Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

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Respected Gurus and Experts,

 

I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact in depression as

well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request all of you to please advice

whether my marriage will be love marriage or arrange and when it will occur.

 

The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli related to

marriage

 

* The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars and 7th lord Saturn are

on the same house i.e third however both the planets are retorcrat..

Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords leads to love

marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both planets are retorcrat

and sitting on 3rd house.

 

* In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and Venus is in

12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again indicates the love marriage.

 

*The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the 11th house lord

sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting opposite to each other which

is agin the case of fall in love (As generally said). Again in this case as the

Venus is in 8th house what can be the impact.

 

The Birth details are -

D.O.B - 4 April 1982

Place - Karnal (Haryana)

Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

 

Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

Rajiv

 

 

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mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting with

double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury that is

forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can be

impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house and

aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and this

tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the

indicators that are related to work and earnings and professional

success. Should be careful with female colleagues so that " signals "

are not mis-read!

 

Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that one has

to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

 

Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord of 7th

is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a hastily

settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology would

advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and deliberate in

their selection.

 

 

 

, Rajiv Sharma

<rajivsharma4483 wrote:

>

> Respected Gurus and Experts,

>  

> I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact in

depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request all

of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love marriage or

arrange and when it will occur.

>

> The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli

related to marriage

>  

> * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars and 7th

lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the planets

are retorcrat..

> Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords leads to

love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both

planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

>  

> * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and Venus

is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again indicates the

love marriage.

>  

> *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the 11th

house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting

opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love (As

generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th house what

can be the impact.

>  

> The Birth details are -

> D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

>  

> Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> Rajiv

>

>

> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

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Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

 

Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis proves that astrology is

the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly you have anlayzed that I am very

much confused regarding the love life from mid July this year and it also

hamerring my work concentration as well. As you write down that love marriage is

not something that one has to go looking for. But there should be some

indications of that in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

well.

One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed with gulika in the

2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and

this tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the indicators

that are related to work and earnings and professional success. Should be

careful with female colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

got this point very clearly.

 

Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so much accurate

predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand my mindset this time.

 

Rajiv.

 

--- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

 

Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting with

double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury that is

forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can be

impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house and

aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and this

tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the

indicators that are related to work and earnings and professional

success. Should be careful with female colleagues so that " signals "

are not mis-read!

 

Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that one has

to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

 

Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord of 7th

is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a hastily

settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology would

advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and deliberate in

their selection.

 

, Rajiv Sharma

<rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

>

> Respected Gurus and Experts,

>  

> I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact in

depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request all

of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love marriage or

arrange and when it will occur.

>

> The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli

related to marriage

>  

> * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars and 7th

lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the planets

are retorcrat..

> Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords leads to

love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both

planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

>  

> * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and Venus

is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again indicates the

love marriage.

>  

> *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the 11th

house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting

opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love (As

generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th house what

can be the impact.

>  

> The Birth details are -

> D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

>  

> Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> Rajiv

>

>

> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

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Dear Rajiv Ji,

Can you please tell me your date of marriage.

According to me did you marry in the month of May 2006 ?

Thanks

Ramesh Mishra

 

Rajiv Sharma <rajivsharma4483 wrote:

 

Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

 

Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis proves that astrology is

the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly you have anlayzed that I am very

much confused regarding the love life from mid July this year and it also

hamerring my work concentration as well. As you write down that love marriage is

not something that one has to go looking for. But there should be some

indications of that in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

well.

One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed with gulika in the

2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and

this tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the indicators

that are related to work and earnings and professional success. Should be

careful with female colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

got this point very clearly.

 

Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so much accurate

predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand my mindset this time.

 

Rajiv.

 

--- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

 

Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

 

mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting with

double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury that is

forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can be

impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house and

aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and this

tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the

indicators that are related to work and earnings and professional

success. Should be careful with female colleagues so that " signals "

are not mis-read!

 

Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that one has

to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

 

Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord of 7th

is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a hastily

settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology would

advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and deliberate in

their selection.

 

, Rajiv Sharma

<rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

>

> Respected Gurus and Experts,

> Â

> I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact in

depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request all

of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love marriage or

arrange and when it will occur.

>

> The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli

related to marriage

> Â

> * The kundli is of cancer lagna and the 5th lord Mars and 7th

lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the planets

are retorcrat..

> Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords leads to

love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both

planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> Â

> * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and Venus

is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again indicates the

love marriage.

> Â

> *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the 11th

house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting

opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love (As

generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th house what

can be the impact.

> Â

> The Birth details are -

> D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> Â

> Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> Rajiv

>

>

> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

http://messenger. / invite/

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>

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Dear Rajiv,

 

For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

 

I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the web and

in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I would not

have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on discussion

fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it was

ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not try it!

 

I would have loved to post the links where more detailed descriptions

of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared freely,

even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be misunderstood

and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few years, I

must maintain self-restraint.

 

As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly what I

implied!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

, Rajiv Sharma

<rajivsharma4483 wrote:

>

>

> Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

>  

> Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis proves that

astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly you have

anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life from

mid July this year and it also hamerring my work concentration as

well. As you write down that love marriage is not something that one

has to go looking for. But there should be some indications of that

in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as well.

> One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed with

gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes

one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against because

it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

earnings and professional success. Should be careful with female

colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't got this

point very clearly.

>

> Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so much

accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand my

mindset this time.

>  

> Rajiv.

>

> --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

>

> Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting with

> double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury that is

> forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can be

> impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house and

> aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and

this

> tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the

> indicators that are related to work and earnings and professional

> success. Should be careful with female colleagues so that " signals "

> are not mis-read!

>

> Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that one

has

> to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

>

> Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

> very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord of

7th

> is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a hastily

> settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology would

> advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and deliberate

in

> their selection.

>

> , Rajiv Sharma

> <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> >  

> > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact in

> depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request all

> of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love marriage

or

> arrange and when it will occur.

> >

> > The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli

> related to marriage

> >  

> > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars and 7th

> lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the

planets

> are retorcrat..

> > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords leads to

> love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both

> planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> >  

> > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and

Venus

> is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again indicates

the

> love marriage.

> >  

> > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the 11th

> house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting

> opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love (As

> generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th house

what

> can be the impact.

> >  

> > The Birth details are -

> > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> >  

> > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > Rajiv

> >

> >

> > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> http://messenger. / invite/

> >

> >

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dear friends

 

albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story which has

an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

 

once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati have

become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a discussion.

both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva and

parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever comes

first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods have to

sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his peacock

vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come back as a

winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary, ganesha

realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to go

round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan, ganesha

falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents feet

to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a good

girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the parents

bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not one but

two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets two

sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from parents they

wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor kartikeya

is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long time,

he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his absence)

with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two sons.

then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him by

making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other son

in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be present.

then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do tapas

whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the form

of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in srisailam is

one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

 

though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the moral,

physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and backing the

children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

 

members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not direct)

message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or rejected as

you feel.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear Rajiv,

>

> For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

>

> I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the web

and

> in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I would not

> have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

discussion

> fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it was

> ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not try it!

>

> I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

descriptions

> of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared freely,

> even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

misunderstood

> and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few years,

I

> must maintain self-restraint.

>

> As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly what I

> implied!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> , Rajiv Sharma

> <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> >  

> > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis proves

that

> astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly you

have

> anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life from

> mid July this year and it also hamerring my work concentration as

> well. As you write down that love marriage is not something that

one

> has to go looking for. But there should be some indications of that

> in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as well.

> > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed with

> gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This

makes

> one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

because

> it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> earnings and professional success. Should be careful with female

> colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't got

this

> point very clearly.

> >

> > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so much

> accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand my

> mindset this time.

> >  

> > Rajiv.

> >

> > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

> >

> > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting

with

> > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury that is

> > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can be

> > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house and

> > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic and

> this

> > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the

> > indicators that are related to work and earnings and professional

> > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

that " signals "

> > are not mis-read!

> >

> > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that one

> has

> > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> >

> > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

> > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord of

> 7th

> > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

hastily

> > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology

would

> > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

deliberate

> in

> > their selection.

> >

> > , Rajiv Sharma

> > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > >  

> > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact in

> > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request

all

> > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love marriage

> or

> > arrange and when it will occur.

> > >

> > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli

> > related to marriage

> > >  

> > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars and

7th

> > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the

> planets

> > are retorcrat..

> > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords leads

to

> > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both

> > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > >  

> > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and

> Venus

> > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again indicates

> the

> > love marriage.

> > >  

> > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the 11th

> > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting

> > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love (As

> > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th house

> what

> > can be the impact.

> > >  

> > > The Birth details are -

> > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > >  

> > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > Rajiv

> > >

> > >

> > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > http://messenger. / invite/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Arjun ji!

 

What a wonderful reminder!

 

It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

 

Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

 

Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the prevailing

human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly though,

modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from modern

reality.

 

We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most cases

a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and there.

 

We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES -- two

realities that are not separate but just ONE!

 

RR

 

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story which

has

> an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

>

> once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati have

> become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a discussion.

> both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

> first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva and

> parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever comes

> first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods have

to

> sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his peacock

> vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come back as

a

> winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

ganesha

> realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to go

> round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

ganesha

> falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents

feet

> to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a

good

> girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the parents

> bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

> ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not one

but

> two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets two

> sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from parents

they

> wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor kartikeya

> is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long

time,

> he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his absence)

> with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two sons.

> then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him by

> making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other son

> in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be present.

> then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do tapas

> whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the form

> of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in srisailam

is

> one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

>

> though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the moral,

> physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and backing

the

> children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

>

> members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not direct)

> message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or rejected as

> you feel.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajiv,

> >

> > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> >

> > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the web

> and

> > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I would

not

> > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> discussion

> > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it was

> > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not try

it!

> >

> > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> descriptions

> > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

freely,

> > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> misunderstood

> > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few

years,

> I

> > must maintain self-restraint.

> >

> > As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly what

I

> > implied!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> > , Rajiv Sharma

> > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > >  

> > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis proves

> that

> > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly you

> have

> > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life

from

> > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work concentration as

> > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something that

> one

> > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications of

that

> > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as well.

> > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed

with

> > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This

> makes

> > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

> because

> > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with female

> > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't got

> this

> > point very clearly.

> > >

> > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so much

> > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand my

> > mindset this time.

> > >  

> > > Rajiv.

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please

help

> > >

> > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting

> with

> > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury that

is

> > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can be

> > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house and

> > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic

and

> > this

> > > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing the

> > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

professional

> > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> that " signals "

> > > are not mis-read!

> > >

> > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that

one

> > has

> > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> > >

> > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

> > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord

of

> > 7th

> > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

> hastily

> > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology

> would

> > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> deliberate

> > in

> > > their selection.

> > >

> > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > >  

> > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact

in

> > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy. Request

> all

> > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

marriage

> > or

> > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > >

> > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the kundli

> > > related to marriage

> > > >  

> > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars and

> 7th

> > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the

> > planets

> > > are retorcrat..

> > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords

leads

> to

> > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the both

> > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > >  

> > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house and

> > Venus

> > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

indicates

> > the

> > > love marriage.

> > > >  

> > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the

11th

> > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are sitting

> > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love

(As

> > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th

house

> > what

> > > can be the impact.

> > > >  

> > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > >  

> > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > Rajiv

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

dear RRji

 

your observation is correct that natives confuse history and

mythology. we present the ten headed ravan and the thousand headed

serpent adiseshu as mythology but present the monstersized dinosars

as history. similarly most hindu gods are treated as mythology and

moses, jesus, shirdisai and mohammed are treated as gods in history

with dating of their happenings.

 

however, i slightly shift the track or course of us as astrologers or

healers because we are faced with a native who is suffering from

something and is not able to identify who is haunting and what is

obstructing. like a doctor, we need to find the mythical, planetary

or otherwise problem giving forces and give a treatment to mollify

those forces and make the native relieved of such feelings.

 

suppose a person is suffering from backache, other than visiting a

hospital which should be his first option, whether he goes to an

astrology to find the problematic planet or visit a rural healer who

chants mumbojumbo aka mantras and soothingly heal with the feathers

of a peacock or neem leaves, the objective of all these varied

treatments is to heal or relieve the suffering and all that matters

in the end is whether the pain has gone or not.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear Arjun ji!

>

> What a wonderful reminder!

>

> It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

>

> Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

>

> Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the prevailing

> human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

though,

> modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from modern

> reality.

>

> We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

cases

> a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and there.

>

> We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES --

two

> realities that are not separate but just ONE!

>

> RR

>

>

> , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story which

> has

> > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> >

> > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

have

> > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

discussion.

> > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

> > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva

and

> > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

comes

> > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods have

> to

> > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his peacock

> > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come back

as

> a

> > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> ganesha

> > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to

go

> > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> ganesha

> > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents

> feet

> > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a

> good

> > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

parents

> > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

> > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not one

> but

> > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets

two

> > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from parents

> they

> > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

kartikeya

> > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long

> time,

> > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his absence)

> > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

sons.

> > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him by

> > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other

son

> > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

present.

> > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do tapas

> > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the

form

> > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

srisailam

> is

> > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> >

> > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the moral,

> > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and backing

> the

> > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> >

> > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

direct)

> > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or rejected

as

> > you feel.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajiv,

> > >

> > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > >

> > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the

web

> > and

> > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I would

> not

> > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > discussion

> > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it was

> > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not try

> it!

> > >

> > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > descriptions

> > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> freely,

> > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > misunderstood

> > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few

> years,

> > I

> > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > >

> > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly

what

> I

> > > implied!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > >

> > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > >  

> > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis proves

> > that

> > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly you

> > have

> > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life

> from

> > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work concentration

as

> > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

that

> > one

> > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications of

> that

> > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

well.

> > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed

> with

> > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This

> > makes

> > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

> > because

> > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

female

> > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

got

> > this

> > > point very clearly.

> > > >

> > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so

much

> > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand

my

> > > mindset this time.

> > > >  

> > > > Rajiv.

> > > >

> > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please

> help

> > > >

> > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada aspecting

> > with

> > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

that

> is

> > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can

be

> > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house

and

> > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic

> and

> > > this

> > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing

the

> > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> professional

> > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > that " signals "

> > > > are not mis-read!

> > > >

> > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something that

> one

> > > has

> > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> > > >

> > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

> > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently lord

> of

> > > 7th

> > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

> > hastily

> > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology

> > would

> > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > deliberate

> > > in

> > > > their selection.

> > > >

> > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > >  

> > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and Infact

> in

> > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

Request

> > all

> > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> marriage

> > > or

> > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > >

> > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

kundli

> > > > related to marriage

> > > > >  

> > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars

and

> > 7th

> > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the

> > > planets

> > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords

> leads

> > to

> > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

both

> > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > >  

> > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house

and

> > > Venus

> > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> indicates

> > > the

> > > > love marriage.

> > > > >  

> > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the

> 11th

> > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

sitting

> > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in love

> (As

> > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th

> house

> > > what

> > > > can be the impact.

> > > > >  

> > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > Rajiv

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Arjunji,

 

If I had a backache or shoulder-neck ache I would go to a

physiotherapist or (chiropractor, messsage therapist) -- not an

astrologer!

 

I was at a presentation today by a homeopath with holistic healing

experience and who uses reiki also -- presenting to a bunch of

scientists and some M.D.s were present as well. Interesting

experience I would say ...!

 

To her benefit, Elizabeth was very open, mostly, and nearly NO DRAMA

at all!

 

 

My dream of perfection is when DIVINATION (all KINDS) gets to that

point as well -- through REAL PRACTICAL HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE! Not in

some isolated cases but in larger numbers...!

 

Rohiniranjan

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear RRji

>

> your observation is correct that natives confuse history and

> mythology. we present the ten headed ravan and the thousand headed

> serpent adiseshu as mythology but present the monstersized dinosars

> as history. similarly most hindu gods are treated as mythology and

> moses, jesus, shirdisai and mohammed are treated as gods in history

> with dating of their happenings.

>

> however, i slightly shift the track or course of us as astrologers

or

> healers because we are faced with a native who is suffering from

> something and is not able to identify who is haunting and what is

> obstructing. like a doctor, we need to find the mythical,

planetary

> or otherwise problem giving forces and give a treatment to mollify

> those forces and make the native relieved of such feelings.

>

> suppose a person is suffering from backache, other than visiting a

> hospital which should be his first option, whether he goes to an

> astrology to find the problematic planet or visit a rural healer

who

> chants mumbojumbo aka mantras and soothingly heal with the feathers

> of a peacock or neem leaves, the objective of all these varied

> treatments is to heal or relieve the suffering and all that matters

> in the end is whether the pain has gone or not.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjun ji!

> >

> > What a wonderful reminder!

> >

> > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> >

> > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> >

> > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

prevailing

> > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> though,

> > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

modern

> > reality.

> >

> > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> cases

> > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and there.

> >

> > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES --

> two

> > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

which

> > has

> > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > >

> > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> have

> > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> discussion.

> > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

> > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva

> and

> > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> comes

> > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

have

> > to

> > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

peacock

> > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

back

> as

> > a

> > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > ganesha

> > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to

> go

> > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > ganesha

> > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents

> > feet

> > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a

> > good

> > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> parents

> > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

> > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

one

> > but

> > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets

> two

> > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

parents

> > they

> > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> kartikeya

> > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long

> > time,

> > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

absence)

> > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> sons.

> > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him

by

> > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other

> son

> > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> present.

> > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

tapas

> > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the

> form

> > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> srisailam

> > is

> > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > >

> > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

moral,

> > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

backing

> > the

> > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > >

> > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> direct)

> > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

rejected

> as

> > > you feel.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > >

> > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > >

> > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the

> web

> > > and

> > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

would

> > not

> > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > discussion

> > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

was

> > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

try

> > it!

> > > >

> > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > descriptions

> > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > freely,

> > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > misunderstood

> > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few

> > years,

> > > I

> > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > >

> > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly

> what

> > I

> > > > implied!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

proves

> > > that

> > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

you

> > > have

> > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life

> > from

> > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

concentration

> as

> > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> that

> > > one

> > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

of

> > that

> > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> well.

> > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed

> > with

> > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

This

> > > makes

> > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

> > > because

> > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> female

> > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

> got

> > > this

> > > > point very clearly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so

> much

> > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand

> my

> > > > mindset this time.

> > > > >  

> > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

Please

> > help

> > > > >

> > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

aspecting

> > > with

> > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> that

> > is

> > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can

> be

> > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house

> and

> > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

romantic

> > and

> > > > this

> > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing

> the

> > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > professional

> > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > that " signals "

> > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

that

> > one

> > > > has

> > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> > > > >

> > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

get

> > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

lord

> > of

> > > > 7th

> > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

> > > hastily

> > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

Astrology

> > > would

> > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > deliberate

> > > > in

> > > > > their selection.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

Infact

> > in

> > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> Request

> > > all

> > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > marriage

> > > > or

> > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> kundli

> > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars

> and

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

the

> > > > planets

> > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords

> > leads

> > > to

> > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> both

> > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house

> and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > indicates

> > > > the

> > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the

> > 11th

> > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> sitting

> > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

love

> > (As

> > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th

> > house

> > > > what

> > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Namaste RR Sir

 

That was a wonderful line

" " We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES " "

and this one too

" " Gods were created by humans in their image ...! " "

 

please write more on this topic

its something fresh

 

regards

jitender

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear Arjun ji!

>

> What a wonderful reminder!

>

> It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

>

> Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

>

> Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the prevailing

> human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

though,

> modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

modern

> reality.

>

> We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

cases

> a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and there.

>

> We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES --

two

> realities that are not separate but just ONE!

>

> RR

>

>

> , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story which

> has

> > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> >

> > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

have

> > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

discussion.

> > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

> > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva

and

> > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

comes

> > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

have

> to

> > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his peacock

> > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come back

as

> a

> > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> ganesha

> > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to

go

> > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> ganesha

> > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents

> feet

> > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a

> good

> > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

parents

> > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

> > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not one

> but

> > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets

two

> > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from parents

> they

> > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

kartikeya

> > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long

> time,

> > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

absence)

> > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

sons.

> > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him

by

> > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other

son

> > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

present.

> > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

tapas

> > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the

form

> > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

srisailam

> is

> > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> >

> > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

moral,

> > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and backing

> the

> > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> >

> > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

direct)

> > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or rejected

as

> > you feel.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajiv,

> > >

> > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > >

> > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the

web

> > and

> > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I would

> not

> > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > discussion

> > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

was

> > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

try

> it!

> > >

> > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > descriptions

> > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> freely,

> > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > misunderstood

> > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few

> years,

> > I

> > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > >

> > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly

what

> I

> > > implied!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > >

> > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > >  

> > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

proves

> > that

> > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

you

> > have

> > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life

> from

> > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work concentration

as

> > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

that

> > one

> > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications of

> that

> > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

well.

> > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed

> with

> > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th. This

> > makes

> > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

> > because

> > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

female

> > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

got

> > this

> > > point very clearly.

> > > >

> > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so

much

> > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand

my

> > > mindset this time.

> > > >  

> > > > Rajiv.

> > > >

> > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please

> help

> > > >

> > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

aspecting

> > with

> > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

that

> is

> > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can

be

> > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house

and

> > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly romantic

> and

> > > this

> > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing

the

> > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> professional

> > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > that " signals "

> > > > are not mis-read!

> > > >

> > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

that

> one

> > > has

> > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> > > >

> > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would get

> > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

lord

> of

> > > 7th

> > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

> > hastily

> > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009. Astrology

> > would

> > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > deliberate

> > > in

> > > > their selection.

> > > >

> > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > >  

> > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

Infact

> in

> > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

Request

> > all

> > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> marriage

> > > or

> > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > >

> > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

kundli

> > > > related to marriage

> > > > >  

> > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars

and

> > 7th

> > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both the

> > > planets

> > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords

> leads

> > to

> > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

both

> > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > >  

> > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house

and

> > > Venus

> > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> indicates

> > > the

> > > > love marriage.

> > > > >  

> > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the

> 11th

> > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

sitting

> > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

love

> (As

> > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th

> house

> > > what

> > > > can be the impact.

> > > > >  

> > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > Rajiv

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

Indeed a beautiful line.

In the moment of despair and sadness when nothing seems to go

right..the pain and sufferring that makes our soul cry out...is

exactly that moment we turn inwards and say a silent prayer..

 

a prayer so powerful that actually connects us with ourselves and our

GOD.The most powerful prayer...that we have the power to believe and

the power of faith that things eventually will turn out just as we

wanted....that things will be just fine...

 

At that moment where you sit and reach out becomes your holy place

and the silent words become your prayer.

 

Regards

Ariam

 

 

, " dahiyajiten "

<dahiyajiten wrote:

>

> Namaste RR Sir

>

> That was a wonderful line

> " " We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES " "

> and this one too

> " " Gods were created by humans in their image ...! " "

>

> please write more on this topic

> its something fresh

>

> regards

> jitender

>

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjun ji!

> >

> > What a wonderful reminder!

> >

> > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> >

> > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> >

> > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

prevailing

> > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> though,

> > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> modern

> > reality.

> >

> > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> cases

> > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and there.

> >

> > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES --

> two

> > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

which

> > has

> > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > >

> > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> have

> > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> discussion.

> > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

> > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva

> and

> > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> comes

> > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

> have

> > to

> > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

peacock

> > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

back

> as

> > a

> > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > ganesha

> > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to

> go

> > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > ganesha

> > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents

> > feet

> > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a

> > good

> > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> parents

> > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

> > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

one

> > but

> > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets

> two

> > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

parents

> > they

> > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> kartikeya

> > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long

> > time,

> > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> absence)

> > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> sons.

> > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him

> by

> > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other

> son

> > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> present.

> > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> tapas

> > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the

> form

> > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> srisailam

> > is

> > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > >

> > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> moral,

> > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

backing

> > the

> > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > >

> > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> direct)

> > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

rejected

> as

> > > you feel.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > >

> > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > >

> > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the

> web

> > > and

> > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

would

> > not

> > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > discussion

> > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

> was

> > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

> try

> > it!

> > > >

> > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > descriptions

> > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > freely,

> > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > misunderstood

> > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few

> > years,

> > > I

> > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > >

> > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly

> what

> > I

> > > > implied!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> proves

> > > that

> > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

> you

> > > have

> > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life

> > from

> > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

concentration

> as

> > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> that

> > > one

> > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

of

> > that

> > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> well.

> > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed

> > with

> > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

This

> > > makes

> > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

> > > because

> > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> female

> > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

> got

> > > this

> > > > point very clearly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so

> much

> > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand

> my

> > > > mindset this time.

> > > > >  

> > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

Please

> > help

> > > > >

> > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> aspecting

> > > with

> > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> that

> > is

> > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can

> be

> > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house

> and

> > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

romantic

> > and

> > > > this

> > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing

> the

> > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > professional

> > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > that " signals "

> > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

> that

> > one

> > > > has

> > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> > > > >

> > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

get

> > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

> lord

> > of

> > > > 7th

> > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

> > > hastily

> > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

Astrology

> > > would

> > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > deliberate

> > > > in

> > > > > their selection.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> Infact

> > in

> > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> Request

> > > all

> > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > marriage

> > > > or

> > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> kundli

> > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars

> and

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

the

> > > > planets

> > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords

> > leads

> > > to

> > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> both

> > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house

> and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > indicates

> > > > the

> > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the

> > 11th

> > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> sitting

> > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

> love

> > (As

> > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th

> > house

> > > > what

> > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jitenji, but it is not 'fresh' -- as in new!

 

;-)

 

RR

 

 

, " dahiyajiten "

<dahiyajiten wrote:

>

> Namaste RR Sir

>

> That was a wonderful line

> " " We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES " "

> and this one too

> " " Gods were created by humans in their image ...! " "

>

> please write more on this topic

> its something fresh

>

> regards

> jitender

>

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjun ji!

> >

> > What a wonderful reminder!

> >

> > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> >

> > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> >

> > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

prevailing

> > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> though,

> > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> modern

> > reality.

> >

> > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> cases

> > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and there.

> >

> > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES --

> two

> > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

which

> > has

> > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > >

> > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> have

> > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> discussion.

> > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get married

> > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents shiva

> and

> > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> comes

> > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

> have

> > to

> > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

peacock

> > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

back

> as

> > a

> > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > ganesha

> > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him to

> go

> > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > ganesha

> > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their parents

> > feet

> > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or a

> > good

> > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> parents

> > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted by

> > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

one

> > but

> > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha gets

> two

> > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

parents

> > they

> > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> kartikeya

> > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long long

> > time,

> > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> absence)

> > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> sons.

> > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived him

> by

> > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the other

> son

> > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> present.

> > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> tapas

> > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in the

> form

> > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> srisailam

> > is

> > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > >

> > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> moral,

> > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

backing

> > the

> > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > >

> > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> direct)

> > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

rejected

> as

> > > you feel.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > >

> > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > >

> > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on the

> web

> > > and

> > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

would

> > not

> > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > discussion

> > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

> was

> > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

> try

> > it!

> > > >

> > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > descriptions

> > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > freely,

> > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > misunderstood

> > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next few

> > years,

> > > I

> > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > >

> > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate consideration

> > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know exactly

> what

> > I

> > > > implied!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > >  

> > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> proves

> > > that

> > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

> you

> > > have

> > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love life

> > from

> > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

concentration

> as

> > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> that

> > > one

> > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

of

> > that

> > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> well.

> > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is placed

> > with

> > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

This

> > > makes

> > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded against

> > > because

> > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work and

> > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> female

> > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had n't

> got

> > > this

> > > > point very clearly.

> > > > >

> > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With so

> much

> > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to understand

> my

> > > > mindset this time.

> > > > >  

> > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

Please

> > help

> > > > >

> > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> aspecting

> > > with

> > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> that

> > is

> > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual can

> be

> > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd house

> and

> > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

romantic

> > and

> > > > this

> > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is influencing

> the

> > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > professional

> > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > that " signals "

> > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

> that

> > one

> > > > has

> > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will happen!

> > > > >

> > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

get

> > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

> lord

> > of

> > > > 7th

> > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about a

> > > hastily

> > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

Astrology

> > > would

> > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > deliberate

> > > > in

> > > > > their selection.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> Infact

> > in

> > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> Request

> > > all

> > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > marriage

> > > > or

> > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> kundli

> > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord Mars

> and

> > > 7th

> > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

the

> > > > planets

> > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th lords

> > leads

> > > to

> > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> both

> > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th house

> and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > indicates

> > > > the

> > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus the

> > 11th

> > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> sitting

> > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

> love

> > (As

> > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in 8th

> > house

> > > > what

> > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Namaskar All,

 

Interesting topic on Love vs Arranged Marriage. I could not resist to

put some views in this topic. The first reason why some people opt

for arranged marriages are:

 

1. They are unable to find a partner themselves due to their approach

or they dont believe in themselves.

 

2. Because they do not believe in themselves they look for moral,

financial and social support from their parents.

 

I have seen many arranged marriages in miserable condition with

families staying to-gether for 11 long years and find that they are

not compatible to each other either break up or just drag the

relationship effecting the other family members. Arranged marriages

is something that a child is either forced or recommended to

playwith, but after sometime when the child finds a better,compatible

companion in either work-place or anywhere else, then he/she becomes

negligent towards the first spouse. Arranged marriages are due to

trail of previous relation breakups. Nowadays, arranged marriages are

just for financial security and nothing else. Therefore when the

financial side is intervened by in-laws then one can see cracks in

the relationship or daily useless arguments. How can someone love a

person who is recommended at the first place and if one doesnt love

that person but stays to-gether just for financial and social

reasons,why does he/she care for in-laws. The basic reason for hating

the in-laws is that the person doesnt love his spouse at the first

place, so it becomes difficult for him/her to accept the interference

of the other members who are connected to him/her due to the

relationship which is full of compromise and whose pillars stand on

financial and social issues with no favour on personal issues. I have

a friends who are in arranged and love marriage scenarios. I have

found that in love marriage the parents or in-laws are respected

properly, while in arranged the scenario is exactly opposite. The

very parents who searched the groom or bride are hated like anti-

social elements.

 

So in my view the parents should accept the children's choice and

fully support them, but on the other hand if children rely on

parent's choice then they should fully support it for a life time

instead of having wife at home and paramour outside.

 

Regards.

 

Meera Rai

 

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Thanks Jitenji, but it is not 'fresh' -- as in new!

>

> ;-)

>

> RR

>

>

> , " dahiyajiten "

> <dahiyajiten@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste RR Sir

> >

> > That was a wonderful line

> > " " We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-

SELVES " "

> > and this one too

> > " " Gods were created by humans in their image ...! " "

> >

> > please write more on this topic

> > its something fresh

> >

> > regards

> > jitender

> >

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > >

> > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > >

> > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> > >

> > > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> > >

> > > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

> prevailing

> > > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> > though,

> > > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> > modern

> > > reality.

> > >

> > > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> > cases

> > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and

there.

> > >

> > > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES -

-

> > two

> > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

> which

> > > has

> > > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> > have

> > > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> > discussion.

> > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get

married

> > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents

shiva

> > and

> > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> > comes

> > > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

> > have

> > > to

> > > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

> peacock

> > > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

> back

> > as

> > > a

> > > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > > ganesha

> > > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him

to

> > go

> > > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > > ganesha

> > > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their

parents

> > > feet

> > > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or

a

> > > good

> > > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> > parents

> > > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted

by

> > > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

> one

> > > but

> > > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha

gets

> > two

> > > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

> parents

> > > they

> > > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> > kartikeya

> > > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long

long

> > > time,

> > > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> > absence)

> > > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> > sons.

> > > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived

him

> > by

> > > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the

other

> > son

> > > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> > present.

> > > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> > tapas

> > > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in

the

> > form

> > > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> > srisailam

> > > is

> > > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > > >

> > > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> > moral,

> > > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

> backing

> > > the

> > > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> > direct)

> > > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

> rejected

> > as

> > > > you feel.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > > >

> > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > > >

> > > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on

the

> > web

> > > > and

> > > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

> would

> > > not

> > > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > > discussion

> > > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

> > was

> > > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

> > try

> > > it!

> > > > >

> > > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > > descriptions

> > > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > > freely,

> > > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > > misunderstood

> > > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next

few

> > > years,

> > > > I

> > > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > > >

> > > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate

consideration

> > > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know

exactly

> > what

> > > I

> > > > > implied!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> > proves

> > > > that

> > > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

> > you

> > > > have

> > > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love

life

> > > from

> > > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

> concentration

> > as

> > > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

> of

> > > that

> > > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> > well.

> > > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is

placed

> > > with

> > > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

> This

> > > > makes

> > > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded

against

> > > > because

> > > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work

and

> > > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> > female

> > > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had

n't

> > got

> > > > this

> > > > > point very clearly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With

so

> > much

> > > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to

understand

> > my

> > > > > mindset this time.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

> Please

> > > help

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> > aspecting

> > > > with

> > > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> > that

> > > is

> > > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual

can

> > be

> > > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd

house

> > and

> > > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

> romantic

> > > and

> > > > > this

> > > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is

influencing

> > the

> > > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > > professional

> > > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > > that " signals "

> > > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > one

> > > > > has

> > > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will

happen!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

> get

> > > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

> > lord

> > > of

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about

a

> > > > hastily

> > > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

> Astrology

> > > > would

> > > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > > deliberate

> > > > > in

> > > > > > their selection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> > Infact

> > > in

> > > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> > Request

> > > > all

> > > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > > marriage

> > > > > or

> > > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> > kundli

> > > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord

Mars

> > and

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

> the

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th

lords

> > > leads

> > > > to

> > > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> > both

> > > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th

house

> > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > > indicates

> > > > > the

> > > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus

the

> > > 11th

> > > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> > sitting

> > > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

> > love

> > > (As

> > > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in

8th

> > > house

> > > > > what

> > > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Sorry to intreupt  What about Love marriage which break with in a year or so

Who is responsible for that Every relation should be respected .Every one has

hi/her own importance whetther it is parents/children/husband/wife/inlaws/or I

have seen love marriages which are dragged due to children & often child is a

sufferrer

 

--- On Wed, 26/11/08, mg_art2000 <mg_art2000 wrote:

 

mg_art2000 <mg_art2000

Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios - Please help

 

Wednesday, 26 November, 2008, 6:39 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Namaskar All,

 

Interesting topic on Love vs Arranged Marriage. I could not resist to

put some views in this topic. The first reason why some people opt

for arranged marriages are:

 

1. They are unable to find a partner themselves due to their approach

or they dont believe in themselves.

 

2. Because they do not believe in themselves they look for moral,

financial and social support from their parents.

 

I have seen many arranged marriages in miserable condition with

families staying to-gether for 11 long years and find that they are

not compatible to each other either break up or just drag the

relationship effecting the other family members. Arranged marriages

is something that a child is either forced or recommended to

playwith, but after sometime when the child finds a better,compatible

companion in either work-place or anywhere else, then he/she becomes

negligent towards the first spouse. Arranged marriages are due to

trail of previous relation breakups. Nowadays, arranged marriages are

just for financial security and nothing else. Therefore when the

financial side is intervened by in-laws then one can see cracks in

the relationship or daily useless arguments. How can someone love a

person who is recommended at the first place and if one doesnt love

that person but stays to-gether just for financial and social

reasons,why does he/she care for in-laws. The basic reason for hating

the in-laws is that the person doesnt love his spouse at the first

place, so it becomes difficult for him/her to accept the interference

of the other members who are connected to him/her due to the

relationship which is full of compromise and whose pillars stand on

financial and social issues with no favour on personal issues. I have

a friends who are in arranged and love marriage scenarios. I have

found that in love marriage the parents or in-laws are respected

properly, while in arranged the scenario is exactly opposite. The

very parents who searched the groom or bride are hated like anti-

social elements.

 

So in my view the parents should accept the children's choice and

fully support them, but on the other hand if children rely on

parent's choice then they should fully support it for a life time

instead of having wife at home and paramour outside.

 

Regards.

 

Meera Rai

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Thanks Jitenji, but it is not 'fresh' -- as in new!

>

> ;-)

>

> RR

>

>

> , " dahiyajiten "

> <dahiyajiten@ > wrote:

> >

> > Namaste RR Sir

> >

> > That was a wonderful line

> > " " We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-

SELVES " "

> > and this one too

> > " " Gods were created by humans in their image ...! " "

> >

> > please write more on this topic

> > its something fresh

> >

> > regards

> > jitender

> >

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > >

> > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > >

> > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> > >

> > > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> > >

> > > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

> prevailing

> > > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> > though,

> > > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> > modern

> > > reality.

> > >

> > > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> > cases

> > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and

there.

> > >

> > > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES -

-

> > two

> > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

> which

> > > has

> > > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> > have

> > > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> > discussion.

> > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get

married

> > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents

shiva

> > and

> > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> > comes

> > > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

> > have

> > > to

> > > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

> peacock

> > > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

> back

> > as

> > > a

> > > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > > ganesha

> > > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him

to

> > go

> > > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > > ganesha

> > > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their

parents

> > > feet

> > > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or

a

> > > good

> > > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> > parents

> > > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted

by

> > > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

> one

> > > but

> > > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha

gets

> > two

> > > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

> parents

> > > they

> > > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> > kartikeya

> > > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long

long

> > > time,

> > > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> > absence)

> > > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> > sons.

> > > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived

him

> > by

> > > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the

other

> > son

> > > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> > present.

> > > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> > tapas

> > > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in

the

> > form

> > > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> > srisailam

> > > is

> > > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > > >

> > > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> > moral,

> > > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

> backing

> > > the

> > > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> > direct)

> > > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

> rejected

> > as

> > > > you feel.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > >

> > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > > >

> > > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on

the

> > web

> > > > and

> > > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

> would

> > > not

> > > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > > discussion

> > > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

> > was

> > > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

> > try

> > > it!

> > > > >

> > > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > > descriptions

> > > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > > freely,

> > > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > > misunderstood

> > > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next

few

> > > years,

> > > > I

> > > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > > >

> > > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate

consideration

> > > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know

exactly

> > what

> > > I

> > > > > implied!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> > proves

> > > > that

> > > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

> > you

> > > > have

> > > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love

life

> > > from

> > > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

> concentration

> > as

> > > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

> of

> > > that

> > > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> > well.

> > > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is

placed

> > > with

> > > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

> This

> > > > makes

> > > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded

against

> > > > because

> > > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work

and

> > > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> > female

> > > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had

n't

> > got

> > > > this

> > > > > point very clearly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With

so

> > much

> > > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to

understand

> > my

> > > > > mindset this time.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ >

> > > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

> Please

> > > help

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> > aspecting

> > > > with

> > > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> > that

> > > is

> > > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual

can

> > be

> > > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd

house

> > and

> > > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

> romantic

> > > and

> > > > > this

> > > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is

influencing

> > the

> > > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > > professional

> > > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > > that " signals "

> > > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > one

> > > > > has

> > > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will

happen!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

> get

> > > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

> > lord

> > > of

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about

a

> > > > hastily

> > > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

> Astrology

> > > > would

> > > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > > deliberate

> > > > > in

> > > > > > their selection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> > Infact

> > > in

> > > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> > Request

> > > > all

> > > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > > marriage

> > > > > or

> > > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> > kundli

> > > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord

Mars

> > and

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

> the

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th

lords

> > > leads

> > > > to

> > > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> > both

> > > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th

house

> > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > > indicates

> > > > > the

> > > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus

the

> > > 11th

> > > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> > sitting

> > > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

> > love

> > > (As

> > > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in

8th

> > > house

> > > > > what

> > > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

dear RRji

 

yes, each native thinks differently to answer a problem and some

stick to medicine, some self help, some healing, some astrology, some

do poojas at temples etc.

 

unfortunately in astrology, healing and divine recourse, the results

are not uniform always and at all times hence we are nowhere close to

a scientific way of applying a remedy to a problem.

 

you are fortunate to attend such presentations where you find science

and faith sit side by side. in india, we have little enoucragement

from scientists to sit along and support and what we face are

rationalists, scientists and athiests appearing in electronic and

print media and appealing natives not to believe in astrology and

orthodox faiths.

 

yes, we all in our limited reach and capacity, are trying to serve

others in various ways and means.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, " Rohiniranjan "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunji,

>

> If I had a backache or shoulder-neck ache I would go to a

> physiotherapist or (chiropractor, messsage therapist) -- not an

> astrologer!

>

> I was at a presentation today by a homeopath with holistic healing

> experience and who uses reiki also -- presenting to a bunch of

> scientists and some M.D.s were present as well. Interesting

> experience I would say ...!

>

> To her benefit, Elizabeth was very open, mostly, and nearly NO

DRAMA

> at all!

>

>

> My dream of perfection is when DIVINATION (all KINDS) gets to that

> point as well -- through REAL PRACTICAL HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE! Not in

> some isolated cases but in larger numbers...!

>

> Rohiniranjan

> , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear RRji

> >

> > your observation is correct that natives confuse history and

> > mythology. we present the ten headed ravan and the thousand

headed

> > serpent adiseshu as mythology but present the monstersized

dinosars

> > as history. similarly most hindu gods are treated as mythology

and

> > moses, jesus, shirdisai and mohammed are treated as gods in

history

> > with dating of their happenings.

> >

> > however, i slightly shift the track or course of us as

astrologers

> or

> > healers because we are faced with a native who is suffering from

> > something and is not able to identify who is haunting and what is

> > obstructing. like a doctor, we need to find the mythical,

> planetary

> > or otherwise problem giving forces and give a treatment to

mollify

> > those forces and make the native relieved of such feelings.

> >

> > suppose a person is suffering from backache, other than visiting

a

> > hospital which should be his first option, whether he goes to an

> > astrology to find the problematic planet or visit a rural healer

> who

> > chants mumbojumbo aka mantras and soothingly heal with the

feathers

> > of a peacock or neem leaves, the objective of all these varied

> > treatments is to heal or relieve the suffering and all that

matters

> > in the end is whether the pain has gone or not.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > >

> > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > >

> > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat reworded...:

> > >

> > > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> > >

> > > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

> prevailing

> > > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> > though,

> > > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> modern

> > > reality.

> > >

> > > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In most

> > cases

> > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and

there.

> > >

> > > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-SELVES -

-

> > two

> > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

> which

> > > has

> > > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and parvati

> > have

> > > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> > discussion.

> > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get

married

> > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents

shiva

> > and

> > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and whosoever

> > comes

> > > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of gods

> have

> > > to

> > > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

> peacock

> > > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

> back

> > as

> > > a

> > > > winner so that he would get married first. on the contrary,

> > > ganesha

> > > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow him

to

> > go

> > > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock vahan,

> > > ganesha

> > > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their

parents

> > > feet

> > > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy or

a

> > > good

> > > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> > parents

> > > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents, delighted

by

> > > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him not

> one

> > > but

> > > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha

gets

> > two

> > > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

> parents

> > > they

> > > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> > kartikeya

> > > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long

long

> > > time,

> > > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> absence)

> > > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> > sons.

> > > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived

him

> by

> > > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the

other

> > son

> > > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> > present.

> > > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> tapas

> > > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in

the

> > form

> > > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> > srisailam

> > > is

> > > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > > >

> > > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> moral,

> > > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

> backing

> > > the

> > > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > > >

> > > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> > direct)

> > > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

> rejected

> > as

> > > > you feel.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > > >

> > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > > >

> > > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on

the

> > web

> > > > and

> > > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

> would

> > > not

> > > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > > discussion

> > > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that it

> was

> > > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would not

> try

> > > it!

> > > > >

> > > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > > descriptions

> > > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been shared

> > > freely,

> > > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > > misunderstood

> > > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next

few

> > > years,

> > > > I

> > > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > > >

> > > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate

consideration

> > > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know

exactly

> > what

> > > I

> > > > > implied!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> proves

> > > > that

> > > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very Correctly

> you

> > > > have

> > > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love

life

> > > from

> > > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

> concentration

> > as

> > > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not something

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some indications

> of

> > > that

> > > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli as

> > well.

> > > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is

placed

> > > with

> > > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

> This

> > > > makes

> > > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded

against

> > > > because

> > > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work

and

> > > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> > female

> > > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had

n't

> > got

> > > > this

> > > > > point very clearly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With

so

> > much

> > > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to

understand

> > my

> > > > > mindset this time.

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

> Please

> > > help

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> aspecting

> > > > with

> > > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated mercury

> > that

> > > is

> > > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual

can

> > be

> > > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd

house

> > and

> > > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

> romantic

> > > and

> > > > > this

> > > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is

influencing

> > the

> > > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > > professional

> > > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > > that " signals "

> > > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not something

> that

> > > one

> > > > > has

> > > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will

happen!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one would

> get

> > > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes. Currently

> lord

> > > of

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring about

a

> > > > hastily

> > > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

> Astrology

> > > > would

> > > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > > deliberate

> > > > > in

> > > > > > their selection.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> Infact

> > > in

> > > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> > Request

> > > > all

> > > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be love

> > > marriage

> > > > > or

> > > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in the

> > kundli

> > > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord

Mars

> > and

> > > > 7th

> > > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however both

> the

> > > > > planets

> > > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th

lords

> > > leads

> > > > to

> > > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as the

> > both

> > > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th

house

> > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > > indicates

> > > > > the

> > > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus

the

> > > 11th

> > > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> > sitting

> > > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall in

> love

> > > (As

> > > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in

8th

> > > house

> > > > > what

> > > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Arjun ji,

 

Lest I gave the wrong impression! Scientists whether they are in

India or abroad are cut from the same 'cloth' as I am sure you know

what I mean ;-) So it is an uphill battle here as well.

Unfortunately, what happens in such interactions as per my experience

is that the scientist does not take the time or interest to at least

seriously become familiar with what the other party's beliefs are and

nor does the alternative healer or astrologer take the time to learn

the scientist's perspectives. This results in chaos and disbelief

because the scientist comes across as arrogant and hard-headed when

talking about the other person's subject and the healer/astrologer

begins to look ignorant when trying to utilize the concepts of

science. There are few rare individuals who have managed to learn

both languages seriously but the Ship is huge and would need more

than a few yeomen to get it to move out of the impasse it is in. I am

hopeful though!

 

Like I was sharing with a member a few minutes ago,

nativities/clients are too impatient and always looking for shortcuts

and get involved into these blame-games. Sadly, some astrologers also

use similar language and reinforce the concept that somehow it is

shani devta that is the root of misery and must be appeased through a

painless procedure or some magical remedy. Maybe in a few cases but I

seriously do not believe that one can get rid of karma without

getting involved! Particularly since the original karma was created

through " participation " !

 

Won't you agree?

 

RR

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear RRji

>

> yes, each native thinks differently to answer a problem and some

> stick to medicine, some self help, some healing, some astrology,

some

> do poojas at temples etc.

>

> unfortunately in astrology, healing and divine recourse, the

results

> are not uniform always and at all times hence we are nowhere close

to

> a scientific way of applying a remedy to a problem.

>

> you are fortunate to attend such presentations where you find

science

> and faith sit side by side. in india, we have little enoucragement

> from scientists to sit along and support and what we face are

> rationalists, scientists and athiests appearing in electronic and

> print media and appealing natives not to believe in astrology and

> orthodox faiths.

>

> yes, we all in our limited reach and capacity, are trying to serve

> others in various ways and means.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjunji,

> >

> > If I had a backache or shoulder-neck ache I would go to a

> > physiotherapist or (chiropractor, messsage therapist) -- not an

> > astrologer!

> >

> > I was at a presentation today by a homeopath with holistic

healing

> > experience and who uses reiki also -- presenting to a bunch of

> > scientists and some M.D.s were present as well. Interesting

> > experience I would say ...!

> >

> > To her benefit, Elizabeth was very open, mostly, and nearly NO

> DRAMA

> > at all!

> >

> >

> > My dream of perfection is when DIVINATION (all KINDS) gets to

that

> > point as well -- through REAL PRACTICAL HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE! Not

in

> > some isolated cases but in larger numbers...!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear RRji

> > >

> > > your observation is correct that natives confuse history and

> > > mythology. we present the ten headed ravan and the thousand

> headed

> > > serpent adiseshu as mythology but present the monstersized

> dinosars

> > > as history. similarly most hindu gods are treated as mythology

> and

> > > moses, jesus, shirdisai and mohammed are treated as gods in

> history

> > > with dating of their happenings.

> > >

> > > however, i slightly shift the track or course of us as

> astrologers

> > or

> > > healers because we are faced with a native who is suffering

from

> > > something and is not able to identify who is haunting and what

is

> > > obstructing. like a doctor, we need to find the mythical,

> > planetary

> > > or otherwise problem giving forces and give a treatment to

> mollify

> > > those forces and make the native relieved of such feelings.

> > >

> > > suppose a person is suffering from backache, other than

visiting

> a

> > > hospital which should be his first option, whether he goes to

an

> > > astrology to find the problematic planet or visit a rural

healer

> > who

> > > chants mumbojumbo aka mantras and soothingly heal with the

> feathers

> > > of a peacock or neem leaves, the objective of all these varied

> > > treatments is to heal or relieve the suffering and all that

> matters

> > > in the end is whether the pain has gone or not.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > > >

> > > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > > >

> > > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief' somewhat

reworded...:

> > > >

> > > > Gods were created by humans in their image ...!

> > > >

> > > > Hindu mythologies are really historical accounts of the

> > prevailing

> > > > human culture as other religious accounts are as well. Sadly

> > > though,

> > > > modern devotees disagree and separate religious history from

> > modern

> > > > reality.

> > > >

> > > > We are afterall the products of what came before us...! In

most

> > > cases

> > > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social mutations here and

> there.

> > > >

> > > > We humans are closest to God when we are closest to our-

SELVES -

> -

> > > two

> > > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas there is a story

> > which

> > > > has

> > > > > an implied message on getting arranged marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of shiva and

parvati

> > > have

> > > > > become marriagable age and the same thought comes as a

> > > discussion.

> > > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each wants to get

> married

> > > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons, the parents

> shiva

> > > and

> > > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the world and

whosoever

> > > comes

> > > > > first would get married. (imagine even the children of

gods

> > have

> > > > to

> > > > > sweat a lot just to get married). kartikeya goes on his

> > peacock

> > > > > vahan alround the globe to finish the world travel and come

> > back

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > winner so that he would get married first. on the

contrary,

> > > > ganesha

> > > > > realising that his body and his rat vahan does not allow

him

> to

> > > go

> > > > > round the globe compared to kartikeya and his peacock

vahan,

> > > > ganesha

> > > > > falls at the feet of the parents and not only confesses his

> > > > > weaknesses but also lay himself full surrender at their

> parents

> > > > feet

> > > > > to get him married. (just like in all cases of a good boy

or

> a

> > > > good

> > > > > girl blindly nodding his or her head to any match that the

> > > parents

> > > > > bring, ganesha seeks the same). then the parents,

delighted

> by

> > > > > ganesha's belief in parents getting him married, get him

not

> > one

> > > > but

> > > > > two wives viz. siddhi and buddhi and lo, with them ganesha

> gets

> > > two

> > > > > sons too viz. kshema and labha. (readers, please do not

> > > > > misunderstand that if a son seeks arranged marriage from

> > parents

> > > > they

> > > > > wont get two wives but get only one wife these days) poor

> > > kartikeya

> > > > > is still trotting the globe and once he comes after a long

> long

> > > > time,

> > > > > he realises that ganesha has already got married (in his

> > absence)

> > > > > with two wives arranged by his parents and also has got two

> > > sons.

> > > > > then sage narada tells kartikeya that his parents deceived

> him

> > by

> > > > > making him go elsewhere and performed the marriage of the

> other

> > > son

> > > > > in a hurry without waiting for the groom's brother to be

> > > present.

> > > > > then kartikeya goes to srisailam (in andhra pradesh) and do

> > tapas

> > > > > whereafter lord shiva and parvati go there to bless him in

> the

> > > form

> > > > > of mallikarjuna and bhramaramba and the holy shivling in

> > > srisailam

> > > > is

> > > > > one of the twelve jyotirlingas.

> > > > >

> > > > > though unrelated to astrology, such stories hightlight the

> > moral,

> > > > > physical, financial, social and all sorts of support and

> > backing

> > > > the

> > > > > children get when they go for an arranged marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > members, kindly note that the above is only an implied (not

> > > direct)

> > > > > message conveyed by this story which may be accepted or

> > rejected

> > > as

> > > > > you feel.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rajiv,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For starters: it is one word = Rohinranjan :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had hoped that through all the articles that I post on

> the

> > > web

> > > > > and

> > > > > > in print FREEly available at several sites and places, I

> > would

> > > > not

> > > > > > have to rehash and use/waste the limited message space on

> > > > > discussion

> > > > > > fora to re-explain all that. I tried that and found that

it

> > was

> > > > > > ineffective and sometimes mis-understood. Hence I would

not

> > try

> > > > it!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would have loved to post the links where more detailed

> > > > > descriptions

> > > > > > of my methods and understanding in jyotish have been

shared

> > > > freely,

> > > > > > even on commercial sites, but I am sure those would be

> > > > > misunderstood

> > > > > > and misinterpreted as self-promotion! Hence for the next

> few

> > > > years,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > must maintain self-restraint.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As to the important part and perhaps immediate

> consideration

> > > > > > regarding female coworkers/sisters: I think you know

> exactly

> > > what

> > > > I

> > > > > > implied!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > > <rajivsharma4483@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Rohini Ranjan Ji,

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for such detailed analysis. Your analysis

> > proves

> > > > > that

> > > > > > astrology is the most wonderful gift of God. Very

Correctly

> > you

> > > > > have

> > > > > > anlayzed that I am very much confused regarding the love

> life

> > > > from

> > > > > > mid July this year and it also hamerring my work

> > concentration

> > > as

> > > > > > well. As you write down that love marriage is not

something

> > > that

> > > > > one

> > > > > > has to go looking for. But there should be some

indications

> > of

> > > > that

> > > > > > in induvisual kundli.Is there is some yoga in my kundli

as

> > > well.

> > > > > > > One more thing I am bit confused about " Darakarak is

> placed

> > > > with

> > > > > > gulika in the 2nd house and aspected by venus in the 8th.

> > This

> > > > > makes

> > > > > > one overly romantic and this tendency must be guarded

> against

> > > > > because

> > > > > > it is influencing the indicators that are related to work

> and

> > > > > > earnings and professional success. Should be careful with

> > > female

> > > > > > colleagues so that " signals " are not mis-read! " . I had

> n't

> > > got

> > > > > this

> > > > > > point very clearly.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Once again , Thanks a lot for your great analysis. With

> so

> > > much

> > > > > > accurate predictions of my kundli, you are able to

> understand

> > > my

> > > > > > mindset this time.

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Rajiv.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > > > > > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios -

> > Please

> > > > help

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, 24 November, 2008, 12:45 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > mars and saturn, both retrograde sitting on upapada

> > aspecting

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > double strength (R and G drishti) the debilitated

mercury

> > > that

> > > > is

> > > > > > > forming a budhaditya yoga indicates that the individual

> can

> > > be

> > > > > > > impulsive. Darakarak is placed with gulika in the 2nd

> house

> > > and

> > > > > > > aspected by venus in the 8th. This makes one overly

> > romantic

> > > > and

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > tendency must be guarded against because it is

> influencing

> > > the

> > > > > > > indicators that are related to work and earnings and

> > > > professional

> > > > > > > success. Should be careful with female colleagues so

> > > > > that " signals "

> > > > > > > are not mis-read!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unlike arranged marriage, love marriage is not

something

> > that

> > > > one

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > to go looking for! If it is going to happen, it will

> happen!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mid-July 2008 to mid-January is a period where one

would

> > get

> > > > > > > very 'antsy' about lovelife, as the term goes.

Currently

> > lord

> > > > of

> > > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > is transiting the darakaraka and may actually bring

about

> a

> > > > > hastily

> > > > > > > settled marriage in the first five months of 2009.

> > Astrology

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > advice the nativity and his parents etc to be picky and

> > > > > deliberate

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > their selection.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Rajiv Sharma

> > > > > > > <rajivsharma4483@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Gurus and Experts,

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > I am in confusion regarding my marriage scenario and

> > Infact

> > > > in

> > > > > > > depression as well. I have just 5-10% idea of astrolgy.

> > > Request

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > of you to please advice whether my marriage will be

love

> > > > marriage

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > arrange and when it will occur.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The following are some of the interesting facts in

the

> > > kundli

> > > > > > > related to marriage

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > * The kundli is of cancer lagna and  the 5th lord

> Mars

> > > and

> > > > > 7th

> > > > > > > lord Saturn are on the same house i.e third however

both

> > the

> > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > are retorcrat..

> > > > > > > > Its often said that the combination of 5th and 7th

> lords

> > > > leads

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > love marriage.What will be the result in this case as

the

> > > both

> > > > > > > planets are retorcrat and sitting on 3rd house.

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > * In the Navamsha of the kundli MARS is in the 6th

> house

> > > and

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > is in 12th.Rahu is also sitting with Mars, which again

> > > > indicates

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > love marriage.

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > *The lagna lord Moon is siting on 2nd house and Venus

> the

> > > > 11th

> > > > > > > house lord sitting on 8th house i.e Moon and Venus are

> > > sitting

> > > > > > > opposite to each other which is agin the case of fall

in

> > love

> > > > (As

> > > > > > > generally said). Again in this case as the Venus is in

> 8th

> > > > house

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > can be the impact.

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > The Birth details are -

> > > > > > > > D.O.B - 4 April 1982

> > > > > > > > Place - Karnal (Haryana)

> > > > > > > > Time - 13.56 (1.56 PM)

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your valuable contribution

> > > > > > > > Rajiv

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

> > > > > > > http://messenger. / invite/

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

hello all,

 

The point is nothing is perfect and have its own adv.

& disadvantages. If a system has comparitively more

advantages then nothing wrong in going for it and also

its always better to cross a high traffic road with

open eyes only.

 

ajay

--- Seema Shukla <seema41064 wrote:

 

> Sorry to intreupt  What about Love marriage which

> break with in a year or so Who is responsible for

> that Every relation should be respected .Every one

> has hi/her own importance whetther it is

> parents/children/husband/wife/inlaws/or I have seen

> love marriages which are dragged due to children &

> often child is a sufferrer

>

> --- On Wed, 26/11/08, mg_art2000

> <mg_art2000 wrote:

>

> mg_art2000 <mg_art2000

> Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios

> - Please help

>

> Wednesday, 26 November, 2008, 6:39 AM

Namaskar All,

>

> Interesting topic on Love vs Arranged Marriage. I

> could not resist to

> put some views in this topic. The first reason why

> some people opt

> for arranged marriages are:

>

> 1. They are unable to find a partner themselves due

> to their approach

> or they dont believe in themselves.

>

> 2. Because they do not believe in themselves they

> look for moral,

> financial and social support from their parents.

>

> I have seen many arranged marriages in miserable

> condition with

> families staying to-gether for 11 long years and

> find that they are

> not compatible to each other either break up or just

> drag the

> relationship effecting the other family members.

> Arranged marriages

> is something that a child is either forced or

> recommended to

> playwith, but after sometime when the child finds a

> better,compatible

> companion in either work-place or anywhere else,

> then he/she becomes

> negligent towards the first spouse. Arranged

> marriages are due to

> trail of previous relation breakups. Nowadays,

> arranged marriages are

> just for financial security and nothing else.

> Therefore when the

> financial side is intervened by in-laws then one can

> see cracks in

> the relationship or daily useless arguments. How can

> someone love a

> person who is recommended at the first place and if

> one doesnt love

> that person but stays to-gether just for financial

> and social

> reasons,why does he/she care for in-laws. The basic

> reason for hating

> the in-laws is that the person doesnt love his

> spouse at the first

> place, so it becomes difficult for him/her to accept

> the interference

> of the other members who are connected to him/her

> due to the

> relationship which is full of compromise and whose

> pillars stand on

> financial and social issues with no favour on

> personal issues. I have

> a friends who are in arranged and love marriage

> scenarios. I have

> found that in love marriage the parents or in-laws

> are respected

> properly, while in arranged the scenario is exactly

> opposite. The

> very parents who searched the groom or bride are

> hated like anti-

> social elements.

>

> So in my view the parents should accept the

> children's choice and

> fully support them, but on the other hand if

> children rely on

> parent's choice then they should fully support it

> for a life time

> instead of having wife at home and paramour outside.

>

> Regards.

>

> Meera Rai

>

> ,

> " Rohiniranjan "

> <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Jitenji, but it is not 'fresh' -- as in

> new!

> >

> > ;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > ,

> " dahiyajiten "

> > <dahiyajiten@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste RR Sir

> > >

> > > That was a wonderful line

> > > " " We humans are closest to God when we are

> closest to our-

> SELVES " "

> > > and this one too

> > > " " Gods were created by humans in their image

> ...! " "

> > >

> > > please write more on this topic

> > > its something fresh

> > >

> > > regards

> > > jitender

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> " Rohiniranjan "

> > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > > >

> > > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > > >

> > > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief'

> somewhat reworded...:

> > > >

> > > > Gods were created by humans in their image

> ...!

> > > >

> > > > Hindu mythologies are really historical

> accounts of the

> > prevailing

> > > > human culture as other religious accounts are

> as well. Sadly

> > > though,

> > > > modern devotees disagree and separate

> religious history from

> > > modern

> > > > reality.

> > > >

> > > > We are afterall the products of what came

> before us...! In most

> > > cases

> > > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social

> mutations here and

> there.

> > > >

> > > > We humans are closest to God when we are

> closest to our-SELVES -

> -

> > > two

> > > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> " panditarjun2004 "

> > > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas

> there is a story

> > which

> > > > has

> > > > > an implied message on getting arranged

> marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of

> shiva and parvati

> > > have

> > > > > become marriagable age and the same thought

> comes as a

> > > discussion.

> > > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each

> wants to get

> married

> > > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons,

> the parents

> shiva

> > > and

> > > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the

> world

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Another way to look at it (there must be many other perspectives and

viewpoints I am sure): People tend to think that there is a 'perfect'

scenario in anything, let us say marriage in the context of current

discussion. And the perfect model is often quoted as one from

relatively earlier times, sometimes even from mythology. The fact is

that the society has changed, its rules of engagement and so on have

changed (I will not say 'evolved' necessarily and in our " perfect "

gold standards we do not take that REALITY into consideration). Also

add into that mix the fact that people talk more openly, share more

and so we perhaps 'know' more about marriages as opposed to earlier

when private REALLY used to be private!

 

Perhaps it is not that the disease has suddenly become more prevalent

but perhaps is being diagnosed more often!

 

There is a lot more that can be written about marriage and

relationship and the purpose and so on. But that will make the

discussion too heavy.

 

RR

 

, ajay saloni

<ajaysaloni2002 wrote:

>

> hello all,

>

> The point is nothing is perfect and have its own adv.

> & disadvantages. If a system has comparitively more

> advantages then nothing wrong in going for it and also

> its always better to cross a high traffic road with

> open eyes only.

>

> ajay

> --- Seema Shukla <seema41064 wrote:

>

> > Sorry to intreupt  What about Love marriage which

> > break with in a year or so Who is responsible for

> > that Every relation should be respected .Every one

> > has hi/her own importance whetther it is

> > parents/children/husband/wife/inlaws/or I have seen

> > love marriages which are dragged due to children &

> > often child is a sufferrer

> >

> > --- On Wed, 26/11/08, mg_art2000

> > <mg_art2000 wrote:

> >

> > mg_art2000 <mg_art2000

> > Re: Love / Arrange Marriage scenarios

> > - Please help

> >

> > Wednesday, 26 November, 2008, 6:39 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Namaskar All,

> >

> > Interesting topic on Love vs Arranged Marriage. I

> > could not resist to

> > put some views in this topic. The first reason why

> > some people opt

> > for arranged marriages are:

> >

> > 1. They are unable to find a partner themselves due

> > to their approach

> > or they dont believe in themselves.

> >

> > 2. Because they do not believe in themselves they

> > look for moral,

> > financial and social support from their parents.

> >

> > I have seen many arranged marriages in miserable

> > condition with

> > families staying to-gether for 11 long years and

> > find that they are

> > not compatible to each other either break up or just

> > drag the

> > relationship effecting the other family members.

> > Arranged marriages

> > is something that a child is either forced or

> > recommended to

> > playwith, but after sometime when the child finds a

> > better,compatible

> > companion in either work-place or anywhere else,

> > then he/she becomes

> > negligent towards the first spouse. Arranged

> > marriages are due to

> > trail of previous relation breakups. Nowadays,

> > arranged marriages are

> > just for financial security and nothing else.

> > Therefore when the

> > financial side is intervened by in-laws then one can

> > see cracks in

> > the relationship or daily useless arguments. How can

> > someone love a

> > person who is recommended at the first place and if

> > one doesnt love

> > that person but stays to-gether just for financial

> > and social

> > reasons,why does he/she care for in-laws. The basic

> > reason for hating

> > the in-laws is that the person doesnt love his

> > spouse at the first

> > place, so it becomes difficult for him/her to accept

> > the interference

> > of the other members who are connected to him/her

> > due to the

> > relationship which is full of compromise and whose

> > pillars stand on

> > financial and social issues with no favour on

> > personal issues. I have

> > a friends who are in arranged and love marriage

> > scenarios. I have

> > found that in love marriage the parents or in-laws

> > are respected

> > properly, while in arranged the scenario is exactly

> > opposite. The

> > very parents who searched the groom or bride are

> > hated like anti-

> > social elements.

> >

> > So in my view the parents should accept the

> > children's choice and

> > fully support them, but on the other hand if

> > children rely on

> > parent's choice then they should fully support it

> > for a life time

> > instead of having wife at home and paramour outside.

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Meera Rai

> >

> > ,

> > " Rohiniranjan "

> > <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks Jitenji, but it is not 'fresh' -- as in

> > new!

> > >

> > > ;-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > " dahiyajiten "

> > > <dahiyajiten@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste RR Sir

> > > >

> > > > That was a wonderful line

> > > > " " We humans are closest to God when we are

> > closest to our-

> > SELVES " "

> > > > and this one too

> > > > " " Gods were created by humans in their image

> > ...! " "

> > > >

> > > > please write more on this topic

> > > > its something fresh

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > jitender

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arjun ji!

> > > > >

> > > > > What a wonderful reminder!

> > > > >

> > > > > It reminds me of a long-standing 'belief'

> > somewhat reworded...:

> > > > >

> > > > > Gods were created by humans in their image

> > ...!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hindu mythologies are really historical

> > accounts of the

> > > prevailing

> > > > > human culture as other religious accounts are

> > as well. Sadly

> > > > though,

> > > > > modern devotees disagree and separate

> > religious history from

> > > > modern

> > > > > reality.

> > > > >

> > > > > We are afterall the products of what came

> > before us...! In most

> > > > cases

> > > > > a sequence with a few 'jumps' and social

> > mutations here and

> > there.

> > > > >

> > > > > We humans are closest to God when we are

> > closest to our-SELVES -

> > -

> > > > two

> > > > > realities that are not separate but just ONE!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ,

> > " panditarjun2004 "

> > > > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > albeit unrelated to astrology, in puranas

> > there is a story

> > > which

> > > > > has

> > > > > > an implied message on getting arranged

> > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > once ganesha and kartikeya, the two sons of

> > shiva and parvati

> > > > have

> > > > > > become marriagable age and the same thought

> > comes as a

> > > > discussion.

> > > > > > both ganesha and kartikeya says that each

> > wants to get

> > married

> > > > > > first. not to discriminate any of the sons,

> > the parents

> > shiva

> > > > and

> > > > > > parvati ask their sons to roam around the

> > world

> === message truncated ===

>