Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Dear RRji, I hope u have noticed the fact that I have been CRITISISED for allowing all and sundry astrological or in the name of astrology posting replies. WHICH will automatically wipe out any doubt that I am judging someone or other I have felt the individual who reads it will decide that as u also said Kapil will decide that and sudhir could get a private msg I have said that even y'day. my only REQUEST TO SUDHIR like many others is some broad info helps their image a bit instead of querriests seeing a few dozens before trying to contact them one or two with some visible signs of a astrological reply helps them and the subject its students a LOT, no queeiest will EVER have the time to or inclination to read all the tech stuff so tht is also not my appeal too occassionally let them do it on their own one big point will beserved- the ones who have not been contributing HERE and judging the forum as self-appointed JUDGES OF ALL FORUUMS its contributers worth will dessist a bit. THE PAST WEEK ITSELF U HAVE WITNESSED LIKE ME AND OTHERS WHAT i MEAN sudhir and like other who may read it pl remember u will have a helping hand from a moderator like me as long as the owner wishes to keep me in this job giving u all the space and time u need to feel free, free from pressure; free from critism, countering, cross posting on ur readings the querriests will finally decide whom to trust his questions with a error or two will get there and it is their Karmic balance that has to be spent to get the right one anyhwere from anyone be it a start up astrologer or a professional. Best wishes prashant I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:42:35 AM Re: Kindly Assist Dear Kumar ji, Obviously all the fire, smoke and steam that we recently witnessed did not get any attention ;-) In this specific instance, and I hope I am not treading over any sensitive toes etc but this is how I would look at it: Kapil posted a free reading request. Sudhir Taurus responded giving a reading but without astrological details. Rather than forcing Sudhir to produce evidence that he is a genuine astrologer and not writing fiction, I would trust the wisdom of Kapil to 'take it or leave it'. Please note that Sudhir did not ask Kapil to chant 108 *13 reps of some mantra or send donations to him or anyone else or feed 317 cows 14 kg of dubba or to name his first son " Sudhir " etc! At the best he has inculcated some hope in Kapil's sinking spirits and that cannot be all that bad. But other astrologers doubting and introducing doubts into what Sudhir said created confusion in Kapil's mind and therefore actually destroyed any positive effect that Sudhir's message had. I do not know Sudhir from Adam other than what he claimed in his 'tail piece' that he is a consulting astrologer which one gentleman was recommending that all should add. Now it is possible that Kapil may write a private email or request for further reading from Sudhir and so on, but that is private matter and not our business. Unless Sudhir turns out to be a total scam and Kapil starts posting their private web conversations and private email in trying to turn this forum as an Astrology Appeal Board, I would have not problem as to what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their conversation and business arrangement. Power is a scary thing because like a double-edged sword, it cuts both ways! I repeat: We all should stop assuming that every other astrologer other than us is a scam-artist, knows hardly any astrology, and assume the mission of ridding the world of all of these astrologers who are bringing bad name to astrology. God knows, despite all kinds of POWERFUL INFLUENCES raging their wrath for millenia, Astrology has survived rulers, tyrants, religious tyrants -- both within and without its cultural boundaries and shines today like it has not shone for hundreds of years! Once again, anyone who logs-in and sounds pathetic and needy must not be assumed to be someone who is a child and needs to be protected by us mighty astrologers. Let us STOP patronizing! ! Rohiniranjan , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Sudhir, > > I hope u r seing the thread by AV pathi ki and Bhaskar ji, APART FROM MY FREQUENT REQUESTS FROM ASTROLOGERS to give some baci analytical parameters does help not only the querriest but also those intendeding to learn the subject apart from assuring them it is a astrological reading a SINGLE LINE view is not as convincing > > just like wen u c a Doctor u do expect him not to give u a tablet alone do u? u expect to know what is wrong or right isnt it? > > > of course no one needs all the info behind some info helps > > Best wishes > > prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ ...> > > Friday, December 12, 2008 8:16:20 PM > Re: Kindly Assist > > > Dear Kapil, > > During late Feb and March you will get the job. > > Best wishes, > Sudhir > Consulting Astrologer > > On 12/12/08, budhraja_kapil <budhraja_kapil@ grouply.com> wrote: > > > > Dear Hareshji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > Need your favor to study my birth chart,I lost my job and by when I can > > able to get new job, kindly assist. > > > > My DOB : 26-08-1970 > > My TOB : 04:55am > > My POB : Delhi > > > > Just to share with you I just recovered from my illess after more then > > 2 and half month and job is also gone on the basis of medical grounds. > > > > Thank You. > > > > Regards, > > Kapil > > > > > > > > -- > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Dear Kumar ji, Thanks for your response. You (moderators actually) were doing your duty that you have assumed and accolades to you for that. It is not an easy job. You sometimes remind me of " misir-jee " in my 'Chela-Tales' series that I shared over time! Misir-jee had the difficult job of riding a green Hercules (or was it Hermes brand?) bicycle throughout the dark night saying intermittently, " Jaagtay Raho! " . The villagers detested him because he kept them awake! I presume that the robbers didn't love Misir-jee either!! To each his own!!! RR , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear RRji, > > I hope u have noticed the fact that I have been CRITISISED for allowing all and sundry astrological or in the name of astrology posting replies. > > WHICH will automatically wipe out any doubt that I am judging someone or other I have felt the individual who reads it will decide that as u also said Kapil will decide that and sudhir could get a private msg I have said that even y'day. > > my only REQUEST TO SUDHIR like many others is some broad info helps their image a bit instead of querriests seeing a few dozens before trying to contact them one or two with some visible signs of a astrological reply helps them and the subject its students a LOT, no queeiest will EVER have the time to or inclination to read all the tech stuff so tht is also not my appeal too > > occassionally let them do it on their own one big point will beserved- the ones who have not been contributing HERE and judging the forum as self-appointed JUDGES OF ALL FORUUMS its contributers worth will dessist a bit. > > THE PAST WEEK ITSELF U HAVE WITNESSED LIKE ME AND OTHERS WHAT i MEAN > > sudhir and like other who may read it pl remember u will have a helping hand from a moderator like me as long as the owner wishes to keep me in this job giving u all the space and time u need to feel free, free from pressure; free from critism, countering, cross posting on ur readings > > the querriests will finally decide whom to trust his questions with a error or two will get there and it is their Karmic balance that has to be spent to get the right one anyhwere from anyone be it a start up astrologer or a professional. > > Best wishes > > prashant > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database? method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan > > Sunday, December 14, 2008 6:42:35 AM > Re: Kindly Assist > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > Obviously all the fire, smoke and steam that we recently witnessed > did not get any attention ;-) > > In this specific instance, and I hope I am not treading over any > sensitive toes etc but this is how I would look at it: > > Kapil posted a free reading request. > > Sudhir Taurus responded giving a reading but without astrological > details. > > Rather than forcing Sudhir to produce evidence that he is a genuine > astrologer and not writing fiction, I would trust the wisdom of Kapil > to 'take it or leave it'. > > Please note that Sudhir did not ask Kapil to chant 108 *13 reps of > some mantra or send donations to him or anyone else or feed 317 cows > 14 kg of dubba or to name his first son " Sudhir " etc! > > At the best he has inculcated some hope in Kapil's sinking spirits > and that cannot be all that bad. But other astrologers doubting and > introducing doubts into what Sudhir said created confusion in Kapil's > mind and therefore actually destroyed any positive effect that > Sudhir's message had. > > I do not know Sudhir from Adam other than what he claimed in > his 'tail piece' that he is a consulting astrologer which one > gentleman was recommending that all should add. Now it is possible > that Kapil may write a private email or request for further reading > from Sudhir and so on, but that is private matter and not our > business. Unless Sudhir turns out to be a total scam and Kapil starts > posting their private web conversations and private email in trying > to turn this forum as an Astrology Appeal Board, I would have not > problem as to what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their > conversation and business arrangement. > > Power is a scary thing because like a double-edged sword, it cuts > both ways! > > I repeat: We all should stop assuming that every other astrologer > other than us is a scam-artist, knows hardly any astrology, and > assume the mission of ridding the world of all of these astrologers > who are bringing bad name to astrology. God knows, despite all kinds > of POWERFUL INFLUENCES raging their wrath for millenia, Astrology has > survived rulers, tyrants, religious tyrants -- both within and > without its cultural boundaries and shines today like it has not > shone for hundreds of years! Once again, anyone who logs-in and > sounds pathetic and needy must not be assumed to be someone who is a > child and needs to be protected by us mighty astrologers. Let us STOP > patronizing! ! > > Rohiniranjan > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Sudhir, > > > > I hope u r seing the thread by AV pathi ki and Bhaskar ji, APART > FROM MY FREQUENT REQUESTS FROM ASTROLOGERS to give some baci > analytical parameters does help not only the querriest but also those > intendeding to learn the subject apart from assuring them it is a > astrological reading a SINGLE LINE view is not as convincing > > > > just like wen u c a Doctor u do expect him not to give u a tablet > alone do u? u expect to know what is wrong or right isnt it? > > > > > > of course no one needs all the info behind some info helps > > > > Best wishes > > > > prashant > > > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification > provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the > Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or > to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group > for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? > method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Sudhir <taurus.sudhir@ ...> > > > > Friday, December 12, 2008 8:16:20 PM > > Re: Kindly Assist > > > > > > Dear Kapil, > > > > During late Feb and March you will get the job. > > > > Best wishes, > > Sudhir > > Consulting Astrologer > > > > On 12/12/08, budhraja_kapil <budhraja_kapil@ grouply.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hareshji, > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > Need your favor to study my birth chart,I lost my job and by when > I can > > > able to get new job, kindly assist. > > > > > > My DOB : 26-08-1970 > > > My TOB : 04:55am > > > My POB : Delhi > > > > > > Just to share with you I just recovered from my illess after more > then > > > 2 and half month and job is also gone on the basis of medical > grounds. > > > > > > Thank You. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kapil > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sudhir Consulting Astrologer > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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