not common and Tapasya yoga is uncommon

and if such persiste in once chart,we have to see why the native has deviated

and adopted to such a highly arduous task.Must be seeking pleasure.It should be

different for the one who indulges in such difficult form of action

vrkrishnan

 

 

________________________________

Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

 

Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:45:10 PM

Re: Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

 

 

Although I support Rohiniranjan jee's view, I would like to add Arjun's saying

from MBh that what actually befalls us is a mix of Praarabdha and Purushaartha.

My personal experience is that Tapasya has a power to modify destiny, and dashaa

of auspicious planets can enhance one's capacity to undertake Tapasya upto

inconceivable levels. During dashaa of highly malefic planets, even propitiation

of planets cannot be properly conducted : some mishap occurs, unless one is too

determined ...

 

-VJ

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

 

Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:44:26 AM

Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

 

Krishnan dada,

 

You are overly kind but the only point I was trying to make was: If

Tapasvi Yoga is all we needed to REALIZE the TRUTH, then Tapasyaa as

an arduous and serious pursuit would become meaningless!

 

I have never believed in the adage: We are God's toys! Although, I

truly believe that we were created to please Him and Her, our Parents!

 

Same word: pleasure but what a difference -- as ordinary householders

who have been successful or at least loving parents would relate to!

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear nanda ji,

> The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is with

venus in cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from lagna.

> Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus and

lord is with the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of

rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and 8th from lagna has 21AV.These

sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces sign in 11th makes

the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for an

Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha ruled

by sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the

native.Several interests of worldly nature progressively take back

seat.his temperment changes certainly ar very short intervals.he

seems to be lost in his pursuits of common interest.

> Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

> vrkrishnan

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

> Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

>

>

> Dear Nandana ji,

>

> For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

advanced,

> if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

mistakes?

>

> Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

> question and must be the focus of the seeker!

>

> If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

> the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and see

> what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

> the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

> escape.

>

> I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

> otherwise!

>

> Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

obvious

> and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Nandana astro "

> <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskara all

> >

> >

> > Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to

> study

> > spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> > The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

> with

> > to planetary aspect -

> >

> > He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the

yoga

> >

> >

> > Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

> > spirituality and working towards its it

> >

> > The birth details are as followed

> >

> > August 26, 1977

> > Time: 17:30:00

> > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> > Kortrijk, Belgium

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> > Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> >

> > Sunrise: 6:56:27

> > Sunset: 20:39:59

> > Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

> >

> > Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> > Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

> >

> > Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution?

As

> > AL has rahu ?

> >

> >

> > Thanks

> > Nandana

> >

 

[Guest guest]

Namaskara Rohini ji,

 

I am not and astrolger - i am just a student who have only a

very very limited knowledge - ie why i as asking doubts - so that

i can correct my mistakes and learn.

 

Thanks

Nandana

 

2009/1/10 Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan:

> Dear Nandana ji,

>

> For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that advanced,

> if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such mistakes?

>

> Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

> question and must be the focus of the seeker!

>

> If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

> the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and see

> what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

> the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

> escape.

>

> I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

> otherwise!

>

> Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the obvious

> and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nandana ji,

 

Unless I am confusing you with someone else, I presume you are a

practising homeopathic healer, right? For someone of your experience

to decide to widen the horizons further by opting to learn astrology

is in my perspective an indication of exponential advancement.

 

I still maintain that the best way to deal with the situation when we

study a yoga or find a yoga etc claimed to cause this or that, even

when it makes perfect logical sense -- is to break out some charts

and do retrospective comparison.

 

I would just reiterate caution regarding choosing charts that are of

celebrities etc unless we know that the data is verified and solid.

And from recent times. And keep detailed notes but I should not have

to remind you about that little detail since you are probably already

aware of the procedure of 'prooving' etc.

 

RR

 

, " Nandana astro "

<nandanaastro wrote:

>

> Namaskara Rohini ji,

>

> I am not and astrolger - i am just a student who have only a

> very very limited knowledge - ie why i as asking doubts - so

that

> i can correct my mistakes and learn.

>

> Thanks

> Nandana

>

> 2009/1/10 Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan:

> > Dear Nandana ji,

> >

> > For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> > mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

advanced,

> > if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

mistakes?

> >

> > Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

> > question and must be the focus of the seeker!

> >

> > If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull out

> > the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> > Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and

see

> > what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status and

> > the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

> > escape.

> >

> > I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

> > otherwise!

> >

> > Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

obvious

> > and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Krishnan Dada,

 

I beg to differ. For me 'tapasya' is not a black or white state,

process or possibility. For many tapasyaa may have been understood as

annihilation or incineration, but I have always visualized it as

transformation. Kind of like monomers coming together and being

subjected to gruelling conditions which transform those discrete

entities into a polymer.

 

I am not thinking 'plastic' bags here which are a big environmental

responsiblity and headache for Mother Earth but " creation " of life,

if you catch my drift!

 

I truly believe that CREATION that we take for granted in our naivity

was a product of Divine Tapasyaa!

 

Please feel free to disagree and show me my place...

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Probably we seem to be diverting a bit from configuration of

planets,yogas they tend to make and the obvious results they show to

issues involving remedial courses and reducing/enhancing the effects

of planets by virtue of our karmas otherwise actions.

> Rohini ji clarity emanates from the fact of an execise like Tapasya

which is almost out of reach normally for a human being.But incase if

wants to indluge seeking pleasure,the difference can be obvious.it is

like scaling Mount Everest

>

> for the Sake of Pleasure.Exceptions are not common and Tapasya

yoga is uncommon and if such persiste in once chart,we have to see

why the native has deviated and adopted to such a highly arduous

task.Must be seeking pleasure.It should be different for the one who

indulges in such difficult form of action

> vrkrishnan

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:45:10 PM

> Re: Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

>

>

> Although I support Rohiniranjan jee's view, I would like to add

Arjun's saying from MBh that what actually befalls us is a mix of

Praarabdha and Purushaartha. My personal experience is that Tapasya

has a power to modify destiny, and dashaa of auspicious planets can

enhance one's capacity to undertake Tapasya upto inconceivable

levels. During dashaa of highly malefic planets, even propitiation of

planets cannot be properly conducted : some mishap occurs, unless one

is too determined ...

>

> -VJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

>

> Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:44:26 AM

> Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

>

> Krishnan dada,

>

> You are overly kind but the only point I was trying to make was: If

> Tapasvi Yoga is all we needed to REALIZE the TRUTH, then Tapasyaa

as

> an arduous and serious pursuit would become meaningless!

>

> I have never believed in the adage: We are God's toys! Although, I

> truly believe that we were created to please Him and Her, our

Parents!

>

> Same word: pleasure but what a difference -- as ordinary

householders

> who have been successful or at least loving parents would relate to!

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear nanda ji,

> > The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is

with

> venus in cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from

lagna.

> > Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus

and

> lord is with the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of

> rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and 8th from lagna has 21AV.These

> sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces sign in 11th

makes

> the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for an

> Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha ruled

> by sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the

> native.Several interests of worldly nature progressively take back

> seat.his temperment changes certainly ar very short intervals.he

> seems to be lost in his pursuits of common interest.

> > Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >

> > Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

> > Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> >

> >

> > Dear Nandana ji,

> >

> > For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> > mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

> advanced,

> > if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

> mistakes?

> >

> > Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the real

> > question and must be the focus of the seeker!

> >

> > If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull

out

> > the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> > Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and

see

> > what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status

and

> > the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and spiritual

> > escape.

> >

> > I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and not

> > otherwise!

> >

> > Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

> obvious

> > and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Nandana astro "

> > <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaskara all

> > >

> > >

> > > Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality -

to

> > study

> > > spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> > > The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

 

> > with

> > > to planetary aspect -

> > >

> > > He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the

> yoga

> > >

> > >

> > > Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the

true

> > > spirituality and working towards its it

> > >

> > > The birth details are as followed

> > >

> > > August 26, 1977

> > > Time: 17:30:00

> > > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> > > Kortrijk, Belgium

> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > >

> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> > > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> > >

> > > Sunrise: 6:56:27

> > > Sunset: 20:39:59

> > > Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

> > >

> > > Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> > > Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

> > >

> > > Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution?

> As

> > > AL has rahu ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Nandana

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Krishnan dada,

 

Sorry for repeated posting but I thought it was important to convey

the broader picture!

 

******************

TAPASYAA

 

We humans make such a big deal of it...!

Some of us equate it with self-annihilation

Others -- with total consumption

Still others with transformation and polymerization

 

But for an orphaned kitten...

That was accidentally 'found' and then found love from so many,

Laying near the front-door night after night, still ...

For her unforgotten *Galahad* to arrive and pick her up = Tapasyaa?

 

Sometimes *animals* teach us humans a lot ...

If only we shall pay attention ...

I wonder why...

Some of our revered AWATARS happened to be designated as animals?

******************

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Krishnan Dada,

>

> I beg to differ. For me 'tapasya' is not a black or white state,

> process or possibility. For many tapasyaa may have been understood

as

> annihilation or incineration, but I have always visualized it as

> transformation. Kind of like monomers coming together and being

> subjected to gruelling conditions which transform those discrete

> entities into a polymer.

>

> I am not thinking 'plastic' bags here which are a big environmental

> responsiblity and headache for Mother Earth but " creation " of life,

> if you catch my drift!

>

> I truly believe that CREATION that we take for granted in our

naivity

> was a product of Divine Tapasyaa!

>

> Please feel free to disagree and show me my place...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Probably we seem to be diverting a bit from configuration of

> planets,yogas they tend to make and the obvious results they show

to

> issues involving remedial courses and reducing/enhancing the

effects

> of planets by virtue of our karmas otherwise actions.

> > Rohini ji clarity emanates from the fact of an execise like

Tapasya

> which is almost out of reach normally for a human being.But incase

if

> wants to indluge seeking pleasure,the difference can be obvious.it

is

> like scaling Mount Everest

> >

> > for the Sake of Pleasure.Exceptions are not common and Tapasya

> yoga is uncommon and if such persiste in once chart,we have to see

> why the native has deviated and adopted to such a highly arduous

> task.Must be seeking pleasure.It should be different for the one

who

> indulges in such difficult form of action

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@>

> >

> > Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:45:10 PM

> > Re: Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> >

> >

> > Although I support Rohiniranjan jee's view, I would like to add

> Arjun's saying from MBh that what actually befalls us is a mix of

> Praarabdha and Purushaartha. My personal experience is that Tapasya

> has a power to modify destiny, and dashaa of auspicious planets

can

> enhance one's capacity to undertake Tapasya upto inconceivable

> levels. During dashaa of highly malefic planets, even propitiation

of

> planets cannot be properly conducted : some mishap occurs, unless

one

> is too determined ...

> >

> > -VJ

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:44:26 AM

> > Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> >

> > Krishnan dada,

> >

> > You are overly kind but the only point I was trying to make was:

If

> > Tapasvi Yoga is all we needed to REALIZE the TRUTH, then Tapasyaa

> as

> > an arduous and serious pursuit would become meaningless!

> >

> > I have never believed in the adage: We are God's toys! Although,

I

> > truly believe that we were created to please Him and Her, our

> Parents!

> >

> > Same word: pleasure but what a difference -- as ordinary

> householders

> > who have been successful or at least loving parents would relate

to!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear nanda ji,

> > > The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is

> with

> > venus in cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from

> lagna.

> > > Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus

> and

> > lord is with the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of

> > rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and 8th from lagna has 21AV.These

> > sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces sign in 11th

> makes

> > the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for an

> > Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha

ruled

> > by sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the

> > native.Several interests of worldly nature progressively take

back

> > seat.his temperment changes certainly ar very short intervals.he

> > seems to be lost in his pursuits of common interest.

> > > Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > >

> > > Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

> > > Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Nandana ji,

> > >

> > > For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> > > mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

> > advanced,

> > > if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

> > mistakes?

> > >

> > > Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the

real

> > > question and must be the focus of the seeker!

> > >

> > > If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull

> out

> > > the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> > > Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and

> see

> > > what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status

> and

> > > the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and

spiritual

> > > escape.

> > >

> > > I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and

not

> > > otherwise!

> > >

> > > Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

> > obvious

> > > and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Nandana astro "

> > > <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskara all

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality -

> to

> > > study

> > > > spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> > > > The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in

navamsha -

>

> > > with

> > > > to planetary aspect -

> > > >

> > > > He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing

the

> > yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the

> true

> > > > spirituality and working towards its it

> > > >

> > > > The birth details are as followed

> > > >

> > > > August 26, 1977

> > > > Time: 17:30:00

> > > > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> > > > Kortrijk, Belgium

> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > >

> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> > > > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> > > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > > > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> > > >

> > > > Sunrise: 6:56:27

> > > > Sunset: 20:39:59

> > > > Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> > > > Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

> > > >

> > > > Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution?

> > As

> > > > AL has rahu ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Nandana

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohin dada,

..The broad picture too from the context of tapasvis(by accident) and from

jyotish understandings to is meaningful.Thanx.

The following makes sense and reality and so not much to contardict.For an avid

follower of philosophy and also the great scinece of astrology,your

clarifications are always means to broad understanding of various issues

" But for an orphaned kitten...That was accidentally 'found' and then found love

from so many

Sometimes " animal teach us humans a lot ...If only we shall pay attention " .

From animals to man is an evolution(process).What science infers.Then if self

actualisation comes(to a man)even by accident .Some meaning for tapasya can be

made to realise that between animals and the man difference

lies in showing gratitude and faithfulness.,That is the worth and might be

truth.Great souls

are those who think only of " Prani " (a living being).For them bipeds and

quadrupeds are

of little sense...Yet they observe that animals have some sense of superiority

over the mankind.That way the abstraction and visualisation of the universe

looks for some different.

best regards

krishnan dada

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:44:12 PM

Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

 

 

Krishnan dada,

 

Sorry for repeated posting but I thought it was important to convey

the broader picture!

 

************ ******

TAPASYAA

 

We humans make such a big deal of it...!

Some of us equate it with self-annihilation

Others -- with total consumption

Still others with transformation and polymerization

 

But for an orphaned kitten...

That was accidentally 'found' and then found love from so many,

Laying near the front-door night after night, still ...

For her unforgotten *Galahad* to arrive and pick her up = Tapasyaa?

 

Sometimes *animals* teach us humans a lot ...

If only we shall pay attention ...

I wonder why...

Some of our revered AWATARS happened to be designated as animals?

************ ******

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Krishnan Dada,

>

> I beg to differ. For me 'tapasya' is not a black or white state,

> process or possibility. For many tapasyaa may have been understood

as

> annihilation or incineration, but I have always visualized it as

> transformation. Kind of like monomers coming together and being

> subjected to gruelling conditions which transform those discrete

> entities into a polymer.

>

> I am not thinking 'plastic' bags here which are a big environmental

> responsiblity and headache for Mother Earth but " creation " of life,

> if you catch my drift!

>

> I truly believe that CREATION that we take for granted in our

naivity

> was a product of Divine Tapasyaa!

>

> Please feel free to disagree and show me my place...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> > Probably we seem to be diverting a bit from configuration of

> planets,yogas they tend to make and the obvious results they show

to

> issues involving remedial courses and reducing/enhancing the

effects

> of planets by virtue of our karmas otherwise actions.

> > Rohini ji clarity emanates from the fact of an execise like

Tapasya

> which is almost out of reach normally for a human being.But incase

if

> wants to indluge seeking pleasure,the difference can be obvious.it

is

> like scaling Mount Everest

> >

> > for the Sake of Pleasure.Exceptions are not common and Tapasya

> yoga is uncommon and if such persiste in once chart,we have to see

> why the native has deviated and adopted to such a highly arduous

> task.Must be seeking pleasure.It should be different for the one

who

> indulges in such difficult form of action

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Vinay Jha <vinayjhaa16@ >

> >

> > Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:45:10 PM

> > Re: Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> >

> >

> > Although I support Rohiniranjan jee's view, I would like to add

> Arjun's saying from MBh that what actually befalls us is a mix of

> Praarabdha and Purushaartha. My personal experience is that Tapasya

> has a power to modify destiny, and dashaa of auspicious planets

can

> enhance one's capacity to undertake Tapasya upto inconceivable

> levels. During dashaa of highly malefic planets, even propitiation

of

> planets cannot be properly conducted : some mishap occurs, unless

one

> is too determined ...

> >

> > -VJ

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:44:26 AM

> > Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> >

> > Krishnan dada,

> >

> > You are overly kind but the only point I was trying to make was:

If

> > Tapasvi Yoga is all we needed to REALIZE the TRUTH, then Tapasyaa

> as

> > an arduous and serious pursuit would become meaningless!

> >

> > I have never believed in the adage: We are God's toys! Although,

I

> > truly believe that we were created to please Him and Her, our

> Parents!

> >

> > Same word: pleasure but what a difference -- as ordinary

> householders

> > who have been successful or at least loving parents would relate

to!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , vattem krishnan

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear nanda ji,

> > > The chart based on the data clearly shows atmakarak saturn is

> with

> > venus in cancer is aspected by the moon,lord of 8th house from

> lagna.

> > > Moon in 2nd from lagna in own nakshtra. Lagna being sagittarus

> and

> > lord is with the lord of 12th house in ardra nakshtra of

> > rahu.Interestingly 19 AV bindus and 8th from lagna has 21AV.These

> > sgnifications loudly speak how Atmakarak in pisces sign in 11th

> makes

> > the individual.These inferences are eloquent and obvious for an

> > Astrologer .dasa lord Rahu is with venus in the sign of simha

ruled

> > by sun.what eles we need to conclude about the interests of the

> > native.Several interests of worldly nature progressively take

back

> > seat.his temperment changes certainly ar very short intervals.he

> > seems to be lost in his pursuits of common interest.

> > > Rohini ji is loud and clear in his indications

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > >

> > > Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48:39 AM

> > > Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Nandana ji,

> > >

> > > For someone so advanced, unless I misunderstood you -- would a

> > > mistake or two remove Shangrila that easily? And one, that

> > advanced,

> > > if I understood you correctly -- would such a one make such

> > mistakes?

> > >

> > > Where is all this anguish and uncertainty coming from is the

real

> > > question and must be the focus of the seeker!

> > >

> > > If I were in your shoes, astrologically speaking, I would pull

> out

> > > the charts of realized ones, such as Paramahansa Ramkrishna,

> > > Vivekananda, Yogananda and many other already realized ones and

> see

> > > what was in their charts that indicated their spiritual status

> and

> > > the signature that justifies their earthly sojourn and

spiritual

> > > escape.

> > >

> > > I hope you find this advice based on obvious common sense and

not

> > > otherwise!

> > >

> > > Oft Mystical Questions are indolent attempts at studying the

> > obvious

> > > and that is already out there in the earthly reality!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Nandana astro "

> > > <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaskara all

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality -

> to

> > > study

> > > > spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> > > > The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in

navamsha -

>

> > > with

> > > > to planetary aspect -

> > > >

> > > > He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing

the

> > yoga

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the

> true

> > > > spirituality and working towards its it

> > > >

> > > > The birth details are as followed

> > > >

> > > > August 26, 1977

> > > > Time: 17:30:00

> > > > Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> > > > Kortrijk, Belgium

> > > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > > >

> > > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> > > > Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> > > > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> > > > Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> > > > Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> > > > Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> > > > Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> > > > Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> > > > Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

> > > >

> > > > Sunrise: 6:56:27

> > > > Sunset: 20:39:59

> > > > Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

> > > >

> > > > Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> > > > Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

> > > >

> > > > Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution?

> > As

> > > > AL has rahu ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Nandana

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

pls dont send me this astrology i dont wont this any more on my side :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

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Sunday, 11 January, 2009 11:24:09 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

 

 

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--- On Sat, 10/1/09, Prashant Pandey <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

Prashant Pandey <praspandey (AT) (DOT) co.in>

[ind. & West. Astrology] Re: Ketu in 12th of atmakraka - is it moksha?

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com

Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 5:23 PM

 

Dear Smt. Nandana JI,

You are getting speed-up in astrology.Nice to

see this.

 

Best of Luck!!!

 

I would like to say something about Arudha that it works for

Tropical and for Nks(Constellations Ar Ta etc etc also come under

this) only.Not for Sidereal system(Mesha Vrisha etc etc come under

this),where we are trying to apply.

 

Theories of Maharishis(Main idea from where Arudha and Chara Karaka

scheme emerged) are correct but practical application by us doesnt

look correct.

 

Regs,

Prashant Pandey

 

Indian_Astrology_ Group_Daily_ Digest@grou ps.com, " Nandana

astro " <nandanaastro@ ...> wrote:

>

> Namaskara all

>

>

> Today i was seeing my friends chart to see spirituality - to

study

> spirituality ( is a spiritual seeker last 4yrs or more )

> The atmakarka is Saturn 12th to it is Ketu in navamsha -

with

> to planetary aspect -

>

> He has tapasvi yoga - i hope i am correct in assessing the yoga

>

>

> Can any one guide me to read the chart more and learn the true

> spirituality and working towards its it

>

> The birth details are as followed

>

> August 26, 1977

> Time: 17:30:00

> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 3 E 16' 00 " , 50 N 50' 00 "

> Kortrijk, Belgium

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> Lunar Yr-Mo: Pingala - Nija Sravana

> Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (38.59% left)

> Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve)

> Nakshatra: Sravanam (Mo) (91.73% left)

> Yoga: Soubhagya (Ve) (18.73% left)

> Karana: Taitula (Me) (77.18% left)

> Hora Lord: Saturn (5 min sign: Le)

> Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar)

> Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Mercury)

>

> Sunrise: 6:56:27

> Sunset: 20:39:59

> Janma Ghatis: 26.3982

>

> Ayanamsa: 23-32-41.80

> Sidereal Time: 14:02:08

>

> Any critical moments which has to be dealt with caution? As

> AL has rahu ?

>

>

> Thanks

> Nandana

>

 

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|| OM TAT SAT ||

Dear Nandana,

Food problem could be due to 2nd lord from lagna/chandra lagna in

asresha as asresha blocks the spiritual energy of AK.

Chakra discussion is beyond the scope of this list. In case you

have a specific query, drop me a mail.

 

regards,

Nitish

 

sohamsa , " Nandana astro " <nandanaastro

wrote:

>

>

> you are right he has a problem ie his GIT is very senstive

> to most of the food so it is ie the only problme he has

> which does effect him very strongly -

>

> Can i know how to pin pointed that there can be the manipura

> chakra ( thanks it was good point which can be worked on )

> Another problem he feels home in India - but he wont get a

> Long visa in India

>

>

> Thanks

> Nandana

>

>

> 2009/1/12 yeeahoo_99 <nitish.arya:

> > || OM TAT SAT ||

> > Dear Nandana,

> >

> > In my understanding, this could be a problem in manipura chakra,

> > which means acquiring greater self-control, by regular practice of

> > posture/asanas that he can learn from a competent yoga guru.

> >

> > regards,

> > Nitish

> >

>