my health 22/11- more readings by others

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Bhaskarji

 

it is against the spirit of a forum to say that just one person should

answer a query and rest whoever sees it later must refrain from

answering, forums are ideas, concepts, knowledge sharing platforms and

if it is within the forum we can manage this good, we must not

encourage them hopping in every group each group must have the bank of

astrologers who can add or shed some light of their own on a query

without contradicting, or interfering, slighting anyother astrologers

reading. use the original thread of the query and not someone who has

replied to it.

 

none of us have reached any stage to say we know more than other one

and second there r many streams of local wisdom we have in this

country which each one of us would have had the fortune of gaining

unless we present it on a single case how can we relate to it that

there is so much depth in our great knowledge base?

 

Please look at astrological September issues during its life time so

many astros wrote on a single topic

 

during election time so many astrologers wrote on several charts of

the same contestants gave their views

 

I can remember one Sept 84 issue where Gayathri devi had said [saturn

the King maker issue] that Indira gandhi's had a violent combination

coming around the Kuja+rahu association and related to her marakas

there is danger to her person

 

same Issue r santhan said she will ROAR BACK TO POWER LIKE A LIONESS

 

next month she was assassinated Gayithri devi 's readings stands

vindicated with her readig but santhanam said his diagonosis is right

treatment wrong

 

samething happened in another case in Ronald reagon re-election and

his opponed same explanation he gave after he failed she got it right

 

we learn from both sides of it probably one is good up to diagnosis ,

but r they good enough to deliver the final outcome? time will tell

and only when we some plural views we know it. we learn from such elders

 

we must leave some wisdom for our next generation by sharing readings

on charts but never cross, contradict anyone it is not good for us

 

best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<rajiventerprises wrote:

>

>

> Dear Prashant ji,

>

> I would like to clear this.

>

> I do not have any personal discomfort in anybody answering a query

> already answered by me, but I just have a desire for all the members of

> th astrological community to not re-read and spend time and energies on

> what has already been done by one of their community member.

>

> I just have this issue , which of course I cannot force upon anyone, but

> as a a duty I inform all that " This person has been answered by me " .

> It is of course not mandatory for any one not to reply the member agan,

> and anyone is free to do so.

>

> But i would like to end this mail with a note, that unless we

> astrologers inform each other and do not respect the others readings, it

> will become a free for all, with the public taking advantage of each

> astrologers, and none of the astrologer would have served his purpose of

> either helping a native, or else impressing a prospective client.

>

> We would only be crushed again and again and used and capitalised by

> these who tak a bowl to each and every group begging for alms.

>

> Bhaskar.

, Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Seema

> >

> > pl see my replies to Amrutha, Nikil in this group and in

> vedic astrology

> >

> > the reply is same in any such case I am not worried if more than one

> reads a cse in a group as long as it is their own and dont contradict or

> ridicule others replies

> >

> > but Bhaskar ji from jyotish ganga has a different view he is not

> comfortable with somone reading a case he has already done a reading for

> >

> > we had a lot of heated exchanges on this in the past 2 yrs in this

> group i said I have no issues if he or anyone does a reading on a read

> case by anyone after all we exchange ideas, different views

> >

> > I AM AGAINST PPL posting in too many groups SEE MY VIES AS SAID ON THE

> 2 CASES I JUST SAID TODAY

> >

> > BTW NOW ME AND bHASKAR HAVE RESOLVED OUR DIFFERENCES SO MUT NOT TAKE

> it beyond what i meant

> >

> > that past we had huge differences on such cases

> > he had said same now too

> >

> > it is simple give his reading some time to pass and then get back in

> JG and then ask others as u wish till then give him his due, if u get

> more answers there or in any one group don't post in others for some

> time so that other cases also get attention.

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > prashant

> >

> >

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

> posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

> picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one

> or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID

> are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B

> Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

>

/database?method=reportRow\

> s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Seema Shukla seema41064@

> >

> > Friday, November 21, 2008 4:29:17 PM

> > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> >

> >

> > A very good evening sir

> > thanks for the reply But what remarks you will make to the people who

> are logging different forums till now & they are getting replies Now no

> one is making a hue & cry now no more slogans of free free free

> free........ ......... Is this the justice in eyes of the learned

> people.

> > Regards

> >

> > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar > wrote:

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

> > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> >

> > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 5:08 PM

> >

> > Seema

> >

> > we have to call a spade as spade no issue, we dont want members to

> post all over the forums and not care to use the replies effectively and

> blame astrology as u get good and bad readings which u can use properply

> if u give time for a few to happen either way before going to seek fresh

> advice

> >

> > just a s u do with health will u seek all hospitals or just one or tow

> to verify ur condition and a doctors views and proceed at the earliest

> on treatment respect astrologers who give u a reading give that its time

> to perform or fail for u then seek fresh ones if failed

> >

> > but dont forget to give feedback good or bad

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

> posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

> picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one

> or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID

> are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B

> Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

> method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Seema Shukla <seema41064@ . in>

> >

> > Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:30:11 PM

> > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> >

> > a very good evening to allof you

> > few days back when i posted my query there was a lots of debate

> Afterwards I stopped putting my point of view fine now one of the

> persons is inquiring in this forum as well as jyotish ganga also .He

> says he is need ful Now I can say so am I Now can any one preach me &

> talk about ethics now why there are no arguements & counter arguements

> Can you people now justify yourself Now I can also request to forward my

> query Is it so any comments ???????????? ????????? ????

> >

> > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar > wrote:

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

> > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> >

> > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 11:24 AM

> >

> > Dear Arjun hi, RRJi, Bhaskar ji, Pathi ji,

> >

> > a few good posts by u all an dI hope a v pathi takes this in th right

> spirit and continues to guide forum members here with his wosdom, and

> not take one experience out of proportion and leave us. each one of us

> have something to give and some thing to gain from one another. above

> all life is a never ending book with rich experiences good and bad and

> the pages we fill are there for rest to see.

> >

> > as arjun ji has said I had long ago created the database yellow pages

> where members can direct qurrents to seek professional help after

> convincing themselves of a few members reading s here

> >

> > I made a change in the groups home page making this clear too. which

> RRji said was needed I did this months ago with some much of such heated

> exerience over the years felt this is a necessity I had checked with the

> Owner Sri Tanveer ji and got his green signal and did this.

> >

> > what flows from this between 2 people seeking a private interaction/

> relationship is not the groups responsiblity is understood as well. as

> people go there by choice no compulsion. just providing some platform

> for it. as we don't have the luxury of time or relationships betwen our

> circles to know who is good in which city this is a global village so we

> can benefit and and equally help others.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ >

> >

> > Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:40:34 PM

> > Re: my health 20/11

> >

> > dear bhaskarji and other members

> >

> > thanks for your good words. all along i have been treating

> > astrologers akin to doctors, for doctors treat suffering patients to

> > relieve them of their pain and suffering while astrologers find out

> > the planetary and mythical (divine) afflictions and suggest suitable

> > remedies.

> >

> > we find doctors with simple rmp, mbbs, md and other specialisations

> > in each division and then you find small one room clinics to

> > hospitals to polyclinics to superspeciality 5star hospitals which

> > promote even medical tourism.

> >

> > similarly, we have astrologers in the traditional conservative rural

> > areas, small time astrologers with shops in cities, established

> > astrologers with proven testimonials of rich and famous in metros and

> > of course the astrologers with their shops on the net too.

> >

> > suffering natives and querents have an array of astrologers of their

> > choice to choose from, be it locally in their place of living or

> > through an online consultation.

> >

> > sometimes doctors conduct free medical camps etc. similarly there

> > are free astro reading groups on the net where a member is free to

> > ask a free reading in that group. as a contributing astrologer in

> > this group, our job is over once we give our reading. afterwards

> > whether the querent comes back or go to another group is not ur

> > concern. this is similar to a doctor's job getting over after

> > testing the patient and giving his prescription of medicines.

> > whether to buy medicines based on that prescription or visit another

> > doctor and get another prescription, is the intellectual choice and

> > right of the native about which we shall not bother.

> >

> > however, like all personal services in the services sector like

> > doctors and advocates, astrologers too are professionals and there is

> > no wrong in their offering paid professional services which this

> > group moderator has permitted to present in the database section.

> >

> > both astrologers and querents shall treat each other with respect

> > even if it is a free reading or a charity. for example, when

> > devotees set up langars or free food distribution centres at

> > pilgrimage places or elsewhere, they invite the visiting people who

> > take the food with respect and treat them as gods for accepting their

> > food. our scriptures narrate few vratas wherein the person prepares

> > delicious food and offers it to various bhakts and his vrat is

> > complete and he gets the merits and blessings only if the entire

> > cooked food is distributed or consumed by others. if there are no

> > visitors to take the food offered by the person doing the vrata, the

> > vrata is a failure. with such importance given to visitors who are

> > gods in disguise, let us all respect all alike, be it astrologers or

> > querents.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > Pranams.

> > >

> > > Your these lines sum it all -

> > >

> > > // on ethical lines, the astrologers are not expected to write to

> > the

> > > private id of the querents offering paid readings or paid remedies,

> > > unless the querent seeks from them speicifcally. //

> > >

> > > // ........and the astrologer's role is only reactive and

> > supportive

> > > in nature, AFTER the querent approach them. //

> > >

> > > Thank You for being straightforward and direct in talking.

> > >

> > > kind regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > this thread is going on and on and is confusing the suffering

> > > > querent, answering astrologers and readers alike.

> > > >

> > > > let me give my understanding of how an internet based astrology

> > > group

> > > > functions.

> > > >

> > > > the net based astro group is like a venue where several

> > astrologers

> > > > offer free and/or paid readings, clarify doubts to fellow

> > > > astrologers, share knowledge with astros and querents alike and

> > > other

> > > > related stuff. this particular group jyotish remedies is visited

> > > > mostly by querents who seek free readings or seek free remedies.

> > > > some querents seek professional paid readings and also paid

> > > > remedies. these querents are at liberty to choose their

> > > astrologers

> > > > of choice and seek their personal readings or remedies on the

> > > > astrologers' private mail and the concerned astrologers can offer

> > > or

> > > > decline as per their wish. what transpires outside the group has

> > > > nothing to do with the group. on ethical lines, the astrologers

> > > are

> > > > not expected to write to the private id of the querents offering

> > > paid

> > > > readings or paid remedies, unless the querent seeks from them

> > > > speicifcally.

> > > >

> > > > we find asrologers having shops and websites where they offer

> > their

> > > > paid services. some astrologers put boards outside their homes

> > and

> > > > offer these paid services from thier homes too. in andhra there

> > > is

> > > > a sect of foretellers (thousands in number) called koyadoras who

> > > keep

> > > > on visiting road after road and city after city and state after

> > > state

> > > > offering their predictions and remedies.

> > > >

> > > > my last word on this issue is that astrological consultancy, be

> > it

> > > > free or paid, is a subject matter of solicitation by the querent

> > > and

> > > > the hundred percent preference, choice and right vests with the

> > > > querent and the astrologer's role is only reactive and supportive

> > > in

> > > > nature, AFTER the querent approach them.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for seeing the subject in the FAIR WAY and my stand so

> > far

> > > > being vindicated here.

> > > > >

> > > > > we have a obligation to be seen as human being not otherwise

> > and

> > > > remember I said all that happens in public our stand must be

> > > > different from private ones, we must say a few words lesse than

> > > ones

> > > > involved in a exchange else importance of them itself is diluted.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > prashant

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:26:29 AM

> > > > > Re: my health 20/11

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have written a harsh mail to you, and take my words back,

> > with

> > > a

> > > > > apology. I never realised that the mail sent to you by Pathiji

> > > was

> > > > > sent on his own,and on your personal id, without being

> > requested

> > > > for,

> > > > > by you.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not endorse such actions. You had the right to reject that

> > > > mail.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear RRji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a well laid out reply I tried the same and did not get the

> > > > expected

> > > > > response not sure how this is seen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i had said both were wrong and more so a as ualso said

> > aperson

> > > > who

> > > > > is not fully aware of how groups/internet works in this context

> > i

> > > > > said she can be given a benefit of doubt as much as Pathi ji as

> > > > there

> > > > > is nothing wrong in offering private help her major blame lies

> > in

> > > > > posting private mail in public

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and here i said this must be settled mutually by both , both

> > > > taking

> > > > > a public platform and abusing one another and unfortunately it

> > > > became

> > > > > one v/s many for solidarity it is goood but if that also

> > happened

> > > > in

> > > > > public from start some part of it was in private space so they

> > > had

> > > > to

> > > > > go back there resolve it and be back either way

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I feel ur approach is the right one as u still have offred to

> > > > read

> > > > > her case inspite of all that happened we must retain a moral

> > > higher

> > > > > ground than the ones we r advising.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I had also asked the ones who doubted her to test her

> > > > [hilantrophy

> > > > > side by pointing top some temple or charity and see the

> > action

> > > > and

> > > > > give her the appropriate treatment it is like for a traffic

> > > offence

> > > > > like jumping the signal one gets a life term.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prashant

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:32:41 AM

> > > > > > Re: my health

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Neelam,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you for your explanation and giving us all some more

> > > > > > information about why you felt as if your privacy was

> > > encroached

> > > > > upon

> > > > > > by the astrologer who wrote to you privately.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is very important for each individual member to note

> > > carefully

> > > > > the

> > > > > > settings and surroundings in any group before joining in.

> >

> > > > > > allows two types of settings, one in which private emails can

> > > be

> > > > > > hidden and the other where this is not the case. Both have

> > > their

> > > > > > positives and negatives, with the former having potentially

> > > more

> > > > > > headaches for the moderators because then anyone can join the

> > > > forum

> > > > > > and post all kinds of stuff. It is sad but my sympathies will

> > > be

> > > > > with

> > > > > > the owner/moderator in this situation.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > People must realize that when someone posts on a forum with

> > > > > thousands

> > > > > > of members, 'privacy' becomes a luxury. This is why many

> > people

> > > > > > prefer paid readings. On a public forum that allows emails to

> > > be

> > > > > > displayed or allows the 'email' option, the given

> > understanding

> > > > is

> > > > > > that anyone can approach you through that portal. If the

> > offer

> > > > was

> > > > > > irrelevant and inflammatory, I would be siding with you but

> > > since

> > > > > in

> > > > > > this case you had requested astrological help and had not

> > > > indicated

> > > > > > that you do not wish to receive private offers for reading,

> > for

> > > > > which

> > > > > > the onus was on you, I see no blame should be put on Mr.

> > Pathi

> > > > who

> > > > > > had simply offered you with his astrological service. If he

> > had

> > > > > been

> > > > > > pestering you with emails or so on, then you could have

> > > > complained.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In this case, simply put, you acted in bad faith and with

> > > unclear

> > > > > > knowledge of where you were posting your request which you

> > > wished

> > > > > to

> > > > > > remain free but private, Mr. Pathi and not you is the injured

> > > > party!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please note that I do not know Mr. Pathi from Adam but I do

> > not

> > > > see

> > > > > > what wrong he did if all he did was send you ONE EMAIL

> > offering

> > > > his

> > > > > > astrological services.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You or anyone else may disagree with me but what is right is

> > > > right!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " nsenecha "

> > > > <nsenecha@ .>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > respected sir,

> > > > > > > pranam.

> > > > > > > sir, it is my polite request. plz. don't take it the other

> > > way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > yes, it is true, it was a personal email but my id was

> > taken

> > > > from

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > public forum. i was not knowing that he is allowed to send

> > > > private

> > > > > > > emails like this. i thought he should send it publicly.

> > > > > > > i am not sorry for that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sir, you have the right to question my intentions for

> > asking

> > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > here. i simply asked.if replied, thanked. if i wanted to

> > know

> > > > > more,

> > > > > > > requested again politely. not answered. no problem. you can

> > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > this from forum itself. i never abused anyone & not replied

> > > the

> > > > > > person

> > > > > > > in his language who abused me publicly. i never

> > complained.

> > > all

> > > > > > > persons are different. we have to maintain our line.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > only thing i want to say is= if we trust you [ or your

> > forum]

> > > > and

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > our personal details on public forum, no member should

> > offer

> > > > > > privately

> > > > > > > . if he wants to help or give some offer for help, should

> > > give

> > > > > here

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > this forum only.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sir, you tried to convince me like some elderly family

> > > member.

> > > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > my privilege. but to share my feelings with you is my right.

> > > > > > > plz. this time do not question my intentions. i may be

> > wrong.

> > > > you

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > point out my mistakes.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i am happy to be a silent reader since last few days. i can

> > > > learn

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > way also.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > ns

> > > > > > > ----

> > > > > > > , " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Neelam,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Perhaps you do not realize but you have posted in public

> > > > forum

> > > > > > Mr.

> > > > > > > > Pathi's private message quoting his fees! That is not

> > > > > appropriate.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This forum allows individuals to send private emails to

> > > > > posters,

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > the posters then should not post such emails on the

> > public

> > > > > forum

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > obvious reasons.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And this is not something that happens automatically as

> > in

> > > > > > pressing

> > > > > > > > the replying to sender button etc. from your emailer. You

> > > > would

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > to do some copying and pasting and so on.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > At first I thought Mr. Pathi posted the promotional

> > message

> > > > on

> > > > > > open

> > > > > > > > forum but then it seems that he sent a private email to

> > > you.

> > > > > You

> > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > the right to refuse his advances but it should have been

> > > done

> > > > > > > > privately and not in this manner.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It makes one question your intentions for posting your

> > > > original

> > > > > > > > request on the public forum :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is a known fact that astrologers charge for readings

> > and

> > > > > many

> > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > not wish to pay them for their services. This is a clear

> > > > > example

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > what we were discussing a few days ago. In this case,

> > > > obviously

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > intentions of the reading requester are questionable!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , neelam senecha

> > > > > > > > <nsenecha@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > respected A V Pathiji,

> > > > > > > > > namaskar,

> > > > > > > > > thanks for showing interest in answering my queries.

> > > > > > > > > i am sure u have already studied my horoscope. but i

> > > don't

> > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > on such things. i believe in helping poor persons or

> > > > renovation

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > temples.it reflects in my horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > i have some interest in learning jyotish . that's why i

> > > > gave

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > queries on this forum.

> > > > > > > > > i think i know me & myself very well. it will be very

> > > > helpful

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > understanding process.

> > > > > > > > > anyway thanks,

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > ns

> > > > > > > > > ------------ ---------

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > venkatachala pathi <pathiav@>

> > > > > > > > > nsenecha <nsenecha@>

> > > > > > > > > Monday, November 17, 2008 4:44:06 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: my health

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In case you wish to avail my services, I will be

> > pleased

> > > > > attend

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > your requirement. I am in the field for last 46 years

> > (aged

> > > > > 79),

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > widely popular in this field around many countries for

> > many

> > > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > Please give me your land line address for my records. My

> > > > > charges

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > reading Horoscope is US $ 50/- each, and I will be

> > sending

> > > > > > answers

> > > > > > > > for 4 questions asked by you over e-mail in four days

> > from

> > > > date

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > receipt of amount. I will be able to send you the copies

> > of

> > > > > > charts

> > > > > > > > (North indian/South Indian) with Vimshothri Desa detail

> > for

> > > > an

> > > > > > extra

> > > > > > > > charge of US $ 10/- each. On hearing from you. I will

> > > inform

> > > > > you

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > mode of remittance. Blessings,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.V.Pathi,

> > > > > > > > > North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > > > > > > > > 001-919-960- 3833

> > > > > > > > > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ )

> > > > > > > > > All private readings are chargeable.Disclaim er

> > > > > > > > > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it

> > > absolutely

> > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any

> > > > prediction

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > you receive from us is not to be considered as a

> > substitute

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > advice, program, or treatment that you would normally

> > > receive

> > > > > > from a

> > > > > > > > licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor,

> > > psychiatrist,

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > > financial advisor. A.V.Pathi and his team provide no

> > > > > guarantees,

> > > > > > > > implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and will

> > not

> > > > be

> > > > > > > > responsible for any interpretation made or use by the

> > > > recipient

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the information and data mentioned above. By the Grace of

> > > God

> > > > > we

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > only try to give our best and hope that our efforts will

> > > > > improve

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > life of our customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer and his

> > > team.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > nsenecha <nsenecha@>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:36:46 PM

> > > > > > > > > my health

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > happy diwali to all members.

> > > > > > > > > respected gurujis,

> > > > > > > > > pranam to u all.

> > > > > > > > > i am having many health problems like acute allergies,

> > > > > > > > > hypertension, uterus fibroids [operation

> > > > > recommended] ,fats.can

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > over them? my DOB=15TH.APRIL1962, POB=MAWANA[ UP],

> > > TOB=22:30

> > > > > > [+/ -

> > > > > > > > 20MINUTES] .

> > > > > > > > > imp. events in life=marriage in feb.1985,son was born in

> > > > > > > > > jan.1986,right hand & elbow fracture in nov. 1988,

> > > daughter

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > > dec.1989. allergies since childhood[nose

> > > > pollips].controlled

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > 1984.

> > > > > > > > > but from 8-10 years around again activated along with

> > > above

> > > > > > > > mentioned

> > > > > > > > > problems.

> > > > > > > > > my husband is a scientist. his DOB=03JULY,1959;

> > > > POB=PRATAPGARH

> > > > > [

> > > > > > > > RAJ.]

> > > > > > > > > TOB=23:22.

> > > > > > > > > KINDLY explain my horoscope & suggest me something

> > > > > accordingly.

> > > > > > > > > with regards

> > > > > > > > > ns

> > > > > > > > > ------------ ------

> > > > > > > > > p.s. can i have some knowledge of astrology?

> > > > > > > > > ------------ ------

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Kumarji,

 

The way I saw it was that Bhaskar ji was sharing his position and

recommendation and that I think is fine to do.

 

Even in the November 2008 Express StarTeller issue Obama's victory

over McCain was announced in an article in no uncertain terms by one

of the contributors using a chart and birthdata that was very

different from what others use!

 

This is what has always surprised me and 'picked' my cat-ears (those

of you who have experienced a cat would know!) up and tuned!

 

We have blood-baths over ayanamsha and this and that and the other

and yet surprisingly ...;-)

 

It should not be so, right?

 

Not in something claimed and touted as **SCIENCE**!

 

 

 

, " YOUR ONLINE ASTROLOGER "

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskarji

>

> it is against the spirit of a forum to say that just one person

should

> answer a query and rest whoever sees it later must refrain from

> answering, forums are ideas, concepts, knowledge sharing platforms

and

> if it is within the forum we can manage this good, we must not

> encourage them hopping in every group each group must have the bank

of

> astrologers who can add or shed some light of their own on a query

> without contradicting, or interfering, slighting anyother

astrologers

> reading. use the original thread of the query and not someone who

has

> replied to it.

>

> none of us have reached any stage to say we know more than other one

> and second there r many streams of local wisdom we have in this

> country which each one of us would have had the fortune of gaining

> unless we present it on a single case how can we relate to it that

> there is so much depth in our great knowledge base?

>

> Please look at astrological September issues during its life time so

> many astros wrote on a single topic

>

> during election time so many astrologers wrote on several charts of

> the same contestants gave their views

>

> I can remember one Sept 84 issue where Gayathri devi had said

[saturn

> the King maker issue] that Indira gandhi's had a violent combination

> coming around the Kuja+rahu association and related to her marakas

> there is danger to her person

>

> same Issue r santhan said she will ROAR BACK TO POWER LIKE A LIONESS

>

> next month she was assassinated Gayithri devi 's readings stands

> vindicated with her readig but santhanam said his diagonosis is

right

> treatment wrong

>

> samething happened in another case in Ronald reagon re-election and

> his opponed same explanation he gave after he failed she got it

right

>

> we learn from both sides of it probably one is good up to

diagnosis ,

> but r they good enough to deliver the final outcome? time will tell

> and only when we some plural views we know it. we learn from such

elders

>

> we must leave some wisdom for our next generation by sharing

readings

> on charts but never cross, contradict anyone it is not good for us

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> <rajiventerprises@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Prashant ji,

> >

> > I would like to clear this.

> >

> > I do not have any personal discomfort in anybody answering a query

> > already answered by me, but I just have a desire for all the

members of

> > th astrological community to not re-read and spend time and

energies on

> > what has already been done by one of their community member.

> >

> > I just have this issue , which of course I cannot force upon

anyone, but

> > as a a duty I inform all that " This person has been answered by

me " .

> > It is of course not mandatory for any one not to reply the member

agan,

> > and anyone is free to do so.

> >

> > But i would like to end this mail with a note, that unless we

> > astrologers inform each other and do not respect the others

readings, it

> > will become a free for all, with the public taking advantage of

each

> > astrologers, and none of the astrologer would have served his

purpose of

> > either helping a native, or else impressing a prospective client.

> >

> > We would only be crushed again and again and used and capitalised

by

> > these who tak a bowl to each and every group begging for alms.

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Seema

> > >

> > > pl see my replies to Amrutha, Nikil in this group and in

> > vedic astrology

> > >

> > > the reply is same in any such case I am not worried if more

than one

> > reads a cse in a group as long as it is their own and dont

contradict or

> > ridicule others replies

> > >

> > > but Bhaskar ji from jyotish ganga has a different view he is not

> > comfortable with somone reading a case he has already done a

reading for

> > >

> > > we had a lot of heated exchanges on this in the past 2 yrs in

this

> > group i said I have no issues if he or anyone does a reading on a

read

> > case by anyone after all we exchange ideas, different views

> > >

> > > I AM AGAINST PPL posting in too many groups SEE MY VIES AS SAID

ON THE

> > 2 CASES I JUST SAID TODAY

> > >

> > > BTW NOW ME AND bHASKAR HAVE RESOLVED OUR DIFFERENCES SO MUT NOT

TAKE

> > it beyond what i meant

> > >

> > > that past we had huge differences on such cases

> > > he had said same now too

> > >

> > > it is simple give his reading some time to pass and then get

back in

> > JG and then ask others as u wish till then give him his due, if u

get

> > more answers there or in any one group don't post in others for

some

> > time so that other cases also get attention.

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life

while

> > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a

> > picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one

> > or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my

personal ID

> > are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B

> > Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > >

> >

> /database?

method=reportRow\

> > s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Seema Shukla seema41064@

> > >

> > > Friday, November 21, 2008 4:29:17 PM

> > > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> > >

> > >

> > > A very good evening sir

> > > thanks for the reply But what remarks you will make to the

people who

> > are logging different forums till now & they are getting replies

Now no

> > one is making a hue & cry now no more slogans of free free free

> > free........ ......... Is this the justice in eyes of the learned

> > people.

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

> > > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> > >

> > > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 5:08 PM

> > >

> > > Seema

> > >

> > > we have to call a spade as spade no issue, we dont want members

to

> > post all over the forums and not care to use the replies

effectively and

> > blame astrology as u get good and bad readings which u can use

properply

> > if u give time for a few to happen either way before going to

seek fresh

> > advice

> > >

> > > just a s u do with health will u seek all hospitals or just one

or tow

> > to verify ur condition and a doctors views and proceed at the

earliest

> > on treatment respect astrologers who give u a reading give that

its time

> > to perform or fail for u then seek fresh ones if failed

> > >

> > > but dont forget to give feedback good or bad

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will

differ

> > from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life

while

> > posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a

> > picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one

> > or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my

personal ID

> > are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B

> > Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

> > method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Seema Shukla <seema41064@ . in>

> > >

> > > Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:30:11 PM

> > > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> > >

> > > a very good evening to allof you

> > > few days back when i posted my query there was a lots of debate

> > Afterwards I stopped putting my point of view fine now one of the

> > persons is inquiring in this forum as well as jyotish ganga

also .He

> > says he is need ful Now I can say so am I Now can any one preach

me &

> > talk about ethics now why there are no arguements & counter

arguements

> > Can you people now justify yourself Now I can also request to

forward my

> > query Is it so any comments ???????????? ????????? ????

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

wrote:

> > >

> > > Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar >

> > > Re: Re: my health 20/11

> > >

> > > Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 11:24 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun hi, RRJi, Bhaskar ji, Pathi ji,

> > >

> > > a few good posts by u all an dI hope a v pathi takes this in th

right

> > spirit and continues to guide forum members here with his wosdom,

and

> > not take one experience out of proportion and leave us. each one

of us

> > have something to give and some thing to gain from one another.

above

> > all life is a never ending book with rich experiences good and

bad and

> > the pages we fill are there for rest to see.

> > >

> > > as arjun ji has said I had long ago created the database yellow

pages

> > where members can direct qurrents to seek professional help after

> > convincing themselves of a few members reading s here

> > >

> > > I made a change in the groups home page making this clear too.

which

> > RRji said was needed I did this months ago with some much of such

heated

> > exerience over the years felt this is a necessity I had checked

with the

> > Owner Sri Tanveer ji and got his green signal and did this.

> > >

> > > what flows from this between 2 people seeking a private

interaction/

> > relationship is not the groups responsiblity is understood as

well. as

> > people go there by choice no compulsion. just providing some

platform

> > for it. as we don't have the luxury of time or relationships

betwen our

> > circles to know who is good in which city this is a global

village so we

> > can benefit and and equally help others.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ >

> > >

> > > Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:40:34 PM

> > > Re: my health 20/11

> > >

> > > dear bhaskarji and other members

> > >

> > > thanks for your good words. all along i have been treating

> > > astrologers akin to doctors, for doctors treat suffering

patients to

> > > relieve them of their pain and suffering while astrologers find

out

> > > the planetary and mythical (divine) afflictions and suggest

suitable

> > > remedies.

> > >

> > > we find doctors with simple rmp, mbbs, md and other

specialisations

> > > in each division and then you find small one room clinics to

> > > hospitals to polyclinics to superspeciality 5star hospitals

which

> > > promote even medical tourism.

> > >

> > > similarly, we have astrologers in the traditional conservative

rural

> > > areas, small time astrologers with shops in cities, established

> > > astrologers with proven testimonials of rich and famous in

metros and

> > > of course the astrologers with their shops on the net too.

> > >

> > > suffering natives and querents have an array of astrologers of

their

> > > choice to choose from, be it locally in their place of living or

> > > through an online consultation.

> > >

> > > sometimes doctors conduct free medical camps etc. similarly

there

> > > are free astro reading groups on the net where a member is free

to

> > > ask a free reading in that group. as a contributing astrologer

in

> > > this group, our job is over once we give our reading. afterwards

> > > whether the querent comes back or go to another group is not ur

> > > concern. this is similar to a doctor's job getting over after

> > > testing the patient and giving his prescription of medicines.

> > > whether to buy medicines based on that prescription or visit

another

> > > doctor and get another prescription, is the intellectual choice

and

> > > right of the native about which we shall not bother.

> > >

> > > however, like all personal services in the services sector like

> > > doctors and advocates, astrologers too are professionals and

there is

> > > no wrong in their offering paid professional services which this

> > > group moderator has permitted to present in the database

section.

> > >

> > > both astrologers and querents shall treat each other with

respect

> > > even if it is a free reading or a charity. for example, when

> > > devotees set up langars or free food distribution centres at

> > > pilgrimage places or elsewhere, they invite the visiting people

who

> > > take the food with respect and treat them as gods for accepting

their

> > > food. our scriptures narrate few vratas wherein the person

prepares

> > > delicious food and offers it to various bhakts and his vrat is

> > > complete and he gets the merits and blessings only if the entire

> > > cooked food is distributed or consumed by others. if there are

no

> > > visitors to take the food offered by the person doing the

vrata, the

> > > vrata is a failure. with such importance given to visitors who

are

> > > gods in disguise, let us all respect all alike, be it

astrologers or

> > > querents.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pandit ji,

> > > > Pranams.

> > > >

> > > > Your these lines sum it all -

> > > >

> > > > // on ethical lines, the astrologers are not expected to

write to

> > > the

> > > > private id of the querents offering paid readings or paid

remedies,

> > > > unless the querent seeks from them speicifcally. //

> > > >

> > > > // ........and the astrologer's role is only reactive and

> > > supportive

> > > > in nature, AFTER the querent approach them. //

> > > >

> > > > Thank You for being straightforward and direct in talking.

> > > >

> > > > kind regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " panditarjun2004 "

> > > > <panditarjun2004@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > this thread is going on and on and is confusing the

suffering

> > > > > querent, answering astrologers and readers alike.

> > > > >

> > > > > let me give my understanding of how an internet based

astrology

> > > > group

> > > > > functions.

> > > > >

> > > > > the net based astro group is like a venue where several

> > > astrologers

> > > > > offer free and/or paid readings, clarify doubts to fellow

> > > > > astrologers, share knowledge with astros and querents alike

and

> > > > other

> > > > > related stuff. this particular group jyotish remedies is

visited

> > > > > mostly by querents who seek free readings or seek free

remedies.

> > > > > some querents seek professional paid readings and also paid

> > > > > remedies. these querents are at liberty to choose their

> > > > astrologers

> > > > > of choice and seek their personal readings or remedies on

the

> > > > > astrologers' private mail and the concerned astrologers can

offer

> > > > or

> > > > > decline as per their wish. what transpires outside the

group has

> > > > > nothing to do with the group. on ethical lines, the

astrologers

> > > > are

> > > > > not expected to write to the private id of the querents

offering

> > > > paid

> > > > > readings or paid remedies, unless the querent seeks from

them

> > > > > speicifcally.

> > > > >

> > > > > we find asrologers having shops and websites where they

offer

> > > their

> > > > > paid services. some astrologers put boards outside their

homes

> > > and

> > > > > offer these paid services from thier homes too. in andhra

there

> > > > is

> > > > > a sect of foretellers (thousands in number) called

koyadoras who

> > > > keep

> > > > > on visiting road after road and city after city and state

after

> > > > state

> > > > > offering their predictions and remedies.

> > > > >

> > > > > my last word on this issue is that astrological

consultancy, be

> > > it

> > > > > free or paid, is a subject matter of solicitation by the

querent

> > > > and

> > > > > the hundred percent preference, choice and right vests with

the

> > > > > querent and the astrologer's role is only reactive and

supportive

> > > > in

> > > > > nature, AFTER the querent approach them.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com

> > > > >

> > > > > , Prashant Kumar G

B

> > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks for seeing the subject in the FAIR WAY and my

stand so

> > > far

> > > > > being vindicated here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we have a obligation to be seen as human being not

otherwise

> > > and

> > > > > remember I said all that happens in public our stand must be

> > > > > different from private ones, we must say a few words lesse

than

> > > > ones

> > > > > involved in a exchange else importance of them itself is

diluted.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > prashant

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:26:29 AM

> > > > > > Re: my health 20/11

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have written a harsh mail to you, and take my words

back,

> > > with

> > > > a

> > > > > > apology. I never realised that the mail sent to you by

Pathiji

> > > > was

> > > > > > sent on his own,and on your personal id, without being

> > > requested

> > > > > for,

> > > > > > by you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do not endorse such actions. You had the right to

reject that

> > > > > mail.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prashant Kumar

G B

> > > > > > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear RRji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a well laid out reply I tried the same and did not get

the

> > > > > expected

> > > > > > response not sure how this is seen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i had said both were wrong and more so a as ualso said

> > > aperson

> > > > > who

> > > > > > is not fully aware of how groups/internet works in this

context

> > > i

> > > > > > said she can be given a benefit of doubt as much as Pathi

ji as

> > > > > there

> > > > > > is nothing wrong in offering private help her major blame

lies

> > > in

> > > > > > posting private mail in public

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and here i said this must be settled mutually by both ,

both

> > > > > taking

> > > > > > a public platform and abusing one another and

unfortunately it

> > > > > became

> > > > > > one v/s many for solidarity it is goood but if that also

> > > happened

> > > > > in

> > > > > > public from start some part of it was in private space so

they

> > > > had

> > > > > to

> > > > > > go back there resolve it and be back either way

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I feel ur approach is the right one as u still have

offred to

> > > > > read

> > > > > > her case inspite of all that happened we must retain a

moral

> > > > higher

> > > > > > ground than the ones we r advising.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had also asked the ones who doubted her to test her

> > > > > [hilantrophy

> > > > > > side by pointing top some temple or charity and see the

> > > action

> > > > > and

> > > > > > give her the appropriate treatment it is like for a

traffic

> > > > offence

> > > > > > like jumping the signal one gets a life term.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prashant

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:32:41 AM

> > > > > > > Re: my health

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Neelam,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thank you for your explanation and giving us all some

more

> > > > > > > information about why you felt as if your privacy was

> > > > encroached

> > > > > > upon

> > > > > > > by the astrologer who wrote to you privately.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is very important for each individual member to note

> > > > carefully

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > settings and surroundings in any group before joining

in.

> > >

> > > > > > > allows two types of settings, one in which private

emails can

> > > > be

> > > > > > > hidden and the other where this is not the case. Both

have

> > > > their

> > > > > > > positives and negatives, with the former having

potentially

> > > > more

> > > > > > > headaches for the moderators because then anyone can

join the

> > > > > forum

> > > > > > > and post all kinds of stuff. It is sad but my

sympathies will

> > > > be

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > the owner/moderator in this situation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People must realize that when someone posts on a forum

with

> > > > > > thousands

> > > > > > > of members, 'privacy' becomes a luxury. This is why many

> > > people

> > > > > > > prefer paid readings. On a public forum that allows

emails to

> > > > be

> > > > > > > displayed or allows the 'email' option, the given

> > > understanding

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > that anyone can approach you through that portal. If the

> > > offer

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > irrelevant and inflammatory, I would be siding with you

but

> > > > since

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > this case you had requested astrological help and had

not

> > > > > indicated

> > > > > > > that you do not wish to receive private offers for

reading,

> > > for

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > the onus was on you, I see no blame should be put on Mr.

> > > Pathi

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > had simply offered you with his astrological service.

If he

> > > had

> > > > > > been

> > > > > > > pestering you with emails or so on, then you could have

> > > > > complained.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In this case, simply put, you acted in bad faith and

with

> > > > unclear

> > > > > > > knowledge of where you were posting your request which

you

> > > > wished

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > remain free but private, Mr. Pathi and not you is the

injured

> > > > > party!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please note that I do not know Mr. Pathi from Adam but

I do

> > > not

> > > > > see

> > > > > > > what wrong he did if all he did was send you ONE EMAIL

> > > offering

> > > > > his

> > > > > > > astrological services.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You or anyone else may disagree with me but what is

right is

> > > > > right!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " nsenecha "

> > > > > <nsenecha@ .>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > respected sir,

> > > > > > > > pranam.

> > > > > > > > sir, it is my polite request. plz. don't take it the

other

> > > > way.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > yes, it is true, it was a personal email but my id was

> > > taken

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > public forum. i was not knowing that he is allowed to

send

> > > > > private

> > > > > > > > emails like this. i thought he should send it

publicly.

> > > > > > > > i am not sorry for that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sir, you have the right to question my intentions for

> > > asking

> > > > > > > questions

> > > > > > > > here. i simply asked.if replied, thanked. if i wanted

to

> > > know

> > > > > > more,

> > > > > > > > requested again politely. not answered. no problem.

you can

> > > > > > confirm

> > > > > > > > this from forum itself. i never abused anyone & not

replied

> > > > the

> > > > > > > person

> > > > > > > > in his language who abused me publicly. i never

> > > complained.

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > persons are different. we have to maintain our line.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > only thing i want to say is= if we trust you [ or your

> > > forum]

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > our personal details on public forum, no member should

> > > offer

> > > > > > > privately

> > > > > > > > . if he wants to help or give some offer for help,

should

> > > > give

> > > > > > here

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > this forum only.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sir, you tried to convince me like some elderly family

> > > > member.

> > > > > it

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > my privilege. but to share my feelings with you is my

right.

> > > > > > > > plz. this time do not question my intentions. i may be

> > > wrong.

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > point out my mistakes.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i am happy to be a silent reader since last few days.

i can

> > > > > learn

> > > > > > > this

> > > > > > > > way also.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > ns

> > > > > > > > ----

> > > > > > > > @ .

com, " Rohiniranjan "

> > > > > > > > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Neelam,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Perhaps you do not realize but you have posted in

public

> > > > > forum

> > > > > > > Mr.

> > > > > > > > > Pathi's private message quoting his fees! That is

not

> > > > > > appropriate.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > This forum allows individuals to send private

emails to

> > > > > > posters,

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > > the posters then should not post such emails on the

> > > public

> > > > > > forum

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > obvious reasons.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > And this is not something that happens

automatically as

> > > in

> > > > > > > pressing

> > > > > > > > > the replying to sender button etc. from your

emailer. You

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > to do some copying and pasting and so on.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > At first I thought Mr. Pathi posted the promotional

> > > message

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > open

> > > > > > > > > forum but then it seems that he sent a private

email to

> > > > you.

> > > > > > You

> > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > the right to refuse his advances but it should have

been

> > > > done

> > > > > > > > > privately and not in this manner.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It makes one question your intentions for posting

your

> > > > > original

> > > > > > > > > request on the public forum :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is a known fact that astrologers charge for

readings

> > > and

> > > > > > many

> > > > > > > do

> > > > > > > > > not wish to pay them for their services. This is a

clear

> > > > > > example

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > what we were discussing a few days ago. In this

case,

> > > > > obviously

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > intentions of the reading requester are

questionable!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , neelam

senecha

> > > > > > > > > <nsenecha@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > respected A V Pathiji,

> > > > > > > > > > namaskar,

> > > > > > > > > > thanks for showing interest in answering my

queries.

> > > > > > > > > > i am sure u have already studied my horoscope.

but i

> > > > don't

> > > > > > > spend

> > > > > > > > > on such things. i believe in helping poor persons or

> > > > > renovation

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > temples.it reflects in my horoscope.

> > > > > > > > > > i have some interest in learning jyotish . that's

why i

> > > > > gave

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > queries on this forum.

> > > > > > > > > > i think i know me & myself very well. it will be

very

> > > > > helpful

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > understanding process.

> > > > > > > > > > anyway thanks,

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > ns

> > > > > > > > > > ------------ ---------

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > venkatachala pathi <pathiav@>

> > > > > > > > > > nsenecha <nsenecha@>

> > > > > > > > > > Monday, November 17, 2008 4:44:06 AM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: my health

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In case you wish to avail my services, I will be

> > > pleased

> > > > > > attend

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > your requirement. I am in the field for last 46

years

> > > (aged

> > > > > > 79),

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > widely popular in this field around many countries

for

> > > many

> > > > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > > Please give me your land line address for my

records. My

> > > > > > charges

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > reading Horoscope is US $ 50/- each, and I will be

> > > sending

> > > > > > > answers

> > > > > > > > > for 4 questions asked by you over e-mail in four

days

> > > from

> > > > > date

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > receipt of amount. I will be able to send you the

copies

> > > of

> > > > > > > charts

> > > > > > > > > (North indian/South Indian) with Vimshothri Desa

detail

> > > for

> > > > > an

> > > > > > > extra

> > > > > > > > > charge of US $ 10/- each. On hearing from you. I

will

> > > > inform

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > mode of remittance. Blessings,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A.V.Pathi,

> > > > > > > > > > North Carolina, 27514, USA

> > > > > > > > > > 001-919-960- 3833

> > > > > > > > > > Please contact me in ID kountinya29@ )

> > > > > > > > > > All private readings are chargeable.Disclaim er

> > > > > > > > > > A.V.Pathi and his Astrology Team want to make it

> > > > absolutely

> > > > > > > clear

> > > > > > > > > that no discipline is absolutely perfect. Hence, any

> > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > you receive from us is not to be considered as a

> > > substitute

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > advice, program, or treatment that you would

normally

> > > > receive

> > > > > > > from a

> > > > > > > > > licensed professional such as a lawyer, doctor,

> > > > psychiatrist,

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > financial advisor. A.V.Pathi and his team provide no

> > > > > > guarantees,

> > > > > > > > > implied warranties, or assurances of any kind, and

will

> > > not

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > responsible for any interpretation made or use by

the

> > > > > recipient

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the information and data mentioned above. By the

Grace of

> > > > God

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > > only try to give our best and hope that our efforts

will

> > > > > > improve

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > life of our customers. ~~A.V.Pathi, Astrologer and

his

> > > > team.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > nsenecha <nsenecha@>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturday, November 1, 2008 10:36:46 PM

> > > > > > > > > > my health

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > happy diwali to all members.

> > > > > > > > > > respected gurujis,

> > > > > > > > > > pranam to u all.

> > > > > > > > > > i am having many health problems like acute

allergies,

> > > > > > > > > > hypertension, uterus fibroids [operation

> > > > > > recommended] ,fats.can

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > > over them? my DOB=15TH.APRIL1962, POB=MAWANA[ UP],

> > > > TOB=22:30

> > > > > > > [+/ -

> > > > > > > > > 20MINUTES] .

> > > > > > > > > > imp. events in life=marriage in feb.1985,son was

born in

> > > > > > > > > > jan.1986,right hand & elbow fracture in nov. 1988,

> > > > daughter

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > dec.1989. allergies since childhood[nose

> > > > > pollips].controlled

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 1984.

> > > > > > > > > > but from 8-10 years around again activated along

with

> > > > above

> > > > > > > > > mentioned

> > > > > > > > > > problems.

> > > > > > > > > > my husband is a scientist. his DOB=03JULY,1959;

> > > > > POB=PRATAPGARH

> > > > > > [

> > > > > > > > > RAJ.]

> > > > > > > > > > TOB=23:22.

> > > > > > > > > > KINDLY explain my horoscope & suggest me something

> > > > > > accordingly.

> > > > > > > > > > with regards

> > > > > > > > > > ns

> > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------

> > > > > > > > > > p.s. can i have some knowledge of astrology?

> > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------

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