Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Dear Learned Astrologers ओमॠनमो नारायनाय  We understand most malefic houses are considered to be house no. 6,8 and 12. But functionally malefic planets are considered to be lords of 3,6 and 11 as per IAVA. Other opinion considers mooltrikona of lords of 6,8 and 12 are considered malific.  Can someone throw light on this to understand exact nature of planets  Regards Ashok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Jaswani, Very interesting aspect has been raised by you.Houses as malefic for a moment may be considered as different from bhavas. Since each house will of 30deg guided asterisms we need also considers these asterisms too into account. Astrology has a wholistic approach in which we need to take houses,lords bhavas and their position particularly in navamsa to infer results from the point of view of benific and malefic houses and planets.benific planets like jupiter,venus,moon depnding on their avasthas may give malefic results. some malefic planets like nodes,saturn and even mars may give benific results.Degres of the planets(drekkana state too) are to be considered. vrksihnan --- On Thu, 9/18/08, A Jaswani <a_jaswani wrote: A Jaswani <a_jaswani Functional Nature of Planets " Jagannath SJC " , " vedic astrology " <vedic astrology >, " " , jhora Thursday, September 18, 2008, 10:43 AM Dear Learned Astrologers ओमॠनमो नारायनाय  We understand most malefic houses are considered to be house no. 6,8 and 12. But functionally malefic planets are considered to be lords of 3,6 and 11 as per IAVA. Other opinion considers mooltrikona of lords of 6,8 and 12 are considered malific.  Can someone throw light on this to understand exact nature of planets  Regards Ashok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Respected Vattemji & #2323; & #2350; & #2381; & #2344; & #2350; & #2379; & #2344; & #2366; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2366; & #2351; Good to hear from you... *benific planets like jupiter,venus,moon depnding on their avasthas may give malefic results* How can avastha changes the functional nature?? Is it placement in nutshell?? Suppose Ju is placed in Li lagna in Rashi and in 12th house scorpio navamsa. What is going to be the the functional nature of Ju being lord of 3rd and 6th house in rashi. Kindly share your knowledge. Regards Ashok , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > > Dear Jaswani, > Very interesting aspect has been raised by you.Houses as malefic for a moment may be considered as different from bhavas. > Since each house will of 30deg guided asterisms we need also considers these asterisms too into account. > Astrology has a wholistic approach in which we need to take houses,lords bhavas and their position particularly in navamsa to infer results from the point of view of benific and malefic houses and planets.benific planets like jupiter,venus,moon depnding on their avasthas may give malefic results. > some malefic planets like nodes,saturn and even mars may give benific results.Degres of the planets(drekkana state too) are to be considered. > vrksihnan > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, A Jaswani <a_jaswani wrote: > > A Jaswani <a_jaswani > Functional Nature of Planets > " Jagannath SJC " , " vedic- astrology " <vedic- astrology >, " " , jhora > Thursday, September 18, 2008, 10:43 AM Dear Learned Astrologers > ठ" मॠनमो नारायनाय >  > We understand most malefic houses are considered to be house no. 6,8 and 12. > But functionally malefic planets are considered to be lords of 3,6 and 11 as per IAVA. > Other opinion considers mooltrikona of lords of 6,8 and 12 are considered malific. >  > Can someone throw light on this to understand exact nature of planets >  > Regards > Ashok > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Ashok Ji, Apart fromšshadbalas,naisargik bal too has it's own share that contributes to the strength of the planets. Position of the planet commencing from houses1,5 and 9 as most important houses have their own significance apart from other houses.As all these houses from the point of view of divisional charts too hold their own significance.In the process from planets as placed in the natal chart are either getting strengthened or getting weakened. :ucchaja bala based on position assumes greater significance. Now the avasthas of them a planet in 10-20 degrees is best is in yavana avastha and give results of the sign and house.Rest of the states below 10 and >20 give results of next house.In vriddhapya planets have no strength and like wise balyavastha. š Infact functional nature is for broad identification as benific and malific to identify 7 planets.Nodes being retrograde have no dtrngth of their own.Mercury too as a dual planet has no definete nature.Exception how ever exaltation and debilitation. A planet placed in 7th always has less strength and becomes marak.here 7th refers to house as well sign in zodiac 7th known to be libra in zodiac is where saturn gets exalted.in this position except venus no other planet will have strength to deliver results.Jupiter is therefore no exception.And panchdha mitra too is a significant issue to ascertain how aplnet gives result. That way benific may not be benific and malefic planet no more a malefic.In lagna all planets have equal strength.Also in other two trikonas like 5 and 9 too. Functional nature of planet is sgnificant only to understand the behaviour of planets.This functional nature changes based on aspects whether in transit or in natal positions. what is important is dasa and position of dasa lord and strength of the planet. we understand saturn making kings and jupiter creating worst kindle of hurdles have their own story.It matters therefore to find the status of the planet including placement,nature of the hosue and certainly the bahava that is likely to be impacted vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 9/19/08, a_jaswani <a_jaswani wrote: a_jaswani <a_jaswani Re: Functional Nature of Planets Friday, September 19, 2008, 10:13 AM Respected Vattemji & #2323; & #2350; & #2381; & #2344; & #2350; & #2379; & #2344; & #2366; & #2352; & # 2366; & #2351; & #2344; & # 2366; & #2351; Good to hear from you... *benific planets like jupiter,venus, moon depnding on their avasthas may give malefic results* How can avastha changes the functional nature?? Is it placement in nutshell?? Suppose Ju is placed in Li lagna in Rashi and in 12th house scorpio navamsa. What is going to be the the functional nature of Ju being lord of 3rd and 6th house in rashi. Kindly share your knowledge. Regards Ashok , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > > Dear Jaswani, > Very interesting aspect has been raised by you.Houses as malefic for a moment may be considered as different from bhavas. > Since each house will of 30deg guided asterisms we need also considers these asterisms too into account. > Astrology has a wholistic approach in which we need to take houses,lords bhavas and their position particularly in navamsa to infer results from the point of view of benific and malefic houses and planets.benific planets like jupiter,venus, moon depnding on their avasthas may give malefic results. > some malefic planets like nodes,saturn and even mars may give benific results.Degres of the planets(drekkana state too) are to be considered. > vrksihnan > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, A Jaswani <a_jaswani@. ..> wrote: > > A Jaswani <a_jaswani@. ..> > Functional Nature of Planets > " Jagannath SJC " <>, " vedic- astrology@grou ps.com " <vedic- astrology@grou ps.com>, " " <>, jhora > Thursday, September 18, 2008, 10:43 AM Dear Learned Astrologers > ÒÄ " ÒÄÏÒÅî ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÅì ÒÄÉÒĬÒÄÒĬÒÄÐÒÄÉÒĬÒÄÐ > ˆÁ > We understand most malefic houses are considered to be house no.ˆÁ6,8 and 12. > But functionally malefic planets are considered to be lords of 3,6 and 11 as per IAVA. > Other opinion considers mooltrikona of lords of 6,8 and 12 are considered malific. > ˆÁ > Can someone throw light on this to understand exact nature of planets > ˆÁ > Regards > Ashok > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Dear Vattemji Om Namo Narayanay Thanks for clarifying the subject.. Regards Ashok , vattem krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Ashok Ji, > Apart fromšshadbalas,naisargik bal too has it's own share that contributes to the strength of the planets. > Position of the planet commencing from houses1,5 and 9 as most important houses have their own significance apart from other houses.As all these houses from the point of view of divisional charts too hold their own significance.In the process from planets as placed in the natal chart are either getting strengthened or getting weakened. > :ucchaja bala based on position assumes greater significance. > Now the avasthas of them a planet in 10-20 degrees is best is in yavana avastha and give results of the sign and house.Rest of the states below 10 and >20 give results of next house.In vriddhapya planets have no strength and like wise balyavastha. > š > Infact functional nature is for broad identification as benific and malific to identify 7 planets.Nodes being retrograde have no dtrngth of their own.Mercury too as a dual planet has no definete nature.Exception how ever exaltation and debilitation. > A planet placed in 7th always has less strength and becomes marak.here 7th refers to house as well sign in zodiac > 7th known to be libra in zodiac is where saturn gets exalted.in this position except venus no other planet will have strength to deliver results.Jupiter is therefore no exception.And panchdha mitra too is a significant issue to ascertain how aplnet gives result. > That way benific may not be benific and malefic planet no more a malefic.In lagna all planets have equal strength.Also in other two trikonas like 5 and 9 too. > Functional nature of planet is sgnificant only to understand the behaviour of planets.This functional nature changes based on aspects whether in transit or in natal positions. > what is important is dasa and position of dasa lord and strength of the planet. > we understand saturn making kings and jupiter creating worst kindle of hurdles have their own story.It matters therefore to find the status of the planet including placement,nature of the hosue and certainly the bahava that is likely to be impacted > vrkrishnan > --- On Fri, 9/19/08, a_jaswani <a_jaswani wrote: > > a_jaswani <a_jaswani > Re: Functional Nature of Planets > > Friday, September 19, 2008, 10:13 AM Respected Vattemji > & #2323; & #2350; & #2381; & #2344; & #2350; & #2379; & #2344; & #2366; & #2352; & # 2366; & #2351; & #2344; & # 2366; & #2351; > > Good to hear from you... > *benific planets like jupiter,venus, moon depnding on their avasthas > may give malefic results* > How can avastha changes the functional nature?? Is it placement in > nutshell?? > Suppose Ju is placed in Li lagna in Rashi and in 12th house scorpio > navamsa. What is going to be the the functional nature of Ju being > lord of 3rd and 6th house in rashi. > > Kindly share your knowledge. > > Regards > Ashok > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Jaswani, > > Very interesting aspect has been raised by you.Houses as malefic > for a moment may be considered as different from bhavas. > > Since each house will of 30deg guided asterisms we need also > considers these asterisms too into account. > > Astrology has a wholistic approach in which we need to take > houses,lords bhavas and their position particularly in navamsa to > infer results from the point of view of benific and malefic houses > and planets.benific planets like jupiter,venus, moon depnding on their > avasthas may give malefic results. > > some malefic planets like nodes,saturn and even mars may give > benific results.Degres of the planets(drekkana state too) are to be > considered. > > vrksihnan > > > > --- On Thu, 9/18/08, A Jaswani <a_jaswani@ ..> wrote: > > > > A Jaswani <a_jaswani@ ..> > > Functional Nature of Planets > > " Jagannath SJC " <>, " vedic- > astrology@grou ps.com " <vedic- > astrology@grou ps.com>, " " > <>, jhora > > Thursday, September 18, 2008, 10:43 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Learned Astrologers > > ÒÄ " ÒÄÏÒÅî ÒÄÉÒÄÏÒÅì ÒÄÉÒĬÒÄÒĬÒÄÐÒÄÉÒĬÒÄÐ > > ˆÁ > > We understand most malefic houses are considered to be house > no.ˆÁ6,8 and 12. > > But functionally malefic planets are considered to be lords of 3,6 > and 11 as per IAVA. > > Other opinion considers mooltrikona of lords of 6,8 and 12 are > considered malific. > > ˆÁ > > Can someone throw light on this to understand exact nature of > planets > > ˆÁ > > Regards > > Ashok > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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