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dEAR nEELAM JI

 

iF i AM NOT MISTAKEN THERE R MANY MODERATORS IN AIA and take time in seeing them

so it may appear it is spontanous approvals

 

in a chat with one of the moderators [he had said he had banned u and later

reinstated u too] he said there r 12 moderators in all

 

and i feel all of them have been doning well for the subject a good model I must

say

 

I had seen jotish vidya of Wendy ji's model as a v good model too as it is v

stroct and more Parashari centric than mixed systems when it difficult for many

to get a understanding leave alone depth of one rishi's work expecting them to

use multiple rishies works is too much most members with a few English works

behind them to guide them have been around and do fade away

 

works from classical depth better if one can learn Sanskrit read the original

slokas and adapt it to our times as B V RAMANji, PS Sastry, PS Iyer, VAK iyer,

KN RAO ji, D V N SUBBA RAO ji, K S MENON, NS NATTU etc have done

 

 

English translations do help and we must use it as a starter pack the clasics r

the key to it and they have the essence for all times to come all we have to do

is read assimilate it and apply them to our times

 

Best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

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prashant ji, my personal opinion is one should use one id in one

forum, becoz it make easy in identification. and no need to use

diffrent id. you can see most of members use one id only in one

forum. this is my personal opinion, need not that every one will

agree to this.

 

rgds

niket

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> dEAR nEELAM JI

>

> iF i AM NOT MISTAKEN THERE R MANY MODERATORS IN AIA and take time

in seeing them so it may appear it is spontanous approvals

>

> in a chat with one of the moderators [he had said he had banned u

and later reinstated u too] he said there r 12 moderators in all

>

> and i feel all of them have been doning well for the subject a good

model I must say

>

> I had seen jotish vidya of Wendy ji's model as a v good model too

as it is v stroct and more Parashari centric than mixed systems when

it difficult for many to get a understanding leave alone depth of one

rishi's work expecting them to use multiple rishies works is too much

most members with a few English works behind them to guide them have

been around and do fade away

>

> works from classical depth better if one can learn Sanskrit read

the original slokas and adapt it to our times as B V RAMANji, PS

Sastry, PS Iyer, VAK iyer, KN RAO ji, D V N SUBBA RAO ji, K S

MENON, NS NATTU etc have done

>

>

> English translations do help and we must use it as a starter pack

the clasics r the key to it and they have the essence for all times

to come all we have to do is read assimilate it and apply them to our

times

>

> Best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

>

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, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>...

> English translations do help and we must use it as a starter pack

the clasics r the key to it and they have the essence for all times

to come all we have to do is read assimilate it and apply them to our

times

>

> Best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

>

 

Dear Kumar ji,

 

Just focusing on the essential here, if you will permit so!

 

Not being a sanskrit-vid (just the basic stuff any indian kid got in

50s 60s encouraged by a father who was well-versed in sanskrit and

science -- after losing my Hindi translation of BPHS and a trunkful

of books on jyotish in early 80s other than a few, GC Sharmaji's BPHS

was a godsend and perhaps more complete than Santhanam's version. In

fact I found that the slokas in GC Sharma's version reasonably easy

to follow even if not completely. It did take some time but was well

worth it!

 

Did this additional 'enlightenment' help me astrologically? NO!

 

It did help me write the article at boloji com about astrotreasures

that survived time! And all the other myths etc!

 

RR

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Dear Prashant ji and group,

 

//in a chat with one of the moderators [he had said he had banned u

and later reinstated u too] he said there r 12 moderators in all//

 

Most of us seem to be working on presumptions and remain away from

reality. There is no truth, whatsoever, in your statement, Prashant

ji. Please check your facts with one of the 'real' moderators of the

forum and there aren't many as you seem to believe.

 

The point is that people are not just labels, easy to read at a

glance, or be read through some other eyes! There is always more to

them than their tags. Our formed opinions, piggy riding on other's

statements may be far from the truth.

 

I completely agree with Niket ji's personal opinion that one should

use one id in one forum. However, while entering a new forum or place,

sometimes we need to assess the environment before deciding to stay

on, by being there for a while, and one might not be comfortable

walking with an identity card. Moreover, our true worth is realised

only when what is said becomes important, and not who is saying?

 

War should be waged against the ignorance that still veils this

beautiful and divine subject and not against our own comrades.

 

Regards

Neelam

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Dear Neelam ji

 

If this info I said was wrong I stand corrected I thank you for that if it is a

mistake we must make up for it

fortunately I don't use names and has been useful as it may lead to a different

issue later

 

the context and time was when we had our first exchange again not a pleasant one

I guess that was when u said i was probably scaring a member in a prediction in

VA a female member [and also questioned my knowledge in the subject] which I

clarified to u and guess was resolved

 

I didn't carry any baggage I know the members can decide what we r

and this must help u as I have ssked u to be here as well.

 

about using one or more ID'S

 

I MYSELF HAVE ADMITTED I USE 3 ID's but sign my name same way in all apart from

language style is same too

 

as u may be new here i give u them

 

gbp_kumar

 

in JR, JG, JS, AIA, V_J, K_P_SYSTEMS, LALKITAB_REMEDIES

 

 

pkgoteti

in vedic astrology

jyotidh-vidya

vedichora

 

astro.prashantkumar

 

only reason is to filter the inbox content into these ID's and reply

too many to handle from a single ID and may lead to cluttering and if anyone

closes down will loose a lot of selected topics that i store in sub-folders and

have to go back to the groups and pick them again laborously

 

 

 

but my name will remain same everywhere

 

I have been accused of many more ID's but certainly no time or interest for

them, just don't want to see what happend to u, one mistake will take our image

to a different place it may not be intentional but the ones who want to create

trouble will.

 

again no HARD FEELINGS on the content I SAID STAND CORRECTED

 

TILL TODAY I THOT I WAS A MEMBER IN 7-8 but am in 10 groups but not been active

in any I had d from one KP group and another group too.

 

just JR, VA, AIA

 

THANKS

 

PRASHANT

 

 

________________________________

neelamgupta106 <neelamgupta07

 

Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:58:46 PM

Re: Neelam gupta on AIA APPROVALS

 

 

Dear Prashant ji and group,

 

//in a chat with one of the moderators [he had said he had banned u

and later reinstated u too] he said there r 12 moderators in all//

 

Most of us seem to be working on presumptions and remain away from

reality. There is no truth, whatsoever, in your statement, Prashant

ji. Please check your facts with one of the 'real' moderators of the

forum and there aren't many as you seem to believe.

 

The point is that people are not just labels, easy to read at a

glance, or be read through some other eyes! There is always more to

them than their tags. Our formed opinions, piggy riding on other's

statements may be far from the truth.

 

I completely agree with Niket ji's personal opinion that one should

use one id in one forum. However, while entering a new forum or place,

sometimes we need to assess the environment before deciding to stay

on, by being there for a while, and one might not be comfortable

walking with an identity card. Moreover, our true worth is realised

only when what is said becomes important, and not who is saying?

 

War should be waged against the ignorance that still veils this

beautiful and divine subject and not against our own comrades.

 

Regards

Neelam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mr. Prashant ji,

 

Ancient_Indian_Astrology {AIA}= do not that NUMBER of moderators you

mentioned in your original mail. The only key moderator of that AIA

group is the group owner Mr. Sreenadh himself. There are many worthy

members who have subject core interest and knowledge, come up with new

topics in the group. Dr. Neelam ji was NEVER banned in that group as

mentioned in your mail.... she has been active contributor to the group.

To my knowledge NO person has been banned till date - unless someone is

talking totally tangent or abusing others....

 

Sorry, for this non_astro mail, posting to keep the records straight.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

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Dear sreeram

 

this ok, but after I closed the issue rightly with neelam ji herself this post

is strange

 

but what i quoted /said is untrue by herself till then I had to believe what was

told to me by one of them I gave the context, timeshare too I also said I stand

corrected as only 2 ppl can say it one who told me and one who claimed to have

done it. HER WORD IS GOOD ENUF for me.

 

and everywhere I mentioned abt AIA it has not -vely and happy to see the group

that way. and wish the same future for all existing groups in which we may or

may not be present many groups had happy starts, a good run and later became

weaker. I wish the group susttained strenght and as u know I am also there when

time permits.

 

prashant

 

 

________________________________

sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

 

Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:51:16 AM

Re: Neelam gupta on AIA APPROVALS

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Prashant ji,

 

Ancient_Indian_ Astrology {AIA}= do not that NUMBER of moderators you

mentioned in your original mail. The only key moderator of that AIA

group is the group owner Mr. Sreenadh himself. There are many worthy

members who have subject core interest and knowledge, come up with new

topics in the group. Dr. Neelam ji was NEVER banned in that group as

mentioned in your mail.... she has been active contributor to the group.

To my knowledge NO person has been banned till date - unless someone is

talking totally tangent or abusing others....

 

Sorry, for this non_astro mail, posting to keep the records straight.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Please define abuse!

 

Often taken for granted and assumed to have a Crystal Clear meaning

and context -- a travesty remaining to be defined!

 

RR

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mr. Prashant ji,

>

> Ancient_Indian_Astrology {AIA}= do not that NUMBER of moderators you

> mentioned in your original mail. The only key moderator of that

AIA

> group is the group owner Mr. Sreenadh himself. There are many

worthy

> members who have subject core interest and knowledge, come up with

new

> topics in the group. Dr. Neelam ji was NEVER banned in that

group as

> mentioned in your mail.... she has been active contributor to the

group.

> To my knowledge NO person has been banned till date - unless

someone is

> talking totally tangent or abusing others....

>

> Sorry, for this non_astro mail, posting to keep the records

straight.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

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Dear Kumar ji,

 

Please let Sreeram ji/Sreenadh jee express their

sentiments/resentments!

 

There must be a good reason why we folks attract

their attention and of certain others who are so frustrated as to

spam private emails of members of this Group!

 

Enough said!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear sreeram

>

> this ok, but after I closed the issue rightly with neelam ji

herself this post is strange

>

> but what i quoted /said is untrue by herself till then I had to

believe what was told to me by one of them I gave the context,

timeshare too I also said I stand corrected as only 2 ppl can say it

one who told me and one who claimed to have done it. HER WORD IS GOOD

ENUF for me.

>

> and everywhere I mentioned abt AIA it has not -vely and happy to

see the group that way. and wish the same future for all existing

groups in which we may or may not be present many groups had happy

starts, a good run and later became weaker. I wish the group

susttained strenght and as u know I am also there when time permits.

>

> prashant

>

>

> ________________________________

> sreeram srinivas <sreeram64

>

> Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:51:16 AM

> Re: Neelam gupta on AIA APPROVALS

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Prashant ji,

>

> Ancient_Indian_ Astrology {AIA}= do not that NUMBER of moderators

you

> mentioned in your original mail. The only key moderator of that

AIA

> group is the group owner Mr. Sreenadh himself. There are many

worthy

> members who have subject core interest and knowledge, come up with

new

> topics in the group. Dr. Neelam ji was NEVER banned in that

group as

> mentioned in your mail.... she has been active contributor to the

group.

> To my knowledge NO person has been banned till date - unless

someone is

> talking totally tangent or abusing others....

>

> Sorry, for this non_astro mail, posting to keep the records

straight.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

 

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Dear RRji

 

I agree on the spam part but I had always respected and admired sreenadh ji for

his research orient approach right from his JR days and never missed a chance to

say so

 

but Sreeram ji has been more a mouth piece of the rest of the noise makes

sreenadh has also been a victim for sometime from them but has shown a lot of

maturity and material to withstand and still give them room and grow too

 

the spam part just sreram is there as many times he has refered there r good

astrologers over AIA all of them were part of many groups even JR

 

but we have enough good members left like u , Vattem krishna ji, rafel g, k

gopeu, nikit, harry, anup m., and many more un named ones and if there is peace

sure many more will come back and new members may also be here. we have not shut

the door on anyone. it is up to them to be here and treat this forum as they

have AIA, the subject is supreme not individuals is my approach we must act,

preach and live to keep it alive collectively..

 

Best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

 

Wednesday, December 24, 2008 10:33:29 AM

Re: Neelam gupta on AIA APPROVALS

 

 

Dear Kumar ji,

 

Please let Sreeram ji/Sreenadh jee express their

sentiments/resentme nts!

 

There must be a good reason why we folks attract

their attention and of certain others who are so frustrated as to

spam private emails of members of this Group!

 

Enough said!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear sreeram

>

> this ok, but after I closed the issue rightly with neelam ji

herself this post is strange

>

> but what i quoted /said is untrue by herself till then I had to

believe what was told to me by one of them I gave the context,

timeshare too I also said I stand corrected as only 2 ppl can say it

one who told me and one who claimed to have done it. HER WORD IS GOOD

ENUF for me.

>

> and everywhere I mentioned abt AIA it has not -vely and happy to

see the group that way. and wish the same future for all existing

groups in which we may or may not be present many groups had happy

starts, a good run and later became weaker. I wish the group

susttained strenght and as u know I am also there when time permits.

>

> prashant

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> sreeram srinivas <sreeram64@. ..>

>

> Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:51:16 AM

> Re: Neelam gupta on AIA APPROVALS

>

>

>

> Dear Mr. Prashant ji,

>

> Ancient_Indian_ Astrology {AIA}= do not that NUMBER of moderators

you

> mentioned in your original mail. The only key moderator of that

AIA

> group is the group owner Mr. Sreenadh himself. There are many

worthy

> members who have subject core interest and knowledge, come up with

new

> topics in the group. Dr. Neelam ji was NEVER banned in that

group as

> mentioned in your mail.... she has been active contributor to the

group.

> To my knowledge NO person has been banned till date - unless

someone is

> talking totally tangent or abusing others....

>

> Sorry, for this non_astro mail, posting to keep the records

straight.

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

 

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