Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Giou, it is said u don;t read the material before hand and u r passing judgments on me, the owner etc, pl re-read my posts Pt R dakshinamurthy ji episode many have suppored me too v strongly he DID NOT DESERVE such treatment and Lalit has even abused me TOO like all others who defended him pl visit VA and refresh ur memory in the post that u refer to now it was only against sunil who felt we r all not worth sharing his rich experience with hard work he has put in+ SAYS he feels teasing , taunting members is a 3-4 min job, but posting materials is 3-4 hr work [the mediocore is a summery of what he feels about all of us here not my view. pl see how many appeals I made to him to ignore lalit , and addsress what he has found to the group and share it he calls others work rubbish when he is not posting anything. other abusing others. later with GIRISH what did he do, if u say Lalit did this and that to all of s girish did not bother anyone he was treated with contempt by sunil in his mails he says he can't teach .... pl see them even there i appealed to him to address it to group in both cases he has said in group and in chats he likes teasing , taunting members is this what a group is for and this is not what he does in AIA a few have clearly said they want thir groups to survive and destroy others a clear pattern is there how they destroyed peace all over and now suddenly look like saints I HAVE ALSO SAID I DISAGREE WITH LALIT'S SO CALLED DIVNE POWER's and have not pased a SINGLE post in such line as this is not Jyotish , read the post of y'day again such powers need forums for it and may be part of int not jyotish forums. I have given Sri PVN ji;s view of lalit a chance that is all if he reforms , he appread to be refored here till sunil , sreeram srinivas started needling him so may be it is areaction or may be it is an unchanged lalit not my job to judge him I AM JUDJING THE POSTS by astro content and sending it from anyone I HAVE ALSO APOLOGIES and said I did not mean to say members participating are mediocore no way the line i said is clear enogh " if learned members like sri vattem krishna ji, rafel ji, a v pathi, bala etc can contibute without [worrying about lalit ] what prevents the super experts as they claim to be so pl read my posts again and get back i once again restate this is only for the ones who feel they r holier than others we are all being classified as different or not of their status is my point no offense meant to the learned members here i also appreciated sri vattem krishana ji, rafel ji who have understood the mail better and are contributig as usual they r real nuteral and hard wordking good souls around who lend light to many dark lives in jyotish forums and I am not worried about the trouble makers Prashant K Gopu <kgopu_24 Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:11:20 AM Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9 dear sri pathi, sorry to enter into this controversy. I am giving my observations. I have observed Mr.Lalith who claims he has acquired divine powers thro Mata and that he is in a position to converse with Goddess Mata. In the last 18mths whichever fourm he has participated, he has created enough problems. Classsical examples are he was totally resposnsible for the exit of Pandit Dakshinamurthy from Vedic astrology and Jyotish remedies. He has quarelled with Bhagavathiji aand sushi dixit of vedic_astrology classes forum. he has quarelled with all the moderators of Ancient India Astrology group. Yet he keeps claiming that he can stop terror activities in India with his divine powers, he claims that rape incidence has come down in Delhi because of his constant prayers. So u can have ur own assesement abt Mr.Lalith. It is quite unacceptable and very unpalatable that Shri Prashant (moderator) to pass such remarks like mediocre astrologers. I dont think the owner of the grroup Sri>Tanveer has permitted him to make assessment of members in regards to their knowledge in astrology. At this juncture it is better Mr.Prashsant tenders an apology and assures he doesnt come out such rash statements. good wishes, k.gopu --- On Fri, 9/19/08, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav > Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9 Friday, September 19, 2008, 4:26 PM Dear Mr.Prashant Kumar: How do you say that participants are 'mediocre' and those 'watching' the 'progress' are 'super experts'? What is your 'standard in measuring them of abilities in Astrology on either side of the 'fence' you had created as 'Laxman Reka'? Do you think you can talk anything you like in a forum? Who are you to measure one for his profess in the subject? How do you expect everyone to participate the debates on 'threads'? Do you think that they have NO other priorities? " .....mediocre astrologers r posting , debating, discussing something or other and the so called super experts feel below their dignity, knowledge to participate in such threads..... . " Your expression as well as your language is far below standards expected in any forum. When some give you 'respect' try to 'deserve' that respect. Do not talk rubbish. I consider that you have insulted all members in this forum. A.V.Pathi Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Friday, September 19, 2008 3:25:56 AM Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9 Dear Srinivas Murthy, Adavi, it has been a long time since we saw a post from u, I hope u will continue to to around it is also good that mediocre astrologers r posting , debating, discussing something or other and the so called super experts feel below their dignity, knowledge to participate in such threads. and only show up from time to time to show that all of us r mediocre and don't deserve their valuable wisdom I hope u don't belong to such elite clubs? thansk prashant srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 (AT) sify (DOT) com> Friday, September 19, 2008 12:08:35 PM Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 Dear Girishji, Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? srinivas Quoting bursar_99 : > Dear Shri Girish, Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish vrkishnan with regards --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in> wrote: girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in> Re: nadi dosh 16/9 Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM Respected Prashant ji, In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers if : [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet is lord of rasi in both charts. [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra are different. [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river by the couple after the marriage [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with Saligram first and then with the groom. Regards, Girish Raheja , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Girish > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the novices here. > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other learned members will dwell on this > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to nakshatras involved > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal way > > thanks > > prashant > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from you > at least. > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided between > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and > i dont > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > memebrs > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > reality > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > understand > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > teach him > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > let me > > know which one u r referring to > > > ,,.. for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > ---- > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > then ask > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, > he > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > cover > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they > will > > look for answers > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in > the > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain > as > > well > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > the > > areas > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > happeneing > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > person > > ,so > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > combines > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even > i > > find > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > it ,yogies > > were > > > using it ) > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > whole ,here > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > miserable > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > for is > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not > want > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > remedies > > ,for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > ships and > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > > birth > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > hav no > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > less > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > uses . > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > teach > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > matchting > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > and > > what > > > they taught us . > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > bursar_99@ > > ..> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > each > > pada > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > scripts > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > > natives > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > with an > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > > factor > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > following > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > minimum of > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor > in > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there > for > > the > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh > and > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > different. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > centain > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > > chart of > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > nothing > > > > > unusual > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > knowledge > > > > > when > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > dosha and > > > > > mangal > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift > in > > > > > action so > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper > match > > > is > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > stnght > > of > > > > > chart > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > exceptions and > > > > > even we > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > lagna is > > > > > smallest > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > happening > > > > > in > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is > too > > much > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > professional > > > > > help > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > of the > > > > > part of > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > time > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > shettle > > > > > in us > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > facing > > nadi > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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