Bhagwan Ram's birth details ! And FUND-A-MENTAL persons

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dear Kaul ji

Namaskar .

did u hav a real scientific brain or thinking ,if so How all this diffrnt sophisticated 100% correct Soft wares are giving degree of planets in varying degrees ,and the diffrnce is in minits ,dgree and signs .

JPL is showing venus even in taurus instead of aries in other SW .

so how we r going to help space reserch and missions ( as u said it ) ,with this fundamentaly incorrect or confusing datas .if u know basis of astronomy and science u will admit that a small fracion of error will creat a big diffrnce while projecting space crafts or missiles to a purticular object ,so like old saying goes if aim at moon u may end up in some tree top ??other wise aim at a wrong place to go to Moon .

 

sure I will advice sri Madhavan Nair of ISRO abt this and will surely recommend this programme ,

 

Oh with this progrmme u r making ur calender ?? and asking us to follow it ( since u ppl r after 100% and nothing less )

how u compramised it ??

 

Then u r purposefuly bashing old hindu rishis as they produced datas just by sitting in earth where as ppl like u depend on some one and errs miserably and proud of ur own mistakes .

hey man who claims knowing all sidhanthas -can u accept this challenge ??

 

given a data can u giv us horoscope without using the SW ???

 

i am asking u as u found that surya sidhantha is wrong

 

other part or content of ur post has nothing to do with my discussions

I prooved beyond doubt the existence of predictiv astrology frm vedic times /pre vedic times too and also prooved beyond doubt that India got her knowledge because she has proud son's like me .

 

Other than western funded aided ppl like u .FUND -A-mental persons

Otherwise can u explain why u r so adament abt bannishing of astrology frm hindus and why constantly and knowingly rejecting all finding and even trashing individuals exprnce ??

can u explain what is ur mission ??

Even i find when ever a new individual comes after me prooving all this things u will strt asking same questions which is pre framed to him too ,why this double standard and what is ur hidden agenda ??

Means u r basing on the ignorence of individuals to proov ur claims right ?/to win ur arguemnts .

 

And u r beutifully forgets that a astrologer do not need to know wheter astrology in vedas of upanishads or allied litterature ,but he has lot of other books and texts to learn and test and practise .Even u dont know sanskrit and same is the case of many or they dont know english who knows sanskrit .so u sitting in net to proov what .

It is like a 35 yr old man challenging for wrestling 90 yr old man or kids who dont even strted walking

one thing u prooved and i am happy that u r never for re surrection of vedic knowledge or its culture ,if so u will never interact for ur mission with many ignrent persons knowingly will fully deliberately .Rather u would work for teaching vedas among hindus ,here u urself is depending on others for translations .

 

why dont u go to kerala pundits who r best in sanskrit with all ur false claims ??

they will deskin u and parcel ur body to kashmere terrorists to take care of rest of ur body

u r running away frm discussion or mutilating its essence by twisting or asking diffrnt questions .

if u r sure abt it why simply dont tell the person who ever asked the question than countering with a repeated question

so u thinks telling a lie 1000 times may look like ur claims true is itnot ,the tactics of hitlers minister ??

U talking abt using some astronomy in muhurthas or shodasa /yagna /vedic rituals .But u cud never able to explain why a human being shud follow some thing which is not use full for him unless it is a custom so it is mandatory or it has got some benefits .

even in west church is facing this problem they cud not explain why some mandatory rituals r neccessary and now selling its properties to other organsiations as no attendance in church ,going by this rate Kerala has to produce next pope even .

any way i understand ur silence over my questions .because u will b caught on ur foot and get trashed

 

so i am withdrawing frm this useless debate which was against even principles of sastrartha debate ( even prohibits debate wth ppl of lower intelligence /who is not at par with u )

tail peice

=========

 

still No one cleared my doubts why kashmere got this fate ??is it some kind of curse of pitrus ??as they always make them look small in frnt of world for some bread crumbs and liv one day .

 

ps --my one mail on this subjuct was not showing on board in this group because they banned me without any reason ,sure reasons u can always find after banning also

 

, "maheswara.varma" <maheswara.varma wrote:>> Venus jumped signes in JPL> , "jyotirved" jyotirved@> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > Namaskar!> >> > A copy of post No. 2669 of Nov. 15, 2007 at HinduCalendar forum.> >> > Regards,> >> > AKK> >> > **** ***** ****** ******* ******> > ****> >> > Shri Sreenadhji,> >> > Namaskar!> >> >> >> > You have just wasted a lot of time of everybody and all it has proved> is an> > exercise in futility instead of the correct planetary position of> Bhagwan> > Ram! It has been a big let down for everybody!> >> >> >> > Your calculations are based on JHora and JHora is a software prepared> by a> > "Vedic astrologer"! As that "Vedic astrologer" claims to make correct> > predictions from JHora, you should have recalled my statement that I> have> > repeated a thousand times: "Vedic astrologers can make correct> predictions> > only from incorrect data", which means the accuracy of that software> was> > doubtful!> >> >> >> > As such, all the details provided by you in various forums for March> 14, 157> > BCE for 9-15 PM (LMT Ayodhya) on the basis of JHora are fundamentally> > incorrect!> >> >> >> > You could have at least checked the details of the sun and the moon,> besides> > tithi, nakshatra etc. from "Vishnu" program that I have prepared and> > verified the results before "displaying them for universal> exhibition".> >> >> >> > In any case, I am giving, at the end, planetary positions as per> following> > software:> >> > 1. Vishnu Program> >> > 2. JPL Interactive Horizon Ephemeris.> >> > 3. Swiss Ephemeris> >> > All these three programs are free and can be downloaded by anybody> from the> > respective sites.> >> >> >> > 4. To make doubly sure, I have also given the results as per VSOP87.> >> >> >> > Also included are the planetary positions as per JHora.> >> >> >> > I must put on record that JHora, like the "Vedic astrologers"> themselves, is> > a highly inaccurate software since neither is the Moon in Cancer (it> is in> > Taurus!) nor the Venus in Taurus (it is in Aries). Thus neither is the> tithi> > as Navmi (it is Shashthi!) nor the nakshatra as Punarvasu (it is> Mrigashra)> > at 9-15 pm LMT for Ayodhya on March 14, 157 BCE. There is a difference> of> > several degrees in the longitudes of other planets as well.> >> >> >> > As such, please stop all this hue and cry of having hit the bull's eye> about> > correct date and time of the birth chart of Bhagwan Rama as March 14,> 157> > BC, 9-15 PM !> >> > Regards.> >> > Avtar Krishen Kaul> >> >> >> > ****** ****** ****** **** **** **** ****> > **** ****> >> >> >> > VISHNU PROGRAM (Dt: 14, 1, -157 (i.e. 157 BC); ET = 15,45,0; Delta T => > 12163 seconds)> >> >> >> > Sun: 351-0-23; Moon 54-29-51; Rahu: 61-23-34; Tithi Panchami up to> 13-33;> > Nak = Rohini up to 18-53> >> >> >> > ******** ***** ****** *****> >> > JPL Horizon Interactive Ephemeris> >> > Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A.__(a-apparent)__DEC Cnst CT-UT ObsEcLon> > ObsEcLat> >> >> ************************************************************************\> ****> > ************> >> > Sun> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 23 27 01.17 -03 36 17.0 Psc 12161.065922> 351.0063133> > 0.0000340> >> >> >> > Moon> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 03 28 47.45 +18 38 08.8 Tau 12161.065922 54.4915556> > -0.4902773> >> >> >> > Mer> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 22 22 17.18 -12 47 47.0 Psc 12161.065922> 332.6975235> > -2.3259770> >> >> >> > Venus> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 01 43 00.52 +11 51 03.5 Tau 12161.065922 28.1626418> > 0.9743443> >> >> >> > Mars> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 19 52 09.33 -22 20 10.5 Cap 12161.065922> 295.7779512> > -1.1228396> >> >> >> > Jupiter> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 06 12 54.05 +24 19 06.0 Cnc 12161.065922 92.9389427> > 0.6362116> >> > Saturn> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 20 52 46.74 -19 03 41.4 Aqr 12161.065922> 310.3236169> > -1.2531484> >> > **** **** ****> > ***** *** ***> >> > SWISS EPHEMERIS> >> > Planet Positions from Swiss Ephemeris> >> >> >> > 14.3.-156 (157 B.C.) jul. 15:45:00 UT> >> > delta t: 12162.783368 sec jd (ET) = 1664152.297023> >> >> >> > Ecl. obl. 23°42'55.9839 23°42'51.0175 (true, mean)> >> > Nutation -0° 0'14.3330 0° 0' 4.9664 (dpsi, deps)> >> >> >> > ecl. long. ecl. lat. dist. speed> > house> >> > Sun 21 pi 0'25.9252 0° 0' 0.0651 1.004232337 0°58'38.5467> > 5.4479> >> > Moon 24 ta 30' 9.3752 -0°29'22.1116 0.002692591 11°53'56.2976> > 7.7389> >> > Mercury 2 pi 41'54.4017 -2°19'33.5310 1.219369742 1°42'42.5224> > 4.8739> >> > Venus 28 ar 9'48.8651 0°58'27.5253 1.183959312 1°10'33.5965> > 6.7998> >> > Mars 25 cp 46'44.3281 -1° 7'22.2152 1.712782352 0°45'25.2075> > 3.7236> >> > Jupiter 2 cn 56'22.3535 0°38'10.2382 5.025734823 0° 2'22.1085> > 9.0054> >> > Saturn 10 aq 19'28.2380 -1°15'11.2955 10.405460233 0° 6'10.3937> > 4.1727> >> > Uranus 10 ta 38'35.1712 -0°15'35.6556 19.946191844 0° 2'32.6047> > 7.2627> >> > Neptune 4 sa 58'44.5360 1°24'15.3085 29.967116880 -0° 0' 8.8151> > 2.0860> >> > Pluto 4 pi 8'27.4361 -16° 8'44.7121 46.582511601 0° 1'26.6554> > 5.0163> >> > mean Node 1 ge 23'19.9287 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002569555 -0° 3'10.6710> > 7.9734> >> > true Node 0 ge 1'28.0071 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002683585 -0° 0'35.6759> > 7.9276> >> >> >> > AC : 3 sc 10' 0"> >> > MC : 5 le 1'41"> >> >> >> > VSOP87> >> >> >> >> >> > DeltaT = +11198s; ET = 6:51:38 PM Mar 14 0157 BC; ST = 06:08:01> >> >> >> > Point Longitude Travel Latitude> > Rt.Asc. Decl. Azi(0°N) Alti.> >> > Sun 20°Pi59´44´´ +00°59´ +00°00´ 351°45´> > -03°37´ 290°53´ -41°45´> >> > Mon 24°Ta34´01´´ +11°54´ -00°29´ 052°16´> > +18°39´ 280°53´ +21°08´> >> > Mer 02°Pi41 +01°43´ -02°20´> > 335°33´ -12°48´ 292°28´ -60°11´> >> > Ven 28°Ar09 +01°11´ +00°58´ 025°44´> > +11°51´ 285°53´ -04°52´> >> > Mar 25°Cp46 +00°45´ -01°07´> > 298°02´ -22°20´ 064°30´ -80°21´> >> > Jup 02°Cn56 +00°02´ +00°38´ 093°14´> > +24°19´ 273°07´ +59°07´> >> > Sat 10°Aq19 +00°06´ -01°15´> > 313°12´ -19°04´ 324°29´ -80°38´> >> > ´ Nod 00°Ge06 R -00°01´ +00°00´ 057°52´> > +20°24´ 280°34´ +26°41´> >> >> >> > *** **** ***** ****** *** ***> > **** **** ****** *******> >> > J HORA> >> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> >> >> >> > Lagna 5 Sc 42' 49.86" Anu 1 Sc Le> >> > Sun - BK 23 Pi 55' 51.04" Reva 3 Pi Aq> >> > Moon - DK 1 Cn 00' 29.46" Puna 4 Cn Cn> >> > Mars - AmK 28 Cp 02' 52.78" Dhan 2 Cp Vi> >> > Mercury - PiK 7 Pi 56' 37.91" UBha 2 Pi Vi> >> > Jupiter - PK 3 Cn 04' 22.20" Puna 4 Cn Cn> >> > Venus - GK 1 Ta 40' 40.83" Krit 2 Ta Cp> >> > Saturn - MK 10 Aq 38' 03.76" Sata 2 Aq Cp> >> > Rahu - AK 1 Ge 13' 50.34" Mrig 3 Ge Li> >> > Ketu 1 Sg 13' 50.34" Mool 1 Sg Ar> >> > Uranus 10 Ta 46' 38.11" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> >> > Neptune ® 4 Sg 58' 04.63" Mool 2 Sg Ta> >> > Pluto 4 Pi 12' 45.84" UBha 1 Pi Le> >> > **** ***** ****> > **** ******> >>

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Re: Bhagwan Ram's birth details ! And FUND-A-MENTAL persons

 

 

 

dear Kaul ji

 

Namaskar .

 

did u hav a real scientific brain or thinking ,if so How all this

diffrnt sophisticated 100% correct Soft wares are giving degree of

planets in varying degrees ,and the diffrnce is in minits ,dgree and

signs .

 

JPL is showing venus even in taurus instead of aries in other SW .

 

so how we r going to help space reserch and missions ( as u said it )

,with this fundamentaly incorrect or confusing datas .if u know basis of

astronomy and science u will admit that a small fracion of error will

creat a big diffrnce while projecting space crafts or missiles to a

purticular object ,so like old saying goes if aim at moon u may end up

in some tree top ??other wise aim at a wrong place to go to Moon .( more

advisable )

 

 

 

sure I will advice sri Madhavan Nair of ISRO abt this and will surely

recommend this programme ,(chandrayan -2 )

 

 

 

Oh with this progrmme u r making ur calender ?? and asking us to follow

it ( since u ppl r after 100% and nothing less )

 

how u compramised it ??

 

 

 

Then u r purposefuly bashing old hindu rishis as they produced datas

just by sitting in earth where as ppl like u depend on some one and errs

miserably and proud of ur own mistakes .

 

 

 

hey man who claims knows all sidhanthas -can u accept this challenge ??

 

 

 

given a data can u giv us horoscope without using the SW ???

 

 

 

i am asking u as u found that surya sidhantha is wrong

 

 

 

other part or content of ur post has nothing to do with my discussions .

 

 

 

I prooved beyond doubt the existence of predictiv astrology frm vedic

times /pre vedic times too and also prooved beyond doubt that India got

her knowledge because she has proud son's like me .Not frm greece or

other cultures also not frm mlechas like u .

 

 

 

Other than western funded aided ppl like u .FUND -A-mental persons

 

 

 

Otherwise can u explain why u r so adament abt bannishing of astrology

frm hindus and why constantly and knowingly rejecting all finding and

even trashing individuals exprnce ??

 

 

 

can u reveal what is ur real mission ??

 

 

 

Even i find when ever a new individual comes after me prooving all this

things u will strt asking same questions which is pre framed to him too

,why this double standard and what is ur hidden agenda ??

 

 

 

Means u r basing on the ignorence of individuals to proov ur claims

right ?/to win ur arguemnts .

 

 

 

And u r beutifully forgets that a astrologer do not need to know wheter

astrology in vedas of upanishads or allied litterature ,but he has lot

of other books and texts to learn and test and practise .Even u dont

know sanskrit and same is the case of many or they dont know english who

knows sanskrit .so u sitting in net to proov what .

 

 

 

It is like a 35 yr old man challenging for wrestling 90 yr old man or

kids who dont even strted walking

 

 

 

one thing u prooved and i am happy that u r never for re surrection of

vedic knowledge or its culture ,if so u will never interact for ur

mission with many ignrent persons knowingly will fully deliberately

..Rather u would work for teaching vedas among hindus ,here u urself is

depending on others for translations .

 

 

 

why dont u go to kerala pundits who r best in sanskrit with all ur false

claims ??

 

they will deskin u live and parcel ur body to kashmere terrorists to

take care of rest of ur body .

 

 

 

u r running away frm discussion or mutilating its essence by twisting or

asking diffrnt questions .

 

 

 

if u r sure abt it why simply dont tell the person who ever asked the

question than countering with a repeated question .

 

 

 

so u thinks telling a lie 1000 times may look like ur claims true is

itnot ,the tactics of hitler's minister ??

 

 

 

U talking abt using some astronomy in muhurthas or shodasa /yagna /vedic

rituals .But u cud never able to explain why a human being shud follow

some thing which is not use full for him unless it is a custom so it is

mandatory or it has got some benefits .

 

 

 

even in west church is facing this problem they cud not explain why some

mandatory rituals r neccessary and now selling its properties to other

organsiations as no attendance in church ,going by this rate Kerala has

to produce next pope even .

 

 

 

any way i understand ur silence over my questions for last one week

..because u will b caught on ur foot and get trashed

 

 

 

so i am withdrawing frm this useless debate which was against even

principles of sastrartha debate ( even prohibits debate wth ppl of

lower intelligence /who is not at par with u )

 

tail peice

 

=========

 

 

 

still No one cleared my doubts why kashmere got this fate ??is it some

kind of curse of pitrus ??as they always make them look small in frnt of

world for some bread crumbs and liv one day .

 

 

 

ps --my one mail on this subjuct was not showing on board in this group

because they banned me without any reason ,sure reasons u can always

find after banning also

 

 

 

 

, " maheswara.varma "

<maheswara.varma wrote:

>

> Venus jumped signes in JPL

> , " jyotirved " jyotirved@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > A copy of post No. 2669 of Nov. 15, 2007 at HinduCalendar forum.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > AKK

> >

> > **** ***** ****** ******* ******

> > ****

> >

> > Shri Sreenadhji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> >

> >

> > You have just wasted a lot of time of everybody and all it has

proved

> is an

> > exercise in futility instead of the correct planetary position of

> Bhagwan

> > Ram! It has been a big let down for everybody!

> >

> >

> >

> > Your calculations are based on JHora and JHora is a software

prepared

> by a

> > " Vedic astrologer " ! As that " Vedic astrologer " claims to make

correct

> > predictions from JHora, you should have recalled my statement that I

> have

> > repeated a thousand times: " Vedic astrologers can make correct

> predictions

> > only from incorrect data " , which means the accuracy of that software

> was

> > doubtful!

> >

> >

> >

> > As such, all the details provided by you in various forums for March

> 14, 157

> > BCE for 9-15 PM (LMT Ayodhya) on the basis of JHora are

fundamentally

> > incorrect!

> >

> >

> >

> > You could have at least checked the details of the sun and the moon,

> besides

> > tithi, nakshatra etc. from " Vishnu " program that I have prepared and

> > verified the results before " displaying them for universal

> exhibition " .

> >

> >

> >

> > In any case, I am giving, at the end, planetary positions as per

> following

> > software:

> >

> > 1. Vishnu Program

> >

> > 2. JPL Interactive Horizon Ephemeris.

> >

> > 3. Swiss Ephemeris

> >

> > All these three programs are free and can be downloaded by anybody

> from the

> > respective sites.

> >

> >

> >

> > 4. To make doubly sure, I have also given the results as per VSOP87.

> >

> >

> >

> > Also included are the planetary positions as per JHora.

> >

> >

> >

> > I must put on record that JHora, like the " Vedic astrologers "

> themselves, is

> > a highly inaccurate software since neither is the Moon in Cancer (it

> is in

> > Taurus!) nor the Venus in Taurus (it is in Aries). Thus neither is

the

> tithi

> > as Navmi (it is Shashthi!) nor the nakshatra as Punarvasu (it is

> Mrigashra)

> > at 9-15 pm LMT for Ayodhya on March 14, 157 BCE. There is a

difference

> of

> > several degrees in the longitudes of other planets as well.

> >

> >

> >

> > As such, please stop all this hue and cry of having hit the bull's

eye

> about

> > correct date and time of the birth chart of Bhagwan Rama as March

14,

> 157

> > BC, 9-15 PM !

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> >

> >

> >

> > ****** ****** ****** **** **** **** ****

> > **** ****

> >

> >

> >

> > VISHNU PROGRAM (Dt: 14, 1, -157 (i.e. 157 BC); ET = 15,45,0; Delta T

=

> > 12163 seconds)

> >

> >

> >

> > Sun: 351-0-23; Moon 54-29-51; Rahu: 61-23-34; Tithi Panchami up to

> 13-33;

> > Nak = Rohini up to 18-53

> >

> >

> >

> > ******** ***** ****** *****

> >

> > JPL Horizon Interactive Ephemeris

> >

> > Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A.__(a-apparent)__DEC Cnst CT-UT ObsEcLon

> > ObsEcLat

> >

> >

>

************************************************************************\

\

> ****

> > ************

> >

> > Sun

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 23 27 01.17 -03 36 17.0 Psc 12161.065922

> 351.0063133

> > 0.0000340

> >

> >

> >

> > Moon

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 03 28 47.45 +18 38 08.8 Tau 12161.065922

54.4915556

> > -0.4902773

> >

> >

> >

> > Mer

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 22 22 17.18 -12 47 47.0 Psc 12161.065922

> 332.6975235

> > -2.3259770

> >

> >

> >

> > Venus

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 01 43 00.52 +11 51 03.5 Tau 12161.065922

28.1626418

> > 0.9743443

> >

> >

> >

> > Mars

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 19 52 09.33 -22 20 10.5 Cap 12161.065922

> 295.7779512

> > -1.1228396

> >

> >

> >

> > Jupiter

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 06 12 54.05 +24 19 06.0 Cnc 12161.065922

92.9389427

> > 0.6362116

> >

> > Saturn

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 20 52 46.74 -19 03 41.4 Aqr 12161.065922

> 310.3236169

> > -1.2531484

> >

> > **** **** ****

> > ***** *** ***

> >

> > SWISS EPHEMERIS

> >

> > Planet Positions from Swiss Ephemeris

> >

> >

> >

> > 14.3.-156 (157 B.C.) jul. 15:45:00 UT

> >

> > delta t: 12162.783368 sec jd (ET) = 1664152.297023

> >

> >

> >

> > Ecl. obl. 23°42'55.9839 23°42'51.0175 (true, mean)

> >

> > Nutation -0° 0'14.3330 0° 0' 4.9664 (dpsi, deps)

> >

> >

> >

> > ecl. long. ecl. lat. dist. speed

> > house

> >

> > Sun 21 pi 0'25.9252 0° 0' 0.0651 1.004232337 0°58'38.5467

> > 5.4479

> >

> > Moon 24 ta 30' 9.3752 -0°29'22.1116 0.002692591 11°53'56.2976

> > 7.7389

> >

> > Mercury 2 pi 41'54.4017 -2°19'33.5310 1.219369742 1°42'42.5224

> > 4.8739

> >

> > Venus 28 ar 9'48.8651 0°58'27.5253 1.183959312 1°10'33.5965

> > 6.7998

> >

> > Mars 25 cp 46'44.3281 -1° 7'22.2152 1.712782352 0°45'25.2075

> > 3.7236

> >

> > Jupiter 2 cn 56'22.3535 0°38'10.2382 5.025734823 0° 2'22.1085

> > 9.0054

> >

> > Saturn 10 aq 19'28.2380 -1°15'11.2955 10.405460233 0°

6'10.3937

> > 4.1727

> >

> > Uranus 10 ta 38'35.1712 -0°15'35.6556 19.946191844 0°

2'32.6047

> > 7.2627

> >

> > Neptune 4 sa 58'44.5360 1°24'15.3085 29.967116880 -0° 0'

8.8151

> > 2.0860

> >

> > Pluto 4 pi 8'27.4361 -16° 8'44.7121 46.582511601 0° 1'26.6554

> > 5.0163

> >

> > mean Node 1 ge 23'19.9287 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002569555 -0°

3'10.6710

> > 7.9734

> >

> > true Node 0 ge 1'28.0071 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002683585 -0°

0'35.6759

> > 7.9276

> >

> >

> >

> > AC : 3 sc 10' 0 "

> >

> > MC : 5 le 1'41 "

> >

> >

> >

> > VSOP87

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > DeltaT = +11198s; ET = 6:51:38 PM Mar 14 0157 BC; ST = 06:08:01

> >

> >

> >

> > Point Longitude Travel Latitude

> > Rt.Asc. Decl. Azi(0°N) Alti.

> >

> > Sun 20°Pi59´44´´ +00°59´ +00°00´ 351°45´

> > -03°37´ 290°53´ -41°45´

> >

> > Mon 24°Ta34´01´´ +11°54´ -00°29´ 052°16´

> > +18°39´ 280°53´ +21°08´

> >

> > Mer 02°Pi41 +01°43´ -02°20´

> > 335°33´ -12°48´ 292°28´ -60°11´

> >

> > Ven 28°Ar09 +01°11´ +00°58´ 025°44´

> > +11°51´ 285°53´ -04°52´

> >

> > Mar 25°Cp46 +00°45´ -01°07´

> > 298°02´ -22°20´ 064°30´ -80°21´

> >

> > Jup 02°Cn56 +00°02´ +00°38´ 093°14´

> > +24°19´ 273°07´ +59°07´

> >

> > Sat 10°Aq19 +00°06´ -01°15´

> > 313°12´ -19°04´ 324°29´ -80°38´

> >

> > ´ Nod 00°Ge06 R -00°01´ +00°00´ 057°52´

> > +20°24´ 280°34´ +26°41´

> >

> >

> >

> > *** **** ***** ****** *** ***

> > **** **** ****** *******

> >

> > J HORA

> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> >

> >

> >

> > Lagna 5 Sc 42' 49.86 " Anu 1 Sc Le

> >

> > Sun - BK 23 Pi 55' 51.04 " Reva 3 Pi Aq

> >

> > Moon - DK 1 Cn 00' 29.46 " Puna 4 Cn Cn

> >

> > Mars - AmK 28 Cp 02' 52.78 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

> >

> > Mercury - PiK 7 Pi 56' 37.91 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> >

> > Jupiter - PK 3 Cn 04' 22.20 " Puna 4 Cn Cn

> >

> > Venus - GK 1 Ta 40' 40.83 " Krit 2 Ta Cp

> >

> > Saturn - MK 10 Aq 38' 03.76 " Sata 2 Aq Cp

> >

> > Rahu - AK 1 Ge 13' 50.34 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

> >

> > Ketu 1 Sg 13' 50.34 " Mool 1 Sg Ar

> >

> > Uranus 10 Ta 46' 38.11 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> >

> > Neptune ® 4 Sg 58' 04.63 " Mool 2 Sg Ta

> >

> > Pluto 4 Pi 12' 45.84 " UBha 1 Pi Le

> >

> > **** ***** ****

> > **** ******

> >

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Re: Bhagwan Ram's birth details ! And FUND-A-MENTAL persons

 

 

 

dear Kaul ji

 

Namaskar .

 

did u hav a real scientific brain or thinking ,if so How all this

diffrnt sophisticated 100% correct Soft wares are giving degree of

planets in varying degrees ,and the diffrnce is in minits ,dgree and

signs .

 

JPL is showing venus even in taurus instead of aries in other SW .

 

so how we r going to help space reserch and missions ( as u said it )

,with this fundamentaly incorrect or confusing datas .if u know basis of

astronomy and science u will admit that a small fracion of error will

creat a big diffrnce while projecting space crafts or missiles to a

purticular object ,so like old saying goes if aim at moon u may end up

in some tree top ??other wise aim at a wrong place to go to Moon .

 

 

 

sure I will advice sri Madhavan Nair of ISRO abt this and will surely

recommend this programme ,

 

 

 

Oh with this progrmme u r making ur calender ?? and asking us to follow

it ( since u ppl r after 100% and nothing less )

 

how u compramised it ??

 

 

 

Then u r purposefuly bashing old hindu rishis as they produced datas

just by sitting in earth where as ppl like u depend on some one and errs

miserably and proud of ur own mistakes .

 

hey man who claims knowing all sidhanthas -can u accept this challenge

??

 

 

 

given a data can u giv us horoscope without using the SW ???

 

 

 

i am asking u as u found that surya sidhantha is wrong

 

 

 

other part or content of ur post has nothing to do with my discussions

 

I prooved beyond doubt the existence of predictiv astrology frm vedic

times /pre vedic times too and also prooved beyond doubt that India got

her knowledge because she has proud son's like me .

 

 

 

Other than western funded aided ppl like u .FUND -A-mental persons

 

Otherwise can u explain why u r so adament abt bannishing of astrology

frm hindus and why constantly and knowingly rejecting all finding and

even trashing individuals exprnce ??

 

can u explain what is ur mission ??

 

Even i find when ever a new individual comes after me prooving all this

things u will strt asking same questions which is pre framed to him too

,why this double standard and what is ur hidden agenda ??

 

Means u r basing on the ignorence of individuals to proov ur claims

right ?/to win ur arguemnts .

 

 

 

And u r beutifully forgets that a astrologer do not need to know wheter

astrology in vedas of upanishads or allied litterature ,but he has lot

of other books and texts to learn and test and practise .Even u dont

know sanskrit and same is the case of many or they dont know english who

knows sanskrit .so u sitting in net to proov what .

 

It is like a 35 yr old man challenging for wrestling 90 yr old man or

kids who dont even strted walking

 

one thing u prooved and i am happy that u r never for re surrection of

vedic knowledge or its culture ,if so u will never interact for ur

mission with many ignrent persons knowingly will fully deliberately

..Rather u would work for teaching vedas among hindus ,here u urself is

depending on others for translations .

 

 

 

why dont u go to kerala pundits who r best in sanskrit with all ur false

claims ??

 

they will deskin u and parcel ur body to kashmere terrorists to take

care of rest of ur body

 

u r running away frm discussion or mutilating its essence by twisting or

asking diffrnt questions .

 

if u r sure abt it why simply dont tell the person who ever asked the

question than countering with a repeated question

 

so u thinks telling a lie 1000 times may look like ur claims true is

itnot ,the tactics of hitlers minister ??

 

U talking abt using some astronomy in muhurthas or shodasa /yagna /vedic

rituals .But u cud never able to explain why a human being shud follow

some thing which is not use full for him unless it is a custom so it is

mandatory or it has got some benefits .

 

even in west church is facing this problem they cud not explain why some

mandatory rituals r neccessary and now selling its properties to other

organsiations as no attendance in church ,going by this rate Kerala has

to produce next pope even .

 

any way i understand ur silence over my questions .because u will b

caught on ur foot and get trashed

 

 

 

so i am withdrawing frm this useless debate which was against even

principles of sastrartha debate ( even prohibits debate wth ppl of

lower intelligence /who is not at par with u )

 

tail peice

 

=========

 

 

 

still No one cleared my doubts why kashmere got this fate ??is it some

kind of curse of pitrus ??as they always make them look small in frnt of

world for some bread crumbs and liv one day .

 

 

 

ps --my one mail on this subjuct was not showing on board in this group

because they banned me without any reason ,sure reasons u can always

find after banning also

 

 

 

 

, " maheswara.varma "

<maheswara.varma wrote:

>

> Venus jumped signes in JPL

> , " jyotirved " jyotirved@

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > A copy of post No. 2669 of Nov. 15, 2007 at HinduCalendar forum.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > AKK

> >

> > **** ***** ****** ******* ******

> > ****

> >

> > Shri Sreenadhji,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> >

> >

> > You have just wasted a lot of time of everybody and all it has

proved

> is an

> > exercise in futility instead of the correct planetary position of

> Bhagwan

> > Ram! It has been a big let down for everybody!

> >

> >

> >

> > Your calculations are based on JHora and JHora is a software

prepared

> by a

> > " Vedic astrologer " ! As that " Vedic astrologer " claims to make

correct

> > predictions from JHora, you should have recalled my statement that I

> have

> > repeated a thousand times: " Vedic astrologers can make correct

> predictions

> > only from incorrect data " , which means the accuracy of that software

> was

> > doubtful!

> >

> >

> >

> > As such, all the details provided by you in various forums for March

> 14, 157

> > BCE for 9-15 PM (LMT Ayodhya) on the basis of JHora are

fundamentally

> > incorrect!

> >

> >

> >

> > You could have at least checked the details of the sun and the moon,

> besides

> > tithi, nakshatra etc. from " Vishnu " program that I have prepared and

> > verified the results before " displaying them for universal

> exhibition " .

> >

> >

> >

> > In any case, I am giving, at the end, planetary positions as per

> following

> > software:

> >

> > 1. Vishnu Program

> >

> > 2. JPL Interactive Horizon Ephemeris.

> >

> > 3. Swiss Ephemeris

> >

> > All these three programs are free and can be downloaded by anybody

> from the

> > respective sites.

> >

> >

> >

> > 4. To make doubly sure, I have also given the results as per VSOP87.

> >

> >

> >

> > Also included are the planetary positions as per JHora.

> >

> >

> >

> > I must put on record that JHora, like the " Vedic astrologers "

> themselves, is

> > a highly inaccurate software since neither is the Moon in Cancer (it

> is in

> > Taurus!) nor the Venus in Taurus (it is in Aries). Thus neither is

the

> tithi

> > as Navmi (it is Shashthi!) nor the nakshatra as Punarvasu (it is

> Mrigashra)

> > at 9-15 pm LMT for Ayodhya on March 14, 157 BCE. There is a

difference

> of

> > several degrees in the longitudes of other planets as well.

> >

> >

> >

> > As such, please stop all this hue and cry of having hit the bull's

eye

> about

> > correct date and time of the birth chart of Bhagwan Rama as March

14,

> 157

> > BC, 9-15 PM !

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> >

> >

> >

> > ****** ****** ****** **** **** **** ****

> > **** ****

> >

> >

> >

> > VISHNU PROGRAM (Dt: 14, 1, -157 (i.e. 157 BC); ET = 15,45,0; Delta T

=

> > 12163 seconds)

> >

> >

> >

> > Sun: 351-0-23; Moon 54-29-51; Rahu: 61-23-34; Tithi Panchami up to

> 13-33;

> > Nak = Rohini up to 18-53

> >

> >

> >

> > ******** ***** ****** *****

> >

> > JPL Horizon Interactive Ephemeris

> >

> > Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A.__(a-apparent)__DEC Cnst CT-UT ObsEcLon

> > ObsEcLat

> >

> >

>

************************************************************************\

\

> ****

> > ************

> >

> > Sun

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 23 27 01.17 -03 36 17.0 Psc 12161.065922

> 351.0063133

> > 0.0000340

> >

> >

> >

> > Moon

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 03 28 47.45 +18 38 08.8 Tau 12161.065922

54.4915556

> > -0.4902773

> >

> >

> >

> > Mer

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 22 22 17.18 -12 47 47.0 Psc 12161.065922

> 332.6975235

> > -2.3259770

> >

> >

> >

> > Venus

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 01 43 00.52 +11 51 03.5 Tau 12161.065922

28.1626418

> > 0.9743443

> >

> >

> >

> > Mars

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 19 52 09.33 -22 20 10.5 Cap 12161.065922

> 295.7779512

> > -1.1228396

> >

> >

> >

> > Jupiter

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 06 12 54.05 +24 19 06.0 Cnc 12161.065922

92.9389427

> > 0.6362116

> >

> > Saturn

> >

> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 20 52 46.74 -19 03 41.4 Aqr 12161.065922

> 310.3236169

> > -1.2531484

> >

> > **** **** ****

> > ***** *** ***

> >

> > SWISS EPHEMERIS

> >

> > Planet Positions from Swiss Ephemeris

> >

> >

> >

> > 14.3.-156 (157 B.C.) jul. 15:45:00 UT

> >

> > delta t: 12162.783368 sec jd (ET) = 1664152.297023

> >

> >

> >

> > Ecl. obl. 23°42'55.9839 23°42'51.0175 (true, mean)

> >

> > Nutation -0° 0'14.3330 0° 0' 4.9664 (dpsi, deps)

> >

> >

> >

> > ecl. long. ecl. lat. dist. speed

> > house

> >

> > Sun 21 pi 0'25.9252 0° 0' 0.0651 1.004232337 0°58'38.5467

> > 5.4479

> >

> > Moon 24 ta 30' 9.3752 -0°29'22.1116 0.002692591 11°53'56.2976

> > 7.7389

> >

> > Mercury 2 pi 41'54.4017 -2°19'33.5310 1.219369742 1°42'42.5224

> > 4.8739

> >

> > Venus 28 ar 9'48.8651 0°58'27.5253 1.183959312 1°10'33.5965

> > 6.7998

> >

> > Mars 25 cp 46'44.3281 -1° 7'22.2152 1.712782352 0°45'25.2075

> > 3.7236

> >

> > Jupiter 2 cn 56'22.3535 0°38'10.2382 5.025734823 0° 2'22.1085

> > 9.0054

> >

> > Saturn 10 aq 19'28.2380 -1°15'11.2955 10.405460233 0°

6'10.3937

> > 4.1727

> >

> > Uranus 10 ta 38'35.1712 -0°15'35.6556 19.946191844 0°

2'32.6047

> > 7.2627

> >

> > Neptune 4 sa 58'44.5360 1°24'15.3085 29.967116880 -0° 0'

8.8151

> > 2.0860

> >

> > Pluto 4 pi 8'27.4361 -16° 8'44.7121 46.582511601 0° 1'26.6554

> > 5.0163

> >

> > mean Node 1 ge 23'19.9287 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002569555 -0°

3'10.6710

> > 7.9734

> >

> > true Node 0 ge 1'28.0071 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002683585 -0°

0'35.6759

> > 7.9276

> >

> >

> >

> > AC : 3 sc 10' 0 "

> >

> > MC : 5 le 1'41 "

> >

> >

> >

> > VSOP87

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > DeltaT = +11198s; ET = 6:51:38 PM Mar 14 0157 BC; ST = 06:08:01

> >

> >

> >

> > Point Longitude Travel Latitude

> > Rt.Asc. Decl. Azi(0°N) Alti.

> >

> > Sun 20°Pi59´44´´ +00°59´ +00°00´ 351°45´

> > -03°37´ 290°53´ -41°45´

> >

> > Mon 24°Ta34´01´´ +11°54´ -00°29´ 052°16´

> > +18°39´ 280°53´ +21°08´

> >

> > Mer 02°Pi41 +01°43´ -02°20´

> > 335°33´ -12°48´ 292°28´ -60°11´

> >

> > Ven 28°Ar09 +01°11´ +00°58´ 025°44´

> > +11°51´ 285°53´ -04°52´

> >

> > Mar 25°Cp46 +00°45´ -01°07´

> > 298°02´ -22°20´ 064°30´ -80°21´

> >

> > Jup 02°Cn56 +00°02´ +00°38´ 093°14´

> > +24°19´ 273°07´ +59°07´

> >

> > Sat 10°Aq19 +00°06´ -01°15´

> > 313°12´ -19°04´ 324°29´ -80°38´

> >

> > ´ Nod 00°Ge06 R -00°01´ +00°00´ 057°52´

> > +20°24´ 280°34´ +26°41´

> >

> >

> >

> > *** **** ***** ****** *** ***

> > **** **** ****** *******

> >

> > J HORA

> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> >

> >

> >

> > Lagna 5 Sc 42' 49.86 " Anu 1 Sc Le

> >

> > Sun - BK 23 Pi 55' 51.04 " Reva 3 Pi Aq

> >

> > Moon - DK 1 Cn 00' 29.46 " Puna 4 Cn Cn

> >

> > Mars - AmK 28 Cp 02' 52.78 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

> >

> > Mercury - PiK 7 Pi 56' 37.91 " UBha 2 Pi Vi

> >

> > Jupiter - PK 3 Cn 04' 22.20 " Puna 4 Cn Cn

> >

> > Venus - GK 1 Ta 40' 40.83 " Krit 2 Ta Cp

> >

> > Saturn - MK 10 Aq 38' 03.76 " Sata 2 Aq Cp

> >

> > Rahu - AK 1 Ge 13' 50.34 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

> >

> > Ketu 1 Sg 13' 50.34 " Mool 1 Sg Ar

> >

> > Uranus 10 Ta 46' 38.11 " Rohi 1 Ta Ar

> >

> > Neptune ® 4 Sg 58' 04.63 " Mool 2 Sg Ta

> >

> > Pluto 4 Pi 12' 45.84 " UBha 1 Pi Le

> >

> > **** ***** ****

> > **** ******

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear Kaul ji

Namaskar .

did u hav a real scientific brain or thinking ,if so How all this diffrnt sophisticated 100% correct Soft wares are giving degree of planets in varying degrees ,and the diffrnce is in minits ,dgree and signs .

JPL is showing venus even in taurus instead of aries in other SW .

so how we r going to help space reserch and missions ( as u said it ) ,with this fundamentaly incorrect or confusing datas .if u know basis of astronomy and science u will admit that a small fracion of error will creat a big diffrnce while projecting space crafts or missiles to a purticular object ,so like old saying goes if aim at moon u may end up in some tree top ??other wise aim at a wrong place to go to Moon .

 

sure I will advice sri Madhavan Nair of ISRO abt this and will surely recommend this programme ,

 

Oh with this progrmme u r making ur calender ?? and asking us to follow it ( since u ppl r after 100% and nothing less )

how u compramised it ??

 

Then u r purposefuly bashing old hindu rishis as they produced datas just by sitting in earth where as ppl like u depend on some one and errs miserably and proud of ur own mistakes .

hey man who claims knowing all sidhanthas -can u accept this challenge ??

 

given a data can u giv us horoscope without using the SW ???

 

i am asking u as u found that surya sidhantha is wrong

 

other part or content of ur post has nothing to do with my discussions

I prooved beyond doubt the existence of predictiv astrology frm vedic times /pre vedic times too and also prooved beyond doubt that India got her knowledge because she has proud son's like me .

 

Other than western funded aided ppl like u .FUND -A-mental persons

Otherwise can u explain why u r so adament abt bannishing of astrology frm hindus and why constantly and knowingly rejecting all finding and even trashing individuals exprnce ??

can u explain what is ur mission ??

Even i find when ever a new individual comes after me prooving all this things u will strt asking same questions which is pre framed to him too ,why this double standard and what is ur hidden agenda ??

Means u r basing on the ignorence of individuals to proov ur claims right ?/to win ur arguemnts .

 

And u r beutifully forgets that a astrologer do not need to know wheter astrology in vedas of upanishads or allied litterature ,but he has lot of other books and texts to learn and test and practise .Even u dont know sanskrit and same is the case of many or they dont know english who knows sanskrit .so u sitting in net to proov what .

It is like a 35 yr old man challenging for wrestling 90 yr old man or kids who dont even strted walking

one thing u prooved and i am happy that u r never for re surrection of vedic knowledge or its culture ,if so u will never interact for ur mission with many ignrent persons knowingly will fully deliberately .Rather u would work for teaching vedas among hindus ,here u urself is depending on others for translations .

 

why dont u go to kerala pundits who r best in sanskrit with all ur false claims ??

they will deskin u and parcel ur body to kashmere terrorists to take care of rest of ur body

u r running away frm discussion or mutilating its essence by twisting or asking diffrnt questions .

if u r sure abt it why simply dont tell the person who ever asked the question than countering with a repeated question

so u thinks telling a lie 1000 times may look like ur claims true is itnot ,the tactics of hitlers minister ??

U talking abt using some astronomy in muhurthas or shodasa /yagna /vedic rituals .But u cud never able to explain why a human being shud follow some thing which is not use full for him unless it is a custom so it is mandatory or it has got some benefits .

even in west church is facing this problem they cud not explain why some mandatory rituals r neccessary and now selling its properties to other organsiations as no attendance in church ,going by this rate Kerala has to produce next pope even .

any way i understand ur silence over my questions .because u will b caught on ur foot and get trashed

 

so i am withdrawing frm this useless debate which was against even principles of sastrartha debate ( even prohibits debate wth ppl of lower intelligence /who is not at par with u )

tail peice

=========

 

still No one cleared my doubts why kashmere got this fate ??is it some kind of curse of pitrus ??as they always make them look small in frnt of world for some bread crumbs and liv one day .

 

ps --my one mail on this subjuct was not showing on board in this group because they banned me without any reason ,sure reasons u can always find after banning also

 

, "maheswara.varma" <maheswara.varma wrote:>> Venus jumped signes in JPL> , "jyotirved" jyotirved@> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > Namaskar!> >> > A copy of post No. 2669 of Nov. 15, 2007 at HinduCalendar forum.> >> > Regards,> >> > AKK> >> > **** ***** ****** ******* ******> > ****> >> > Shri Sreenadhji,> >> > Namaskar!> >> >> >> > You have just wasted a lot of time of everybody and all it has proved> is an> > exercise in futility instead of the correct planetary position of> Bhagwan> > Ram! It has been a big let down for everybody!> >> >> >> > Your calculations are based on JHora and JHora is a software prepared> by a> > "Vedic astrologer"! As that "Vedic astrologer" claims to make correct> > predictions from JHora, you should have recalled my statement that I> have> > repeated a thousand times: "Vedic astrologers can make correct> predictions> > only from incorrect data", which means the accuracy of that software> was> > doubtful!> >> >> >> > As such, all the details provided by you in various forums for March> 14, 157> > BCE for 9-15 PM (LMT Ayodhya) on the basis of JHora are fundamentally> > incorrect!> >> >> >> > You could have at least checked the details of the sun and the moon,> besides> > tithi, nakshatra etc. from "Vishnu" program that I have prepared and> > verified the results before "displaying them for universal> exhibition".> >> >> >> > In any case, I am giving, at the end, planetary positions as per> following> > software:> >> > 1. Vishnu Program> >> > 2. JPL Interactive Horizon Ephemeris.> >> > 3. Swiss Ephemeris> >> > All these three programs are free and can be downloaded by anybody> from the> > respective sites.> >> >> >> > 4. To make doubly sure, I have also given the results as per VSOP87.> >> >> >> > Also included are the planetary positions as per JHora.> >> >> >> > I must put on record that JHora, like the "Vedic astrologers"> themselves, is> > a highly inaccurate software since neither is the Moon in Cancer (it> is in> > Taurus!) nor the Venus in Taurus (it is in Aries). Thus neither is the> tithi> > as Navmi (it is Shashthi!) nor the nakshatra as Punarvasu (it is> Mrigashra)> > at 9-15 pm LMT for Ayodhya on March 14, 157 BCE. There is a difference> of> > several degrees in the longitudes of other planets as well.> >> >> >> > As such, please stop all this hue and cry of having hit the bull's eye> about> > correct date and time of the birth chart of Bhagwan Rama as March 14,> 157> > BC, 9-15 PM !> >> > Regards.> >> > Avtar Krishen Kaul> >> >> >> > ****** ****** ****** **** **** **** ****> > **** ****> >> >> >> > VISHNU PROGRAM (Dt: 14, 1, -157 (i.e. 157 BC); ET = 15,45,0; Delta T => > 12163 seconds)> >> >> >> > Sun: 351-0-23; Moon 54-29-51; Rahu: 61-23-34; Tithi Panchami up to> 13-33;> > Nak = Rohini up to 18-53> >> >> >> > ******** ***** ****** *****> >> > JPL Horizon Interactive Ephemeris> >> > Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A.__(a-apparent)__DEC Cnst CT-UT ObsEcLon> > ObsEcLat> >> >> ************************************************************************\> ****> > ************> >> > Sun> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 23 27 01.17 -03 36 17.0 Psc 12161.065922> 351.0063133> > 0.0000340> >> >> >> > Moon> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 03 28 47.45 +18 38 08.8 Tau 12161.065922 54.4915556> > -0.4902773> >> >> >> > Mer> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 22 22 17.18 -12 47 47.0 Psc 12161.065922> 332.6975235> > -2.3259770> >> >> >> > Venus> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 01 43 00.52 +11 51 03.5 Tau 12161.065922 28.1626418> > 0.9743443> >> >> >> > Mars> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 19 52 09.33 -22 20 10.5 Cap 12161.065922> 295.7779512> > -1.1228396> >> >> >> > Jupiter> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 06 12 54.05 +24 19 06.0 Cnc 12161.065922 92.9389427> > 0.6362116> >> > Saturn> >> > b0157-Mar-14 15:45 20 52 46.74 -19 03 41.4 Aqr 12161.065922> 310.3236169> > -1.2531484> >> > **** **** ****> > ***** *** ***> >> > SWISS EPHEMERIS> >> > Planet Positions from Swiss Ephemeris> >> >> >> > 14.3.-156 (157 B.C.) jul. 15:45:00 UT> >> > delta t: 12162.783368 sec jd (ET) = 1664152.297023> >> >> >> > Ecl. obl. 23°42'55.9839 23°42'51.0175 (true, mean)> >> > Nutation -0° 0'14.3330 0° 0' 4.9664 (dpsi, deps)> >> >> >> > ecl. long. ecl. lat. dist. speed> > house> >> > Sun 21 pi 0'25.9252 0° 0' 0.0651 1.004232337 0°58'38.5467> > 5.4479> >> > Moon 24 ta 30' 9.3752 -0°29'22.1116 0.002692591 11°53'56.2976> > 7.7389> >> > Mercury 2 pi 41'54.4017 -2°19'33.5310 1.219369742 1°42'42.5224> > 4.8739> >> > Venus 28 ar 9'48.8651 0°58'27.5253 1.183959312 1°10'33.5965> > 6.7998> >> > Mars 25 cp 46'44.3281 -1° 7'22.2152 1.712782352 0°45'25.2075> > 3.7236> >> > Jupiter 2 cn 56'22.3535 0°38'10.2382 5.025734823 0° 2'22.1085> > 9.0054> >> > Saturn 10 aq 19'28.2380 -1°15'11.2955 10.405460233 0° 6'10.3937> > 4.1727> >> > Uranus 10 ta 38'35.1712 -0°15'35.6556 19.946191844 0° 2'32.6047> > 7.2627> >> > Neptune 4 sa 58'44.5360 1°24'15.3085 29.967116880 -0° 0' 8.8151> > 2.0860> >> > Pluto 4 pi 8'27.4361 -16° 8'44.7121 46.582511601 0° 1'26.6554> > 5.0163> >> > mean Node 1 ge 23'19.9287 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002569555 -0° 3'10.6710> > 7.9734> >> > true Node 0 ge 1'28.0071 0° 0' 0.0000 0.002683585 -0° 0'35.6759> > 7.9276> >> >> >> > AC : 3 sc 10' 0"> >> > MC : 5 le 1'41"> >> >> >> > VSOP87> >> >> >> >> >> > DeltaT = +11198s; ET = 6:51:38 PM Mar 14 0157 BC; ST = 06:08:01> >> >> >> > Point Longitude Travel Latitude> > Rt.Asc. 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Azi(0°N) Alti.> >> > Sun 20°Pi59´44´´ +00°59´ +00°00´ 351°45´> > -03°37´ 290°53´ -41°45´> >> > Mon 24°Ta34´01´´ +11°54´ -00°29´ 052°16´> > +18°39´ 280°53´ +21°08´> >> > Mer 02°Pi41 +01°43´ -02°20´> > 335°33´ -12°48´ 292°28´ -60°11´> >> > Ven 28°Ar09 +01°11´ +00°58´ 025°44´> > +11°51´ 285°53´ -04°52´> >> > Mar 25°Cp46 +00°45´ -01°07´> > 298°02´ -22°20´ 064°30´ -80°21´> >> > Jup 02°Cn56 +00°02´ +00°38´ 093°14´> > +24°19´ 273°07´ +59°07´> >> > Sat 10°Aq19 +00°06´ -01°15´> > 313°12´ -19°04´ 324°29´ -80°38´> >> > ´ Nod 00°Ge06 R -00°01´ +00°00´ 057°52´> > +20°24´ 280°34´ +26°41´> >> >> >> > *** **** ***** ****** *** ***> > **** **** ****** *******> >> > J HORA> >> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa> >> >> >> > Lagna 5 Sc 42' 49.86" Anu 1 Sc Le> >> > Sun - BK 23 Pi 55' 51.04" Reva 3 Pi Aq> >> > Moon - DK 1 Cn 00' 29.46" Puna 4 Cn Cn> >> > Mars - AmK 28 Cp 02' 52.78" Dhan 2 Cp Vi> >> > Mercury - PiK 7 Pi 56' 37.91" UBha 2 Pi Vi> >> > Jupiter - PK 3 Cn 04' 22.20" Puna 4 Cn Cn> >> > Venus - GK 1 Ta 40' 40.83" Krit 2 Ta Cp> >> > Saturn - MK 10 Aq 38' 03.76" Sata 2 Aq Cp> >> > Rahu - AK 1 Ge 13' 50.34" Mrig 3 Ge Li> >> > Ketu 1 Sg 13' 50.34" Mool 1 Sg Ar> >> > Uranus 10 Ta 46' 38.11" Rohi 1 Ta Ar> >> > Neptune ® 4 Sg 58' 04.63" Mool 2 Sg Ta> >> > Pluto 4 Pi 12' 45.84" UBha 1 Pi Le> >> > **** ***** ****> > **** ******> >