attn sunil, nair, AV Pathi. Bhaskar 17/9

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil Nair, A V Pathi, Bhaskar. tanveerji

 

I am sending this mail specifically to the 3 of u and tanvir ji as owner of the

group

 

I approved only one message with much hesitation by lalit today

 

 

, there r many which I have with held can forward them to all who want to read

it the groups peace and discussion alone r central to me. I have sent sunil a

coppy of 7 mails of lalit, I wrote to Lalit i will do it as well so no betrayal

here I said to them to limit their wars privately

 

 

and why did i approve one msg of Lalit today

 

why inspite of asking manytimes sunil to say something on Nadis he spent time

only on attacking girish

 

it doesnt matter what girish says is sense or rubbish, let sunil say what is

right at least- is all i mean.

 

 

now on Nadi dosha Girish had given a reply

 

to which sunil asked what was Nadi dosh

then girish had replied in what little he know

 

I have also said and he in a later mail that was not the only factor in deciding

a alliance

 

he has given the sloka from whatsoever be the source

 

WHICH CAN BE SEEN AS outdated and needs some adaptation to our times today I

tried a simple way as varnas were more profession based

 

so i extended it to all religious people with different means of work/livelihood

pl see and comment on it add or say wht u feel is right or wrong in such

approaches

 

 

we need to do some rethinking on what classics said after all it has the inbuilt

Desha, kala paristhithi to guide us we need not throw the classis as unwanted

they r our pillars for all times to come

 

the post of lalit i allowed was least sensitive and all it asked was for some

material

it is strange AV Pathi too has gone into same stream and I wish he had some

views on Nadi dosha instead

 

the simplest way to prove your presence is by what u speak, write and if it is

Jyotish it will shine if it is fire u will get fire instead

 

I HAVE NOT PASSED SEVERAL MAILS is a fact that i take my job seroiusly

there is one mail by mistake i had passed some one abusing rafel ji

 

I have writen in group and to rafel ji too it was a mistake-due to mu low vision

after this even if it takes longer time i wait read and approve

 

so BHASKAR why keep bringing it all the while as though I don't want anyone here

and what will the group be witout them?

 

 

even before i became moderator for last 2 yrs i have acknowledged good

contributions from several members

 

Anup M, Asto Nikit, gaurav ghosh.

 

VATTEM KRISHNA ji had long break and missed him but whnever he posted from the

blue have said we miss him and I am happy but for his presence the light in the

group wont be this good rafel ji too is back all these r the pillars of several

groups

TATVAM-ASI too i have missed from time to time he said he will need more time to

be back, RRji is on and off, we need all of them here too

 

and their contribution can never be lost, this is one reason why I do

acknowledge their work

 

apart from me and sreenadh ji in AIA i hardly see moderators, acknowledging

member contrubutions. as said I've done this well before I was anywhere near a

moderator

 

it is a joy tosee the subject shine its glory from anyone.THE MORE MEMBERS ADD T

O IT , BETTER IT BECOMES.

 

all I do is avoid friction and u must see it is sunil who has provoked Lalit and

I have stopped lalits response is this fair NO i need to be fair to both to air

the taunts, YET I AM PARTIAL TO SUNIL TO LLOW HIS TAUNTS AND NOT LALIT yet u

blame me.

 

but u can see that I have not allowed it to become a play ground but did pass on

the replies to sunil

 

i spke to sunil on this to avoid them but he said he loves taunting Lalit

 

if sunil or av pathi did add something to the nadi thread will be good

 

we all learn by sharing not by abusing one another

 

and remember one time girish was called my fake ID too, which is not true and I

can't read sanskrit or quote it as he has

this must lay to rest the fact girish exists in Harayana, me in chennai

 

whatever I have to say I will say with my own ID and it will have my signature

below it

 

 

Bhakar

 

I hope i carried the essence of ur mail, i can't pass urs it surely not that it

is abusive on me, but it has no facts

the Rafel ji episode is behind me and rafel ji u can ask him openly if u wish or

private

 

on LALIT he too feels I am biased towards sunil and is leaving the forum if this

helps u all

 

all i did was see if he can present himself as a jyotish student here

 

he was peaceful till sunil started provoking him but i never allowed lalits

replies to sunil for peace of group sake

 

even if cut and paste I allowed lalits mails as long as it was jyotish rest not

approved

 

 

sunil I want ur work here to be as good as it is in AIA

 

if u see ur reply on Dayakar and mine and

my reply and urs on the sucide case r on similar lines in AIA so if the subject

is the basis we r close to it, i hope it comes in the chemsitry too I have no

issus with u, and want all members to feel free and write more of jyotish

 

remember if u don't like a person address just materially to the group, need not

take a dig at them

 

 

 

 

best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear prashant ji

 

when some one harass me i lov it ,as i got more chance to expose them

,their clay idols will b more viscible to world at large ,but i told u

in personal mails or chats i dont care all those names as i dont feel no

way can match me as i realy tolied than shouting in grps for technics

rather i will do real suregery and prove if i blv they r wrong .but now

a days moderation and siding and personal attchments rules than real

cases of study of astro .

 

 

 

those who r memebrs of AIA ( ancient indian astrology grp ) can see 500

mails min which i dont talk any nonsense and which i talk real astro

,but i did challeneged many pet theoreis and till today they will hide

behind classics or sanskrit shlokas ,nothing else never prooved .

 

but i always ready to learn and willing with full open mind ,so i can

reduce my efforts .but here it is not the case they want everything by

arm twisting methods ,and dont acknowldge that i hav a busy shedule and

i hav lot of personal work and even i told u in chat and in grp that i

hav some work going on which may take my time ,In case i am moving to

south in search more nadi reserch even i told u i hav to leav also all

grps .

 

so this shouting ppl has all books in world but dont know how to apply

and want s my knowldge -my long yrs of eefort with just shouting ,can u

point out one instance where i hav done it ?? in all this yrs in any

grps ??i will say with humble requesst and will wait for him to

open up .

 

other wise i am ready to learn frm any one ,other wise i lov to taunt

and play all self declared gurus ,which is true tho i dont giv a damn

value for them /

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil Nair, A V Pathi, Bhaskar. tanveerji

>

> I am sending this mail specifically to the 3 of u and tanvir ji as

owner of the group

>

> I approved only one message with much hesitation by lalit today

>

>

> , there r many which I have with held can forward them to all who want

to read it the groups peace and discussion alone r central to me. I have

sent sunil a coppy of 7 mails of lalit, I wrote to Lalit i will do it as

well so no betrayal here I said to them to limit their wars privately

>

>

> and why did i approve one msg of Lalit today

>

> why inspite of asking manytimes sunil to say something on Nadis he

spent time only on attacking girish

>

> it doesnt matter what girish says is sense or rubbish, let sunil say

what is right at least- is all i mean.

>

>

> now on Nadi dosha Girish had given a reply

>

> to which sunil asked what was Nadi dosh

> then girish had replied in what little he know

>

> I have also said and he in a later mail that was not the only factor

in deciding a alliance

>

> he has given the sloka from whatsoever be the source

>

> WHICH CAN BE SEEN AS outdated and needs some adaptation to our times

today I tried a simple way as varnas were more profession based

>

> so i extended it to all religious people with different means of

work/livelihood pl see and comment on it add or say wht u feel is right

or wrong in such approaches

>

>

> we need to do some rethinking on what classics said after all it has

the inbuilt Desha, kala paristhithi to guide us we need not throw the

classis as unwanted they r our pillars for all times to come

>

> the post of lalit i allowed was least sensitive and all it asked was

for some material

> it is strange AV Pathi too has gone into same stream and I wish he had

some views on Nadi dosha instead

>

> the simplest way to prove your presence is by what u speak, write and

if it is Jyotish it will shine if it is fire u will get fire instead

>

> I HAVE NOT PASSED SEVERAL MAILS is a fact that i take my job seroiusly

> there is one mail by mistake i had passed some one abusing rafel ji

>

> I have writen in group and to rafel ji too it was a mistake-due to mu

low vision after this even if it takes longer time i wait read and

approve

>

> so BHASKAR why keep bringing it all the while as though I don't want

anyone here and what will the group be witout them?

>

>

> even before i became moderator for last 2 yrs i have acknowledged good

contributions from several members

>

> Anup M, Asto Nikit, gaurav ghosh.

>

> VATTEM KRISHNA ji had long break and missed him but whnever he posted

from the blue have said we miss him and I am happy but for his presence

the light in the group wont be this good rafel ji too is back all these

r the pillars of several groups

> TATVAM-ASI too i have missed from time to time he said he will need

more time to be back, RRji is on and off, we need all of them here too

>

> and their contribution can never be lost, this is one reason why I do

acknowledge their work

>

> apart from me and sreenadh ji in AIA i hardly see moderators,

acknowledging member contrubutions. as said I've done this well before I

was anywhere near a moderator

>

> it is a joy tosee the subject shine its glory from anyone.THE MORE

MEMBERS ADD T O IT , BETTER IT BECOMES.

>

> all I do is avoid friction and u must see it is sunil who has provoked

Lalit and I have stopped lalits response is this fair NO i need to be

fair to both to air the taunts, YET I AM PARTIAL TO SUNIL TO LLOW HIS

TAUNTS AND NOT LALIT yet u blame me.

>

> but u can see that I have not allowed it to become a play ground but

did pass on the replies to sunil

>

> i spke to sunil on this to avoid them but he said he loves taunting

Lalit

>

> if sunil or av pathi did add something to the nadi thread will be good

>

> we all learn by sharing not by abusing one another

>

> and remember one time girish was called my fake ID too, which is not

true and I can't read sanskrit or quote it as he has

> this must lay to rest the fact girish exists in Harayana, me in

chennai

>

> whatever I have to say I will say with my own ID and it will have my

signature below it

>

>

> Bhakar

>

> I hope i carried the essence of ur mail, i can't pass urs it surely

not that it is abusive on me, but it has no facts

> the Rafel ji episode is behind me and rafel ji u can ask him openly if

u wish or private

>

> on LALIT he too feels I am biased towards sunil and is leaving the

forum if this helps u all

>

> all i did was see if he can present himself as a jyotish student here

>

> he was peaceful till sunil started provoking him but i never allowed

lalits replies to sunil for peace of group sake

>

> even if cut and paste I allowed lalits mails as long as it was jyotish

rest not approved

>

>

> sunil I want ur work here to be as good as it is in AIA

>

> if u see ur reply on Dayakar and mine and

> my reply and urs on the sucide case r on similar lines in AIA so if

the subject is the basis we r close to it, i hope it comes in the

chemsitry too I have no issus with u, and want all members to feel free

and write more of jyotish

>

> remember if u don't like a person address just materially to the

group, need not take a dig at them

>

>

>

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Prashant Kumar,

Thank you for making a reference on my name in your mails.  I am extremely sorry

that I got into this inadvertently.

In the mist of you all, I wish I continue to be an 'on looker', if you permit me

and the group would extend that privilege to me, of the exchange of mails.

 

Thanks again,

 

 A.V.Pathi,                                       

 

 

 

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

jyotish remedies

Cc: Tanvir <ultimate

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:48:32 PM

attn sunil, nair, AV Pathi. Bhaskar 17/9

 

 

Dear Sunil Nair, A V Pathi, Bhaskar. tanveerji

 

I am sending this mail specifically to the 3 of u and tanvir ji as owner of the

group

 

I approved only one message with much hesitation by lalit today

 

, there r many which I have with held can forward them to all who want to read

it the groups peace and discussion alone r central to me. I have sent sunil a

coppy of 7 mails of lalit, I wrote to Lalit i will do it as well so no betrayal

here I said to them to limit their wars privately

 

and why did i approve one msg of Lalit today

 

why inspite of asking manytimes sunil to say something on Nadis he spent time

only on attacking girish

 

it doesnt matter what girish says is sense or rubbish, let sunil say what is

right at least- is all i mean.

 

now on Nadi dosha Girish had given a reply

 

to which sunil asked what was Nadi dosh

then girish had replied in what little he know

 

I have also said and he in a later mail that was not the only factor in deciding

a alliance

 

he has given the sloka from whatsoever be the source

 

WHICH CAN BE SEEN AS outdated and needs some adaptation to our times today I

tried a simple way as varnas were more profession based

 

so i extended it to all religious people with different means of work/livelihood

pl see and comment on it add or say wht u feel is right or wrong in such

approaches

 

we need to do some rethinking on what classics said after all it has the inbuilt

Desha, kala paristhithi to guide us we need not throw the classis as unwanted

they r our pillars for all times to come

 

the post of lalit i allowed was least sensitive and all it asked was for some

material

it is strange AV Pathi too has gone into same stream and I wish he had some

views on Nadi dosha instead

 

the simplest way to prove your presence is by what u speak, write and if it is

Jyotish it will shine if it is fire u will get fire instead

 

I HAVE NOT PASSED SEVERAL MAILS is a fact that i take my job seroiusly

there is one mail by mistake i had passed some one abusing rafel ji

 

I have writen in group and to rafel ji too it was a mistake-due to mu low vision

after this even if it takes longer time i wait read and approve

 

so BHASKAR why keep bringing it all the while as though I don't want anyone here

and what will the group be witout them?

 

even before i became moderator for last 2 yrs i have acknowledged good

contributions from several members

 

Anup M, Asto Nikit, gaurav ghosh.

 

VATTEM KRISHNA ji had long break and missed him but whnever he posted from the

blue have said we miss him and I am happy but for his presence the light in the

group wont be this good rafel ji too is back all these r the pillars of several

groups

TATVAM-ASI too i have missed from time to time he said he will need more time to

be back, RRji is on and off, we need all of them here too

 

and their contribution can never be lost, this is one reason why I do

acknowledge their work

 

apart from me and sreenadh ji in AIA i hardly see moderators, acknowledging

member contrubutions. as said I've done this well before I was anywhere near a

moderator

 

it is a joy tosee the subject shine its glory from anyone.THE MORE MEMBERS ADD T

O IT , BETTER IT BECOMES.

 

all I do is avoid friction and u must see it is sunil who has provoked Lalit and

I have stopped lalits response is this fair NO i need to be fair to both to air

the taunts, YET I AM PARTIAL TO SUNIL TO LLOW HIS TAUNTS AND NOT LALIT yet u

blame me.

 

but u can see that I have not allowed it to become a play ground but did pass on

the replies to sunil

 

i spke to sunil on this to avoid them but he said he loves taunting Lalit

 

if sunil or av pathi did add something to the nadi thread will be good

 

we all learn by sharing not by abusing one another

 

and remember one time girish was called my fake ID too, which is not true and I

can't read sanskrit or quote it as he has

this must lay to rest the fact girish exists in Harayana, me in chennai

 

whatever I have to say I will say with my own ID and it will have my signature

below it

 

Bhakar

 

I hope i carried the essence of ur mail, i can't pass urs it surely not that it

is abusive on me, but it has no facts

the Rafel ji episode is behind me and rafel ji u can ask him openly if u wish or

private

 

on LALIT he too feels I am biased towards sunil and is leaving the forum if this

helps u all

 

all i did was see if he can present himself as a jyotish student here

 

he was peaceful till sunil started provoking him but i never allowed lalits

replies to sunil for peace of group sake

 

even if cut and paste I allowed lalits mails as long as it was jyotish rest not

approved

 

sunil I want ur work here to be as good as it is in AIA

 

if u see ur reply on Dayakar and mine and

my reply and urs on the sucide case r on similar lines in AIA so if the subject

is the basis we r close to it, i hope it comes in the chemsitry too I have no

issus with u, and want all members to feel free and write more of jyotish

 

remember if u don't like a person address just materially to the group, need not

take a dig at them

 

best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

[Guest guest]

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Prashant , Namaskar

 

I appreciate your endevour and respect but I cant go with this politics.

Normally I ignore these kind of mails and thats also my advice for you.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal

 

 

 

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B pisze:

>

> Dear Sunil Nair, A V Pathi, Bhaskar. tanveerji

>

> I am sending this mail specifically to the 3 of u and tanvir ji as

> owner of the group

>

> I approved only one message with much hesitation by lalit today

>

> , there r many which I have with held can forward them to all who want

> to read it the groups peace and discussion alone r central to me. I

> have sent sunil a coppy of 7 mails of lalit, I wrote to Lalit i will

> do it as well so no betrayal here I said to them to limit their wars

> privately

>

> and why did i approve one msg of Lalit today

>

> why inspite of asking manytimes sunil to say something on Nadis he

> spent time only on attacking girish

>

> it doesnt matter what girish says is sense or rubbish, let sunil say

> what is right at least- is all i mean.

>

> now on Nadi dosha Girish had given a reply

>

> to which sunil asked what was Nadi dosh

> then girish had replied in what little he know

>

> I have also said and he in a later mail that was not the only factor

> in deciding a alliance

>

> he has given the sloka from whatsoever be the source

>

> WHICH CAN BE SEEN AS outdated and needs some adaptation to our times

> today I tried a simple way as varnas were more profession based

>

> so i extended it to all religious people with different means of

> work/livelihood pl see and comment on it add or say wht u feel is

> right or wrong in such approaches

>

> we need to do some rethinking on what classics said after all it has

> the inbuilt Desha, kala paristhithi to guide us we need not throw the

> classis as unwanted they r our pillars for all times to come

>

> the post of lalit i allowed was least sensitive and all it asked was

> for some material

> it is strange AV Pathi too has gone into same stream and I wish he had

> some views on Nadi dosha instead

>

> the simplest way to prove your presence is by what u speak, write and

> if it is Jyotish it will shine if it is fire u will get fire instead

>

> I HAVE NOT PASSED SEVERAL MAILS is a fact that i take my job seroiusly

> there is one mail by mistake i had passed some one abusing rafel ji

>

> I have writen in group and to rafel ji too it was a mistake-due to mu

> low vision after this even if it takes longer time i wait read and approve

>

> so BHASKAR why keep bringing it all the while as though I don't want

> anyone here and what will the group be witout them?

>

> even before i became moderator for last 2 yrs i have acknowledged good

> contributions from several members

>

> Anup M, Asto Nikit, gaurav ghosh.

>

> VATTEM KRISHNA ji had long break and missed him but whnever he posted

> from the blue have said we miss him and I am happy but for his

> presence the light in the group wont be this good rafel ji too is back

> all these r the pillars of several groups

> TATVAM-ASI too i have missed from time to time he said he will need

> more time to be back, RRji is on and off, we need all of them here too

>

> and their contribution can never be lost, this is one reason why I do

> acknowledge their work

>

> apart from me and sreenadh ji in AIA i hardly see moderators,

> acknowledging member contrubutions. as said I've done this well before

> I was anywhere near a moderator

>

> it is a joy tosee the subject shine its glory from anyone.THE MORE

> MEMBERS ADD T O IT , BETTER IT BECOMES.

>

> all I do is avoid friction and u must see it is sunil who has provoked

> Lalit and I have stopped lalits response is this fair NO i need to be

> fair to both to air the taunts, YET I AM PARTIAL TO SUNIL TO LLOW HIS

> TAUNTS AND NOT LALIT yet u blame me.

>

> but u can see that I have not allowed it to become a play ground but

> did pass on the replies to sunil

>

> i spke to sunil on this to avoid them but he said he loves taunting Lalit

>

> if sunil or av pathi did add something to the nadi thread will be good

>

> we all learn by sharing not by abusing one another

>

> and remember one time girish was called my fake ID too, which is not

> true and I can't read sanskrit or quote it as he has

> this must lay to rest the fact girish exists in Harayana, me in chennai

>

> whatever I have to say I will say with my own ID and it will have my

> signature below it

>

> Bhakar

>

> I hope i carried the essence of ur mail, i can't pass urs it surely

> not that it is abusive on me, but it has no facts

> the Rafel ji episode is behind me and rafel ji u can ask him openly if

> u wish or private

>

> on LALIT he too feels I am biased towards sunil and is leaving the

> forum if this helps u all

>

> all i did was see if he can present himself as a jyotish student here

>

> he was peaceful till sunil started provoking him but i never allowed

> lalits replies to sunil for peace of group sake

>

> even if cut and paste I allowed lalits mails as long as it was jyotish

> rest not approved

>

> sunil I want ur work here to be as good as it is in AIA

>

> if u see ur reply on Dayakar and mine and

> my reply and urs on the sucide case r on similar lines in AIA so if

> the subject is the basis we r close to it, i hope it comes in the

> chemsitry too I have no issus with u, and want all members to feel

> free and write more of jyotish

>

> remember if u don't like a person address just materially to the

> group, need not take a dig at them

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rael

 

I appreciate ur eply, thank for this but it can help clear the mud slining group

that I have a vested interest and and I may exaspirate others to leave the group

and hang around alone here WHICH IS rubbish

 

just to keep the politicians quiet all u can say is

 

that u accept or still not sure if my mistatken approval of a message by a

member abusing u, was NOT INTENTIONAL and have taken enough measures to regret

it will help them using this as a excuse to target me from time to time

like i always have said u r one of the hard working members in the groups and ur

presence here and other groups is not worth being lost for any reason

 

if at all u find something wrong done by be please feel free to write to me in

public or private will rectify them asap

 

please be here and keep working as usual

 

thanks

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

 

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:00:00 AM

Re: attn sunil, nair, AV Pathi. Bhaskar 17/9

 

 

*kleem namah narasimhaaya*

Dear Prashant , Namaskar

 

I appreciate your endevour and respect but I cant go with this politics.

Normally I ignore these kind of mails and thats also my advice for you.

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher

www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

 

Prashant Kumar G B pisze:

>

> Dear Sunil Nair, A V Pathi, Bhaskar. tanveerji

>

> I am sending this mail specifically to the 3 of u and tanvir ji as

> owner of the group

>

> I approved only one message with much hesitation by lalit today

>

> , there r many which I have with held can forward them to all who want

> to read it the groups peace and discussion alone r central to me. I

> have sent sunil a coppy of 7 mails of lalit, I wrote to Lalit i will

> do it as well so no betrayal here I said to them to limit their wars

> privately

>

> and why did i approve one msg of Lalit today

>

> why inspite of asking manytimes sunil to say something on Nadis he

> spent time only on attacking girish

>

> it doesnt matter what girish says is sense or rubbish, let sunil say

> what is right at least- is all i mean.

>

> now on Nadi dosha Girish had given a reply

>

> to which sunil asked what was Nadi dosh

> then girish had replied in what little he know

>

> I have also said and he in a later mail that was not the only factor

> in deciding a alliance

>

> he has given the sloka from whatsoever be the source

>

> WHICH CAN BE SEEN AS outdated and needs some adaptation to our times

> today I tried a simple way as varnas were more profession based

>

> so i extended it to all religious people with different means of

> work/livelihood pl see and comment on it add or say wht u feel is

> right or wrong in such approaches

>

> we need to do some rethinking on what classics said after all it has

> the inbuilt Desha, kala paristhithi to guide us we need not throw the

> classis as unwanted they r our pillars for all times to come

>

> the post of lalit i allowed was least sensitive and all it asked was

> for some material

> it is strange AV Pathi too has gone into same stream and I wish he had

> some views on Nadi dosha instead

>

> the simplest way to prove your presence is by what u speak, write and

> if it is Jyotish it will shine if it is fire u will get fire instead

>

> I HAVE NOT PASSED SEVERAL MAILS is a fact that i take my job seroiusly

> there is one mail by mistake i had passed some one abusing rafel ji

>

> I have writen in group and to rafel ji too it was a mistake-due to mu

> low vision after this even if it takes longer time i wait read and approve

>

> so BHASKAR why keep bringing it all the while as though I don't want

> anyone here and what will the group be witout them?

>

> even before i became moderator for last 2 yrs i have acknowledged good

> contributions from several members

>

> Anup M, Asto Nikit, gaurav ghosh.

>

> VATTEM KRISHNA ji had long break and missed him but whnever he posted

> from the blue have said we miss him and I am happy but for his

> presence the light in the group wont be this good rafel ji too is back

> all these r the pillars of several groups

> TATVAM-ASI too i have missed from time to time he said he will need

> more time to be back, RRji is on and off, we need all of them here too

>

> and their contribution can never be lost, this is one reason why I do

> acknowledge their work

>

> apart from me and sreenadh ji in AIA i hardly see moderators,

> acknowledging member contrubutions. as said I've done this well before

> I was anywhere near a moderator

>

> it is a joy tosee the subject shine its glory from anyone.THE MORE

> MEMBERS ADD T O IT , BETTER IT BECOMES.

>

> all I do is avoid friction and u must see it is sunil who has provoked

> Lalit and I have stopped lalits response is this fair NO i need to be

> fair to both to air the taunts, YET I AM PARTIAL TO SUNIL TO LLOW HIS

> TAUNTS AND NOT LALIT yet u blame me.

>

> but u can see that I have not allowed it to become a play ground but

> did pass on the replies to sunil

>

> i spke to sunil on this to avoid them but he said he loves taunting Lalit

>

> if sunil or av pathi did add something to the nadi thread will be good

>

> we all learn by sharing not by abusing one another

>

> and remember one time girish was called my fake ID too, which is not

> true and I can't read sanskrit or quote it as he has

> this must lay to rest the fact girish exists in Harayana, me in chennai

>

> whatever I have to say I will say with my own ID and it will have my

> signature below it

>

> Bhakar

>

> I hope i carried the essence of ur mail, i can't pass urs it surely

> not that it is abusive on me, but it has no facts

> the Rafel ji episode is behind me and rafel ji u can ask him openly if

> u wish or private

>

> on LALIT he too feels I am biased towards sunil and is leaving the

> forum if this helps u all

>

> all i did was see if he can present himself as a jyotish student here

>

> he was peaceful till sunil started provoking him but i never allowed

> lalits replies to sunil for peace of group sake

>

> even if cut and paste I allowed lalits mails as long as it was jyotish

> rest not approved

>

> sunil I want ur work here to be as good as it is in AIA

>

> if u see ur reply on Dayakar and mine and

> my reply and urs on the sucide case r on similar lines in AIA so if

> the subject is the basis we r close to it, i hope it comes in the

> chemsitry too I have no issus with u, and want all members to feel

> free and write more of jyotish

>

> remember if u don't like a person address just materially to the

> group, need not take a dig at them

>

> best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

[Guest guest]

A V Pathi

 

please feel free and read, exchange ur views no issue on this

 

all i have said is when u defend someone pl do by the topic, thread on that day

not on anyones IMAGE, GOOD OR BAD

 

it is like saying saurav ganguly, rahuld dravid scored tons of runs for the

country, but then when we loose matches we must not ignore the fact thay have

aged and history won't change the result

 

i want u to add on Nadis sure I know u can so pl feel fee and do it

reply to any queries

 

dont remain a onlooker be a participant

 

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

venkatachala pathi <pathiav

 

Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:07:38 AM

Re: attn sunil, nair, AV Pathi. Bhaskar 17/9

 

 

Dear Mr. Prashant Kumar,

Thank you for making a reference on my name in your mails. I am extremely sorry

that I got into this inadvertently.

In the mist of you all, I wish I continue to be an 'on looker', if you permit me

and the group would extend that privilege to me, of the exchange of mails.

 

Thanks again,

 

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

jyotish remedies <>

Cc: Tanvir <ultimate (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com>

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:48:32 PM

attn sunil, nair, AV Pathi. Bhaskar 17/9

 

Dear Sunil Nair, A V Pathi, Bhaskar. tanveerji

 

I am sending this mail specifically to the 3 of u and tanvir ji as owner of the

group

 

I approved only one message with much hesitation by lalit today

 

, there r many which I have with held can forward them to all who want to read

it the groups peace and discussion alone r central to me. I have sent sunil a

coppy of 7 mails of lalit, I wrote to Lalit i will do it as well so no betrayal

here I said to them to limit their wars privately

 

and why did i approve one msg of Lalit today

 

why inspite of asking manytimes sunil to say something on Nadis he spent time

only on attacking girish

 

it doesnt matter what girish says is sense or rubbish, let sunil say what is

right at least- is all i mean.

 

now on Nadi dosha Girish had given a reply

 

to which sunil asked what was Nadi dosh

then girish had replied in what little he know

 

I have also said and he in a later mail that was not the only factor in deciding

a alliance

 

he has given the sloka from whatsoever be the source

 

WHICH CAN BE SEEN AS outdated and needs some adaptation to our times today I

tried a simple way as varnas were more profession based

 

so i extended it to all religious people with different means of work/livelihood

pl see and comment on it add or say wht u feel is right or wrong in such

approaches

 

we need to do some rethinking on what classics said after all it has the inbuilt

Desha, kala paristhithi to guide us we need not throw the classis as unwanted

they r our pillars for all times to come

 

the post of lalit i allowed was least sensitive and all it asked was for some

material

it is strange AV Pathi too has gone into same stream and I wish he had some

views on Nadi dosha instead

 

the simplest way to prove your presence is by what u speak, write and if it is

Jyotish it will shine if it is fire u will get fire instead

 

I HAVE NOT PASSED SEVERAL MAILS is a fact that i take my job seroiusly

there is one mail by mistake i had passed some one abusing rafel ji

 

I have writen in group and to rafel ji too it was a mistake-due to mu low vision

after this even if it takes longer time i wait read and approve

 

so BHASKAR why keep bringing it all the while as though I don't want anyone here

and what will the group be witout them?

 

even before i became moderator for last 2 yrs i have acknowledged good

contributions from several members

 

Anup M, Asto Nikit, gaurav ghosh.

 

VATTEM KRISHNA ji had long break and missed him but whnever he posted from the

blue have said we miss him and I am happy but for his presence the light in the

group wont be this good rafel ji too is back all these r the pillars of several

groups

TATVAM-ASI too i have missed from time to time he said he will need more time to

be back, RRji is on and off, we need all of them here too

 

and their contribution can never be lost, this is one reason why I do

acknowledge their work

 

apart from me and sreenadh ji in AIA i hardly see moderators, acknowledging

member contrubutions. as said I've done this well before I was anywhere near a

moderator

 

it is a joy tosee the subject shine its glory from anyone.THE MORE MEMBERS ADD T

O IT , BETTER IT BECOMES.

 

all I do is avoid friction and u must see it is sunil who has provoked Lalit and

I have stopped lalits response is this fair NO i need to be fair to both to air

the taunts, YET I AM PARTIAL TO SUNIL TO LLOW HIS TAUNTS AND NOT LALIT yet u

blame me.

 

but u can see that I have not allowed it to become a play ground but did pass on

the replies to sunil

 

i spke to sunil on this to avoid them but he said he loves taunting Lalit

 

if sunil or av pathi did add something to the nadi thread will be good

 

we all learn by sharing not by abusing one another

 

and remember one time girish was called my fake ID too, which is not true and I

can't read sanskrit or quote it as he has

this must lay to rest the fact girish exists in Harayana, me in chennai

 

whatever I have to say I will say with my own ID and it will have my signature

below it

 

Bhakar

 

I hope i carried the essence of ur mail, i can't pass urs it surely not that it

is abusive on me, but it has no facts

the Rafel ji episode is behind me and rafel ji u can ask him openly if u wish or

private

 

on LALIT he too feels I am biased towards sunil and is leaving the forum if this

helps u all

 

all i did was see if he can present himself as a jyotish student here

 

he was peaceful till sunil started provoking him but i never allowed lalits

replies to sunil for peace of group sake

 

even if cut and paste I allowed lalits mails as long as it was jyotish rest not

approved

 

sunil I want ur work here to be as good as it is in AIA

 

if u see ur reply on Dayakar and mine and

my reply and urs on the sucide case r on similar lines in AIA so if the subject

is the basis we r close to it, i hope it comes in the chemsitry too I have no

issus with u, and want all members to feel free and write more of jyotish

 

remember if u don't like a person address just materially to the group, need not

take a dig at them

 

best wishes

 

prashant