Guest guest Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Hi Rohini and Harry, Thanks for your valuable input. I appreciate your suggestions. To keep you noticed I have been offered a project coming in mid february and it's going to be an international release. To be able meet the challenges I must work very hard day and night to update myself. Yes if the project is given to me then there would be more than 40 songs that I've to do and it's going to tough one for me. I'm enthusiastic and do believe in quality rather than quantity. But to some extent you are right that my compostitions are very soft, sometimes sentimental slow moving and soothing. This is the way my personality is but to be successful in the commercial world my tunes should have some added spark. Being a qualified musician having done masters in contemporary modern music I'm sure I'd be able to live people's expectation with a little extra I've to deliver. From now onward I'd try to make lively and attractive tunes as you've mentioned while not sacrificing quality. To improve my health I've to do lifestyle management by following a daily routine. Yes I'd try to cut down tea/cofeee and soft drinks. I will work hard till I succeed! Thanks for the gemstone recommendation. Yellow sapphire seems to be a good choice as it is the my ascendant and also very auspicius. As it is an expensive gemstone I'd like to seem its effects for at least 2 months before I buy the other two. Just need to confirm you guys being very learned, if jupiter is an enemy of venus and mercury should I be wearing the gemstones in combination? Thanks, Regards, Samit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 , " malhotra_samit " <malhotra_samit wrote: > > > Hi Rohini and Harry, > > Thanks for the gemstone recommendation. Yellow sapphire seems to be a > good choice as it is the my ascendant and also very auspicius. As it > is an expensive gemstone I'd like to seem its effects for at least 2 > months before I buy the other two. Just need to confirm you guys > being very learned, if jupiter is an enemy of venus and mercury > should I be wearing the gemstones in combination? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > Hey Samit, That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones recklessly or in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! Good luck! ;-) Rohiniranjan RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Dear Samit By wearing gemstones in our fingures even though they are enemies or friends or neutral does not creates a fight or enemity. Gemstones just give their results for the purpose they are worn. This is a psychological fear or phobia being creating by some to discourage one from not wearing it. When an astro is not certain or has faith in the results of the gemstones, the astro refrains from recommendation & creates a negative phobia on its usage. Gemstones wearing is not a fashion but a scientific science which gives results. The astro has to be careful in recommendations. In my experience I have observed many astros recommending the gemstone which is not required and the native who wears suffers very heavly.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT CELL +919867214103 (MUMBAI,INDIA)  ________________________________ malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit Friday, 26 December, 2008 1:18:27 AM Re: Need to be successful in field of music Hi Rohini and Harry, Thanks for your valuable input. I appreciate your suggestions. To keep you noticed I have been offered a project coming in mid february and it's going to be an international release. To be able meet the challenges I must work very hard day and night to update myself. Yes if the project is given to me then there would be more than 40 songs that I've to do and it's going to tough one for me. I'm enthusiastic and do believe in quality rather than quantity. But to some extent you are right that my compostitions are very soft, sometimes sentimental slow moving and soothing. This is the way my personality is but to be successful in the commercial world my tunes should have some added spark. Being a qualified musician having done masters in contemporary modern music I'm sure I'd be able to live people's expectation with a little extra I've to deliver. From now onward I'd try to make lively and attractive tunes as you've mentioned while not sacrificing quality. To improve my health I've to do lifestyle management by following a daily routine. Yes I'd try to cut down tea/cofeee and soft drinks. I will work hard till I succeed! Thanks for the gemstone recommendation. Yellow sapphire seems to be a good choice as it is the my ascendant and also very auspicius. As it is an expensive gemstone I'd like to seem its effects for at least 2 months before I buy the other two. Just need to confirm you guys being very learned, if jupiter is an enemy of venus and mercury should I be wearing the gemstones in combination? Thanks, Regards, Samit From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Dear all even for worst health problems,the scripts recommened " mani mandra aushadam " ie aushadam - medicine, mantra - yagnas and japams, mani - wearing gem stones. the wearing of gem stones is recommended by scriptures hence no doubt on their effects. regards --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: > Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > Re: Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > Friday, December 26, 2008, 12:06 PM > Dear Samit > > By wearing gemstones in our fingures even though they are > enemies or friends or neutral does not creates a fight or > enemity. Gemstones just give their results for the > purpose they are worn. This is a psychological fear or > phobia being creating by some to discourage one from not > wearing it. > > When an astro is not certain or has faith in the results > of the gemstones, the astro refrains from recommendation > & creates a negative phobia on its usage. > > Gemstones wearing is not a fashion but a scientific science > which gives results. The astro has to be careful in > recommendations. In my experience I have observed many > astros recommending the gemstone which is not required and > the native who wears suffers very heavly. > > > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > > > > ________________________________ > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit > > Friday, 26 December, 2008 1:18:27 AM > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > > Hi Rohini and Harry, > > Thanks for your valuable input. I appreciate your > suggestions. > > To keep you noticed I have been offered a project coming in > mid > february and it's going to be an international release. > To be able > meet the challenges I must work very hard day and night to > update > myself. Yes if the project is given to me then there would > be more > than 40 songs that I've to do and it's going to > tough one for me. > > I'm enthusiastic and do believe in quality rather than > quantity. But > to some extent you are right that my compostitions are very > soft, > sometimes sentimental slow moving and soothing. This is the > way my > personality is but to be successful in the commercial world > my tunes > should have some added spark. Being a qualified musician > having done > masters in contemporary modern music I'm sure I'd > be able to live > people's expectation with a little extra I've to > deliver. From now > onward I'd try to make lively and attractive tunes as > you've > mentioned while not sacrificing quality. > > To improve my health I've to do lifestyle management by > following a > daily routine. Yes I'd try to cut down tea/cofeee and > soft drinks. > > I will work hard till I succeed! > > Thanks for the gemstone recommendation. Yellow sapphire > seems to be a > good choice as it is the my ascendant and also very > auspicius. As it > is an expensive gemstone I'd like to seem its effects > for at least 2 > months before I buy the other two. Just need to confirm you > guys > being very learned, if jupiter is an enemy of venus and > mercury > should I be wearing the gemstones in combination? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over > India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Absolutely! http://www.boloji.com/astro/00314.htm RR , " sankaranarayanan k.s " <shankypriyan wrote: > > > > Dear all > > even for worst health problems,the scripts recommened " mani mandra aushadam " ie aushadam - medicine, mantra - yagnas and japams, mani - wearing gem stones. > > the wearing of gem stones is recommended by scriptures hence no doubt on their effects. > > regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hi Harry, Thanks for the advice and clarifying my doubts. I'd seriously consider your suggestion once I try the yellow sapphire. Regards, SM , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Samit > > By wearing gemstones in our fingures even though they are enemies or friends or neutral does not creates a fight or enemity. Gemstones just give their results for the purpose they are worn. This is a psychological fear or phobia being creating by some to discourage one from not wearing it. > > When an astro is not certain or has faith in the results of the gemstones, the astro refrains from recommendation & creates a negative phobia on its usage. > > Gemstones wearing is not a fashion but a scientific science which gives results. The astro has to be careful in recommendations. In my experience I have observed many astros recommending the gemstone which is not required and the native who wears suffers very heavly. > >  > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > CELL +919867214103 > (MUMBAI,INDIA) >  > > > > ________________________________ > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit > > Friday, 26 December, 2008 1:18:27 AM > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > > Hi Rohini and Harry, > > Thanks for your valuable input. I appreciate your suggestions. > > To keep you noticed I have been offered a project coming in mid > february and it's going to be an international release. To be able > meet the challenges I must work very hard day and night to update > myself. Yes if the project is given to me then there would be more > than 40 songs that I've to do and it's going to tough one for me. > > I'm enthusiastic and do believe in quality rather than quantity. But > to some extent you are right that my compostitions are very soft, > sometimes sentimental slow moving and soothing. This is the way my > personality is but to be successful in the commercial world my tunes > should have some added spark. Being a qualified musician having done > masters in contemporary modern music I'm sure I'd be able to live > people's expectation with a little extra I've to deliver. From now > onward I'd try to make lively and attractive tunes as you've > mentioned while not sacrificing quality. > > To improve my health I've to do lifestyle management by following a > daily routine. Yes I'd try to cut down tea/cofeee and soft drinks. > > I will work hard till I succeed! > > Thanks for the gemstone recommendation. Yellow sapphire seems to be a > good choice as it is the my ascendant and also very auspicius. As it > is an expensive gemstone I'd like to seem its effects for at least 2 > months before I buy the other two. Just need to confirm you guys > being very learned, if jupiter is an enemy of venus and mercury > should I be wearing the gemstones in combination? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Go to http://in.promos./groups/citygroups/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 > Hey Samit, > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones recklessly or > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > Good luck! ;-) > > > Rohiniranjan > RR > Hi Rohini, So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul graha favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of benefic planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! Thanks SM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula that you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! I wish it were that simple! RR , " malhotra_samit " <malhotra_samit wrote: > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones recklessly or > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > RR > > > > Hi Rohini, > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul graha > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of benefic > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > Thanks > SM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Hi Rohini, Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I agree to the article you've sent me earlier. Here are a few quotes: " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is a malefic. " " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into specific mantras and other devotional acts. " " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar progression) is operational. " " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it untouched! " But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual for a few days before accepting it. " " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? Thanks, Regards, Samit , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula that > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > I wish it were that simple! > > RR > > , " malhotra_samit " > <malhotra_samit@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > recklessly or > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > RR > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > graha > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of benefic > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > Thanks > > SM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Samit... You started out seeking a reading! It seems like you are now teaching astrology to those who gave you a reading! Musician or Astrologer? What would you rather be ;-) Regards, Rohiniranjan :I picked my pick! " : <musician wannabe but astrologer already, hence die is cast!> , " malhotra_samit " <malhotra_samit wrote: > > Hi Rohini, > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > Here are a few quotes: > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is > a malefic. " > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > progression) is operational. " > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > untouched! " > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual > for a few days before accepting it. " > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula > that > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > RR > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > <malhotra_samit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > recklessly or > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > > graha > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > benefic > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > Thanks > > > SM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Dear Samit I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets.  GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM Re: Need to be successful in field of music Hi Rohini, Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I agree to the article you've sent me earlier. Here are a few quotes: " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is a malefic. " " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into specific mantras and other devotional acts. " " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar progression) is operational. " " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it untouched! " But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual for a few days before accepting it. " " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? Thanks, Regards, Samit , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula that > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > I wish it were that simple! > > RR > > , " malhotra_samit " > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > recklessly or > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > RR > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > graha > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of benefic > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > Thanks > > SM > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Dear Mr. Nathani, I fully agree with you. Selecting gemstone is not that easy. Using gemstone is always like doing tantra on the body. Our past PM PV Narasimha Rao was advised to wear a red coral for 8L Mars in 10th house. The astrologer who suggested it, was a genious. He had lagna lord Mercury, 12th lord Sun and 8L Mars in 10th house. Same case like Chiranjeevi. A vipareet raja yoga in kendra. When it happens in kendra at east one of the dusthana lord must be very strong and also somehow connected to lagna lord or atmakaraka to transfer the power to the native. So Rajeev Gandhi (Sun) fell and the power was transfered to him in Mars dasa. In case he was advised to wear an emerald, he would have been finished in Mars dasa. Samit's statment that " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it untouched! " is not correct. That means if any part of the body has become weak and malefic with cancer, should it be left as it is? Or proper treatment is required? If malefic planet is doing good, why not to advice his gem? And if a benefic planet is doing harm, why to wear his gem and keep the enemy in the house? Even Jupiter also may become extremely malefic in a chart. There are lot of miscoception on how to select gemstones, in which fingure they should be worn and why, how they work etc. Like I have inveriably seen astrologers recomend pokhraj to be worn in index fingure. That is wrong. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The gem should be worn on the fingure depending on which trikono it is sitting and after matching tattwa of the planet. Best fingure for pokhraj is ring fingure. PM PV Narasimha Rao worn red coral in middle fingure, as Mars was in artha trikono & agni tattwa of Mars is friendly with prithvi tattwa. If tattwa does not match, mantra will be more usefull. Say if Mars is in kama trikono, it is not to be worn in little fingure. There it will not work. Tattwa Finger Trikono Agni Ring Dharma Prithvi Middle Artha Vayu Little Kama Jala Index Moksha Gems for planets sitting in moksha trikono should not adviced and remedy should be by mantra. Of course there are much much more to this. There was a nice interesting article on this in another list. I shall forward it in this list for every body to read. Regards Jk On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:49 PM Re: Re: Need to be successful in field of music Dear Samit I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets. GOD BLESS YOU WITH WARM REGARDS HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI VEDIC ASTOLOGER VAASTU CONSULTANT (MUMBAI,INDIA) http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database ________________________________ malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM Re: Need to be successful in field of music Hi Rohini, Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I agree to the article you've sent me earlier. Here are a few quotes: " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is a malefic. " " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into specific mantras and other devotional acts. " " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar progression) is operational. " " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it untouched! " But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual for a few days before accepting it. " " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? Thanks, Regards, Samit , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula that > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > I wish it were that simple! > > RR > > , " malhotra_samit " > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > recklessly or > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > RR > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > graha > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of benefic > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > Thanks > > SM > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hi Harry, Rohini, The article rohini sent us is just to my liking. That doesn't mean that I make a conclusion out of it. Even she agrees that favourable planet system doesn't work in all cases. You have clarified my doubts earlier and I respect both of your views. If only one gemstone to wear which one do you suggest diamond/white saphhire, emerald or yellow sapphire. Please keep in mind the health issues that I am experiencing right from my teenage. I still would like to go with Jupiter's gemstone as it my ascendant lord but since it's sharing house with saturn it doesn't let me get the most out of it. Also I'm going through jupiter's mahadasha. Since I can afford only one gemstone can some other gemstone provide better results? What about wearing gemstones of Mars or Sun since they share the same house in the chart. Sun is also placed well in the chart and it's antardasha coming next. High cholesterol, blood circulation problem is related to Sun. While for the organs of elimination Jupiter works best including liver, kidney, skin/pores etc. Thanks, Regards, Samit , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Samit > > I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets. >  > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ________________________________ > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit > > Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > Hi Rohini, > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > Here are a few quotes: > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is > a malefic. " > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > progression) is operational. " > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > untouched! " > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual > for a few days before accepting it. " > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula > that > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > RR > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > recklessly or > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > > graha > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > benefic > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > Thanks > > > SM > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hi Rohini, A teacher is always a student. I've been teaching western music for last 5 years still trying to gain more day by day. Learning is a lifetime process. To answer your question I'd like to be a musician but won't miss the opportunity to grasp a new subject even if it is astrology. But if there is a confusion in my mind I have to ask about it. When you wrote the article you were in favour of this system (in 2001)? So now you have come up with a wider approach and say it depends on case to case. Don't let me wrong I believe in you and respect your views. Regards, Samit , " Rohiniranjan " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Samit... > > You started out seeking a reading! > > It seems like you are now teaching astrology to those who gave you a > reading! > > Musician or Astrologer? What would you rather be ;-) > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > :I picked my pick! " : > > <musician wannabe but astrologer already, hence die is cast!> > > , " malhotra_samit " > <malhotra_samit@> wrote: > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic > > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I > > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > > > Here are a few quotes: > > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet > is > > a malefic. " > > > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can > > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in > > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > > progression) is operational. " > > > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > > untouched! " > > > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the > individual > > for a few days before accepting it. " > > > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. > The > > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > > > > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Samit > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula > > that > > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > > <malhotra_samit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > > recklessly or > > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > > > graha > > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > > benefic > > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > SM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Samit, I have never been against the use of gemstones for astrological remedial purposes. I have always been against the way it is prescribed in the 'marketplace'! RR , " malhotra_samit " <malhotra_samit wrote: > > Hi Rohini, > > A teacher is always a student. I've been teaching western music for > last 5 years still trying to gain more day by day. Learning is a > lifetime process. > > To answer your question I'd like to be a musician but won't miss the > opportunity to grasp a new subject even if it is astrology. > > But if there is a confusion in my mind I have to ask about it. When > you wrote the article you were in favour of this system (in 2001)? So > now you have come up with a wider approach and say it depends on case > to case. > > Don't let me wrong I believe in you and respect your views. > > Regards, > Samit > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Samit... > > > > You started out seeking a reading! > > > > It seems like you are now teaching astrology to those who gave you > a > > reading! > > > > Musician or Astrologer? What would you rather be ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > :I picked my pick! " : > > > > <musician wannabe but astrologer already, hence die is cast!> > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > <malhotra_samit@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak > benefic > > > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why > I > > > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > > > > > Here are a few quotes: > > > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > > > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet > > is > > > a malefic. " > > > > > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics > can > > > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > > > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > > > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > > > > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak > in > > > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > > > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > > > progression) is operational. " > > > > > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > > > untouched! " > > > > > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > > > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > > > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > > > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the > > individual > > > for a few days before accepting it. " > > > > > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > > > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. > > The > > > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > > > > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > > > > > > > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > > > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Regards, > > > Samit > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool > formula > > > that > > > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > > > <malhotra_samit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > > > recklessly or > > > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the > anukul > > > > graha > > > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > > > benefic > > > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > SM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 " Even she agrees that favourable planet system doesn't work in all cases.. " Mr.Rohiniranjan should be addressed as " He " and not " She " :-) Regards Ram ________________________________ malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:23:55 PM Re: Need to be successful in field of music Hi Harry, Rohini, The article rohini sent us is just to my liking. That doesn't mean that I make a conclusion out of it. Even she agrees that favourable planet system doesn't work in all cases. You have clarified my doubts earlier and I respect both of your views. If only one gemstone to wear which one do you suggest diamond/white saphhire, emerald or yellow sapphire. Please keep in mind the health issues that I am experiencing right from my teenage. I still would like to go with Jupiter's gemstone as it my ascendant lord but since it's sharing house with saturn it doesn't let me get the most out of it. Also I'm going through jupiter's mahadasha. Since I can afford only one gemstone can some other gemstone provide better results? What about wearing gemstones of Mars or Sun since they share the same house in the chart. Sun is also placed well in the chart and it's antardasha coming next. High cholesterol, blood circulation problem is related to Sun. While for the organs of elimination Jupiter works best including liver, kidney, skin/pores etc. Thanks, Regards, Samit , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Samit > > I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets. >  > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit@ ...> > @ .. com > Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > Hi Rohini, > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > Here are a few quotes: > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is > a malefic. " > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > progression) is operational. " > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > untouched! " > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual > for a few days before accepting it. " > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula > that > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > RR > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > recklessly or > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > > graha > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > benefic > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > Thanks > > > SM > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Thanks for noticing that one, Ram Mohan ji! ;-) RR , Ram Mohan <bmr13479 wrote: > > " Even she agrees that favourable > planet system doesn't work in all cases.. " > > Mr.Rohiniranjan should be addressed as " He " and not " She " :-) > > Regards > Ram > > > > > ________________________________ > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit > > Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:23:55 PM > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > Hi Harry, Rohini, > > The article rohini sent us is just to my liking. That doesn't mean > that I make a conclusion out of it. Even she agrees that favourable > planet system doesn't work in all cases. You have clarified my doubts > earlier and I respect both of your views. > > If only one gemstone to wear which one do you suggest diamond/white > saphhire, emerald or yellow sapphire. Please keep in mind the health > issues that I am experiencing right from my teenage. I still would > like to go with Jupiter's gemstone as it my ascendant lord but since > it's sharing house with saturn it doesn't let me get the most out of > it. Also I'm going through jupiter's mahadasha. > > Since I can afford only one gemstone can some other gemstone provide > better results? > > What about wearing gemstones of Mars or Sun since they share the same > house in the chart. Sun is also placed well in the chart and it's > antardasha coming next. > > High cholesterol, blood circulation problem is related to Sun. While > for the organs of elimination Jupiter works best including liver, > kidney, skin/pores etc. > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Samit > > > > I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The > concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to > express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a > horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even > benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all > depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & > ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets. > >  > > GOD BLESS YOU > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > HARESH(HARRY) NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit@ ...> > > @ .. com > > Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM > > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic > > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I > > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > > > Here are a few quotes: > > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet > is > > a malefic. " > > > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can > > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in > > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > > progression) is operational. " > > > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > > untouched! " > > > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the > individual > > for a few days before accepting it. " > > > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. > The > > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Samit > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula > > that > > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > > recklessly or > > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > > > graha > > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > > benefic > > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > SM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Dear J. K. Dasgupta, The statement I highlighted was extracted from a forwarded article. One of the members here addded a link to my post. It is not the way I think so it's not my statement, being a musician I have to follow you guys with whatever information your provide. Also this doesn't mean I am particularly biased about a concept. " If malefic planet is doing good, why not to advice his gem? And if a benefic planet is doing harm, why to wear his gem and keep the enemy in the house? Even Jupiter also may become extremely malefic in a chart. " Thanks for the info. I'm interested in reading the article.It would be nice of you if you forward it here. This post is taking it turn towards astrology discussions. But the purpose of my post was to get rid of my health problems and seek towards my musical career. So please someone guide me if only one precious gemstone to wear which would be the one? Since you're insisting not to wear yellow sapphire in the index finger then according to my chart in which finger should I wear. Thanks, Regards, Samit , " jk.dasgupta " <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear Mr. Nathani, > > I fully agree with you. Selecting gemstone is not that easy. Using gemstone is always like doing tantra on the body. > > Our past PM PV Narasimha Rao was advised to wear a red coral for 8L Mars in 10th house. The astrologer who suggested it, was a genious. He had lagna lord Mercury, 12th lord Sun and 8L Mars in 10th house. Same case like Chiranjeevi. A vipareet raja yoga in kendra. When it happens in kendra at east one of the dusthana lord must be very strong and also somehow connected to lagna lord or atmakaraka to transfer the power to the native. So Rajeev Gandhi (Sun) fell and the power was transfered to him in Mars dasa. > > In case he was advised to wear an emerald, he would have been finished in Mars dasa. > > Samit's statment that " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it untouched! " is not correct. That means if any part of the body has become weak and malefic with cancer, should it be left as it is? Or proper treatment is required? > > If malefic planet is doing good, why not to advice his gem? And if a benefic planet is doing harm, why to wear his gem and keep the enemy in the house? Even Jupiter also may become extremely malefic in a chart. > > There are lot of miscoception on how to select gemstones, in which fingure they should be worn and why, how they work etc. Like I have inveriably seen astrologers recomend pokhraj to be worn in index fingure. That is wrong. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The gem should be worn on the fingure depending on which trikono it is sitting and after matching tattwa of the planet. Best fingure for pokhraj is ring fingure. PM PV Narasimha Rao worn red coral in middle fingure, as Mars was in artha trikono & agni tattwa of Mars is friendly with prithvi tattwa. If tattwa does not match, mantra will be more usefull. Say if Mars is in kama trikono, it is not to be worn in little fingure. There it will not work. > > Tattwa Finger Trikono > Agni Ring Dharma > Prithvi Middle Artha > Vayu Little Kama > Jala Index Moksha > > > Gems for planets sitting in moksha trikono should not adviced and remedy should be by mantra. > > Of course there are much much more to this. > > There was a nice interesting article on this in another list. I shall forward it in this list for every body to read. > > Regards > > Jk > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) Nathani > Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:49 PM > > Re: Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > Dear Samit > > I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets. > > GOD BLESS YOU > WITH WARM REGARDS > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > VAASTU CONSULTANT > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > ________________________________ > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit > > Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > Hi Rohini, > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak benefic > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why I > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > Here are a few quotes: > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet is > a malefic. " > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics can > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak in > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > progression) is operational. " > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > untouched! " > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the individual > for a few days before accepting it. " > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. The > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > , " Rohiniranjan " > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool formula > that > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > RR > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > recklessly or > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the anukul > > graha > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > benefic > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > Thanks > > > SM > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Dear Samit, Malefic and Benefic as are being bandied about here for making a point, 'some point' are not black and white realities as some jyotishis would want them to be :-) Hence the statements in classics that moderns tend to trust and have faith in! Sthana nasha karo Jeeva, Sthan vriddhi -- I will let you figure out the rest! It is a sad day when some self-appointed Messiha in Jyotish-dom decides to do away with " functional " beneficience and maleficience but allows another SYSTEM that uses Placidian cusps and other non- jyotish concepts to be accepted as part of Jyotish! And Just because of personal reasons as had been confessed here -- and tolerated by most but not all! , " malhotra_samit " <malhotra_samit wrote: > > Dear J. K. Dasgupta, > > The statement I highlighted was extracted from a forwarded article. > One of the members here addded a link to my post. It is not the way I > think so it's not my statement, being a musician I have to follow you > guys with whatever information your provide. > > Also this doesn't mean I am particularly biased about a concept. > > " If malefic planet is doing good, why not to advice his gem? And if a > benefic planet is doing harm, why to wear his gem and keep the enemy > in the house? Even Jupiter also may become extremely malefic in a > chart. " Thanks for the info. > > I'm interested in reading the article.It would be nice of you if you > forward it here. > > This post is taking it turn towards astrology discussions. But the > purpose of my post was to get rid of my health problems and seek > towards my musical career. So please someone guide me if only one > precious gemstone to wear which would be the one? > > Since you're insisting not to wear yellow sapphire in the index > finger then according to my chart in which finger should I wear. > > Thanks, > Regards, > Samit > > , " jk.dasgupta " > <jk.dasgupta@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Nathani, > > > > I fully agree with you. Selecting gemstone is not that easy. Using > gemstone is always like doing tantra on the body. > > > > Our past PM PV Narasimha Rao was advised to wear a red coral for 8L > Mars in 10th house. The astrologer who suggested it, was a genious. > He had lagna lord Mercury, 12th lord Sun and 8L Mars in 10th house. > Same case like Chiranjeevi. A vipareet raja yoga in kendra. When it > happens in kendra at east one of the dusthana lord must be very > strong and also somehow connected to lagna lord or atmakaraka to > transfer the power to the native. So Rajeev Gandhi (Sun) fell and the > power was transfered to him in Mars dasa. > > > > In case he was advised to wear an emerald, he would have been > finished in Mars dasa. > > > > Samit's statment that " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we > would leave it untouched! " is not correct. That means if any part of > the body has become weak and malefic with cancer, should it be left > as it is? Or proper treatment is required? > > > > If malefic planet is doing good, why not to advice his gem? And if > a benefic planet is doing harm, why to wear his gem and keep the > enemy in the house? Even Jupiter also may become extremely malefic in > a chart. > > > > There are lot of miscoception on how to select gemstones, in which > fingure they should be worn and why, how they work etc. Like I have > inveriably seen astrologers recomend pokhraj to be worn in index > fingure. That is wrong. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, > dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little > fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking > moksha and increasing ahamkara. The gem should be worn on the fingure > depending on which trikono it is sitting and after matching tattwa of > the planet. Best fingure for pokhraj is ring fingure. PM PV Narasimha > Rao worn red coral in middle fingure, as Mars was in artha trikono & > agni tattwa of Mars is friendly with prithvi tattwa. If tattwa does > not match, mantra will be more usefull. Say if Mars is in kama > trikono, it is not to be worn in little fingure. There it will not > work. > > > > Tattwa Finger Trikono > > Agni Ring Dharma > > Prithvi Middle Artha > > Vayu Little Kama > > Jala Index Moksha > > > > > > Gems for planets sitting in moksha trikono should not adviced and > remedy should be by mantra. > > > > Of course there are much much more to this. > > > > There was a nice interesting article on this in another list. I > shall forward it in this list for every body to read. > > > > Regards > > > > Jk > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Haresh (Harry) > Nathani > > Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:49 PM > > > > Re: Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > > > > Dear Samit > > > > I do not agree to what is mentioned in the mail on gemstones. The > concept of gemstones is totally misunderstand. It is not possible to > express everything, yes but if have a through understanding of a > horoscope chart, even malefic planet gemstones are recommended & even > benefic planets gemstones are in select cases not recommended. It all > depend on the status of the horoscope, placement of the planets & > ownership of the house owned by both benefic & malefic palnets. > > > > GOD BLESS YOU > > WITH WARM REGARDS > > HARESH(HARRY)NATHANI > > VEDIC ASTOLOGER > > VAASTU CONSULTANT > > (MUMBAI,INDIA) > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database > > > > ________________________________ > > malhotra_samit <malhotra_samit@> > > > > Saturday, 27 December, 2008 10:37:08 PM > > Re: Need to be successful in field of music > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > Yes it is not that simple but if you know your strong/weak > benefic > > planets it would still advisable to strengthen them. I wonder why > I > > agree to the article you've sent me earlier. > > > > Here are a few quotes: > > " It is important to understand that gemstones are only capable of > > strengthening weak planets. They must not be used when the planet > is > > a malefic. " > > > > " While weak benefics can be strengthened by gemstones, malefics > can > > be propitiated by other forms of remedials, including fasting, > > performing good deeds or giving charity, immersing oneself into > > specific mantras and other devotional acts. " > > > > " A gemstone may be worn to fortify a benefic planet that is weak > in > > the natal chart at any time, or it may be worn when its planetary > > period, such as vimshottari dasha or sub-dasha (a method of lunar > > progression) is operational. " > > > > " If the planet is weak and malefic, then we would leave it > > untouched! " > > > > But at the same time I think emphasis should be laid on: > > " Not only must the gemstone conform to the physical and chemical > > specifications (purity, specific gravity etc.), it must be of the > > right size as well. And, it must be worn and tested by the > individual > > for a few days before accepting it. " > > > > " Wearing the color represented by the strong benefic is helpful. > > Fasting on the days represented by the strong malefic is helpful. > The > > best help one can give a weak benefic is to wear its gemstone. " > > > > Thanks for sending the article to me. I gained a lot from it. > > > > Need another favour. What would be the correct size for yellow > > sapphire for me? And the most auspicious day to wear (date)? > > > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Samit > > > > , " Rohiniranjan " > > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > No Samit -- I do not to this anukool-pratikool > formula > > that > > > you have adopted and have tried to promulgate here! > > > > > > I wish it were that simple! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " malhotra_samit " > > > <malhotra_samit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Samit, > > > > > > > > > > That is the very reason why I never prescribe gemstones > > > recklessly or > > > > > in a shot-gun approach in settings like these! > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rohini, > > > > > > > > So you very well know what I mean! ;-) According to the > anukul > > > graha > > > > favourable planet system you should only wear gemstones of > > benefic > > > > planets and gems for all malefics should be avoided! > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > SM > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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