Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help 26/11

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Meera,

 

u must be living in a color blind world. every system has its advantages,

disadvantages and no system is tamper proff by being careless anyone can ruin

the safty or warranty of the marriage the moment the principal players

disregard its norms

 

there r just LOVE MARRIAGES in west why r there so many broken marriages ppl

marrying today seperating before many have just after the Engagement dates

itself broken apart

 

how many couples have not remarried a few times some with both of them having

children from earlier marriages too having their own together and also

seperating

 

the advantage of a rranged marriage r many if properly understood by all

concerned

 

1 the choice made by the family elders is selected on a few parameters that can

ensure a compatible to happy married life

2, parents or other members in the in-laws do act as suchion in many cases and

some as thorns too in managing a crisis, ppl learn to share jibs,

responsiblities if anyone is sick or needs some guidence it is there from the

elders and comes free unlike a psychatrist or counsellors even some do coach

children in the family, give them some good moral background than the ones with

paid day care which is part time how can such children ever long anyone in long

run be it parents, teachers leave alone their spouses.

 

havea open mind u can see good and bad in all ysstems MARRIAGE MEANS IT IS NOT

ONLY BETWEEN 2 SEXES BUYT TWO FAMILIES,

 

u can ask for members here to show u how many love marriages have failed to each

one can quote as many as uwant

 

what do the broken love marriage ppl do get to alchol, drugs, sucides with no

one to fall backl as they r more mentally burdened by guilt of disrespecting

elders and no face to go back v few come back admiting mistakes anyday blood is

thicker than water ones family willtake care of them if they come back in time

of need/distress

 

best wishes

 

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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:09:15 PM

Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

 

 

Namaskar All,

 

Interesting topic on Love vs Arranged Marriage. I could not resist to

put some views in this topic. The first reason why some people opt

for arranged marriages are:

 

1. They are unable to find a partner themselves due to their approach

or they dont believe in themselves.

 

2. Because they do not believe in themselves they look for moral,

financial and social support from their parents.

 

I have seen many arranged marriages in miserable condition with

families staying to-gether for 11 long years and find that they are

not compatible to each other either break up or just drag the

relationship effecting the other family members. Arranged marriages

is something that a child is either forced or recommended to

playwith, but after sometime when the child finds a better,compatible

companion in either work-place or anywhere else, then he/she becomes

negligent towards the first spouse. Arranged marriages are due to

trail of previous relation breakups. Nowadays, arranged marriages are

just for financial security and nothing else. Therefore when the

financial side is intervened by in-laws then one can see cracks in

the relationship or daily useless arguments. How can someone love a

person who is recommended at the first place and if one doesnt love

that person but stays to-gether just for financial and social

reasons,why does he/she care for in-laws. The basic reason for hating

the in-laws is that the person doesnt love his spouse at the first

place, so it becomes difficult for him/her to accept the interference

of the other members who are connected to him/her due to the

relationship which is full of compromise and whose pillars stand on

financial and social issues with no favour on personal issues. I have

a friends who are in arranged and love marriage scenarios. I have

found that in love marriage the parents or in-laws are respected

properly, while in arranged the scenario is exactly opposite. The

very parents who searched the groom or bride are hated like anti-

social elements.

 

So in my view the parents should accept the children's choice and

fully support them, but on the other hand if children rely on

parent's choice then they should fully support it for a life time

instead of having wife at home and paramour outside.

 

Regards.

 

Meera Rai

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Thanks Jitenji, but it is not 'fresh' -- as in new!

>

> ;-)

>

> RR

>

>

> , " dahiyajiten "

> <dahiyajiten@ > wrote:

> >

> > Namaste RR Sir

> >

> > That was a wonderful line

> > " " We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-

SELVES " "

> > and this one too

> > " " Gods were created by humans in their image ...! " "

> >

> > please write more on this topic

> > its something fresh

> >

> > regards

> > jitender

> >

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > >

> > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > >

> > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> > >

> > > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> > >

> > > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

> prevailing

> > > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> > though,

> > > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> > modern

> > > reality.

> > >

> > > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> > cases

> > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and

there.

> > >

> > > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES -

-

> > two

> > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

> which

> > > has

> > > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> > have

> > > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> > discussion.

> > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get

married

> > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents

shiva

> > and

> > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> > comes

> > > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

> > have

> > > to

> > > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

> peacock

> > > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

> back

> > as

> > > a

> > > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > > ganesha

> > > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him

to

> > go

> > > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > > ganesha

> > > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their

parents

> > > feet

> > > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or

a

> > > good

> > > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> > parents

> > > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted

by

> > > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

> one

> > > but

> > > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha

gets

> > two

> > > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

> parents

> > > they

> > > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> > kartikeya

> > > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long

long

> > > time,

> > > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> > absence)

> > > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> > sons.

> > > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived

him

> > by

> > > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the

other

> > son

> > > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> > present.

> > > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> > tapas

> > > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in

the

> > form

> > > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> > srisailam

> > > is

> > > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > > >

> > > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> > moral,

> > > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

> backing

> > > the

> > > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> > direct)

> > > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

> rejected

> > as

> > > > you feel.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > >

> > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > > >

> > > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on

the

> > web

> > > > and

> > > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

> would

> > > not

> > > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > > discussion

> > > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

> > was

> > > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

> > try

> > > it!

> > > > >

> > > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > > descriptions

> > > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > > freely,

> > > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > > misunderstood

> > > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next

few

> > > years,

> > > > I

> > > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > > >

> > > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate

consideration

> > > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know

exactly

> > what

> > > I

> > > > > implied!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> > proves

> > > > that

> > > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

> > you

> > > > have

> > > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love

life

> > > from

> > > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

> concentration

> > as

> > > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

> of

> > > that

> > > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> > well.

> > > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is

placed

> > > with

> > > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

> This

> > > > makes

> > > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded

against

> > > > because

> > > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work

and

> > > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> > female

> > > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had

n't

> > got

> > > > this

> > > > > point very clearly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With

so

> > much

> > > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to

understand

> > my

> > > > > mindset this time.

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ >

> > > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

> Please

> > > help

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> > aspecting

> > > > with

> > > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> > that

> > > is

> > > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual

can

> > be

> > > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd

house

> > and

> > > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

> romantic

> > > and

> > > > > this

> > > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is

influencing

> > the

> > > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > > professional

> > > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > > that " signals "

> > > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > one

> > > > > has

> > > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will

happen!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

> get

> > > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

> > lord

> > > of

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about

a

> > > > hastily

> > > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

> Astrology

> > > > would

> > > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > > deliberate

> > > > > in

> > > > > > their selection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> > Infact

> > > in

> > > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> > Request

> > > > all

> > > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > > marriage

> > > > > or

> > > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> > kundli

> > > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and the 5th lord

Mars

> > and

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

> the

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th

lords

> > > leads

> > > > to

> > > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> > both

> > > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th

house

> > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > > indicates

> > > > > the

> > > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus

the

> > > 11th

> > > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> > sitting

> > > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

> > love

> > > (As

> > > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in

8th

> > > house

> > > > > what

> > > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > > > ÂÂ

> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >