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Dear Jain Saheb

Jaya Siyaa Raam

For the last 10 years I have suffering with multiple problems

regarding health - accidents, arthritis, hospitalizations for various

minor and major reasons etc. My details are

Date of Birth = 27 May 1943

Place of Birth = Aligarh (UP)

Time of Birth = 8.10 pm

 

Could you tell me ahy all this is happening to me. I am just fed up

with my sickness. Which planet is affecting my health so much that I

can't even pass a few months without doctor? Please help me.

Thanks

With regards

Sushma

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Namaskaar sushmaji

 

as per ur horoscope,

lagna is in naxatra of aflcited mercury whu is retro.

 

there are sun satrun and retro mercury in 7th house, among them sun

is not comfortable, in taurs plus it is with inimical satrun. satrun

is again with inimical sun. there is parivartana of 7th and 8th

house mercury and venus.

 

kendra sthana gives immunity to body, when it is aflicted chances of

health problems always remains.

4th lord satrun aflicted

7th lord venus aflicted by mars

10th lord sun aflicted by satrun.

lagna lord is not aflcited but lagna bhava afected..

 

basically lagna lagna lord, and karaka for health sun has to be

cheked. out of 3, 2 are afected.

 

nadi astrology consider jupiter as jeeva means life or life giver.

though exalted its with rahu.

 

there is powerfull aragla of sun satrun and mercury to lagna, as

well as jupiter and even mars lagna lord. so u recover and often

fall sick again.

 

worship to sun and satrun and mars will be beneficial.

 

bskjain55

bskjain55

 

 

 

-- In , " bhagvatjee "

<bhagvatjee wrote:

>

> Dear Jain Saheb

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> For the last 10 years I have suffering with multiple problems

> regarding health - accidents, arthritis, hospitalizations for

various

> minor and major reasons etc. My details are

> Date of Birth = 27 May 1943

> Place of Birth = Aligarh (UP)

> Time of Birth = 8.10 pm

>

> Could you tell me ahy all this is happening to me. I am just fed

up

> with my sickness. Which planet is affecting my health so much that

I

> can't even pass a few months without doctor? Please help me.

> Thanks

> With regards

> Sushma

>

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Dear Jain Saheb,

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Thanks for analyzing my chart. Could you guide me as how to worship

these three Devtaa. I live in the USA, so I have my own limitations.

Any Mantra or Vrat (fast), or reading some Stotra etc can be viable

for me.

 

I am coming to India for a short visit, if I can do anyhing one time,

I can do it there, but for daily things, only the above things are

good for me.

 

I will be grateful for your guidance.

Thanks, with regards

Sushma

 

, " bskjain55 " <bskjain55

wrote:

>

> Namaskaar sushmaji

>

> as per ur horoscope,

> lagna is in naxatra of aflcited mercury whu is retro.

>

> there are sun satrun and retro mercury in 7th house, among them sun

> is not comfortable, in taurs plus it is with inimical satrun.

satrun

> is again with inimical sun. there is parivartana of 7th and 8th

> house mercury and venus.

>

> kendra sthana gives immunity to body, when it is aflicted chances

of

> health problems always remains.

> 4th lord satrun aflicted

> 7th lord venus aflicted by mars

> 10th lord sun aflicted by satrun.

> lagna lord is not aflcited but lagna bhava afected..

>

> basically lagna lagna lord, and karaka for health sun has to be

> cheked. out of 3, 2 are afected.

>

> nadi astrology consider jupiter as jeeva means life or life giver.

> though exalted its with rahu.

>

> there is powerfull aragla of sun satrun and mercury to lagna, as

> well as jupiter and even mars lagna lord. so u recover and often

> fall sick again.

>

> worship to sun and satrun and mars will be beneficial.

>

> bskjain55

> bskjain55

>

>

>

> -- In , " bhagvatjee "

> <bhagvatjee@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jain Saheb

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > For the last 10 years I have suffering with multiple problems

> > regarding health - accidents, arthritis, hospitalizations for

> various

> > minor and major reasons etc. My details are

> > Date of Birth = 27 May 1943

> > Place of Birth = Aligarh (UP)

> > Time of Birth = 8.10 pm

> >

> > Could you tell me ahy all this is happening to me. I am just fed

> up

> > with my sickness. Which planet is affecting my health so much

that

> I

> > can't even pass a few months without doctor? Please help me.

> > Thanks

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

>

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Dear Sushma

I hv just joined this group on the invitation of one the members mr. Prashant

Kumar. I am from VA & JS groups & hv answered many queries to most of the

members.

In ur case ur ill health problem is due to many reasons.

1. U hv kaala saarpa dosha. If u hv not done the shanti for the same pls get it

done asap.

3. U hv exhalted jupiter which is excellent, but in conj with rahu has given a

guru chandal yog.

2. Ur lagna is afflicted with aspect of rahu. mangal & sani.

4. U also get depressed very fast

5. At present u r under shukra maha dasha & shukra in ur horoscope has

responsibility of 7th & 12th house & is placed in 8th house.

Shukra, rahu, sani are the three planets which r giving u ill health. Sani is

giving u problems related to arthiritis, legs & mangal is giving u problems

related to accidents, hospitalization, blood pressure.

U need to do shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal/sani & wear one pearl & yellow

sapphire gemstones. This will solve the problems

 

With Warm Regards

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant

Insurance Advisor

Cell +91 98672 14103

Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

 

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

 

Thursday, 2 October, 2008 5:39:29 PM

Re: Need help about health problem

 

 

Dear Jain Saheb,

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Thanks for analyzing my chart. Could you guide me as how to worship

these three Devtaa. I live in the USA, so I have my own limitations.

Any Mantra or Vrat (fast), or reading some Stotra etc can be viable

for me.

 

I am coming to India for a short visit, if I can do anyhing one time,

I can do it there, but for daily things, only the above things are

good for me.

 

I will be grateful for your guidance.

Thanks, with regards

Sushma

 

, " bskjain55 " <bskjain55@. ...>

wrote:

>

> Namaskaar sushmaji

>

> as per ur horoscope,

> lagna is in naxatra of aflcited mercury whu is retro.

>

> there are sun satrun and retro mercury in 7th house, among them sun

> is not comfortable, in taurs plus it is with inimical satrun.

satrun

> is again with inimical sun. there is parivartana of 7th and 8th

> house mercury and venus.

>

> kendra sthana gives immunity to body, when it is aflicted chances

of

> health problems always remains.

> 4th lord satrun aflicted

> 7th lord venus aflicted by mars

> 10th lord sun aflicted by satrun.

> lagna lord is not aflcited but lagna bhava afected..

>

> basically lagna lagna lord, and karaka for health sun has to be

> cheked. out of 3, 2 are afected.

>

> nadi astrology consider jupiter as jeeva means life or life giver.

> though exalted its with rahu.

>

> there is powerfull aragla of sun satrun and mercury to lagna, as

> well as jupiter and even mars lagna lord. so u recover and often

> fall sick again..

>

> worship to sun and satrun and mars will be beneficial.

>

> bskjain55

> bskjain55@.. .

>

>

>

> -- In , " bhagvatjee "

> <bhagvatjee@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jain Saheb

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > For the last 10 years I have suffering with multiple problems

> > regarding health - accidents, arthritis, hospitalizations for

> various

> > minor and major reasons etc. My details are

> > Date of Birth = 27 May 1943

> > Place of Birth = Aligarh (UP)

> > Time of Birth = 8.10 pm

> >

> > Could you tell me ahy all this is happening to me. I am just fed

> up

> > with my sickness. Which planet is affecting my health so much

that

> I

> > can't even pass a few months without doctor? Please help me.

> > Thanks

> > With regards

> > Sushma

> >

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Haresh Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things about your

remedies ---

(1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart, but if

you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done by a

Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

(2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This means

this also has to be remedied? How?

(3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya. Should

I approach some Pandit to do this?

(4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some specific

weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can I wear

them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

 

Please do reply.

With regards

Susma

 

 

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405 wrote:

>

> Dear Sushma

> I hv just joined this group on the invitation of one the members

mr. Prashant Kumar. I am from VA & JS groups & hv answered many

queries to most of the members.

> In ur case ur ill health problem is due to many reasons.

> 1. U hv kaala saarpa dosha. If u hv not done the shanti for the

same pls get it done asap.

> 3. U hv exhalted jupiter which is excellent, but in conj with rahu

has given a guru chandal yog.

> 2. Ur lagna is afflicted with aspect of rahu. mangal & sani.

> 4. U also get depressed very fast

> 5. At present u r under shukra maha dasha & shukra in ur horoscope

has responsibility of 7th & 12th house & is placed in 8th house.

> Shukra, rahu, sani are the three planets which r giving u ill

health. Sani is giving u problems related to arthiritis, legs &

mangal is giving u problems related to accidents, hospitalization,

blood pressure.

> U need to do shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal/sani & wear one

pearl & yellow sapphire gemstones. This will solve the problems

>  

> With Warm Regards

> Haresh(Harry)Nathani

> Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant

> Insurance Advisor

> Cell +91 98672 14103

> Mumbai,India)

>

>

>

>

> bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

>

> Thursday, 2 October, 2008 5:39:29 PM

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

>

> Dear Jain Saheb,

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> Thanks for analyzing my chart. Could you guide me as how to worship

> these three Devtaa. I live in the USA, so I have my own

limitations.

> Any Mantra or Vrat (fast), or reading some Stotra etc can be viable

> for me.

>

> I am coming to India for a short visit, if I can do anyhing one

time,

> I can do it there, but for daily things, only the above things are

> good for me.

>

> I will be grateful for your guidance.

> Thanks, with regards

> Sushma

>

> , " bskjain55 "

<bskjain55@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar sushmaji

> >

> > as per ur horoscope,

> > lagna is in naxatra of aflcited mercury whu is retro.

> >

> > there are sun satrun and retro mercury in 7th house, among them

sun

> > is not comfortable, in taurs plus it is with inimical satrun.

> satrun

> > is again with inimical sun. there is parivartana of 7th and 8th

> > house mercury and venus.

> >

> > kendra sthana gives immunity to body, when it is aflicted chances

> of

> > health problems always remains.

> > 4th lord satrun aflicted

> > 7th lord venus aflicted by mars

> > 10th lord sun aflicted by satrun.

> > lagna lord is not aflcited but lagna bhava afected..

> >

> > basically lagna lagna lord, and karaka for health sun has to be

> > cheked. out of 3, 2 are afected.

> >

> > nadi astrology consider jupiter as jeeva means life or life

giver.

> > though exalted its with rahu.

> >

> > there is powerfull aragla of sun satrun and mercury to lagna, as

> > well as jupiter and even mars lagna lord. so u recover and often

> > fall sick again..

> >

> > worship to sun and satrun and mars will be beneficial.

> >

> > bskjain55

> > bskjain55@ .

> >

> >

> >

> > -- In , " bhagvatjee "

> > <bhagvatjee@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jain Saheb

> > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > > For the last 10 years I have suffering with multiple problems

> > > regarding health - accidents, arthritis, hospitalizations for

> > various

> > > minor and major reasons etc. My details are

> > > Date of Birth = 27 May 1943

> > > Place of Birth = Aligarh (UP)

> > > Time of Birth = 8.10 pm

> > >

> > > Could you tell me ahy all this is happening to me. I am just

fed

> > up

> > > with my sickness. Which planet is affecting my health so much

> that

> > I

> > > can't even pass a few months without doctor? Please help me.

> > > Thanks

> > > With regards

> > > Sushma

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to

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Dear Susma

All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD prayers takes one

full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will take 4 to 5 hrs for

prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4 ckts. worn in gold ring on a

thursday only. U can also wear it as a locket but in gold only. U need to do

prayers to make it active before u wear it.

 

 

With Warm Regards

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

 

 

 

 

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

 

Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

Re: Need help about health problem

 

 

Dear Haresh Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things about your

remedies ---

(1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart, but if

you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done by a

Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

(2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This means

this also has to be remedied? How?

(3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya. Should

I approach some Pandit to do this?

(4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some specific

weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can I wear

them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

 

Please do reply.

With regards

Susma

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sushma

> I hv just joined this group on the invitation of one the members

mr. Prashant Kumar. I am from VA & JS groups & hv answered many

queries to most of the members.

> In ur case ur ill health problem is due to many reasons.

> 1. U hv kaala saarpa dosha. If u hv not done the shanti for the

same pls get it done asap.

> 3. U hv exhalted jupiter which is excellent, but in conj with rahu

has given a guru chandal yog.

> 2. Ur lagna is afflicted with aspect of rahu. mangal & sani.

> 4. U also get depressed very fast

> 5. At present u r under shukra maha dasha & shukra in ur horoscope

has responsibility of 7th & 12th house & is placed in 8th house.

> Shukra, rahu, sani are the three planets which r giving u ill

health. Sani is giving u problems related to arthiritis, legs &

mangal is giving u problems related to accidents, hospitalization,

blood pressure.

> U need to do shanti yagya for rahu/ketu/mangal/ sani & wear one

pearl & yellow sapphire gemstones. This will solve the problems

>  

> With Warm Regards

> Haresh(Harry) Nathani

> Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant

> Insurance Advisor

> Cell +91 98672 14103

> Mumbai,India)

>

>

>

>

> bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>

>

> Thursday, 2 October, 2008 5:39:29 PM

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

>

> Dear Jain Saheb,

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> Thanks for analyzing my chart. Could you guide me as how to worship

> these three Devtaa. I live in the USA, so I have my own

limitations..

> Any Mantra or Vrat (fast), or reading some Stotra etc can be viable

> for me.

>

> I am coming to India for a short visit, if I can do anyhing one

time,

> I can do it there, but for daily things, only the above things are

> good for me.

>

> I will be grateful for your guidance.

> Thanks, with regards

> Sushma

>

> , " bskjain55 "

<bskjain55@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaskaar sushmaji

> >

> > as per ur horoscope,

> > lagna is in naxatra of aflcited mercury whu is retro.

> >

> > there are sun satrun and retro mercury in 7th house, among them

sun

> > is not comfortable, in taurs plus it is with inimical satrun.

> satrun

> > is again with inimical sun. there is parivartana of 7th and 8th

> > house mercury and venus.

> >

> > kendra sthana gives immunity to body, when it is aflicted chances

> of

> > health problems always remains.

> > 4th lord satrun aflicted

> > 7th lord venus aflicted by mars

> > 10th lord sun aflicted by satrun.

> > lagna lord is not aflcited but lagna bhava afected..

> >

> > basically lagna lagna lord, and karaka for health sun has to be

> > cheked. out of 3, 2 are afected.

> >

> > nadi astrology consider jupiter as jeeva means life or life

giver.

> > though exalted its with rahu.

> >

> > there is powerfull aragla of sun satrun and mercury to lagna, as

> > well as jupiter and even mars lagna lord. so u recover and often

> > fall sick again..

> >

> > worship to sun and satrun and mars will be beneficial.

> >

> > bskjain55

> > bskjain55@ .

> >

> >

> >

> > -- In , " bhagvatjee "

> > <bhagvatjee@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jain Saheb

> > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > > For the last 10 years I have suffering with multiple problems

> > > regarding health - accidents, arthritis, hospitalizations for

> > various

> > > minor and major reasons etc. My details are

> > > Date of Birth = 27 May 1943

> > > Place of Birth = Aligarh (UP)

> > > Time of Birth = 8.10 pm

> > >

> > > Could you tell me ahy all this is happening to me. I am just

fed

> > up

> > > with my sickness. Which planet is affecting my health so much

> that

> > I

> > > can't even pass a few months without doctor? Please help me.

> > > Thanks

> > > With regards

> > > Sushma

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Haresh Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Some more clarification -

(1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body; or

is it not necessary?

(2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it should

be worn?

(3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If gems

can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

pendant?

(4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

Sorry to ask hese questions

With regards

Sushma

 

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405 wrote:

>

> Dear Susma

> All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD prayers

takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as a

locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

before u wear it.

>

>  

> With Warm Regards

> Haresh(Harry)Nathani

>

>

>

>

> bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

>

> Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

>

> Dear Haresh Ji

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things about

your

> remedies ---

> (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart, but if

> you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done by a

> Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

> (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This means

> this also has to be remedied? How?

> (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya.

Should

> I approach some Pandit to do this?

> (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

specific

> weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can I

wear

> them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

>

> Please do reply.

> With regards

> Susma

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Bhagvatjee ( Sushmaji ),

 

Hundreds of astrologers on various Forums have answered

at least a thousand queries for you over the last one year

or more. With every breath you put forth one query.

Hundreds have wasted their precious time,energy and

study, on your chart and never ending enquiries. but

You never seem to get tired of asking about yourself even

at this fag age of Life. Speaks much about the quality

of time spent on family and spiritual pursuits.But

I wll not comment much.

 

I wish to know-hundreds of us have not been able to satisfy

you , and you are always looking for new astrologers

to catch hold of and grab, after you have squeezed off the

last drop from the previous one. Is this fair on you part to

capitalise on free readings so much as to form a disgust and

repulsion whenever your mail arrives ? What credit and

gratitude do you show to those astrologers who have already

replied you, when you jump with a bowl from one to another.

It is a shame that you are simultaneously seen asking answers

in 2-3 Jyotish forums at a time, all round the year.

What time do you get for actually doing remedies when you

are asking about remedies only for 24 hours throughout the day ?

What about those who have already suggested you remedies but

seems thatyou wish some miracle remedy ?

 

Now this poor chap Harish ( Harry ) has got caught in your

net. He will waste his time on you,and when you are finished

with him, you will jump to some other new entrant as soon as

you see a new name here. What credit do you think you will

give to the hardwork of Nathani, when you have repeated your

act 24 shows in a day with new astrologers ?

 

If You have never found any astrologer uptil now to you

satisfaction, then why are you continuing

to waste time of others, and insulting those who have

already replied you ? If you argue that many astrologers

were good, then I ask you, what is the need to ask further.

If you say that they were not good, then what is the guarantee

that you will find Nathani good ? How many more astrologers

are you going to try ? Have you kept some limit or not, for

this ?

 

Please do not insult astrologers and the great Divinse science,

and treat astrologers like " jhooti pattal " .

 

You are collecting curses from hundreds, with every posting on

these forums, know this.

 

Dear Astrologers - She is at the moment also squeezing predictions

from astrologers in the KP Forum. I have been watching her tamasha

for last one year. I am concerned only because I too wasted my time

onher, and her husband, and wish you all to maintain some dignity and

not get drawn in by any sugar coated mails projecting tears and

troubles where there is none. Whenyo reply to such persons , you are

also doing a great disservice tothose colleauges ofyourswho

havelready replied after spending time and energy. Do not expect any

name, fame or even one paise ( Not rupee ), from such persons. It

will not come. Neither will gratitude, for such people do not know

the meaning of gratitude but are glib talkers and know only how to

cast their nets. I and many have already wasted our time over her,

and just wish to warn you not to entertain such people if you have

some respect for yourself, astrology, and your senior astrologers.

 

Bhagvatee urf Sushmaji I ask you, were all those astrologers who

replied you hundreds of times, all idiots ? If not,then why do you

need answers on the same chart again and again ?

 

And you talk so much about spirituality without an ounce of practise.

You have been collecting rinabandhans by the minute with your

despicable act of asking free readings again and again.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " bhagvatjee "

<bhagvatjee wrote:

>

> Dear Haresh Ji

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> Some more clarification -

> (1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

> Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body;

or

> is it not necessary?

> (2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it

should

> be worn?

> (3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If gems

> can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

> pendant?

> (4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

> Sorry to ask hese questions

> With regards

> Sushma

>

>

> , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

> <haresh1405@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Susma

> > All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD

prayers

> takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

> take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

> ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as a

> locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

> before u wear it.

> >

> >  

> > With Warm Regards

> > Haresh(Harry)Nathani

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@>

> >

> > Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

> > Re: Need help about health problem

> >

> >

> > Dear Haresh Ji

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> > Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things about

> your

> > remedies ---

> > (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart, but

if

> > you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done

by a

> > Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

> > (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This means

> > this also has to be remedied? How?

> > (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya.

> Should

> > I approach some Pandit to do this?

> > (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

> specific

> > weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can I

> wear

> > them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

> >

> > Please do reply.

> > With regards

> > Susma

>

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Sushma, Bhaskar,

 

well as i see she is in a Elite company of members like Anil kumar reddy from UK

and Kiran [F] also from UK, Kumar rajiv Ice Maiden etc who keep posting in many

groups as manytimes as possible in this Kumar rajiv who I have been calling him

a spammer for sending 5-6 copies of his question every fortnight.

 

it is v hard to visualise how do these ppl know what they get is the right one

with so many views to read , understand and use them effectively, so impatiant

they r that I doubt they can read all of them do they remember which grops ,

which astrologer gave them a good reading at all they may read it like a RADIO

FM song playing request and forget it as soon as it is played

 

I wish such members wait for the time given by most of the astologers with

patience, respect to astrologers who are doing mostly free service and strangely

I saw a member in VA asking not to beg from beggers 

 

ASTROLOGERS ACCORDING TO HIM are beggers

 

this got a good reply from Sri P V Narshima rao,

 

TRUE ASTROLOGERS ARE BEGGERS AS ALL WE GET HERE IS FREE READING REQUEST FROM

BEGGERS

 

no one respects knowledge, time energy spent by many astrologers who spend time

fo r sheer joy of service incidently PVNji a IIT-CHENNAI  prof in US has

distributed a free astro s/w with max options for a lay man to professional,

contributes a lot of spiritual, religious articles free and yet is faced with

such abuse by ungreatful members a sad sight I must say

 

all we expect a is a feedback good or bad for the subject and the astrologers

too

 

some if in poor state now can surely on their own pay any astologer who has

helped them anytime as longas they know any professional advice is sacred and is

chargable like lawyers, CA, DOCTORS, cosmetics/beauty parlor, psychiatrists,

counsellers, gardners etc

 

 

best wishes

 

prashant

 

I use BV Raman's Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. NONE

OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth

data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in

the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside

the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

 

 

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

Re: Need help about health problem

 

Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:40 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bhagvatjee ( Sushmaji ),

 

 

 

Hundreds of astrologers on various Forums have answered

 

at least a thousand queries for you over the last one year

 

or more. With every breath you put forth one query.

 

Hundreds have wasted their precious time,energy and

 

study, on your chart and never ending enquiries. but

 

You never seem to get tired of asking about yourself even

 

at this fag age of Life. Speaks much about the quality

 

of time spent on family and spiritual pursuits.But

 

I wll not comment much.

 

 

 

I wish to know-hundreds of us have not been able to satisfy

 

you , and you are always looking for new astrologers

 

to catch hold of and grab, after you have squeezed off the

 

last drop from the previous one. Is this fair on you part to

 

capitalise on free readings so much as to form a disgust and

 

repulsion whenever your mail arrives ? What credit and

 

gratitude do you show to those astrologers who have already

 

replied you, when you jump with a bowl from one to another.

 

It is a shame that you are simultaneously seen asking answers

 

in 2-3 Jyotish forums at a time, all round the year.

 

What time do you get for actually doing remedies when you

 

are asking about remedies only for 24 hours throughout the day ?

 

What about those who have already suggested you remedies but

 

seems thatyou wish some miracle remedy ?

 

 

 

Now this poor chap Harish ( Harry ) has got caught in your

 

net. He will waste his time on you,and when you are finished

 

with him, you will jump to some other new entrant as soon as

 

you see a new name here. What credit do you think you will

 

give to the hardwork of Nathani, when you have repeated your

 

act 24 shows in a day with new astrologers ?

 

 

 

If You have never found any astrologer uptil now to you

 

satisfaction, then why are you continuing

 

to waste time of others, and insulting those who have

 

already replied you ? If you argue that many astrologers

 

were good, then I ask you, what is the need to ask further.

 

If you say that they were not good, then what is the guarantee

 

that you will find Nathani good ? How many more astrologers

 

are you going to try ? Have you kept some limit or not, for

 

this ?

 

 

 

Please do not insult astrologers and the great Divinse science,

 

and treat astrologers like " jhooti pattal " .

 

 

 

You are collecting curses from hundreds, with every posting on

 

these forums, know this.

 

 

 

Dear Astrologers - She is at the moment also squeezing predictions

 

from astrologers in the KP Forum. I have been watching her tamasha

 

for last one year. I am concerned only because I too wasted my time

 

onher, and her husband, and wish you all to maintain some dignity and

 

not get drawn in by any sugar coated mails projecting tears and

 

troubles where there is none. Whenyo reply to such persons , you are

 

also doing a great disservice tothose colleauges ofyourswho

 

havelready replied after spending time and energy. Do not expect any

 

name, fame or even one paise ( Not rupee ), from such persons. It

 

will not come. Neither will gratitude, for such people do not know

 

the meaning of gratitude but are glib talkers and know only how to

 

cast their nets. I and many have already wasted our time over her,

 

and just wish to warn you not to entertain such people if you have

 

some respect for yourself, astrology, and your senior astrologers.

 

 

 

Bhagvatee urf Sushmaji I ask you, were all those astrologers who

 

replied you hundreds of times, all idiots ? If not,then why do you

 

need answers on the same chart again and again ?

 

 

 

And you talk so much about spirituality without an ounce of practise.

 

You have been collecting rinabandhans by the minute with your

 

despicable act of asking free readings again and again.

 

 

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " bhagvatjee "

 

<bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Haresh Ji

 

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

 

> Some more clarification -

 

> (1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

 

> Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body;

 

or

 

> is it not necessary?

 

> (2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it

 

should

 

> be worn?

 

> (3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If gems

 

> can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

 

> pendant?

 

> (4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

 

> Sorry to ask hese questions

 

> With regards

 

> Sushma

 

>

 

>

 

> , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

 

> <haresh1405@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Susma

 

> > All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD

 

prayers

 

> takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

 

> take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

 

> ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as a

 

> locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

 

> before u wear it.

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> > With Warm Regards

 

> > Haresh(Harry) Nathani

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ >

 

> >

 

> > Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

 

> > Re: Need help about health problem

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Dear Haresh Ji

 

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

 

> > Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things about

 

> your

 

> > remedies ---

 

> > (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart, but

 

if

 

> > you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done

 

by a

 

> > Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

 

> > (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This means

 

> > this also has to be remedied? How?

 

> > (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya.

 

> Should

 

> > I approach some Pandit to do this?

 

> > (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

 

> specific

 

> > weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can I

 

> wear

 

> > them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

 

> >

 

> > Please do reply.

 

> > With regards

 

> > Susma

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sushma

1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body; or

is it not necessary?

Yes the rays should go in the body, if the gemstone does not touches the body,

because the cut of the gemstone is in such a way that rays should go on the body

(2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it should

be worn?

In the right ring fingure

(3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If gems

can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

pendant?

Pearl should be min 2 ckts. Pearl shold be in silver & pukhraj in gold

(4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

Even u can do it by offering archanna on the rings before wearing.

 

With Warm Regards

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant

Insurance Advisor

Cell +91 98672 14103

Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

 

bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee

 

Tuesday, 7 October, 2008 1:29:04 AM

Re: Need help about health problem

 

 

Dear Haresh Ji

Jaya Siyaa Raam

Some more clarification -

(1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body; or

is it not necessary?

(2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it should

be worn?

(3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If gems

can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

pendant?

(4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

Sorry to ask hese questions

With regards

Sushma

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Susma

> All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD prayers

takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as a

locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

before u wear it.

>

>  

> With Warm Regards

> Haresh(Harry) Nathani

>

>

>

>

> bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ ...>

>

> Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

>

> Dear Haresh Ji

> Jaya Siyaa Raam

> Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things about

your

> remedies ---

> (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart, but if

> you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done by a

> Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

> (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This means

> this also has to be remedied? How?

> (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya..

Should

> I approach some Pandit to do this?

> (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

specific

> weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can I

wear

> them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

>

> Please do reply.

> With regards

> Susma

 

 

 

 

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Dear Prashantji,

 

Thanks for allowing that post on the Forum, and I appreciate your

response which is full of justice,and understanding for those who

have spent their times and energies on thankless persons, who are

seen regularly on these forums asking for more and more. Out of 500

replies given on Forums, I normally receive one Paid response, which

is okay, but what pains me is that some people are absolute rude and

heartless when you stop giving them continous free services. You know

I have already been at the receiving end in this Forum too, in the

past from persosn whom i stopped catering for their everyday queries.

 

God knows what is the world getting to. We are expected to become

better and maturer by the day, but ' Asking and grabbing for free "

sems to be the Order of the day. They will argue that we are not

bound to answer them and can ignore their queries, but my argument

would be, that i will not stop giving for free, if you remain in Your

limits and ask only genuine important queries and keep it closed at

that.

 

I feel sad at your state and my state and all those like us, who have

given more than they have recieved, and yet been subject to ridicule

and humiliation many times from those enquirers to who we have

stopped servicing because of their unending relentless queries.

 

Just try asking Rs.10000- in your bad times, from those whom you have

answered for free, and I assure you, that none would be there on the

scene to pay you even a single Rs.100- note too.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Sushma, Bhaskar,

>

> well as i see she is in a Elite company of members like Anil kumar

reddy from UK and Kiran [F] also from UK, Kumar rajiv Ice Maiden etc

who keep posting in many groups as manytimes as possible in this

Kumar rajiv who I have been calling him a spammer for sending 5-6

copies of his question every fortnight.

>

> it is v hard to visualise how do these ppl know what they get is

the right one with so many views to read , understand and use them

effectively, so impatiant they r that I doubt they can read all of

them do they remember which grops , which astrologer gave them a good

reading at all they may read it like a RADIO FM song playing request

and forget it as soon as it is played

>

> I wish such members wait for the time given by most of the

astologers with patience, respect to astrologers who are doing mostly

free service and strangely I saw a member in VA asking not to beg

from beggers 

>

> ASTROLOGERS ACCORDING TO HIM are beggers

>

> this got a good reply from Sri P V Narshima rao,

>

> TRUE ASTROLOGERS ARE BEGGERS AS ALL WE GET HERE IS FREE READING

REQUEST FROM BEGGERS

>

> no one respects knowledge, time energy spent by many astrologers

who spend time fo r sheer joy of service incidently PVNji a IIT-

CHENNAI  prof in US has distributed a free astro s/w with max options

for a lay man to professional, contributes a lot of spiritual,

religious articles free and yet is faced with such abuse by

ungreatful members a sad sight I must say

>

> all we expect a is a feedback good or bad for the subject and the

astrologers too

>

> some if in poor state now can surely on their own pay any astologer

who has helped them anytime as longas they know any professional

advice is sacred and is chargable like lawyers, CA, DOCTORS,

cosmetics/beauty parlor, psychiatrists, counsellers, gardners etc

>

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant

>

> I use BV Raman's Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

>

> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

> Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:40 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Bhagvatjee ( Sushmaji ),

>

>

>

> Hundreds of astrologers on various Forums have answered

>

> at least a thousand queries for you over the last one year

>

> or more. With every breath you put forth one query.

>

> Hundreds have wasted their precious time,energy and

>

> study, on your chart and never ending enquiries. but

>

> You never seem to get tired of asking about yourself even

>

> at this fag age of Life. Speaks much about the quality

>

> of time spent on family and spiritual pursuits.But

>

> I wll not comment much.

>

>

>

> I wish to know-hundreds of us have not been able to satisfy

>

> you , and you are always looking for new astrologers

>

> to catch hold of and grab, after you have squeezed off the

>

> last drop from the previous one. Is this fair on you part to

>

> capitalise on free readings so much as to form a disgust and

>

> repulsion whenever your mail arrives ? What credit and

>

> gratitude do you show to those astrologers who have already

>

> replied you, when you jump with a bowl from one to another.

>

> It is a shame that you are simultaneously seen asking answers

>

> in 2-3 Jyotish forums at a time, all round the year.

>

> What time do you get for actually doing remedies when you

>

> are asking about remedies only for 24 hours throughout the day ?

>

> What about those who have already suggested you remedies but

>

> seems thatyou wish some miracle remedy ?

>

>

>

> Now this poor chap Harish ( Harry ) has got caught in your

>

> net. He will waste his time on you,and when you are finished

>

> with him, you will jump to some other new entrant as soon as

>

> you see a new name here. What credit do you think you will

>

> give to the hardwork of Nathani, when you have repeated your

>

> act 24 shows in a day with new astrologers ?

>

>

>

> If You have never found any astrologer uptil now to you

>

> satisfaction, then why are you continuing

>

> to waste time of others, and insulting those who have

>

> already replied you ? If you argue that many astrologers

>

> were good, then I ask you, what is the need to ask further.

>

> If you say that they were not good, then what is the guarantee

>

> that you will find Nathani good ? How many more astrologers

>

> are you going to try ? Have you kept some limit or not, for

>

> this ?

>

>

>

> Please do not insult astrologers and the great Divinse science,

>

> and treat astrologers like " jhooti pattal " .

>

>

>

> You are collecting curses from hundreds, with every posting on

>

> these forums, know this.

>

>

>

> Dear Astrologers - She is at the moment also squeezing predictions

>

> from astrologers in the KP Forum. I have been watching her tamasha

>

> for last one year. I am concerned only because I too wasted my

time

>

> onher, and her husband, and wish you all to maintain some dignity

and

>

> not get drawn in by any sugar coated mails projecting tears and

>

> troubles where there is none. Whenyo reply to such persons , you

are

>

> also doing a great disservice tothose colleauges ofyourswho

>

> havelready replied after spending time and energy. Do not expect

any

>

> name, fame or even one paise ( Not rupee ), from such persons. It

>

> will not come. Neither will gratitude, for such people do not know

>

> the meaning of gratitude but are glib talkers and know only how to

>

> cast their nets. I and many have already wasted our time over her,

>

> and just wish to warn you not to entertain such people if you have

>

> some respect for yourself, astrology, and your senior astrologers.

>

>

>

> Bhagvatee urf Sushmaji I ask you, were all those astrologers who

>

> replied you hundreds of times, all idiots ? If not,then why do you

>

> need answers on the same chart again and again ?

>

>

>

> And you talk so much about spirituality without an ounce of

practise.

>

> You have been collecting rinabandhans by the minute with your

>

> despicable act of asking free readings again and again.

>

>

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " bhagvatjee "

>

> <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Haresh Ji

>

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

>

> > Some more clarification -

>

> > (1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

>

> > Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body;

>

> or

>

> > is it not necessary?

>

> > (2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it

>

> should

>

> > be worn?

>

> > (3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If

gems

>

> > can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

>

> > pendant?

>

> > (4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

>

> > Sorry to ask hese questions

>

> > With regards

>

> > Sushma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > , " Haresh \(Harry\)

Nathani "

>

> > <haresh1405@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Susma

>

> > > All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD

>

> prayers

>

> > takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

>

> > take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

>

> > ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as

a

>

> > locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

>

> > before u wear it.

>

> > >

>

> > >  

>

> > > With Warm Regards

>

> > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ >

>

> > >

>

> > > Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

>

> > > Re: Need help about health problem

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Haresh Ji

>

> > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

>

> > > Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things

about

>

> > your

>

> > > remedies ---

>

> > > (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart,

but

>

> if

>

> > > you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done

>

> by a

>

> > > Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

>

> > > (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This

means

>

> > > this also has to be remedied? How?

>

> > > (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya.

>

> > Should

>

> > > I approach some Pandit to do this?

>

> > > (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

>

> > specific

>

> > > weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can

I

>

> > wear

>

> > > them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

>

> > >

>

> > > Please do reply.

>

> > > With regards

>

> > > Susma

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Dear Bhaskar, members,

 

well this is a break from my plank that all non jyotish content and personal

slants be best avoided and restricted to private space.

 

but as a exception as this concerns the practitioners of astrology and this

needs some respect apart from patronage too

 

in good old days kings, rich zamindars, households, village or communities took

care of all human resources-like doctors, priests, astrologers etc. and now as

life is expensive for everyone without some support from members seeking a

professional advice like in the case of lawyers, doctors, carpenters, painters,

gardners etc all work to support a family, astrologers work to support many

familes in trouble

 

they do cover most other professionals too. with to sustain themselves thus the

science.

 

here I wish members do take note and do the needful

 

and there r members who like to try as many groups for free and as said they can

never tell which one is the ones that have a clear direction for them it is like

a needle in a haystack

 

so members post with a purpouse wait fir its turn to happen or fail and repost

again. just spamming groups will deprive time for other fellow beings who need

attention, guidence as well

 

thanks'

 

 

prashant

 

 

I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

 

 

 

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Tuesday, October 7, 2008 3:47:19 PM

Re: Need help about health problem

 

 

Dear Prashantji,

 

Thanks for allowing that post on the Forum, and I appreciate your

response which is full of justice,and understanding for those who

have spent their times and energies on thankless persons, who are

seen regularly on these forums asking for more and more. Out of 500

replies given on Forums, I normally receive one Paid response, which

is okay, but what pains me is that some people are absolute rude and

heartless when you stop giving them continous free services. You know

I have already been at the receiving end in this Forum too, in the

past from persosn whom i stopped catering for their everyday queries.

 

God knows what is the world getting to. We are expected to become

better and maturer by the day, but ' Asking and grabbing for free "

sems to be the Order of the day. They will argue that we are not

bound to answer them and can ignore their queries, but my argument

would be, that i will not stop giving for free, if you remain in Your

limits and ask only genuine important queries and keep it closed at

that.

 

I feel sad at your state and my state and all those like us, who have

given more than they have recieved, and yet been subject to ridicule

and humiliation many times from those enquirers to who we have

stopped servicing because of their unending relentless queries.

 

Just try asking Rs.10000- in your bad times, from those whom you have

answered for free, and I assure you, that none would be there on the

scene to pay you even a single Rs.100- note too.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Sushma, Bhaskar,

>

> well as i see she is in a Elite company of members like Anil kumar

reddy from UK and Kiran [F] also from UK, Kumar rajiv Ice Maiden etc

who keep posting in many groups as manytimes as possible in this

Kumar rajiv who I have been calling him a spammer for sending 5-6

copies of his question every fortnight.

>

> it is v hard to visualise how do these ppl know what they get is

the right one with so many views to read , understand and use them

effectively, so impatiant they r that I doubt they can read all of

them do they remember which grops , which astrologer gave them a good

reading at all they may read it like a RADIO FM song playing request

and forget it as soon as it is played

>

> I wish such members wait for the time given by most of the

astologers with patience, respect to astrologers who are doing mostly

free service and strangely I saw a member in VA asking not to beg

from beggers

>

> ASTROLOGERS ACCORDING TO HIM are beggers

>

> this got a good reply from Sri P V Narshima rao,

>

> TRUE ASTROLOGERS ARE BEGGERS AS ALL WE GET HERE IS FREE READING

REQUEST FROM BEGGERS

>

> no one respects knowledge, time energy spent by many astrologers

who spend time fo r sheer joy of service incidently PVNji a IIT-

CHENNAI prof in US has distributed a free astro s/w with max options

for a lay man to professional, contributes a lot of spiritual,

religious articles free and yet is faced with such abuse by

ungreatful members a sad sight I must say

>

> all we expect a is a feedback good or bad for the subject and the

astrologers too

>

> some if in poor state now can surely on their own pay any astologer

who has helped them anytime as longas they know any professional

advice is sacred and is chargable like lawyers, CA, DOCTORS,

cosmetics/beauty parlor, psychiatrists, counsellers, gardners etc

>

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant

>

> I use BV Raman's Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

>

> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

> Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:40 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Bhagvatjee ( Sushmaji ),

>

>

>

> Hundreds of astrologers on various Forums have answered

>

> at least a thousand queries for you over the last one year

>

> or more. With every breath you put forth one query.

>

> Hundreds have wasted their precious time,energy and

>

> study, on your chart and never ending enquiries. but

>

> You never seem to get tired of asking about yourself even

>

> at this fag age of Life. Speaks much about the quality

>

> of time spent on family and spiritual pursuits.But

>

> I wll not comment much.

>

>

>

> I wish to know-hundreds of us have not been able to satisfy

>

> you , and you are always looking for new astrologers

>

> to catch hold of and grab, after you have squeezed off the

>

> last drop from the previous one. Is this fair on you part to

>

> capitalise on free readings so much as to form a disgust and

>

> repulsion whenever your mail arrives ? What credit and

>

> gratitude do you show to those astrologers who have already

>

> replied you, when you jump with a bowl from one to another.

>

> It is a shame that you are simultaneously seen asking answers

>

> in 2-3 Jyotish forums at a time, all round the year.

>

> What time do you get for actually doing remedies when you

>

> are asking about remedies only for 24 hours throughout the day ?

>

> What about those who have already suggested you remedies but

>

> seems thatyou wish some miracle remedy ?

>

>

>

> Now this poor chap Harish ( Harry ) has got caught in your

>

> net. He will waste his time on you,and when you are finished

>

> with him, you will jump to some other new entrant as soon as

>

> you see a new name here. What credit do you think you will

>

> give to the hardwork of Nathani, when you have repeated your

>

> act 24 shows in a day with new astrologers ?

>

>

>

> If You have never found any astrologer uptil now to you

>

> satisfaction, then why are you continuing

>

> to waste time of others, and insulting those who have

>

> already replied you ? If you argue that many astrologers

>

> were good, then I ask you, what is the need to ask further.

>

> If you say that they were not good, then what is the guarantee

>

> that you will find Nathani good ? How many more astrologers

>

> are you going to try ? Have you kept some limit or not, for

>

> this ?

>

>

>

> Please do not insult astrologers and the great Divinse science,

>

> and treat astrologers like " jhooti pattal " .

>

>

>

> You are collecting curses from hundreds, with every posting on

>

> these forums, know this.

>

>

>

> Dear Astrologers - She is at the moment also squeezing predictions

>

> from astrologers in the KP Forum. I have been watching her tamasha

>

> for last one year. I am concerned only because I too wasted my

time

>

> onher, and her husband, and wish you all to maintain some dignity

and

>

> not get drawn in by any sugar coated mails projecting tears and

>

> troubles where there is none. Whenyo reply to such persons , you

are

>

> also doing a great disservice tothose colleauges ofyourswho

>

> havelready replied after spending time and energy. Do not expect

any

>

> name, fame or even one paise ( Not rupee ), from such persons. It

>

> will not come. Neither will gratitude, for such people do not know

>

> the meaning of gratitude but are glib talkers and know only how to

>

> cast their nets. I and many have already wasted our time over her,

>

> and just wish to warn you not to entertain such people if you have

>

> some respect for yourself, astrology, and your senior astrologers.

>

>

>

> Bhagvatee urf Sushmaji I ask you, were all those astrologers who

>

> replied you hundreds of times, all idiots ? If not,then why do you

>

> need answers on the same chart again and again ?

>

>

>

> And you talk so much about spirituality without an ounce of

practise.

>

> You have been collecting rinabandhans by the minute with your

>

> despicable act of asking free readings again and again.

>

>

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , " bhagvatjee "

>

> <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Haresh Ji

>

> > Jaya Siyaa Raam

>

> > Some more clarification -

>

> > (1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

>

> > Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body;

>

> or

>

> > is it not necessary?

>

> > (2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it

>

> should

>

> > be worn?

>

> > (3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If

gems

>

> > can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

>

> > pendant?

>

> > (4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

>

> > Sorry to ask hese questions

>

> > With regards

>

> > Sushma

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > , " Haresh \(Harry\)

Nathani "

>

> > <haresh1405@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Susma

>

> > > All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD

>

> prayers

>

> > takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

>

> > take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

>

> > ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as

a

>

> > locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

>

> > before u wear it.

>

> > >

>

> > > Â

>

> > > With Warm Regards

>

> > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ >

>

> > >

>

> > > Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

>

> > > Re: Need help about health problem

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Haresh Ji

>

> > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

>

> > > Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things

about

>

> > your

>

> > > remedies ---

>

> > > (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart,

but

>

> if

>

> > > you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done

>

> by a

>

> > > Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

>

> > > (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This

means

>

> > > this also has to be remedied? How?

>

> > > (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya.

>

> > Should

>

> > > I approach some Pandit to do this?

>

> > > (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

>

> > specific

>

> > > weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can

I

>

> > wear

>

> > > them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

>

> > >

>

> > > Please do reply.

>

> > > With regards

>

> > > Susma

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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Thanks Haresh Ji

I searched the Internet, and I could not find any pearl by carats,

they all are by the size of their diameter - 7 mm or 8 mm etc. So how

large should it be? And in which finger this ring should be worn? I

think since pearl belongs to Moon, it can be worn on Monday after

doing Archana?

With regards

Sushma

 

, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani "

<haresh1405 wrote:

>

> Dear Sushma

> 1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

> Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body;

or

> is it not necessary?

> Yes the rays should go in the body, if the gemstone does not

touches the body, because the cut of the gemstone is in such a way

that rays should go on the body

> (2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it

should

> be worn?

> In the right ring fingure

> (3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If gems

> can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

> pendant?

> Pearl should be min 2 ckts. Pearl shold be in silver & pukhraj in

gold

> (4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

> Even u can do it by offering archanna on the rings before wearing.

>  

> With Warm Regards

> Haresh(Harry)Nathani

> Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant

> Insurance Advisor

> Cell +91 98672 14103

> Mumbai,India)

>

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Dear Prashantji,

 

I know this is connected to astrologers, and you will allow this, which

is why I took the pains to post it, otherwise I would not have sent any

mail here to target any one personally, and put you to trouble or "

Dharma sankat " .

 

You may not be aware but Sushmajis husband also posted me a mail and

asked me to do study on 7 Horoscopes of his family, saying that it would

be a good topic for research for me. He was asking me to do this

research work for free, and did not offer me a single rupee. He thought

that I will fall in his trap and give him further free readings as I

have given his wife, but I saw through their malefic intentions and

saved myself by excusing , with some excuse.

 

I also mentioned clearly my stand, that I do not have time to do this,

then he replied, trying to impress me writing that he has got many good

contacts in his country ( Canada , I think ), and he knew many people

who were looking for a good astrologer. He thought that by saying this

he will attract me and tempt me to do further free readings for him, but

I know the class of such persons, and did not fall prey to his dirty

manevoure and plan of squeezing readings for his whole family.

 

Such people spoil the name of Indians wherever they will stay, because

they must be doing these same " harkat " of asking for free and eating

for free and drinking for free like parasites, wherever they will stay.

 

They will not change their dirty habits till their last breath as we can

see, at the age of 65-70 also, instead of doing Pooja and attending to

her husband and children , Sushma ji is spending 24 hours in taking her

bowl and roaming all about , begging for free predictions wherever she

can get.

 

No wonder, we can nderstand what sanskaar she must have given her

daughter, who must have spilt her marriued life with the teachings given

to her by this lady, who has got no moral ethics in Life, and a Father

who has got no sense of responsibility who also acts like a commission

agent ( Dalaal) for his wife, sorry to say this.

 

We astrologers must unite and expose more of their tribe, to make out

forums a beter place, and also to save our time and energies in replying

to hoodlums with white collars.

 

I received at least 6 mails from her husband trying to squeeze

predictions from me, I am sorry to say this.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar, members,

>

> well this is a break from my plank that all non jyotish content and

personal slants be best avoided and restricted to private space.

>

> but as a exception as this concerns the practitioners of astrology and

this needs some respect apart from patronage too

>

> in good old days kings, rich zamindars, households, village or

communities took care of all human resources-like doctors, priests,

astrologers etc. and now as life is expensive for everyone without some

support from members seeking a professional advice like in the case of

lawyers, doctors, carpenters, painters, gardners etc all work to support

a family, astrologers work to support many familes in trouble

>

> they do cover most other professionals too. with to sustain themselves

thus the science.

>

> here I wish members do take note and do the needful

>

> and there r members who like to try as many groups for free and as

said they can never tell which one is the ones that have a clear

direction for them it is like a needle in a haystack

>

> so members post with a purpouse wait fir its turn to happen or fail

and repost again. just spamming groups will deprive time for other

fellow beings who need attention, guidence as well

>

> thanks'

>

>

> prashant

>

>

> I use BV Raman & #39;s Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman & #39;s. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one

or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID

are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B

Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

>

>

>

>

> Bhaskar rajiventerprises

>

> Tuesday, October 7, 2008 3:47:19 PM

> Re: Need help about health problem

>

>

> Dear Prashantji,

>

> Thanks for allowing that post on the Forum, and I appreciate your

> response which is full of justice,and understanding for those who

> have spent their times and energies on thankless persons, who are

> seen regularly on these forums asking for more and more. Out of 500

> replies given on Forums, I normally receive one Paid response, which

> is okay, but what pains me is that some people are absolute rude and

> heartless when you stop giving them continous free services. You know

> I have already been at the receiving end in this Forum too, in the

> past from persosn whom i stopped catering for their everyday queries.

>

> God knows what is the world getting to. We are expected to become

> better and maturer by the day, but ' Asking and grabbing for free "

> sems to be the Order of the day. They will argue that we are not

> bound to answer them and can ignore their queries, but my argument

> would be, that i will not stop giving for free, if you remain in Your

> limits and ask only genuine important queries and keep it closed at

> that.

>

> I feel sad at your state and my state and all those like us, who have

> given more than they have recieved, and yet been subject to ridicule

> and humiliation many times from those enquirers to who we have

> stopped servicing because of their unending relentless queries.

>

> Just try asking Rs.10000- in your bad times, from those whom you have

> answered for free, and I assure you, that none would be there on the

> scene to pay you even a single Rs.100- note too.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Sushma, Bhaskar,

> >

> > well as i see she is in a Elite company of members like Anil kumar

> reddy from UK and Kiran [F] also from UK, Kumar rajiv Ice Maiden etc

> who keep posting in many groups as manytimes as possible in this

> Kumar rajiv who I have been calling him a spammer for sending 5-6

> copies of his question every fortnight.

> >

> > it is v hard to visualise how do these ppl know what they get is

> the right one with so many views to read , understand and use them

> effectively, so impatiant they r that I doubt they can read all of

> them do they remember which grops , which astrologer gave them a good

> reading at all they may read it like a RADIO FM song playing request

> and forget it as soon as it is played

> >

> > I wish such members wait for the time given by most of the

> astologers with patience, respect to astrologers who are doing mostly

> free service and strangely I saw a member in VA asking not to beg

> from beggers

> >

> > ASTROLOGERS ACCORDING TO HIM are beggers

> >

> > this got a good reply from Sri P V Narshima rao,

> >

> > TRUE ASTROLOGERS ARE BEGGERS AS ALL WE GET HERE IS FREE READING

> REQUEST FROM BEGGERS

> >

> > no one respects knowledge, time energy spent by many astrologers

> who spend time fo r sheer joy of service incidently PVNji a IIT-

> CHENNAI prof in US has distributed a free astro s/w with max options

> for a lay man to professional, contributes a lot of spiritual,

> religious articles free and yet is faced with such abuse by

> ungreatful members a sad sight I must say

> >

> > all we expect a is a feedback good or bad for the subject and the

> astrologers too

> >

> > some if in poor state now can surely on their own pay any astologer

> who has helped them anytime as longas they know any professional

> advice is sacred and is chargable like lawyers, CA, DOCTORS,

> cosmetics/beauty parlor, psychiatrists, counsellers, gardners etc

> >

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > prashant

> >

> > I use BV Raman's Ayanamsa=Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

> Raman's. NONE OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

> posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

> provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

> Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

> to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

> for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

> >

> > --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:

> > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>

> > Re: Need help about health problem

> >

> > Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:40 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Bhagvatjee ( Sushmaji ),

> >

> >

> >

> > Hundreds of astrologers on various Forums have answered

> >

> > at least a thousand queries for you over the last one year

> >

> > or more. With every breath you put forth one query.

> >

> > Hundreds have wasted their precious time,energy and

> >

> > study, on your chart and never ending enquiries. but

> >

> > You never seem to get tired of asking about yourself even

> >

> > at this fag age of Life. Speaks much about the quality

> >

> > of time spent on family and spiritual pursuits.But

> >

> > I wll not comment much.

> >

> >

> >

> > I wish to know-hundreds of us have not been able to satisfy

> >

> > you , and you are always looking for new astrologers

> >

> > to catch hold of and grab, after you have squeezed off the

> >

> > last drop from the previous one. Is this fair on you part to

> >

> > capitalise on free readings so much as to form a disgust and

> >

> > repulsion whenever your mail arrives ? What credit and

> >

> > gratitude do you show to those astrologers who have already

> >

> > replied you, when you jump with a bowl from one to another.

> >

> > It is a shame that you are simultaneously seen asking answers

> >

> > in 2-3 Jyotish forums at a time, all round the year.

> >

> > What time do you get for actually doing remedies when you

> >

> > are asking about remedies only for 24 hours throughout the day ?

> >

> > What about those who have already suggested you remedies but

> >

> > seems thatyou wish some miracle remedy ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Now this poor chap Harish ( Harry ) has got caught in your

> >

> > net. He will waste his time on you,and when you are finished

> >

> > with him, you will jump to some other new entrant as soon as

> >

> > you see a new name here. What credit do you think you will

> >

> > give to the hardwork of Nathani, when you have repeated your

> >

> > act 24 shows in a day with new astrologers ?

> >

> >

> >

> > If You have never found any astrologer uptil now to you

> >

> > satisfaction, then why are you continuing

> >

> > to waste time of others, and insulting those who have

> >

> > already replied you ? If you argue that many astrologers

> >

> > were good, then I ask you, what is the need to ask further.

> >

> > If you say that they were not good, then what is the guarantee

> >

> > that you will find Nathani good ? How many more astrologers

> >

> > are you going to try ? Have you kept some limit or not, for

> >

> > this ?

> >

> >

> >

> > Please do not insult astrologers and the great Divinse science,

> >

> > and treat astrologers like " jhooti pattal " .

> >

> >

> >

> > You are collecting curses from hundreds, with every posting on

> >

> > these forums, know this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Astrologers - She is at the moment also squeezing predictions

> >

> > from astrologers in the KP Forum. I have been watching her tamasha

> >

> > for last one year. I am concerned only because I too wasted my

> time

> >

> > onher, and her husband, and wish you all to maintain some dignity

> and

> >

> > not get drawn in by any sugar coated mails projecting tears and

> >

> > troubles where there is none. Whenyo reply to such persons , you

> are

> >

> > also doing a great disservice tothose colleauges ofyourswho

> >

> > havelready replied after spending time and energy. Do not expect

> any

> >

> > name, fame or even one paise ( Not rupee ), from such persons. It

> >

> > will not come. Neither will gratitude, for such people do not know

> >

> > the meaning of gratitude but are glib talkers and know only how to

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> > cast their nets. I and many have already wasted our time over her,

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> > and just wish to warn you not to entertain such people if you have

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> > some respect for yourself, astrology, and your senior astrologers.

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> > Bhagvatee urf Sushmaji I ask you, were all those astrologers who

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> > replied you hundreds of times, all idiots ? If not,then why do you

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> > need answers on the same chart again and again ?

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> > And you talk so much about spirituality without an ounce of

> practise.

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> > You have been collecting rinabandhans by the minute with your

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> > despicable act of asking free readings again and again.

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> > Bhaskar.

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> > , " bhagvatjee "

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> > <bhagvatjee@ ...> wrote:

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> > > Dear Haresh Ji

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> > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> >

> > > Some more clarification -

> >

> > > (1) I have heard that all the gem stones which are worn to pacify

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> > > Graha should touch the body, so how a pendant can touch the body;

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> > or

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> > > is it not necessary?

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> > > (2) If the Pukharaj is to be worn as a ring in which finger it

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> > should

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> > > be worn?

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> > > (3) How big or weighty should be the pearl? or any weight? If

> gems

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> > > can be worn in pendant then can I set both of these gems in one

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> > > pendant?

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> > > (4) Will the prayers for the gems be done by a Pandit also?

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> > > Sorry to ask hese questions

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> > > With regards

> >

> > > Sushma

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> > >

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> > >

> >

> > > , " Haresh \(Harry\)

> Nathani "

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> > > <haresh1405@ > wrote:

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> > > >

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> > > > Dear Susma

> >

> > > > All the prayers are to be done with the help of pandit. KSD

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> > prayers

> >

> > > takes one full day to do the prayers. The other dosha shanti will

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> > > take 4 to 5 hrs for prayers.. Yellow sapphire should be atleast 4

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> > > ckts. worn in gold ring on a thursday only. U can also wear it as

> a

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> > > locket but in gold only. U need to do prayers to make it active

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> > > before u wear it.

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> > > >

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> > > > Â

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> > > > With Warm Regards

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> > > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani

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> > > > bhagvatjee <bhagvatjee@ >

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> > > > Saturday, 4 October, 2008 7:07:26 PM

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> > > > Re: Need help about health problem

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> > > >

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> > > >

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> > > > Dear Haresh Ji

> >

> > > > Jaya Siyaa Raam

> >

> > > > Thanks for replying my letter. I wish to know a few things

> about

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> > > your

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> > > > remedies ---

> >

> > > > (1) Nobody has told me that I have Kaal Sarp Yog in my chart,

> but

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> > if

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> > > > you say so I will do so. How will it be done. Should it be done

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> > by a

> >

> > > > Pandit, or can it be done according to Lal Kitab also?

> >

> > > > (2) Nobody has told me about the Guru Chandal yog also. This

> means

> >

> > > > this also has to be remedied? How?

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> > > > (3) I have to do Raahu, Mangal, Ketu, and Shani Shaanti Yagya.

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> > > Should

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> > > > I approach some Pandit to do this?

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> > > > (4) One pearl and yellow Pukharaaj - do they have to be some

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> > > specific

> >

> > > > weight, worn on specific day, after some specific rituals? Can

> I

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> > > wear

> >

> > > > them in a pendant? Or how specifically they should be worn?

> >

> > > >

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> > > > Please do reply.

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> > > > With regards

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> > > > Susma

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The discussions have become very hot and everybody enters here for free and

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via. phone/mobile and some other communication, but should not be replied in the

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