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Dear Srinivas Murthy, Adavi,

 

it has been a long time since we saw a post from u, I hope u will continue to

to around it is also good that mediocre astrologers r posting , debating,

discussing something or other and the so called super experts feel below their

dignity, knowledge to participate in such threads.

 

 

and only show up from time to time to show that all of us r mediocre and don't

deserve their valuable wisdom

 

I hope u don't belong to such elite clubs?

 

thansk

 

prashant

 

 

srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 12:08:35 PM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

 

Dear Girishji,

Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra

lords are same but raasi signs are different?

 

srinivas

Quoting bursar_99 :

 

> Dear Shri Girish,

Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish

vrkishnan

with regards

 

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in> wrote:

 

girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in>

Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Prashant ji,

 

In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers

if :

[ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet

is lord of rasi in both charts.

[2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra

are different.

[3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different.

[4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different.

 

The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is :

 

[ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the

kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom.

 

[ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand

of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two

square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of

these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and

should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river

by the couple after the marriage

 

[ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom.

The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with

Saligram first and then with the groom.

 

Regards,

 

Girish Raheja

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Girish

>

> at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the

novices here.

>

> there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other

learned members will dwell on this

>

> say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some

rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a

exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example]

> and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to

nakshatras involved

>

> pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal

way

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...>

>

> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM

> Re: nadi dosh 16/9

>

>

> Dear Sunil Nair ji,

>

> You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i

> cant teach him so was asking for more illumination "

>

> You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from

you

> at least.

>

> Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with

> Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is

> associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna.

>

> Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided

between

> three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a

> naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under

> three differents sets of nakshatra.

>

> People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match.

>

> A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in

> madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya

> naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi

> and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra

> associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in

> the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi.

>

> The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the

> nakshatra and not on Ayurveda.

>

> However you have every right to have your own views.

>

> Regards,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear prashanth ji

> >

> > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp

and

> i dont

> > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r

> memebrs

> > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it

is

> > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in

> reality

> > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as

succesful

> > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy

> understand

> > the chart b4 jumping to remedies

> >

> > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant

> teach him

> > so was asking for more illumination

> >

> > i will not teach some one who knows everything

> >

> > rgerds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one

> let me

> > know which one u r referring to

> > > ,,.. for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //..

> > > ----

> > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and

> then ask

> > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask

> > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I

feel a

> > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will

help,

> he

> > goes to next level if need be/asked

> > >

> > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we

> cover

> > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference.

they

> will

> > look for answers

> > >

> > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading

in

> the

> > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can

explain

> as

> > well

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > >

> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM

> > > Re: nadi dosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear krishnan ji

> > >

> > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b

> the

> > areas

> > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this

> happeneing

> > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all

> person

> > ,so

> > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology

> combines

> > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too

even

> i

> > find

> > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used

> it ,yogies

> > were

> > > using it )

> > >

> > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as

> whole ,here

> > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life

> > miserable

> > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look

> for is

> > > there is any exceptions in chart itself .

> > >

> > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need

not

> want

> > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of

> remedies

> > ,for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time )

> > >

> > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion

> ships and

> > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in

this

> > birth

> > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they

> hav no

> > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with

> less

> > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real

> uses .

> > >

> > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to

> teach

> > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in

> matchting

> > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one .

> > >

> > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis

> and

> > what

> > > they taught us .

> > >

> > > thank u sir

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan

> bursar_99@

> > ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nair Ji,

> > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of

> each

> > pada

> > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient

> > scripts

> > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify

the

> > natives

> > > based on some physical data impressions.

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > > > Re: nadi dosh

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear raheja ji

> > > >

> > > > what is nadi ???

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > , " girish_raheja "

> > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be

> > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do

> with an

> > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very

important

> > factor

> > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the

> > following

> > > > > 8 factors :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point

> > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2

> > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3

> > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4

> > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5

> > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6

> > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7

> > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8

> > > > >

> > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A

> minimum of

> > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match.

> > > > >

> > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important

factor

> in

> > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be

there

> for

> > the

> > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this

dosh

> and

> > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be

> different.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > Girish Raheja

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv

> centain

> > > > > > clarifications .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on

the

> > > > > chart of

> > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is

> nothing

> > > > > unusual

> > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish

> knowledge

> > > > > when

> > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic

> dosha and

> > > > > mangal

> > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and

swift

> in

> > > > > action so

> > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only

proper

> match

> > > is

> > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and

> stnght

> > of

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some

> exceptions and

> > > > > even we

> > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as

> lagna is

> > > > > smallest

> > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is

> > happening

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which

is

> too

> > much

> > > > > > general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real

> professional

> > > > > help

> > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and

will .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest

> of the

> > > > > part of

> > > > > > query to them

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " prashant

dixit "

> > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975,

> time

> > > 11:25

> > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is

> shettle

> > > > > in us

> > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are

> facing

> > nadi

> > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam

> > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non

> > > > > > > professional girl.

> > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my

> > > > > > > brother, that is really nice

> > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding

news.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Mr.Prashant Kumar:

 

How do you say that participants are 'mediocre' and those 'watching' the

'progress' are 'super experts'?  What is your 'standard in measuring them of

abilities in Astrology on either side of the 'fence' you had created as 'Laxman

Reka'?  Do you think you can talk anything you like in a forum?  Who are you to

measure one for his profess in the subject?  How do you expect everyone to

participate the debates on 'threads'?  Do you think that they have NO other

priorities?

" .....mediocre astrologers r posting , debating, discussing something or other

and the so called super experts feel below their dignity, knowledge to

participate in such threads...... "

Your expression as well as your language is far below standards expected in any

forum. When some give you 'respect' try to 'deserve' that respect.  Do not talk

rubbish.

I consider that you have insulted all members in this forum.

 

A.V.Pathi

 

 

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:25:56 AM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9

 

 

Dear Srinivas Murthy, Adavi,

 

it has been a long time since we saw a post from u, I hope u will continue to to

around it is also good that mediocre astrologers r posting , debating,

discussing something or other and the so called super experts feel below their

dignity, knowledge to participate in such threads.

 

and only show up from time to time to show that all of us r mediocre and don't

deserve their valuable wisdom

 

I hope u don't belong to such elite clubs?

 

thansk

 

prashant

 

 

srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 (AT) sify (DOT) com>

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 12:08:35 PM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Dear Girishji,

Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra

lords are same but raasi signs are different?

 

srinivas

Quoting bursar_99 :

 

> Dear Shri Girish,

Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish

vrkishnan

with regards

 

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in> wrote:

 

girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in>

Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM

 

Respected Prashant ji,

 

In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers

if :

[ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet

is lord of rasi in both charts.

[2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra

are different.

[3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different.

[4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different.

 

The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is :

 

[ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the

kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom.

 

[ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand

of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two

square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of

these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and

should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river

by the couple after the marriage

 

[ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom.

The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with

Saligram first and then with the groom.

 

Regards,

 

Girish Raheja

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Girish

>

> at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the

novices here.

>

> there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other

learned members will dwell on this

>

> say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some

rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a

exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example]

> and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to

nakshatras involved

>

> pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal

way

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...>

>

> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM

> Re: nadi dosh 16/9

>

>

> Dear Sunil Nair ji,

>

> You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i

> cant teach him so was asking for more illumination "

>

> You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from

you

> at least.

>

> Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with

> Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is

> associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna.

>

> Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided

between

> three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a

> naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under

> three differents sets of nakshatra.

>

> People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match.

>

> A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in

> madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya

> naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi

> and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra

> associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in

> the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi.

>

> The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the

> nakshatra and not on Ayurveda.

>

> However you have every right to have your own views.

>

> Regards,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear prashanth ji

> >

> > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp

and

> i dont

> > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r

> memebrs

> > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it

is

> > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in

> reality

> > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as

succesful

> > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy

> understand

> > the chart b4 jumping to remedies

> >

> > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant

> teach him

> > so was asking for more illumination

> >

> > i will not teach some one who knows everything

> >

> > rgerds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one

> let me

> > know which one u r referring to

> > > ,,.. for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //..

> > > ----

> > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and

> then ask

> > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask

> > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I

feel a

> > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will

help,

> he

> > goes to next level if need be/asked

> > >

> > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we

> cover

> > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference.

they

> will

> > look for answers

> > >

> > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading

in

> the

> > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can

explain

> as

> > well

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > >

> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM

> > > Re: nadi dosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear krishnan ji

> > >

> > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b

> the

> > areas

> > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this

> happeneing

> > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all

> person

> > ,so

> > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology

> combines

> > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too

even

> i

> > find

> > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used

> it ,yogies

> > were

> > > using it )

> > >

> > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as

> whole ,here

> > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life

> > miserable

> > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look

> for is

> > > there is any exceptions in chart itself .

> > >

> > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need

not

> want

> > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of

> remedies

> > ,for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time )

> > >

> > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion

> ships and

> > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in

this

> > birth

> > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they

> hav no

> > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with

> less

> > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real

> uses .

> > >

> > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to

> teach

> > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in

> matchting

> > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one .

> > >

> > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis

> and

> > what

> > > they taught us .

> > >

> > > thank u sir

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan

> bursar_99@

> > ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nair Ji,

> > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of

> each

> > pada

> > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient

> > scripts

> > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify

the

> > natives

> > > based on some physical data impressions.

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > > > Re: nadi dosh

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear raheja ji

> > > >

> > > > what is nadi ???

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > , " girish_raheja "

> > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be

> > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do

> with an

> > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very

important

> > factor

> > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the

> > following

> > > > > 8 factors :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point

> > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2

> > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3

> > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4

> > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5

> > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6

> > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7

> > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8

> > > > >

> > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A

> minimum of

> > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match.

> > > > >

> > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important

factor

> in

> > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be

there

> for

> > the

> > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this

dosh

> and

> > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be

> different.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > Girish Raheja

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv

> centain

> > > > > > clarifications .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on

the

> > > > > chart of

> > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is

> nothing

> > > > > unusual

> > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish

> knowledge

> > > > > when

> > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic

> dosha and

> > > > > mangal

> > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and

swift

> in

> > > > > action so

> > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only

proper

> match

> > > is

> > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and

> stnght

> > of

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some

> exceptions and

> > > > > even we

> > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as

> lagna is

> > > > > smallest

> > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is

> > happening

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which

is

> too

> > much

> > > > > > general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real

> professional

> > > > > help

> > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and

will .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest

> of the

> > > > > part of

> > > > > > query to them

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " prashant

dixit "

> > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975,

> time

> > > 11:25

> > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is

> shettle

> > > > > in us

> > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are

> facing

> > nadi

> > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam

> > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non

> > > > > > > professional girl.

> > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my

> > > > > > > brother, that is really nice

> > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding

news.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear AV Pathi ji,

 

 

please don't take it in a offense it is meant to those who feel that all of us

are ARE MEDICORE

inspite of asking them to post on subject they feel they don't want to DISCUSS

ANYTING

 

THIS IS AIMED AT SUNIL SREM SRINIVAS ETC

[aee the thread on nadi, benefic and malefics by sunil how many times i

requested him to post material on it, he says he can't share with this group]

 

i also said when SRI VATTEM KRISHMA RAFEL, AV PATHI, BALA andothers can why

can't u, isnt that clear

 

I am not elevating them, but they have insulted us is the POINT, not me, it is a

satire on them

 

not the ones who re doing their best

 

please see it only in the context/thread

 

I have immense respect to all of u who have contributed in every way

 

all of u please see the thread again and reply

 

and in sincerely apologise to anyone who feel hurt by this mail

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 4:26:17 PM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9

 

 

Dear Mr.Prashant Kumar:

 

How do you say that participants are 'mediocre' and those 'watching' the

'progress' are 'super experts'? What is your 'standard in measuring them of

abilities in Astrology on either side of the 'fence' you had created as 'Laxman

Reka'? Do you think you can talk anything you like in a forum? Who are you to

measure one for his profess in the subject? How do you expect everyone to

participate the debates on 'threads'? Do you think that they have NO other

priorities?

" .....mediocre astrologers r posting , debating, discussing something or other

and the so called super experts feel below their dignity, knowledge to

participate in such threads..... . "

Your expression as well as your language is far below standards expected in any

forum. When some give you 'respect' try to 'deserve' that respect. Do not talk

rubbish.

I consider that you have insulted all members in this forum.

 

A.V.Pathi

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:25:56 AM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9

 

Dear Srinivas Murthy, Adavi,

 

it has been a long time since we saw a post from u, I hope u will continue to to

around it is also good that mediocre astrologers r posting , debating,

discussing something or other and the so called super experts feel below their

dignity, knowledge to participate in such threads.

 

and only show up from time to time to show that all of us r mediocre and don't

deserve their valuable wisdom

 

I hope u don't belong to such elite clubs?

 

thansk

 

prashant

 

 

srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 (AT) sify (DOT) com>

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 12:08:35 PM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Dear Girishji,

Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra

lords are same but raasi signs are different?

 

srinivas

Quoting bursar_99 :

 

> Dear Shri Girish,

Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish

vrkishnan

with regards

 

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in> wrote:

 

girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in>

Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM

 

Respected Prashant ji,

 

In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers

if :

[ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet

is lord of rasi in both charts.

[2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra

are different.

[3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different.

[4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different.

 

The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is :

 

[ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the

kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom.

 

[ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand

of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two

square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of

these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and

should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river

by the couple after the marriage

 

[ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom.

The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with

Saligram first and then with the groom.

 

Regards,

 

Girish Raheja

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Girish

>

> at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the

novices here.

>

> there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other

learned members will dwell on this

>

> say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some

rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a

exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example]

> and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to

nakshatras involved

>

> pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal

way

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...>

>

> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM

> Re: nadi dosh 16/9

>

>

> Dear Sunil Nair ji,

>

> You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i

> cant teach him so was asking for more illumination "

>

> You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from

you

> at least.

>

> Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with

> Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is

> associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna.

>

> Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided

between

> three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a

> naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under

> three differents sets of nakshatra.

>

> People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match.

>

> A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in

> madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya

> naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi

> and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra

> associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in

> the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi.

>

> The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the

> nakshatra and not on Ayurveda.

>

> However you have every right to have your own views.

>

> Regards,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear prashanth ji

> >

> > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp

and

> i dont

> > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r

> memebrs

> > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it

is

> > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in

> reality

> > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as

succesful

> > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy

> understand

> > the chart b4 jumping to remedies

> >

> > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant

> teach him

> > so was asking for more illumination

> >

> > i will not teach some one who knows everything

> >

> > rgerds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one

> let me

> > know which one u r referring to

> > > ,,.. for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //..

> > > ----

> > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and

> then ask

> > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask

> > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I

feel a

> > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will

help,

> he

> > goes to next level if need be/asked

> > >

> > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we

> cover

> > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference.

they

> will

> > look for answers

> > >

> > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading

in

> the

> > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can

explain

> as

> > well

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > >

> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM

> > > Re: nadi dosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear krishnan ji

> > >

> > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b

> the

> > areas

> > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this

> happeneing

> > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all

> person

> > ,so

> > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology

> combines

> > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too

even

> i

> > find

> > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used

> it ,yogies

> > were

> > > using it )

> > >

> > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as

> whole ,here

> > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life

> > miserable

> > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look

> for is

> > > there is any exceptions in chart itself .

> > >

> > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need

not

> want

> > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of

> remedies

> > ,for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time )

> > >

> > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion

> ships and

> > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in

this

> > birth

> > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they

> hav no

> > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with

> less

> > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real

> uses .

> > >

> > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to

> teach

> > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in

> matchting

> > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one .

> > >

> > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis

> and

> > what

> > > they taught us .

> > >

> > > thank u sir

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan

> bursar_99@

> > ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nair Ji,

> > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of

> each

> > pada

> > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient

> > scripts

> > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify

the

> > natives

> > > based on some physical data impressions.

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > > > Re: nadi dosh

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear raheja ji

> > > >

> > > > what is nadi ???

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > , " girish_raheja "

> > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be

> > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do

> with an

> > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very

important

> > factor

> > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the

> > following

> > > > > 8 factors :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point

> > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2

> > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3

> > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4

> > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5

> > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6

> > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7

> > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8

> > > > >

> > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A

> minimum of

> > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match.

> > > > >

> > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important

factor

> in

> > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be

there

> for

> > the

> > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this

dosh

> and

> > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be

> different.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > Girish Raheja

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv

> centain

> > > > > > clarifications .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on

the

> > > > > chart of

> > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is

> nothing

> > > > > unusual

> > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish

> knowledge

> > > > > when

> > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic

> dosha and

> > > > > mangal

> > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and

swift

> in

> > > > > action so

> > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only

proper

> match

> > > is

> > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and

> stnght

> > of

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some

> exceptions and

> > > > > even we

> > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as

> lagna is

> > > > > smallest

> > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is

> > happening

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which

is

> too

> > much

> > > > > > general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real

> professional

> > > > > help

> > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and

will .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest

> of the

> > > > > part of

> > > > > > query to them

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " prashant

dixit "

> > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975,

> time

> > > 11:25

> > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is

> shettle

> > > > > in us

> > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are

> facing

> > nadi

> > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam

> > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non

> > > > > > > professional girl.

> > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my

> > > > > > > brother, that is really nice

> > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding

news.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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dear sri pathi,

sorry to enter into this controversy. I am giving my observations. I have

observed

Mr.Lalith who claims he has acquired divine powers thro Mata and that he is

in a position to converse with Goddess Mata. In the last 18mths whichever fourm

he has participated, he has created enough problems. Classsical examples are he

was totally resposnsible for the exit of Pandit Dakshinamurthy from Vedic

astrology and Jyotish remedies. He has quarelled with Bhagavathiji aand sushi

dixit of vedic_astrology classes

forum. he has quarelled with all the moderators of Ancient India Astrology

group.

Yet he keeps claiming that he can stop terror activities in India with his

divine powers, he claims that rape incidence has come down in Delhi because of

his constant prayers.

So u can have ur own assesement abt Mr.Lalith. It is quite unacceptable and very

unpalatable that Shri Prashant (moderator) to pass such remarks like mediocre

astrologers. I dont think the owner of the grroup Sri>Tanveer has  permitted him

to make assessment of members in regards to their knowledge in astrology. At

this juncture it is better Mr.Prashsant tenders an apology and assures he doesnt

come out such  rash statements.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 9/19/08, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9

 

Friday, September 19, 2008, 4:26 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Prashant Kumar:

 

How do you say that participants are 'mediocre' and those 'watching' the

'progress' are 'super experts'?  What is your 'standard in measuring them of

abilities in Astrology on either side of the 'fence' you had created as 'Laxman

Reka'?  Do you think you can talk anything you like in a forum?  Who are you to

measure one for his profess in the subject?  How do you expect everyone to

participate the debates on 'threads'?  Do you think that they have NO other

priorities?

" .....mediocre astrologers r posting , debating, discussing something or other

and the so called super experts feel below their dignity, knowledge to

participate in such threads..... . "

Your expression as well as your language is far below standards expected in any

forum. When some give you 'respect' try to 'deserve' that respect.  Do not talk

rubbish.

I consider that you have insulted all members in this forum.

 

A.V.Pathi

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 3:25:56 AM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 19/9

 

Dear Srinivas Murthy, Adavi,

 

it has been a long time since we saw a post from u, I hope u will continue to to

around it is also good that mediocre astrologers r posting , debating,

discussing something or other and the so called super experts feel below their

dignity, knowledge to participate in such threads.

 

and only show up from time to time to show that all of us r mediocre and don't

deserve their valuable wisdom

 

I hope u don't belong to such elite clubs?

 

thansk

 

prashant

 

 

srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 (AT) sify (DOT) com>

 

Friday, September 19, 2008 12:08:35 PM

Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Dear Girishji,

Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra

lords are same but raasi signs are different?

 

srinivas

Quoting bursar_99 :

 

> Dear Shri Girish,

Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish

vrkishnan

with regards

 

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in> wrote:

 

girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in>

Re: nadi dosh 16/9

 

Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM

 

Respected Prashant ji,

 

In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers

if :

[ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet

is lord of rasi in both charts.

[2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra

are different.

[3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different.

[4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different.

 

The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is :

 

[ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the

kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom.

 

[ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand

of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two

square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of

these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and

should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river

by the couple after the marriage

 

[ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom.

The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with

Saligram first and then with the groom.

 

Regards,

 

Girish Raheja

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Girish

>

> at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the

novices here.

>

> there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other

learned members will dwell on this

>

> say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some

rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a

exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example]

> and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to

nakshatras involved

>

> pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal

way

>

> thanks

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...>

>

> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM

> Re: nadi dosh 16/9

>

>

> Dear Sunil Nair ji,

>

> You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i

> cant teach him so was asking for more illumination "

>

> You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from

you

> at least.

>

> Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with

> Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is

> associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna.

>

> Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided

between

> three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a

> naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under

> three differents sets of nakshatra.

>

> People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match.

>

> A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in

> madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya

> naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi

> and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra

> associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in

> the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi.

>

> The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the

> nakshatra and not on Ayurveda.

>

> However you have every right to have your own views.

>

> Regards,

>

> Girish Raheja

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear prashanth ji

> >

> > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp

and

> i dont

> > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r

> memebrs

> > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it

is

> > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in

> reality

> > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as

succesful

> > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy

> understand

> > the chart b4 jumping to remedies

> >

> > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant

> teach him

> > so was asking for more illumination

> >

> > i will not teach some one who knows everything

> >

> > rgerds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sunil

> > >

> > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one

> let me

> > know which one u r referring to

> > > ,,.. for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //..

> > > ----

> > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and

> then ask

> > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask

> > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I

feel a

> > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will

help,

> he

> > goes to next level if need be/asked

> > >

> > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we

> cover

> > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference.

they

> will

> > look for answers

> > >

> > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading

in

> the

> > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can

explain

> as

> > well

> > >

> > > prashant

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@

> > >

> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM

> > > Re: nadi dosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear krishnan ji

> > >

> > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b

> the

> > areas

> > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this

> happeneing

> > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all

> person

> > ,so

> > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology

> combines

> > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too

even

> i

> > find

> > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used

> it ,yogies

> > were

> > > using it )

> > >

> > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as

> whole ,here

> > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life

> > miserable

> > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look

> for is

> > > there is any exceptions in chart itself .

> > >

> > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need

not

> want

> > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of

> remedies

> > ,for

> > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta

remedies

> which

> > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in

> > discussion

> > > tho he was silent most of the time )

> > >

> > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion

> ships and

> > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in

this

> > birth

> > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they

> hav no

> > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with

> less

> > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real

> uses .

> > >

> > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to

> teach

> > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in

> matchting

> > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one .

> > >

> > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis

> and

> > what

> > > they taught us .

> > >

> > > thank u sir

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > >

> > > , vattem krishnan

> bursar_99@

> > ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Nair Ji,

> > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of

> each

> > pada

> > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient

> > scripts

> > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify

the

> > natives

> > > based on some physical data impressions.

> > > > vrkrishnan

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> > > > Re: nadi dosh

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dear raheja ji

> > > >

> > > > what is nadi ???

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > , " girish_raheja "

> > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be

> > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do

> with an

> > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very

important

> > factor

> > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the

> > following

> > > > > 8 factors :

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point

> > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2

> > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3

> > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4

> > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5

> > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6

> > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7

> > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8

> > > > >

> > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A

> minimum of

> > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match.

> > > > >

> > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important

factor

> in

> > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be

there

> for

> > the

> > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this

dosh

> and

> > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be

> different.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely,

> > > > >

> > > > > Girish Raheja

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " sunil nair "

> > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv

> centain

> > > > > > clarifications .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on

the

> > > > > chart of

> > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is

> nothing

> > > > > unusual

> > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish

> knowledge

> > > > > when

> > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic

> dosha and

> > > > > mangal

> > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and

swift

> in

> > > > > action so

> > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only

proper

> match

> > > is

> > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and

> stnght

> > of

> > > > > chart

> > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some

> exceptions and

> > > > > even we

> > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as

> lagna is

> > > > > smallest

> > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is

> > happening

> > > > > in

> > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which

is

> too

> > much

> > > > > > general .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real

> professional

> > > > > help

> > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and

will .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest

> of the

> > > > > part of

> > > > > > query to them

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > > > >

> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " prashant

dixit "

> > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975,

> time

> > > 11:25

> > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is

> shettle

> > > > > in us

> > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are

> facing

> > nadi

> > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam

> > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non

> > > > > > > professional girl.

> > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my

> > > > > > > brother, that is really nice

> > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding

news.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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