Current :2008 USA Financial Crisis-My Analysis

October 13, 2008

Om Gurave Namah

Namate All,

It was sad to see the financial markets going down to the south so I thought of

analyzing USA chart and see what is stored. In this process I have identified

there are two charts available to me based on the following messages:

a) 4-July-1976, 5:48 PM (Appx) LMT, Philadelphia, PA, USA from the following

message:

sohamsa/message/14592

b) 4-July-1976, 2:33 PM LMT, Philadelphia, PA, USA from the following message:

sohamsa/message/14643

I) I have decided to use Kashinatha Hora chart for analyzing the current USA

financial situation.

The Kashinatha hora chart shows financial gains and losses. It shows wealth,

which is nothing but all the resources at one's disposal for one's activities.

The financial situation at a given point of time and various financial

transactions can be seen in this chart.

The second lord of rasi chart is the karyesha for hora chart. This placement and

strength in hora chart is a key factor, even though not the sole factor, in

determining one's wealth.

Sun, Mars and Jupiter are strong in day-strong signs. Moon, Mercury, Venus and

Saturn are strong in night-strong signs.

Narayana dasa of the hora chart is the best tool for timing events related

finances. This shows where Narayana (effort) is at a given time, in the

financial environment in which one's physical existence takes place.

By examining the houses from lagna and arudha lagna, by examining the arudha

padas of various houses and by finding links between all these factors, one can

make good predictions on the finances of a native.

II) I have considered the following USA Chart for my analysis.

USA Natal

Chart

Date: July 4, 1776

Time: 14:33

Time Zone: 5:00:36 (West of GMT)

Place: 75 W 09' 51 " , 39 N 57' 08 "

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Maha Dasas:

Vi: 1920-07-07 (12:15:15) - 1922-07-08 (0:31:57)

Li: 1922-07-08 (0:31:57) - 1932-07-07 (13:58:13)

Sc: 1932-07-07 (13:58:13) - 1942-07-08 (3:24:27)

Sg: 1942-07-08 (3:24:27) - 1948-07-07 (16:20:59)

Cp: 1948-07-07 (16:20:59) - 1952-07-07 (16:56:12)

Aq: 1952-07-07 (16:56:12) - 1957-07-07 (23:46:04)

Pi: 1957-07-07 (23:46:04) - 1966-07-08 (7:03:47)

Ar: 1966-07-08 (7:03:47) -

1971-07-08 (13:44:27)

Ta: 1971-07-08 (13:44:27) - 1974-07-08 (8:09:41)

Ge: 1974-07-08 (8:09:41) - 1975-07-08 (14:17:08)

Cn: 1975-07-08 (14:17:08) - 1980-07-07 (21:16:40)

Le: 1980-07-07 (21:16:40) - 1982-07-08 (9:27:58)

Vi: 1982-07-08 (9:27:58) - 1992-07-07 (22:58:20)

Li: 1992-07-07 (22:58:20) - 1994-07-08 (11:17:19)

Sc: 1994-07-08 (11:17:19) - 1996-07-07 (23:37:01)

Sg: 1996-07-07 (23:37:01) - 2002-07-08 (12:30:04)

===>> Cp: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

Aq: 2010-07-08 (13:39:15) - 2017-07-08 (8:45:40)

Pi: 2017-07-08 (8:45:40) - 2020-07-08 (3:09:50)

Ar: 2020-07-08 (3:09:50) - 2027-07-08 (22:10:53)

Ta: 2027-07-08 (22:10:53) - 2036-07-08 (5:32:32)

Ge: 2036-07-08 (5:32:32) - 2047-07-09 (1:09:37)

Cn: 2047-07-09 (1:09:37) - 2054-07-08 (20:07:49)

Le: 2054-07-08

(20:07:49) - 2064-07-08 (9:54:05)

Karyesha, i.e. the 2nd lord of rasi chart are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is placed in

trikona from D-2 Lagna and also AL. Kuja is with HL ( Hora Lagna). Other

Karyesha, Ketu is placed 10th from D-2 Lagna and 2nd from AL in hora chart. More

significantly, this Kuja is being aspected by SL from Mithuna. Kuja is with 1st

and 6th lord Sukra along with A8 and A3 in Kanya. Thus this country will be

successful, amasses wealth and attains influence and power at this level. Now

taking a deep dive into Dasa and their analysis.

Let us start analyzing Hora (D-2) Narayana dasa, starting from the current

running Makara(Cp) dasa (2002-2010).

Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Cp MD: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

Sc AD: 2008-07-08 (1:19:27) - 2009-03-06 (17:23:48)

Pratyantardasas in this

AD:

Vi: 2008-07-08 (1:19:27) - 2008-07-29 (0:31:32)

Le: 2008-07-29 (0:31:32) - 2008-08-18 (21:14:05)

Cn: 2008-08-18 (21:14:05) - 2008-09-08 (13:45:48)

Ge: 2008-09-08 (13:45:48) - 2008-09-29 (1:09:16)

Ta: 2008-09-29 (1:09:16) - 2008-10-19 (6:52:21)

Ar: 2008-10-19 (6:52:21) - 2008-11-08 (7:06:17)

Pi: 2008-11-08 (7:06:17) - 2008-11-28 (2:58:09)

Aq: 2008-11-28 (2:58:09) - 2008-12-17 (19:43:51)

Cp: 2008-12-17 (19:43:51) - 2009-01-06 (10:54:36)

Sg: 2009-01-06 (10:54:36) - 2009-01-26 (2:31:21)

Sc: 2009-01-26 (2:31:21) - 2009-02-14 (20:12:25)

Li: 2009-02-14 (20:12:25) - 2009-03-06 (17:23:48)

Makara is the 10th from D-2 Lagna and AL is placed in it. Dasa and AL Lord Shani

is placed in Kanya along with D-2 Lagna and 6th lord Sukra (who is also

debilitated). Kanya has A8 and A3 its lord Budha is Vakra and placed in 3rd

from D-2 Lagna and 7th from AL and Dasa Rasi. This Dasa and AL lord Shani is

also conjoined with Kuja who is 12th, HL and 7th Lord from D-2 Lagna. So these

combination are not good and does not show much gains and financial well being

during this Maha Dasa. Now let us analyse the Antara Dasas.

The current antara dasa is Vrishchika which is 10th from Maha Dasa of

Makara.Antar dasa lords are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is placed in 5th (D-2 Lagna)

along with the Maha Dasa Lord Sahni in Kanya Rasi. Also this Kuja is placed in

9th from AL. The Co-lord Ketu is placed in 10th from D2 Lagna and 2nd from AL

and also Maha Dasa.

Vrishchika is a Seershodaya (head rising) sign, hence the antar dasa results

will be given as follows:

1st 1/3rd = House

2nd 1/3rd = Lord

3rd 1/3rd = Occupants and Aspectors

The USA had just completed the 1st 1/3 when the financial market

turmoil had started. So let us see why is this first.

Vrishchika is the 7th house which contains Mandi. This Vrishchika is 11th from

Maha Dasa Sign. Vrishchika is being aspected by Makara ( where AL ) is placed,

Mesha where Gulika and HL, A10 (activities related to money and career) and A4

(activities related property, housing etc.,) are placed and finally Kataka where

retro Budha ( business) and A7 (partnership) are placed. Kanya ( A8 and A3 are

placed in it), Kumbha ( UL is placed in it) having argala on this Antar dasa

rasi of Vrishchika. So this explains why the financial problems of this chart so

far.

Now let us see te 2nd 1/3rd results. The results will be given by the Lord of

the sign of Vrishchika. Antar dasa lords are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is placed in

5th (D-2 Lagna) along with the Maha Dasa Lord Sahni in Kanya Rasi. Also this

Kuja is placed in 9th from AL. The Co-lord Ketu is placed in 10th

from D2 Lagna and 2nd from AL and also Maha Dasa.

Dasa and AL Lord Shani is placed in Kanya along with D-2 Lagna and 6th lord

Sukra (who is also debilitated). Kanya has A8 (Financial risks, unexpected

turns/swings) and A3 (bold enterprise and business ventures). AL lord Shani is

also conjoined with Kuja who is Antar Dasa, 12th, HL and 7th Lord from D-2

Lagna. So these combination are not good and does not show much gains and

financial well being during this 2nd half too.

3rd part results are seen by the Occupants and Aspectors of the Antar Dasa sign

of Sc. No planet occupied other than Mandi. Sc is being aspected by Cp ( where

AL-overall image ) is placed, Ar where Gulika and HL, A10 (activities related to

money and career) and A4 (activities related property, housing etc.,) are placed

and finally Kataka where retro Budha ( business) and A7 (partnership) are

placed. Kanya ( A8 and A3 are placed in

it), Kumbha ( UL is placed in it) having argala on this Antar dasa rasi of

Vrishchika.

So these combination are not very good and does not show much gains and

financial well being during this 3rd half of this Antar Dasa which is upto end

of Feb 2009.

III) Now, let us see the next Antar Dasa, which is Dhanus.

Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

Cp MD: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

Sg AD: 2009-03-06 (17:23:48) - 2009-11-08 (13:13:30)

Pratyantardasas in this AD:

Cn: 2009-03-06 (17:23:48) - 2009-03-26 (19:30:45)

Ge: 2009-03-26 (19:30:45) - 2009-04-16 (3:09:21)

Ta: 2009-04-16 (3:09:21) - 2009-05-06 (16:15:05)

Ar: 2009-05-06 (16:15:05) - 2009-05-27 (10:19:29)

Pi: 2009-05-27 (10:19:29) - 2009-06-17 (8:04:55)

Aq: 2009-06-17 (8:04:55) - 2009-07-08 (7:29:55)

Cp: 2009-07-08 (7:29:55) - 2009-07-29 (6:32:26)

Sg: 2009-07-29 (6:32:26) - 2009-08-19 (3:16:38)

Sc: 2009-08-19 (3:16:38) - 2009-09-08 (19:51:49)

Li: 2009-09-08 (19:51:49) - 2009-09-29 (7:07:24)

Vi: 2009-09-29 (7:07:24) - 2009-10-19 (12:50:07)

Le: 2009-10-19 (12:50:07) - 2009-11-08 (13:13:30)

Dhanus is a Prishthodaya (back rising) sign, hence the antar dasa results will

be given as follows:

1st 1/3rd = Occupants and Aspectors

2nd 1/3rd = Lord

3rd 1/3rd = House

The 1st 1/3 is from Mar 6th 2009 thru May 27th 2009. The results will be given

by the Occupants and Aspectors of Dhanus. No one occupied this rasi, but it is

12th from AL and also Maha Dasa. 8th from D-2 Lagna. The aspectors are from

Mithuna rasi, its own Lord Jup, Sun ( 3rd Lord ), SL and A11 (profits, income

and gains ).

Kanya is aspecting Dhanus with Ven ( 1st and 6th lord and debilitated), Sat (

Maha Dasa and AL Lord), Mars ( 7th, 12, HL, A10 and A4 lord ) and A8 (Financial

risks, unexpected turns/swings) and A3 (bold enterprise and business ventures).

Now very interestingly, the Yogakaraka Shani ( who is also Lord of AL and Maha

Dasa Lord) is involved with multiple Rajayogas with Shukra and Kuja. Also there

is a Vipareeta Rajayoga with Sukra and Kuja who are all placed in Kanya and

aspecting the Antar Dasa of Dhanus. This is a very good indication for

betterment.

Summary : So all the above combination are indicating to me that, the USA

financial market will show the reversal of the current situation and move to

upward swing from the Dhanus Antar Dasa period which will start from March 6th

2009 onwards. I am feeling a little better now, hence I will pause here and

continue my further analysis later.

Regards

Raghunatha

Rao

http://www.Prashna-Astrology.com

October 14, 2008

good show...keep it up- guruji

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Raghunatha Rao Nemani

<raon1008wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namate All,

>

> It was sad to see the financial markets going down to the south so I

> thought of analyzing USA chart and see what is stored. In this process I

> have identified there are two charts available to me based on the following

> messages:

>

> a) 4-July-1976, 5:48 PM (Appx) LMT, Philadelphia, PA, USA from the

> following message:

>

> sohamsa/message/14592

>

> b) 4-July-1976, 2:33 PM LMT, Philadelphia, PA, USA from the following

> message:

>

> sohamsa/message/14643

>

> I) I have decided to use Kashinatha Hora chart for analyzing the current

> USA financial situation.

>

> The Kashinatha hora chart shows financial gains and losses. It shows

> wealth, which is nothing but all the resources at one's disposal for one's

> activities.

> The financial situation at a given point of time and various financial

> transactions can be seen in this chart.

>

> The second lord of rasi chart is the karyesha for hora chart. This

> placement and strength in hora chart is a key factor, even though not the

> sole factor, in determining one's wealth.

>

> Sun, Mars and Jupiter are strong in day-strong signs. Moon, Mercury, Venus

> and Saturn are strong in night-strong signs.

>

> Narayana dasa of the hora chart is the best tool for timing events related

> finances. This shows where Narayana (effort) is at a given time, in the

> financial environment in which one's physical existence takes place.

>

> By examining the houses from lagna and arudha lagna, by examining the

> arudha padas of various houses and by finding links between all these

> factors, one can make good predictions on the finances of a native.

>

> II) I have considered the following USA Chart for my analysis.

>

> USA Natal

> Chart

>

> July 4, 1776

> Time: 14:33

> Time Zone: 5:00:36 (West of GMT)

> Place: 75 W 09' 51 " , 39 N 57' 08 "

> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Vi: 1920-07-07 (12:15:15) - 1922-07-08 (0:31:57)

> Li: 1922-07-08 (0:31:57) - 1932-07-07 (13:58:13)

> Sc: 1932-07-07 (13:58:13) - 1942-07-08 (3:24:27)

> Sg: 1942-07-08 (3:24:27) - 1948-07-07 (16:20:59)

> Cp: 1948-07-07 (16:20:59) - 1952-07-07 (16:56:12)

> Aq: 1952-07-07 (16:56:12) - 1957-07-07 (23:46:04)

> Pi: 1957-07-07 (23:46:04) - 1966-07-08 (7:03:47)

> Ar: 1966-07-08 (7:03:47) -

> 1971-07-08 (13:44:27)

> Ta: 1971-07-08 (13:44:27) - 1974-07-08 (8:09:41)

> Ge: 1974-07-08 (8:09:41) - 1975-07-08 (14:17:08)

> Cn: 1975-07-08 (14:17:08) - 1980-07-07 (21:16:40)

> Le: 1980-07-07 (21:16:40) - 1982-07-08 (9:27:58)

> Vi: 1982-07-08 (9:27:58) - 1992-07-07 (22:58:20)

> Li: 1992-07-07 (22:58:20) - 1994-07-08 (11:17:19)

> Sc: 1994-07-08 (11:17:19) - 1996-07-07 (23:37:01)

> Sg: 1996-07-07 (23:37:01) - 2002-07-08 (12:30:04)

> ===>> Cp: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

> Aq: 2010-07-08 (13:39:15) - 2017-07-08 (8:45:40)

> Pi: 2017-07-08 (8:45:40) - 2020-07-08 (3:09:50)

> Ar: 2020-07-08 (3:09:50) - 2027-07-08 (22:10:53)

> Ta: 2027-07-08 (22:10:53) - 2036-07-08 (5:32:32)

> Ge: 2036-07-08 (5:32:32) - 2047-07-09 (1:09:37)

> Cn: 2047-07-09 (1:09:37) - 2054-07-08 (20:07:49)

> Le: 2054-07-08

> (20:07:49) - 2064-07-08 (9:54:05)

>

> Karyesha, i.e. the 2nd lord of rasi chart are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is placed

> in trikona from D-2 Lagna and also AL. Kuja is with HL ( Hora Lagna). Other

> Karyesha, Ketu is placed 10th from D-2 Lagna and 2nd from AL in hora chart.

> More significantly, this Kuja is being aspected by SL from Mithuna. Kuja is

> with 1st and 6th lord Sukra along with A8 and A3 in Kanya. Thus this country

> will be successful, amasses wealth and attains influence and power at this

> level. Now taking a deep dive into Dasa and their analysis.

>

> Let us start analyzing Hora (D-2) Narayana dasa, starting from the current

> running Makara(Cp) dasa (2002-2010).

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Cp MD: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

> Sc AD: 2008-07-08 (1:19:27) - 2009-03-06 (17:23:48)

>

> Pratyantardasas in this

> AD:

>

> Vi: 2008-07-08 (1:19:27) - 2008-07-29 (0:31:32)

> Le: 2008-07-29 (0:31:32) - 2008-08-18 (21:14:05)

> Cn: 2008-08-18 (21:14:05) - 2008-09-08 (13:45:48)

> Ge: 2008-09-08 (13:45:48) - 2008-09-29 (1:09:16)

>

> Ta: 2008-09-29 (1:09:16) - 2008-10-19 (6:52:21)

> Ar: 2008-10-19 (6:52:21) - 2008-11-08 (7:06:17)

> Pi: 2008-11-08 (7:06:17) - 2008-11-28 (2:58:09)

> Aq: 2008-11-28 (2:58:09) - 2008-12-17 (19:43:51)

>

> Cp: 2008-12-17 (19:43:51) - 2009-01-06 (10:54:36)

> Sg: 2009-01-06 (10:54:36) - 2009-01-26 (2:31:21)

> Sc: 2009-01-26 (2:31:21) - 2009-02-14 (20:12:25)

> Li: 2009-02-14 (20:12:25) - 2009-03-06 (17:23:48)

>

> Makara is the 10th from D-2 Lagna and AL is placed in it. Dasa and AL Lord

> Shani is placed in Kanya along with D-2 Lagna and 6th lord Sukra (who is

> also

> debilitated). Kanya has A8 and A3 its lord Budha is Vakra and placed in 3rd

> from D-2 Lagna and 7th from AL and Dasa Rasi. This Dasa and AL lord Shani is

> also conjoined with Kuja who is 12th, HL and 7th Lord from D-2 Lagna. So

> these combination are not good and does not show much gains and financial

> well being during this Maha Dasa. Now let us analyse the Antara Dasas.

>

> The current antara dasa is Vrishchika which is 10th from Maha Dasa of

> Makara.Antar dasa lords are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is placed in 5th (D-2 Lagna)

> along with the Maha Dasa Lord Sahni in Kanya Rasi. Also this Kuja is placed

> in 9th from AL. The Co-lord Ketu is placed in 10th from D2 Lagna and 2nd

> from AL and also Maha Dasa.

>

> Vrishchika is a Seershodaya (head rising) sign, hence the antar dasa

> results will be given as follows:

>

> 1st 1/3rd = House

> 2nd 1/3rd = Lord

> 3rd 1/3rd = Occupants and Aspectors

>

> The USA had just completed the 1st 1/3 when the financial market

> turmoil had started. So let us see why is this first.

>

> Vrishchika is the 7th house which contains Mandi. This Vrishchika is 11th

> from Maha Dasa Sign. Vrishchika is being aspected by Makara ( where AL ) is

> placed, Mesha where Gulika and HL, A10 (activities related to money and

> career) and A4 (activities related property, housing etc.,) are placed and

> finally Kataka where retro Budha ( business) and A7 (partnership) are

> placed. Kanya ( A8 and A3 are placed in it), Kumbha ( UL is placed in it)

> having argala on this Antar dasa rasi of Vrishchika. So this explains why

> the financial problems of this chart so far.

>

> Now let us see te 2nd 1/3rd results. The results will be given by the Lord

> of the sign of Vrishchika. Antar dasa lords are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is

> placed in 5th (D-2 Lagna) along with the Maha Dasa Lord Sahni in Kanya Rasi.

> Also this Kuja is placed in 9th from AL. The Co-lord Ketu is placed in 10th

> from D2 Lagna and 2nd from AL and also Maha Dasa.

>

> Dasa and AL Lord Shani is placed in Kanya along with D-2 Lagna and 6th lord

> Sukra (who is also debilitated). Kanya has A8 (Financial risks, unexpected

> turns/swings) and A3 (bold enterprise and business ventures). AL lord Shani

> is also conjoined with Kuja who is Antar Dasa, 12th, HL and 7th Lord from

> D-2 Lagna. So these combination are not good and does not show much gains

> and financial well being during this 2nd half too.

>

> 3rd part results are seen by the Occupants and Aspectors of the Antar Dasa

> sign of Sc. No planet occupied other than Mandi. Sc is being aspected by Cp

> ( where AL-overall image ) is placed, Ar where Gulika and HL, A10

> (activities related to money and career) and A4 (activities related

> property, housing etc.,) are placed and finally Kataka where retro Budha (

> business) and A7 (partnership) are placed. Kanya ( A8 and A3 are placed in

> it), Kumbha ( UL is placed in it) having argala on this Antar dasa rasi of

> Vrishchika.

>

> So these combination are not very good and does not show much gains and

> financial well being during this 3rd half of this Antar Dasa which is upto

> end of Feb 2009.

>

> III) Now, let us see the next Antar Dasa, which is Dhanus.

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Cp MD: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

> Sg AD: 2009-03-06 (17:23:48) - 2009-11-08 (13:13:30)

>

> Pratyantardasas in this AD:

>

> Cn: 2009-03-06 (17:23:48) - 2009-03-26 (19:30:45)

> Ge: 2009-03-26 (19:30:45) - 2009-04-16 (3:09:21)

> Ta: 2009-04-16 (3:09:21) - 2009-05-06 (16:15:05)

> Ar: 2009-05-06 (16:15:05) - 2009-05-27 (10:19:29)

>

> Pi: 2009-05-27 (10:19:29) - 2009-06-17 (8:04:55)

>

> Aq: 2009-06-17 (8:04:55) - 2009-07-08 (7:29:55)

> Cp: 2009-07-08 (7:29:55) - 2009-07-29 (6:32:26)

> Sg: 2009-07-29 (6:32:26) - 2009-08-19 (3:16:38)

>

> Sc: 2009-08-19 (3:16:38) - 2009-09-08 (19:51:49)

> Li: 2009-09-08 (19:51:49) - 2009-09-29 (7:07:24)

> Vi: 2009-09-29 (7:07:24) - 2009-10-19 (12:50:07)

> Le: 2009-10-19 (12:50:07) - 2009-11-08 (13:13:30)

>

> Dhanus is a Prishthodaya (back rising) sign, hence the antar dasa results

> will be given as follows:

>

> 1st 1/3rd = Occupants and Aspectors

> 2nd 1/3rd = Lord

> 3rd 1/3rd = House

>

> The 1st 1/3 is from Mar 6th 2009 thru May 27th 2009. The results will be

> given by the Occupants and Aspectors of Dhanus. No one occupied this rasi,

> but it is 12th from AL and also Maha Dasa. 8th from D-2 Lagna. The aspectors

> are from Mithuna rasi, its own Lord Jup, Sun ( 3rd Lord ), SL and A11

> (profits, income and gains ).

> Kanya is aspecting Dhanus with Ven ( 1st and 6th lord and debilitated), Sat

> ( Maha Dasa and AL Lord), Mars ( 7th, 12, HL, A10 and A4 lord ) and A8

> (Financial risks, unexpected turns/swings) and A3 (bold enterprise and

> business ventures). Now very interestingly, the Yogakaraka Shani ( who is

> also Lord of AL and Maha Dasa Lord) is involved with multiple Rajayogas

> with Shukra and Kuja. Also there is a Vipareeta Rajayoga with Sukra and Kuja

> who are all placed in Kanya and aspecting the Antar Dasa of Dhanus. This is

> a very good indication for betterment.

>

> Summary : So all the above combination are indicating to me that, the USA

> financial market will show the reversal of the current situation and move to

> upward swing from the Dhanus Antar Dasa period which will start from March

> 6th 2009 onwards. I am feeling a little better now, hence I will pause here

> and continue my further analysis later.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha

> Rao

> http://www.Prashna-Astrology.com

>

October 14, 2008

Dear Shri Raghunatha Rao ji

You have done a wonderful analysis. Thanx for sharing your valuable

thoughts with us. I have only one doubt in this regard I hope you

will find a solution and present it on the forum. Problem is there

are many TOB are in circulation for the chart of USA, for instance,

you mentioned two different timings as what you came across and i have

third time which is used by Mr. KN Rao it is 10:21 hrs with LEO

Ascendant. I am confused which to choose. I am always baffled with

these things especially how to fix the lagna etc.

Regards

Razen.

sohamsa , Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008

wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namate All,

>

> It was sad to see the financial markets going down to the south so I

thought of analyzing USA chart and see what is stored. In this process

I have identified there are two charts available to me based on the

following messages:

>

> a) 4-July-1976, 5:48 PM (Appx) LMT, Philadelphia, PA, USA from the

following message:

>

> sohamsa/message/14592

>

> b) 4-July-1976, 2:33 PM LMT, Philadelphia, PA, USA from the

following message:

>

> sohamsa/message/14643

>

> I) I have decided to use Kashinatha Hora chart for analyzing the

current USA financial situation.

>

> The Kashinatha hora chart shows financial gains and losses. It shows

wealth, which is nothing but all the resources at one's disposal for

one's activities.

> The financial situation at a given point of time and various

financial transactions can be seen in this chart.

>

> The second lord of rasi chart is the karyesha for hora chart. This

placement and strength in hora chart is a key factor, even though not

the sole factor, in determining one's wealth.

>

> Sun, Mars and Jupiter are strong in day-strong signs. Moon, Mercury,

Venus and Saturn are strong in night-strong signs.

>

> Narayana dasa of the hora chart is the best tool for timing events

related finances. This shows where Narayana (effort) is at a given

time, in the financial environment in which one's physical existence

takes place.

>

> By examining the houses from lagna and arudha lagna, by examining

the arudha padas of various houses and by finding links between all

these factors, one can make good predictions on the finances of a native.

>

> II) I have considered the following USA Chart for my analysis.

>

> USA Natal

> Chart

>

> Date: July 4, 1776

> Time: 14:33

> Time Zone: 5:00:36 (West of GMT)

> Place: 75 W 09' 51 " , 39 N 57' 08 "

> Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Maha Dasas:

>

> Vi: 1920-07-07 (12:15:15) - 1922-07-08 (0:31:57)

> Li: 1922-07-08 (0:31:57) - 1932-07-07 (13:58:13)

> Sc: 1932-07-07 (13:58:13) - 1942-07-08 (3:24:27)

> Sg: 1942-07-08 (3:24:27) - 1948-07-07 (16:20:59)

> Cp: 1948-07-07 (16:20:59) - 1952-07-07 (16:56:12)

> Aq: 1952-07-07 (16:56:12) - 1957-07-07 (23:46:04)

> Pi: 1957-07-07 (23:46:04) - 1966-07-08 (7:03:47)

> Ar: 1966-07-08 (7:03:47) -

> 1971-07-08 (13:44:27)

> Ta: 1971-07-08 (13:44:27) - 1974-07-08 (8:09:41)

> Ge: 1974-07-08 (8:09:41) - 1975-07-08 (14:17:08)

> Cn: 1975-07-08 (14:17:08) - 1980-07-07 (21:16:40)

> Le: 1980-07-07 (21:16:40) - 1982-07-08 (9:27:58)

> Vi: 1982-07-08 (9:27:58) - 1992-07-07 (22:58:20)

> Li: 1992-07-07 (22:58:20) - 1994-07-08 (11:17:19)

> Sc: 1994-07-08 (11:17:19) - 1996-07-07 (23:37:01)

> Sg: 1996-07-07 (23:37:01) - 2002-07-08 (12:30:04)

> ===>> Cp: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

> Aq: 2010-07-08 (13:39:15) - 2017-07-08 (8:45:40)

> Pi: 2017-07-08 (8:45:40) - 2020-07-08 (3:09:50)

> Ar: 2020-07-08 (3:09:50) - 2027-07-08 (22:10:53)

> Ta: 2027-07-08 (22:10:53) - 2036-07-08 (5:32:32)

> Ge: 2036-07-08 (5:32:32) - 2047-07-09 (1:09:37)

> Cn: 2047-07-09 (1:09:37) - 2054-07-08 (20:07:49)

> Le: 2054-07-08

> (20:07:49) - 2064-07-08 (9:54:05)

>

> Karyesha, i.e. the 2nd lord of rasi chart are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is

placed in trikona from D-2 Lagna and also AL. Kuja is with HL ( Hora

Lagna). Other Karyesha, Ketu is placed 10th from D-2 Lagna and 2nd

from AL in hora chart. More significantly, this Kuja is being aspected

by SL from Mithuna. Kuja is with 1st and 6th lord Sukra along with A8

and A3 in Kanya. Thus this country will be successful, amasses wealth

and attains influence and power at this level. Now taking a deep dive

into Dasa and their analysis.

>

> Let us start analyzing Hora (D-2) Narayana dasa, starting from the

current running Makara(Cp) dasa (2002-2010).

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Cp MD: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

> Sc AD: 2008-07-08 (1:19:27) - 2009-03-06 (17:23:48)

>

> Pratyantardasas in this

> AD:

>

> Vi: 2008-07-08 (1:19:27) - 2008-07-29 (0:31:32)

> Le: 2008-07-29 (0:31:32) - 2008-08-18 (21:14:05)

> Cn: 2008-08-18 (21:14:05) - 2008-09-08 (13:45:48)

> Ge: 2008-09-08 (13:45:48) - 2008-09-29 (1:09:16)

>

> Ta: 2008-09-29 (1:09:16) - 2008-10-19 (6:52:21)

> Ar: 2008-10-19 (6:52:21) - 2008-11-08 (7:06:17)

> Pi: 2008-11-08 (7:06:17) - 2008-11-28 (2:58:09)

> Aq: 2008-11-28 (2:58:09) - 2008-12-17 (19:43:51)

>

> Cp: 2008-12-17 (19:43:51) - 2009-01-06 (10:54:36)

> Sg: 2009-01-06 (10:54:36) - 2009-01-26 (2:31:21)

> Sc: 2009-01-26 (2:31:21) - 2009-02-14 (20:12:25)

> Li: 2009-02-14 (20:12:25) - 2009-03-06 (17:23:48)

>

> Makara is the 10th from D-2 Lagna and AL is placed in it. Dasa and

AL Lord Shani is placed in Kanya along with D-2 Lagna and 6th lord

Sukra (who is also

> debilitated). Kanya has A8 and A3 its lord Budha is Vakra and

placed in 3rd from D-2 Lagna and 7th from AL and Dasa Rasi. This Dasa

and AL lord Shani is also conjoined with Kuja who is 12th, HL and 7th

Lord from D-2 Lagna. So these combination are not good and does not

show much gains and financial well being during this Maha Dasa. Now

let us analyse the Antara Dasas.

>

> The current antara dasa is Vrishchika which is 10th from Maha Dasa

of Makara.Antar dasa lords are Kuja and Ketu. Kuja is placed in 5th

(D-2 Lagna) along with the Maha Dasa Lord Sahni in Kanya Rasi. Also

this Kuja is placed in 9th from AL. The Co-lord Ketu is placed in 10th

from D2 Lagna and 2nd from AL and also Maha Dasa.

>

> Vrishchika is a Seershodaya (head rising) sign, hence the antar dasa

results will be given as follows:

>

> 1st 1/3rd = House

> 2nd 1/3rd = Lord

> 3rd 1/3rd = Occupants and Aspectors

>

> The USA had just completed the 1st 1/3 when the financial market

> turmoil had started. So let us see why is this first.

>

> Vrishchika is the 7th house which contains Mandi. This Vrishchika is

11th from Maha Dasa Sign. Vrishchika is being aspected by Makara (

where AL ) is placed, Mesha where Gulika and HL, A10 (activities

related to money and career) and A4 (activities related property,

housing etc.,) are placed and finally Kataka where retro Budha (

business) and A7 (partnership) are placed. Kanya ( A8 and A3 are

placed in it), Kumbha ( UL is placed in it) having argala on this

Antar dasa rasi of Vrishchika. So this explains why the financial

problems of this chart so far.

>

> Now let us see te 2nd 1/3rd results. The results will be given by

the Lord of the sign of Vrishchika. Antar dasa lords are Kuja and

Ketu. Kuja is placed in 5th (D-2 Lagna) along with the Maha Dasa Lord

Sahni in Kanya Rasi. Also this Kuja is placed in 9th from AL. The

Co-lord Ketu is placed in 10th

> from D2 Lagna and 2nd from AL and also Maha Dasa.

>

> Dasa and AL Lord Shani is placed in Kanya along with D-2 Lagna and

6th lord Sukra (who is also debilitated). Kanya has A8 (Financial

risks, unexpected turns/swings) and A3 (bold enterprise and business

ventures). AL lord Shani is also conjoined with Kuja who is Antar

Dasa, 12th, HL and 7th Lord from D-2 Lagna. So these combination are

not good and does not show much gains and financial well being during

this 2nd half too.

>

> 3rd part results are seen by the Occupants and Aspectors of the

Antar Dasa sign of Sc. No planet occupied other than Mandi. Sc is

being aspected by Cp ( where AL-overall image ) is placed, Ar where

Gulika and HL, A10 (activities related to money and career) and A4

(activities related property, housing etc.,) are placed and finally

Kataka where retro Budha ( business) and A7 (partnership) are placed.

Kanya ( A8 and A3 are placed in

> it), Kumbha ( UL is placed in it) having argala on this Antar dasa

rasi of Vrishchika.

>

> So these combination are not very good and does not show much gains

and financial well being during this 3rd half of this Antar Dasa which

is upto end of Feb 2009.

>

> III) Now, let us see the next Antar Dasa, which is Dhanus.

>

> Narayana Dasa of D-2 (KN) chart (a versatile phalita rasi dasa):

>

> Cp MD: 2002-07-08 (12:30:04) - 2010-07-08 (13:39:15)

> Sg AD: 2009-03-06 (17:23:48) - 2009-11-08 (13:13:30)

>

> Pratyantardasas in this AD:

>

> Cn: 2009-03-06 (17:23:48) - 2009-03-26 (19:30:45)

> Ge: 2009-03-26 (19:30:45) - 2009-04-16 (3:09:21)

> Ta: 2009-04-16 (3:09:21) - 2009-05-06 (16:15:05)

> Ar: 2009-05-06 (16:15:05) - 2009-05-27 (10:19:29)

>

> Pi: 2009-05-27 (10:19:29) - 2009-06-17 (8:04:55)

>

> Aq: 2009-06-17 (8:04:55) - 2009-07-08 (7:29:55)

> Cp: 2009-07-08 (7:29:55) - 2009-07-29 (6:32:26)

> Sg: 2009-07-29 (6:32:26) - 2009-08-19 (3:16:38)

>

> Sc: 2009-08-19 (3:16:38) - 2009-09-08 (19:51:49)

> Li: 2009-09-08 (19:51:49) - 2009-09-29 (7:07:24)

> Vi: 2009-09-29 (7:07:24) - 2009-10-19 (12:50:07)

> Le: 2009-10-19 (12:50:07) - 2009-11-08 (13:13:30)

>

> Dhanus is a Prishthodaya (back rising) sign, hence the antar dasa

results will be given as follows:

>

> 1st 1/3rd = Occupants and Aspectors

> 2nd 1/3rd = Lord

> 3rd 1/3rd = House

>

> The 1st 1/3 is from Mar 6th 2009 thru May 27th 2009. The results

will be given by the Occupants and Aspectors of Dhanus. No one

occupied this rasi, but it is 12th from AL and also Maha Dasa. 8th

from D-2 Lagna. The aspectors are from Mithuna rasi, its own Lord Jup,

Sun ( 3rd Lord ), SL and A11 (profits, income and gains ).

> Kanya is aspecting Dhanus with Ven ( 1st and 6th lord and

debilitated), Sat ( Maha Dasa and AL Lord), Mars ( 7th, 12, HL, A10

and A4 lord ) and A8 (Financial risks, unexpected turns/swings) and A3

(bold enterprise and business ventures). Now very interestingly, the

Yogakaraka Shani ( who is also Lord of AL and Maha Dasa Lord) is

involved with multiple Rajayogas with Shukra and Kuja. Also there is a

Vipareeta Rajayoga with Sukra and Kuja who are all placed in Kanya and

aspecting the Antar Dasa of Dhanus. This is a very good indication for

betterment.

>

> Summary : So all the above combination are indicating to me that,

the USA financial market will show the reversal of the current

situation and move to upward swing from the Dhanus Antar Dasa period

which will start from March 6th 2009 onwards. I am feeling a little

better now, hence I will pause here and continue my further analysis

later.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha

> Rao

> http://www.Prashna-Astrology.com

>

October 14, 2008

Om Gurave Namah

Namaste Razen Ji,

Thanks for the note and I agree with your concern of what is the

accurate TOB. In this case I have considered the time ( 2:33 PM) which

was kind of verified by one of our SJC Guru's: Smt Sat Siri Khalsa Ji.

I personally did not verified because of short of time in my hand, but

while analyzing with this chart, the current financial trend seems to

fit with the TOB considered. Again, it is very easy to get into the

trap of justifying the known facts with the many variable at our

disposable while analyzing a chart. So I have carefully analysed

keeping in this mind and felt like the time was accurate and then went

into the prediction. So one way to validate this time is accurate is

to wait till Mar 2009 and see whether the prediction is really

accurate. So I would wait for that and go from there.

Meanwhile, if you have some time, please consider any other TOB's you

may have ( other than what I have considered) and try to see which

chart matches with the current financial situation and share with us

your findings.

That is why my Jyotish Gurus always advised me take the help of

Prashna in such situations where the TOB is in question. When time

permits, I will cast a Prashna and analyze to see what it reveals. So

please stay tuned.

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

http://www.Prashna-Astrology.com

sohamsa , " razenonly " <balram2005 wrote: