Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Sunil if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me know which one u r referring to ,,.. for exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in discussion tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. ---- about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he goes to next level if need be/asked it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will look for answers what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as well prashant sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM Re: nadi dosh Hare rama krishna dear krishnan ji yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the areas this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person ,so it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i find ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies were using it ) Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life miserable without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is there is any exceptions in chart itself . ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies ,for exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in discussion tho he was silent most of the time ) even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this birth ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses . This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting than this prominent south indian or north indian one . still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and what they taught us . thank u sir regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Nair Ji, > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each pada of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient scripts prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the natives based on some physical data impressions. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > Re: nadi dosh > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > dear raheja ji > > what is nadi ??? > > regrds sunil nair > > , " girish_raheja " > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important factor > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the following > > 8 factors : > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for the > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > clarifications . > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > chart of > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > unusual > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > when > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > mangal > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > action so > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match is > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght of > > chart > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > even we > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > smallest > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is happening > > in > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too much > > > general . > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > help > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > part of > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time 11:25 > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > in us > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing nadi > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > professional girl. > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 hare rama krishna dear prashanth ji abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and i dont want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r memebrs ..hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in reality it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy understand the chart b4 jumping to remedies as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him so was asking for more illumination i will not teach some one who knows everything rgerds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Sunil > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me know which one u r referring to > ,,.. for > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in discussion > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > ---- > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he goes to next level if need be/asked > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will look for answers > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as well > > prashant > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear krishnan ji > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the areas > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person ,so > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i find > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies were > using it ) > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life miserable > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies ,for > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in discussion > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this birth > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses . > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and what > they taught us . > > thank u sir > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > , vattem krishnan bursar_99@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each pada > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient scripts > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the natives > based on some physical data impressions. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important factor > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the following > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for the > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > chart of > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > > unusual > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > > when > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > > mangal > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > > action so > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match > is > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght of > > > chart > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > > even we > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > > smallest > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is happening > > > in > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too much > > > > general . > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > > help > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > > part of > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time > 11:25 > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > > in us > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing nadi > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Sunil ok if u feel I had said something on the abhoota pl fwd it to my ID than group will see normally i dont enter such eerie threads i may have still given a rmedy but not on abhoota etc about raheja well no harm in stating what u know for good or bad, jnowledge from anyone is knowledge novice /laymen /professional so feel free and say what has to be said leave just freshness around and let any bitterness be nipped at the bud itself share ur views freely if u r uncomfortable addressing it toraheja address it to the group in the same thread or a new thread as u said u r aware of 23 matching methods START a new series on them and let the light shine on all of us Best wishes [rashant sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:19:45 PM Re: nadi dosh 16/9 hare rama krishna dear prashanth ji abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and i dont want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r memebrs ..hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in reality it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy understand the chart b4 jumping to remedies as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him so was asking for more illumination i will not teach some one who knows everything rgerds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Sunil > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me know which one u r referring to > ,,.. for > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in discussion > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > ---- > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he goes to next level if need be/asked > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will look for answers > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as well > > prashant > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear krishnan ji > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the areas > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person ,so > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i find > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies were > using it ) > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life miserable > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies ,for > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in discussion > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this birth > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses . > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and what > they taught us . > > thank u sir > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > , vattem krishnan bursar_99@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each pada > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient scripts > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the natives > based on some physical data impressions. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important factor > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the following > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for the > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > chart of > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > > unusual > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > > when > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > > mangal > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > > action so > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match > is > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght of > > > chart > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > > even we > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > > smallest > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is happening > > > in > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too much > > > > general . > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > > help > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > > part of > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time > 11:25 > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > > in us > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing nadi > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 hare rama krishna dear prashanth ji i never said u participated in discussion rather said u r silent . matchting articles i will publish one of this days,now i am busy too .i already published some but will do more on other areas in matchting regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Sunil > > ok if u feel I had said something on the abhoota pl fwd it to my ID than group will see normally i dont enter such eerie threads > i may have still given a rmedy but not on abhoota etc > > about raheja well no harm in stating what u know for good or bad, jnowledge from anyone is knowledge novice /laymen /professional so feel free and say what has to be said leave just freshness around and let any bitterness be nipped at the bud itself share ur views freely if u r uncomfortable addressing it toraheja address it to the group in the same thread or a new thread as u said u r aware of 23 matching methods START a new series on them and let the light shine on all of us > > Best wishes > > [rashant > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:19:45 PM > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear prashanth ji > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and i dont > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r memebrs > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in reality > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy understand > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him > so was asking for more illumination > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > rgerds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > , Prashant Kumar G B > gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Sunil > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me > know which one u r referring to > > ,,.. for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > ---- > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will > look for answers > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as > well > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the > areas > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person > ,so > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i > find > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies > were > > using it ) > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > miserable > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies > ,for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > birth > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses .. > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and > what > > they taught us . > > > > thank u sir > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , vattem krishnan bursar_99@ > ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each > pada > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > scripts > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > natives > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > factor > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > following > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for > the > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > chart of > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > > > unusual > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > > > when > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > > > mangal > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > > > action so > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match > > is > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght > of > > > > chart > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > > > even we > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > > > smallest > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > happening > > > > in > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too > much > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > > > help > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > > > part of > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time > > 11:25 > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > > > in us > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing > nadi > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Sunil thanks for clearing the air, as said I venture into simple and safe terrotories and the aboot concept itself is aline for me nice to know even unknowlingly i was not in it, but do read some group messages when time permits, stil some issues r thre to deal with before getting some more time to spare for Jyotishya about match making if u have already publised that is v good they r available with u so pl just upload them in file section or by mails here, rest as u said when time permits. if u post early some discussions can also take place and enrich ourselves best wishes prashant sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:33:17 PM Re: nadi dosh 16/9 hare rama krishna dear prashanth ji i never said u participated in discussion rather said u r silent . matchting articles i will publish one of this days,now i am busy too .i already published some but will do more on other areas in matchting regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Sunil > > ok if u feel I had said something on the abhoota pl fwd it to my ID than group will see normally i dont enter such eerie threads > i may have still given a rmedy but not on abhoota etc > > about raheja well no harm in stating what u know for good or bad, jnowledge from anyone is knowledge novice /laymen /professional so feel free and say what has to be said leave just freshness around and let any bitterness be nipped at the bud itself share ur views freely if u r uncomfortable addressing it toraheja address it to the group in the same thread or a new thread as u said u r aware of 23 matching methods START a new series on them and let the light shine on all of us > > Best wishes > > [rashant > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:19:45 PM > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear prashanth ji > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and i dont > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r memebrs > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in reality > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy understand > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him > so was asking for more illumination > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > rgerds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > , Prashant Kumar G B > gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Sunil > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me > know which one u r referring to > > ,,.. for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > ---- > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will > look for answers > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as > well > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the > areas > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person > ,so > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i > find > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies > were > > using it ) > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > miserable > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies > ,for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > birth > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses .. > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and > what > > they taught us . > > > > thank u sir > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , vattem krishnan bursar_99@ > ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each > pada > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > scripts > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > natives > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > factor > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > following > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for > the > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > chart of > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > > > unusual > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > > > when > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > > > mangal > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > > > action so > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match > > is > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght > of > > > > chart > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > > > even we > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > > > smallest > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > happening > > > > in > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too > much > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > > > help > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > > > part of > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time > > 11:25 > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > > > in us > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing > nadi > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Sunil Nair ji, You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from you at least. Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided between three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under three differents sets of nakshatra. People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. However you have every right to have your own views. Regards, Girish Raheja , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear prashanth ji > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and i dont > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r memebrs > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in reality > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy understand > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him > so was asking for more illumination > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > rgerds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Sunil > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me > know which one u r referring to > > ,,.. for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > ---- > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will > look for answers > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as > well > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the > areas > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person > ,so > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i > find > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies > were > > using it ) > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > miserable > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies > ,for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > birth > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses . > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and > what > > they taught us . > > > > thank u sir > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , vattem krishnan bursar_99@ > ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each > pada > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > scripts > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > natives > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > factor > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > following > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for > the > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > chart of > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > > > unusual > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > > > when > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > > > mangal > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > > > action so > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match > > is > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght > of > > > > chart > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > > > even we > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > > > smallest > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > happening > > > > in > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too > much > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > > > help > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > > > part of > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time > > 11:25 > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > > > in us > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing > nadi > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Girish at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the novices here. there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other learned members will dwell on this say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to nakshatras involved pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal way thanks prashant girish_raheja <girish_raheja Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM Re: nadi dosh 16/9 Dear Sunil Nair ji, You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from you at least. Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided between three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under three differents sets of nakshatra. People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. However you have every right to have your own views. Regards, Girish Raheja , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear prashanth ji > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and i dont > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r memebrs > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in reality > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy understand > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant teach him > so was asking for more illumination > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > rgerds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Sunil > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one let me > know which one u r referring to > > ,,.. for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > ---- > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and then ask > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, he > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we cover > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they will > look for answers > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in the > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain as > well > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b the > areas > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this happeneing > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all person > ,so > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology combines > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even i > find > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used it ,yogies > were > > using it ) > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as whole ,here > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > miserable > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look for is > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not want > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of remedies > ,for > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies which > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > discussion > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion ships and > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > birth > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they hav no > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with less > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real uses . > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to teach > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in matchting > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis and > what > > they taught us . > > > > thank u sir > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > , vattem krishnan bursar_99@ > ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of each > pada > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > scripts > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > natives > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do with an > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > factor > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > following > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A minimum of > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor in > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there for > the > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh and > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be different. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv centain > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > chart of > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is nothing > > > > unusual > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish knowledge > > > > when > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic dosha and > > > > mangal > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift in > > > > action so > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper match > > is > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and stnght > of > > > > chart > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some exceptions and > > > > even we > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as lagna is > > > > smallest > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > happening > > > > in > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is too > much > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real professional > > > > help > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest of the > > > > part of > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, time > > 11:25 > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is shettle > > > > in us > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are facing > nadi > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Respected Prashant ji, In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers if : [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet is lord of rasi in both charts. [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra are different. [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river by the couple after the marriage [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with Saligram first and then with the groom. Regards, Girish Raheja , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Girish > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the novices here. > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other learned members will dwell on this > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to nakshatras involved > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal way > > thanks > > prashant > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from you > at least. > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided between > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and > i dont > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > memebrs > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > reality > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > understand > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > teach him > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > let me > > know which one u r referring to > > > ,,.. for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > ---- > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > then ask > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, > he > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > cover > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they > will > > look for answers > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in > the > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain > as > > well > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > the > > areas > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > happeneing > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > person > > ,so > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > combines > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even > i > > find > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > it ,yogies > > were > > > using it ) > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > whole ,here > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > miserable > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > for is > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not > want > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > remedies > > ,for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > ships and > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > > birth > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > hav no > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > less > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > uses . > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > teach > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > matchting > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > and > > what > > > they taught us . > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > bursar_99@ > > ..> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > each > > pada > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > scripts > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > > natives > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > with an > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > > factor > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > following > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > minimum of > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor > in > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there > for > > the > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh > and > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > different. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > centain > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > > chart of > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > nothing > > > > > unusual > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > knowledge > > > > > when > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > dosha and > > > > > mangal > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift > in > > > > > action so > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper > match > > > is > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > stnght > > of > > > > > chart > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > exceptions and > > > > > even we > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > lagna is > > > > > smallest > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > happening > > > > > in > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is > too > > much > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > professional > > > > > help > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > of the > > > > > part of > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > time > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > shettle > > > > > in us > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > facing > > nadi > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Shri Girish, Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish vrkishnan with regards --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja wrote: girish_raheja <girish_raheja Re: nadi dosh 16/9 Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM Respected Prashant ji, In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers if : [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet is lord of rasi in both charts. [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra are different. [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river by the couple after the marriage [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with Saligram first and then with the groom. Regards, Girish Raheja , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Girish > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the novices here. > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other learned members will dwell on this > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to nakshatras involved > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal way > > thanks > > prashant > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from you > at least. > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided between > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and > i dont > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > memebrs > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > reality > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > understand > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > teach him > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > let me > > know which one u r referring to > > > ,,.. for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > ---- > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > then ask > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, > he > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > cover > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they > will > > look for answers > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in > the > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain > as > > well > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > the > > areas > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > happeneing > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > person > > ,so > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > combines > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even > i > > find > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > it ,yogies > > were > > > using it ) > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > whole ,here > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > miserable > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > for is > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not > want > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > remedies > > ,for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > ships and > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > > birth > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > hav no > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > less > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > uses . > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > teach > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > matchting > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > and > > what > > > they taught us . > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > bursar_99@ > > ..> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > each > > pada > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > scripts > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > > natives > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > with an > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > > factor > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > following > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > minimum of > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor > in > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there > for > > the > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh > and > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > different. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > centain > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > > chart of > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > nothing > > > > > unusual > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > knowledge > > > > > when > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > dosha and > > > > > mangal > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift > in > > > > > action so > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper > match > > > is > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > stnght > > of > > > > > chart > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > exceptions and > > > > > even we > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > lagna is > > > > > smallest > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > happening > > > > > in > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is > too > > much > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > professional > > > > > help > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > of the > > > > > part of > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > time > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > shettle > > > > > in us > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > facing > > nadi > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > let me > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > ,,.. for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > ---- > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > then ask > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > feel a > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > help, > > he > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > cover > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > they > > will > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > in > > the > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > explain > > as > > > well > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > the > > > areas > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > happeneing > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > person > > > ,so > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > combines > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > even > > i > > > find > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > it ,yogies > > > were > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > whole ,here > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > miserable > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > for is > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > not > > want > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > remedies > > > ,for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > ships and > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > this > > > birth > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > hav no > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > less > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > uses . > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > teach > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > matchting > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > and > > > what > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > bursar_99@ > > > ..> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > each > > > pada > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > scripts > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > the > > > natives > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > with an > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > important > > > factor > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > following > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > minimum of > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > factor > > in > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > there > > for > > > the > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > dosh > > and > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > centain > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > the > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > nothing > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > knowledge > > > > > > when > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > dosha and > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > swift > > in > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > proper > > match > > > > is > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > stnght > > > of > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > exceptions and > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > lagna is > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > happening > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > is > > too > > > much > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > professional > > > > > > help > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > of the > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > dixit " > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > time > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > shettle > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > facing > > > nadi > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Srinivasa ji, This is simple. If a person is born with moon in the 1st quarter of Uttar Phalguni he will have Sinh rasi [ Leo ] where as another person born in the same nakshastra uttar phalguni but in the 3rd quarter his rasi will be Kanya [ virgo ] Therefore two people although born with moon in the same nakshatra will have different Rasi and different Rasi lords. Regards, Girish Raheja , srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 wrote: > > Dear Girishji, > Thanks for nice information.Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > srinivas > Quoting bursar_99: > > > Dear Shri Girish, > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > vrkishnan > with regards > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja wrote: > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM Respected Prashant ji, > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > if : > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > is lord of rasi in both charts. > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > are different. > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > by the couple after the marriage > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Girish > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > novices here. > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > learned members will dwell on this > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > nakshatras involved > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > way > > > > thanks > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > you > > at least. > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > between > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > and > > i dont > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > memebrs > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > is > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > reality > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > succesful > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > understand > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > teach him > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > let me > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > ,,.. for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > ---- > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > then ask > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > feel a > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > help, > > he > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > cover > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > they > > will > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > in > > the > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > explain > > as > > > well > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > the > > > areas > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > happeneing > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > person > > > ,so > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > combines > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > even > > i > > > find > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > it ,yogies > > > were > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > whole ,here > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > miserable > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > for is > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > not > > want > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > remedies > > > ,for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > ships and > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > this > > > birth > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > hav no > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > less > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > uses . > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > teach > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > matchting > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > and > > > what > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > bursar_99@ > > > ..> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > each > > > pada > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > scripts > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > the > > > natives > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > with an > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > important > > > factor > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > following > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > minimum of > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > factor > > in > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > there > > for > > > the > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > dosh > > and > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > centain > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > the > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > nothing > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > knowledge > > > > > > when > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > dosha and > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > swift > > in > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > proper > > match > > > > is > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > stnght > > > of > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > exceptions and > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > lagna is > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > happening > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > is > > too > > > much > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > professional > > > > > > help > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > of the > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > dixit " > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12- 1975, > > time > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > shettle > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > facing > > > nadi > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Girishji, Thanks for nice information.Please clarify on the point (3)is it if nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? srinivas Quoting bursar_99: > Dear Shri Girish, Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish vrkishnan with regards --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja wrote: girish_raheja <girish_raheja Re: nadi dosh 16/9 Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM Respected Prashant ji, In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers if : [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet is lord of rasi in both charts. [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra are different. [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river by the couple after the marriage [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with Saligram first and then with the groom. Regards, Girish Raheja , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Girish > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the novices here. > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other learned members will dwell on this > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to nakshatras involved > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal way > > thanks > > prashant > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from you > at least. > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided between > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , " sunil nair " > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp and > i dont > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > memebrs > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it is > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > reality > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as succesful > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > understand > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > teach him > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > let me > > know which one u r referring to > > > ,,.. for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > ---- > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > then ask > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I feel a > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will help, > he > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > cover > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. they > will > > look for answers > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading in > the > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can explain > as > > well > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > the > > areas > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > happeneing > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > person > > ,so > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > combines > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too even > i > > find > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > it ,yogies > > were > > > using it ) > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > whole ,here > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > miserable > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > for is > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need not > want > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > remedies > > ,for > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta remedies > which > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > discussion > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > ships and > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in this > > birth > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > hav no > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > less > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > uses . > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > teach > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > matchting > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > and > > what > > > they taught us . > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > bursar_99@ > > ..> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > each > > pada > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > scripts > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify the > > natives > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > with an > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very important > > factor > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > following > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > minimum of > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important factor > in > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be there > for > > the > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this dosh > and > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > different. > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > centain > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on the > > > > > chart of > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > nothing > > > > > unusual > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > knowledge > > > > > when > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > dosha and > > > > > mangal > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and swift > in > > > > > action so > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only proper > match > > > is > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > stnght > > of > > > > > chart > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > exceptions and > > > > > even we > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > lagna is > > > > > smallest > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > happening > > > > > in > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which is > too > > much > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > professional > > > > > help > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > of the > > > > > part of > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant dixit " > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > time > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > shettle > > > > > in us > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > facing > > nadi > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Srinivas , Namaskar Its bad for sambandha when lords are the same. Its rajju dosha. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal srinivasa murthy adavi pisze: > > Dear Girishji, > Thanks for nice information.Please clarify on the point (3)is it if > nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > srinivas > Quoting bursar_99 <bursar_99%40>: > > > Dear Shri Girish, > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > vrkishnan > with regards > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja > <girish_raheja%40.co.in>> wrote: > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja > <girish_raheja%40.co.in>> > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > <%40> > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM Respected Prashant ji, > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > if : > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > is lord of rasi in both charts. > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > are different. > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > by the couple after the marriage > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Girish > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > novices here. > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > learned members will dwell on this > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > nakshatras involved > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > way > > > > thanks > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > you > > at least. > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > between > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > and > > i dont > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > memebrs > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > is > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > reality > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > succesful > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > understand > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > teach him > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > let me > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > ,,.. for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > ---- > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > then ask > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > feel a > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > help, > > he > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > cover > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > they > > will > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > in > > the > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > explain > > as > > > well > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > the > > > areas > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > happeneing > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > person > > > ,so > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > combines > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > even > > i > > > find > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > it ,yogies > > > were > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > whole ,here > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > miserable > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > for is > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > not > > want > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > remedies > > > ,for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > ships and > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > this > > > birth > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > hav no > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > less > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > uses . > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > teach > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > matchting > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > and > > > what > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > bursar_99@ > > > ..> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > each > > > pada > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > scripts > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > the > > > natives > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > with an > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > important > > > factor > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > following > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > minimum of > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > factor > > in > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > there > > for > > > the > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > dosh > > and > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > centain > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > the > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > nothing > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > knowledge > > > > > > when > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > dosha and > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > swift > > in > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > proper > > match > > > > is > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > stnght > > > of > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > exceptions and > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > lagna is > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > happening > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > is > > too > > > much > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > professional > > > > > > help > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > of the > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > dixit " > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > time > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > shettle > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > facing > > > nadi > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Rafel ji I hope u can expand for the benefit of young members [in the subject] the doshas attributed to lack of a point in all the kootas say now Rajju what will be the min needed and if low any other compensating, or balancing points within kootas for each of the missing ones say for Nadi,, Guna, rajju, stree dheerga, yoni, gana, mahendra etc... u can start a new thread on each of them with a prefix on kootas++and all of us are ware Kiotas r a primary filter and the horoscopes must be compatible as well mere good scores in points is no guarentee. this is a statutory warning like smking ciggretes r injurious to health [for the SHY super experts to note that v r not missing anything] prashant Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51:59 PM Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Srinivas , Namaskar Its bad for sambandha when lords are the same. Its rajju dosha. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com srinivasa murthy adavi pisze: > > Dear Girishji, > Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if > nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > srinivas > Quoting bursar_99 <bursar_ 99%40. com>: > > > Dear Shri Girish, > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > vrkishnan > with regards > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> wrote: > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM Respected Prashant ji, > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > if : > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > is lord of rasi in both charts. > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > are different. > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > by the couple after the marriage > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > Regards, > > Girish Raheja > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Girish > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > novices here. > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > learned members will dwell on this > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > nakshatras involved > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > way > > > > thanks > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > you > > at least. > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > between > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > Regards, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > , " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > and > > i dont > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > memebrs > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > is > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > reality > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > succesful > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > understand > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > teach him > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > let me > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > ,,.. for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > ---- > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > then ask > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > feel a > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > help, > > he > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > cover > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > they > > will > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > in > > the > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > explain > > as > > > well > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > the > > > areas > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > happeneing > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > person > > > ,so > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > combines > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > even > > i > > > find > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > it ,yogies > > > were > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > whole ,here > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > miserable > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > for is > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > not > > want > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > remedies > > > ,for > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > remedies > > which > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > discussion > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > ships and > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > this > > > birth > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > hav no > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > less > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > uses . > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > teach > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > matchting > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > and > > > what > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > bursar_99@ > > > ..> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > each > > > pada > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > scripts > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > the > > > natives > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > with an > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > important > > > factor > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > following > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > minimum of > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > factor > > in > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > there > > for > > > the > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > dosh > > and > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > centain > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > the > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > nothing > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > knowledge > > > > > > when > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > dosha and > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > swift > > in > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > proper > > match > > > > is > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > stnght > > > of > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > exceptions and > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > lagna is > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > happening > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > is > > too > > > much > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > professional > > > > > > help > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > of the > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > dixit " > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > time > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > shettle > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > facing > > > nadi > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant, Namaskar As written by other members there are different traditions which pay more attention to different kootas. In our parampara we stick to astha koota for psychological unity. Every koota has importance for various areas of life. Like Rajju is important for children, seperation, longevity, Rasi is important for support, Ghatak for psychological hurting, Yoni for sexuality etc. Then there is also karma (upapada/seventh bhava/lords/navamsa) and Muhurta. There is also love aspects which is described in Prashna Marga. Definitely Muhurta classics and Prasna Marga are good start for this topic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > Dear Rafel ji > > I hope u can expand for the benefit of young members [in the subject] > the doshas attributed to lack of a point in all the kootas > > say now Rajju what will be the min needed and if low any other > compensating, or balancing points within kootas for each of the > missing ones > > say for Nadi,, Guna, rajju, stree dheerga, yoni, gana, mahendra etc... > > u can start a new thread on each of them with a prefix on kootas++and > all of us are ware Kiotas r a primary filter and the horoscopes must > be compatible as well mere good scores in points is no guarentee. > > this is a statutory warning like smking ciggretes r injurious to > health [for the SHY super experts to note that v r not missing anything] > > prashant > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> > > <%40> > Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51:59 PM > Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Srinivas , Namaskar > > Its bad for sambandha when lords are the same. Its rajju dosha. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > srinivasa murthy adavi pisze: > > > > Dear Girishji, > > Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if > > nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > > > srinivas > > Quoting bursar_99 <bursar_ 99%40. com>: > > > > > Dear Shri Girish, > > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > > vrkishnan > > with regards > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> wrote: > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prashant ji, > > > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > > if : > > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > > is lord of rasi in both charts. > > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > > are different. > > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > > by the couple after the marriage > > > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > > > Regards, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Girish > > > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > > novices here. > > > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > > learned members will dwell on this > > > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > > nakshatras involved > > > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > > way > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > > you > > > at least. > > > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > > between > > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > > and > > > i dont > > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > > memebrs > > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > > is > > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > > reality > > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > > succesful > > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > > understand > > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > > teach him > > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > > let me > > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > > ,,.. for > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > remedies > > > which > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > discussion > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > > ---- > > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > > then ask > > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > > feel a > > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > > help, > > > he > > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > > cover > > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > > they > > > will > > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > > in > > > the > > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > > explain > > > as > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > > the > > > > areas > > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > > happeneing > > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > > person > > > > ,so > > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > > combines > > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > > even > > > i > > > > find > > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > > it ,yogies > > > > were > > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > > whole ,here > > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > > miserable > > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > > for is > > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > > not > > > want > > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > > remedies > > > > ,for > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > remedies > > > which > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > discussion > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > > ships and > > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > > this > > > > birth > > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > > hav no > > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > > less > > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > > uses . > > > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > > teach > > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > > matchting > > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > > and > > > > what > > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > bursar_99@ > > > > ..> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > > each > > > > pada > > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > > scripts > > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > > the > > > > natives > > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > > with an > > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > > important > > > > factor > > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > > following > > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > > minimum of > > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > > factor > > > in > > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > > there > > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > > dosh > > > and > > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > > centain > > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > > the > > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > > nothing > > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > > knowledge > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > > dosha and > > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > > swift > > > in > > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > > proper > > > match > > > > > is > > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > > stnght > > > > of > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > > exceptions and > > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > > lagna is > > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > > happening > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > > is > > > too > > > > much > > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > > professional > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > > of the > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > > dixit " > > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > > time > > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > > shettle > > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > > facing > > > > nadi > > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Rafel ji, thanks for the overview I hope u can start a thread for each koota and say its significance if it is lacking any balancing ones in other kootas and they too need a min % to be effective what r the exceptions as most rules will have a exception or two thanks prashant Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme Friday, September 19, 2008 1:31:47 PM Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant, Namaskar As written by other members there are different traditions which pay more attention to different kootas. In our parampara we stick to astha koota for psychological unity. Every koota has importance for various areas of life. Like Rajju is important for children, seperation, longevity, Rasi is important for support, Ghatak for psychological hurting, Yoni for sexuality etc. Then there is also karma (upapada/seventh bhava/lords/ navamsa) and Muhurta. There is also love aspects which is described in Prashna Marga. Definitely Muhurta classics and Prasna Marga are good start for this topic. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > Dear Rafel ji > > I hope u can expand for the benefit of young members [in the subject] > the doshas attributed to lack of a point in all the kootas > > say now Rajju what will be the min needed and if low any other > compensating, or balancing points within kootas for each of the > missing ones > > say for Nadi,, Guna, rajju, stree dheerga, yoni, gana, mahendra etc... > > u can start a new thread on each of them with a prefix on kootas++and > all of us are ware Kiotas r a primary filter and the horoscopes must > be compatible as well mere good scores in points is no guarentee. > > this is a statutory warning like smking ciggretes r injurious to > health [for the SHY super experts to note that v r not missing anything] > > prashant > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme %40wp.pl> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51:59 PM > Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Srinivas , Namaskar > > Its bad for sambandha when lords are the same. Its rajju dosha. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > srinivasa murthy adavi pisze: > > > > Dear Girishji, > > Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if > > nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > > > srinivas > > Quoting bursar_99 <bursar_ 99%40. com>: > > > > > Dear Shri Girish, > > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > > vrkishnan > > with regards > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> wrote: > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prashant ji, > > > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > > if : > > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > > is lord of rasi in both charts. > > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > > are different. > > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > > by the couple after the marriage > > > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > > > Regards, > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Girish > > > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > > novices here. > > > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > > learned members will dwell on this > > > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > > nakshatras involved > > > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > > way > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > > you > > > at least. > > > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > > between > > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > > and > > > i dont > > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > > memebrs > > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > > is > > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > > reality > > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > > succesful > > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > > understand > > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > > teach him > > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > > let me > > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > > ,,.. for > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > remedies > > > which > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > discussion > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > > ---- > > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > > then ask > > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > > feel a > > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > > help, > > > he > > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > > cover > > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > > they > > > will > > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > > in > > > the > > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > > explain > > > as > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > > the > > > > areas > > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > > happeneing > > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > > person > > > > ,so > > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > > combines > > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > > even > > > i > > > > find > > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > > it ,yogies > > > > were > > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > > whole ,here > > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > > miserable > > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > > for is > > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > > not > > > want > > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > > remedies > > > > ,for > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > remedies > > > which > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > discussion > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > > ships and > > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > > this > > > > birth > > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > > hav no > > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > > less > > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > > uses . > > > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > > teach > > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > > matchting > > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > > and > > > > what > > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > bursar_99@ > > > > ..> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > > each > > > > pada > > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > > scripts > > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > > the > > > > natives > > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > > with an > > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > > important > > > > factor > > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > > following > > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > > minimum of > > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > > factor > > > in > > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > > there > > > for > > > > the > > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > > dosh > > > and > > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > > centain > > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > > the > > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > > nothing > > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > > knowledge > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > > dosha and > > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > > swift > > > in > > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > > proper > > > match > > > > > is > > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > > stnght > > > > of > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > > exceptions and > > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > > lagna is > > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > > happening > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > > is > > > too > > > > much > > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > > professional > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > > of the > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > > dixit " > > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > > time > > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > > shettle > > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > > facing > > > > nadi > > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar Definitely the exceptions are very important, most of them are listed in Prashna Marga. Finally the Prashna is very important as we can omit something in the process. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > Dear Rafel ji, > > thanks for the overview > > I hope u can start a thread for each koota and say > > its significance > > if it is lacking any balancing ones in other kootas > > and they too need a min % to be effective > > what r the exceptions as most rules will have a exception or two > > thanks > > prashant > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> > > <%40> > Friday, September 19, 2008 1:31:47 PM > Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant, Namaskar > > As written by other members there are different traditions which pay > more attention to different kootas. > > In our parampara we stick to astha koota for psychological unity. Every > koota has importance for various areas of life. Like Rajju is important > for children, seperation, longevity, Rasi is important for support, > Ghatak for psychological hurting, Yoni for sexuality etc. > > Then there is also karma (upapada/seventh bhava/lords/ navamsa) and > Muhurta. There is also love aspects which is described in Prashna Marga. > Definitely Muhurta classics and Prasna Marga are good start for this > topic. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > > > Dear Rafel ji > > > > I hope u can expand for the benefit of young members [in the subject] > > the doshas attributed to lack of a point in all the kootas > > > > say now Rajju what will be the min needed and if low any other > > compensating, or balancing points within kootas for each of the > > missing ones > > > > say for Nadi,, Guna, rajju, stree dheerga, yoni, gana, mahendra etc... > > > > u can start a new thread on each of them with a prefix on kootas++and > > all of us are ware Kiotas r a primary filter and the horoscopes must > > be compatible as well mere good scores in points is no guarentee. > > > > this is a statutory warning like smking ciggretes r injurious to > > health [for the SHY super experts to note that v r not missing anything] > > > > prashant > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme %40wp.pl> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51:59 PM > > Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Srinivas , Namaskar > > > > Its bad for sambandha when lords are the same. Its rajju dosha. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > srinivasa murthy adavi pisze: > > > > > > Dear Girishji, > > > Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if > > > nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > > > > > srinivas > > > Quoting bursar_99 <bursar_ 99%40. com>: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Girish, > > > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > > > vrkishnan > > > with regards > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> wrote: > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> > > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prashant ji, > > > > > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > > > if : > > > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > > > is lord of rasi in both charts. > > > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > > > are different. > > > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > > > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > > > > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > > > > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > > > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > > > > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > > > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > > > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > > > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > > > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > > > by the couple after the marriage > > > > > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > > > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > > > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Girish > > > > > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > > > novices here. > > > > > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > > > learned members will dwell on this > > > > > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > > > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > > > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > > > nakshatras involved > > > > > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > > > way > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > > > you > > > > at least. > > > > > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > > > between > > > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > > > and > > > > i dont > > > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > > > memebrs > > > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > > > is > > > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > > > reality > > > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > > > succesful > > > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > > > understand > > > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > > > teach him > > > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > > > let me > > > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > > > ,,.. for > > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > > remedies > > > > which > > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > > discussion > > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > > > then ask > > > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > > > feel a > > > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > > > help, > > > > he > > > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > > > cover > > > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > > > they > > > > will > > > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > > > in > > > > the > > > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > > > explain > > > > as > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > > > the > > > > > areas > > > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > > > happeneing > > > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > > > person > > > > > ,so > > > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > > > combines > > > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > > > even > > > > i > > > > > find > > > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > > > it ,yogies > > > > > were > > > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > > > whole ,here > > > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > > > miserable > > > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > > > for is > > > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > > > not > > > > want > > > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > > > remedies > > > > > ,for > > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > > remedies > > > > which > > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > > discussion > > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > > > ships and > > > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > > > this > > > > > birth > > > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > > > hav no > > > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > > > less > > > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > > > uses . > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > > > teach > > > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > > > matchting > > > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > > > and > > > > > what > > > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > > bursar_99@ > > > > > ..> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > > > each > > > > > pada > > > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > > > scripts > > > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > > > the > > > > > natives > > > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > > > with an > > > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > > > important > > > > > factor > > > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > > > following > > > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > > > minimum of > > > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > > > factor > > > > in > > > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > > > there > > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > > > dosh > > > > and > > > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > > > centain > > > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > > > the > > > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > > > dosha and > > > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > > > swift > > > > in > > > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > > > proper > > > > match > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > > > stnght > > > > > of > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > > > exceptions and > > > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > > > lagna is > > > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > > > happening > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > > > is > > > > too > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > > > professional > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > > > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > > > of the > > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > > > dixit " > > > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > > > time > > > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > > > shettle > > > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > > > facing > > > > > nadi > > > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > > > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Dear Shri Rafel Ji, His something very informative that that the topic of KOOTA also forms part of Prashna Marg. We know about Vivah Prakarana and also significance various nakshtras for compatibility purpose. Infact the whole concept is more than a vedic jyotish approach,is a kind of study made by Pundits involved in performing rituals and fixing muhurta . If we go through muhurta chintamani lots of events on the basis of nakshtras have been covered. of these ,issues of common and day to day importance are also covered in Panchang in a routine. The basis for all these matters is certainly not from vedic jyotish.,though Prahna has a reference in Phala Deepika vrkishnan --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 Friday, September 19, 2008, 6:19 AM *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant , Namaskar Definitely the exceptions are very important, most of them are listed in Prashna Marga. Finally the Prashna is very important as we can omit something in the process. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > Dear Rafel ji, > > thanks for the overview > > I hope u can start a thread for each koota and say > > its significance > > if it is lacking any balancing ones in other kootas > > and they too need a min % to be effective > > what r the exceptions as most rules will have a exception or two > > thanks > > prashant > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme %40wp.pl> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > Friday, September 19, 2008 1:31:47 PM > Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Prashant, Namaskar > > As written by other members there are different traditions which pay > more attention to different kootas. > > In our parampara we stick to astha koota for psychological unity. Every > koota has importance for various areas of life. Like Rajju is important > for children, seperation, longevity, Rasi is important for support, > Ghatak for psychological hurting, Yoni for sexuality etc. > > Then there is also karma (upapada/seventh bhava/lords/ navamsa) and > Muhurta. There is also love aspects which is described in Prashna Marga. > Definitely Muhurta classics and Prasna Marga are good start for this > topic. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > > > Dear Rafel ji > > > > I hope u can expand for the benefit of young members [in the subject] > > the doshas attributed to lack of a point in all the kootas > > > > say now Rajju what will be the min needed and if low any other > > compensating, or balancing points within kootas for each of the > > missing ones > > > > say for Nadi,, Guna, rajju, stree dheerga, yoni, gana, mahendra etc... > > > > u can start a new thread on each of them with a prefix on kootas++and > > all of us are ware Kiotas r a primary filter and the horoscopes must > > be compatible as well mere good scores in points is no guarentee. > > > > this is a statutory warning like smking ciggretes r injurious to > > health [for the SHY super experts to note that v r not missing anything] > > > > prashant > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl <starsuponme %40wp.pl> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > Friday, September 19, 2008 12:51:59 PM > > Re: Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > > Dear Srinivas , Namaskar > > > > Its bad for sambandha when lords are the same. Its rajju dosha. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > > > srinivasa murthy adavi pisze: > > > > > > Dear Girishji, > > > Thanks for nice information. Please clarify on the point (3)is it if > > > nakshatra lords are same but raasi signs are different? > > > > > > srinivas > > > Quoting bursar_99 <bursar_ 99%40. com>: > > > > > > > Dear Shri Girish, > > > Very Very useful and educative posting to understand jyotish > > > vrkishnan > > > with regards > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> wrote: > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ .co. in > > > <girish_ raheja%40. co.in>> > > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:34 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Prashant ji, > > > > > > In North India the naadi dosh is ignored by traditional astrologers > > > if : > > > [ 1 ] if the rasi lords of couple are mutual friends or same planet > > > is lord of rasi in both charts. > > > [2] If signs / Raashi of both bride and groom are same but Nakshatra > > > are different. > > > [3] If Nakshatra of both are same but signs are different. > > > [4] If Nakshtra are same but their Pada / Charanas are different. > > > > > > The parihar of naadi dosh suggested is : > > > > > > [ a ] The remedy is done for the placement of Rahu in both the > > > kundalis i.e. the kundali of the bride and the groom. > > > > > > [ b ]At the time of kanyadaan { time when the father gives the hand > > > of the bride to the groom } the father of the bride should gift two > > > square pieces of silver to the couple after a proper sankalp. Of > > > these two pieces one should always be kept at home by the couple and > > > should never be sold. The other piece should be immersed in a river > > > by the couple after the marriage > > > > > > [ c ] The bride is first married to Saligram and then to the groom. > > > The presiding pundit will perform the rituals of marriage with > > > Saligram first and then with the groom. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Girish > > > > > > > > at least a post on the subject has come in some detail for the > > > novices here. > > > > > > > > there r exemptions to this too as any rule I hope u and other > > > learned members will dwell on this > > > > > > > > say Pushya, Anuradha or U Bhadra though all Madhya nadi under some > > > rules a few nakshatras get nadi exemption. [i sm not talking of a > > > exemption to this group of stars either, it is a example] > > > > and in some cases as u said there is a parihara specific to > > > nakshatras involved > > > > > > > > pl be free to share what u know in a open, frank and less personal > > > way > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > girish_raheja <girish_raheja@ ...> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:26:28 PM > > > > Re: nadi dosh 16/9 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > You said, " as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i > > > > cant teach him so was asking for more illumination " > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right. I do not have any thing to learn from > > > you > > > > at least. > > > > > > > > Naadi dosh while matching horoscopes has nothing to do with > > > > Ayurvedic naadi [ pulse ]. At the metaphysical level it is > > > > associated with Ida, Pingala and Sushumna. > > > > > > > > Naadi is associated with nakshatra. 27 nakshatra are devided > > > between > > > > three naadis, namely aadi, madhya and antya. Therefore matching a > > > > naadi is basically finding compatibility between people born under > > > > three differents sets of nakshatra. > > > > > > > > People born in the nakshatra of the same naadi do not match. > > > > > > > > A person born with aadi naadi will match well with those born in > > > > madhya or antya naadi. A person born in the nakshatra of madhya > > > > naadi will be compatible with those born in the nakshatra of aadi > > > > and antya nadi nakshtra.Similarly those born in the nakshatra > > > > associated with antya naadi will be compatible with those born in > > > > the nakshatra of aadi and madhya naadi. > > > > > > > > The parihar suggested for a naadi mismatch is again based on the > > > > nakshatra and not on Ayurveda. > > > > > > > > However you have every right to have your own views. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > dear prashanth ji > > > > > > > > > > abhookta moola discussion and remedies happened another grp > > > and > > > > i dont > > > > > want to name the grp that is why i used ur name where u and me r > > > > memebrs > > > > > .hope now u may recollect it .some one psted a chart thinking it > > > is > > > > > abhookta moola and done remedies too ( some 34 yrs b4 ) ,but in > > > > reality > > > > > it was not .so what abt remedies and it will b termed as > > > succesful > > > > > remedies by laymen,so i was pointing the need for first realy > > > > understand > > > > > the chart b4 jumping to remedies > > > > > > > > > > as regrds to raheja ji he said i am wrong ,so u know i cant > > > > teach him > > > > > so was asking for more illumination > > > > > > > > > > i will not teach some one who knows everything > > > > > > > > > > rgerds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil > > > > > > > > > > > > if u quoted me as being part of this thread that toorecent one > > > > let me > > > > > know which one u r referring to > > > > > > ,,.. for > > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > > remedies > > > > which > > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > > discussion > > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) //.. > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > about Nadi's reply to girish u cud have been more explict and > > > > then ask > > > > > a question that is give all u hinted in a later mail and then ask > > > > > > a counter question can be more misleading and personally I > > > feel a > > > > > simple rely to start with like sri krishnan ji is doing will > > > help, > > > > he > > > > > goes to next level if need be/asked > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter how much or how little we know as long as we > > > > cover > > > > > the question as most of querrents can't tell the difference. > > > they > > > > will > > > > > look for answers > > > > > > > > > > > > what little i know of girish is retired man with some reading > > > in > > > > the > > > > > subject so surely he can undertand something more if u can > > > explain > > > > as > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:31:14 PM > > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > dear krishnan ji > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, even we can fine tune this dosha and even see where can b > > > > the > > > > > areas > > > > > > this afflictions can work out .but we shud think that this > > > > happeneing > > > > > > only as dosha or guna when we match with some person ,not all > > > > person > > > > > ,so > > > > > > it is not a astrological dosha .( many also forget astrology > > > > combines > > > > > > all knowledge and all knowledge in india used astrology too > > > even > > > > i > > > > > find > > > > > > ayurvedic physicians used it exhastively .tantrics used > > > > it ,yogies > > > > > were > > > > > > using it ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Also so many rules are there and we shud take charts as > > > > whole ,here > > > > > > ppl r talking abt some thing bookish and just make others life > > > > > miserable > > > > > > without knowing wat is it and wat it can giv also need to look > > > > for is > > > > > > there is any exceptions in chart itself . > > > > > > > > > > > > ( many parihara or upaya discussion i find some charts need > > > not > > > > want > > > > > > upayas and we find they r described as succesful usage of > > > > remedies > > > > > ,for > > > > > > exmaple the last discussion on abhookta moola gandanta > > > remedies > > > > which > > > > > > giv lot of controversy too ( prashanth ji also was a party in > > > > > discussion > > > > > > tho he was silent most of the time ) > > > > > > > > > > > > even i hav seen some astrologers uses poorva janam realtion > > > > ships and > > > > > > does matchting ,like souls wanted to meet as man and wife in > > > this > > > > > birth > > > > > > ,but points may b low .so many may reject the match .but they > > > > hav no > > > > > > explanation abt how many succesfully married ppl r there with > > > > less > > > > > > points ,reason is mechanical adoption of rishi horas than real > > > > uses . > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my favrte area of study too .here some ppl r trying to > > > > teach > > > > > > matchting to me where as i know upto 23 relevent points in > > > > matchting > > > > > > than this prominent south indian or north indian one . > > > > > > > > > > > > still exploring for more expnce and we can only rely on rishis > > > > and > > > > > what > > > > > > they taught us . > > > > > > > > > > > > thank u sir > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > , vattem krishnan > > > > bursar_99@ > > > > > ..> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nair Ji, > > > > > > > Good point.r u referring to the divisions of 3.40 degrees of > > > > each > > > > > pada > > > > > > of nakshtra and further divisons.The references made in ancient > > > > > scripts > > > > > > prticulalry sapta nadi brings about these aspects to idenify > > > the > > > > > natives > > > > > > based on some physical data impressions. > > > > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > > > > > Re: nadi dosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear raheja ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is nadi ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " girish_raheja " > > > > > > > <girish_raheja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are mistaken. Naadi dosh is an astrological dosh to be > > > > > > > > considered at the time of marriage. It has nothing to do > > > > with an > > > > > > > > Ayurved dosh in this context. Naadi dosh is a very > > > important > > > > > factor > > > > > > > > in horoscope matching for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In North India a horoscope for marriage is matched on the > > > > > following > > > > > > > > 8 factors : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ 1 ] Varna > value 1 point > > > > > > > > [ 2 ] Vasya > value 2 > > > > > > > > [ 3 ] taara > value 3 > > > > > > > > [ 4 ] yoni > value 4 > > > > > > > > [ 5 ] grah maitri > value 5 > > > > > > > > [ 6 ] gan maitri > value 6 > > > > > > > > [ 7 ] bhakoot > value 7 > > > > > > > > [ 8 ] naadi > value 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The total of the above is 36. They are known as Guna. A > > > > minimum of > > > > > > > > 18 guna should be present for a horoscope to match. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of this 36 points or guna the naadi is worth 8 points. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore in North India naadi is the most important > > > factor > > > > in > > > > > > > > horoscope matching. Therefore a naadi match has to be > > > there > > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > marriage to take place. Yes, there are Parihar for this > > > dosh > > > > and > > > > > > > > people do those Parihar before the marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe the south India horoscope matching might be > > > > different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish Raheja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > > > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Prashant dixit ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am yet to make ur brothers chart .but woud like to giv > > > > centain > > > > > > > > > clarifications . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi dosha and mangal dosh etc may pop up depending on > > > the > > > > > > > > chart of > > > > > > > > > the girl we r seeing while marriage matchting .There is > > > > nothing > > > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > > > in it .But the problem here is some just uses bookish > > > > knowledge > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > this matchting is concenred ,nadi dosh is an ayurvedic > > > > dosha and > > > > > > > > mangal > > > > > > > > > dosha is dosha for marriage ( as mangal is kumar and > > > swift > > > > in > > > > > > > > action so > > > > > > > > > ppl dreaded abt it ) ,so all this can b solved only > > > proper > > > > match > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > avalible under exprnced hands . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another thing is that depending on over all position and > > > > stnght > > > > > of > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > and girls chart came for matchting there are some > > > > exceptions and > > > > > > > > even we > > > > > > > > > can use lagna sookshma nakshtra and its matchting .as > > > > lagna is > > > > > > > > smallest > > > > > > > > > unit which can more adress any problems in life as it is > > > > > happening > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > 2hrs window where as moon rasi is for 2 1/4 days which > > > is > > > > too > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > general . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice is if u wanted to help urself go for real > > > > professional > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > than running around in grps again ur wish and > > > will . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is more knowledgeble person in grp and i leav rest > > > > of the > > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > > > > query to them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " prashant > > > dixit " > > > > > > > > > <prashantdixit4@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pranam guru ji my brother name praveen dob 18-12-1975, > > > > time > > > > > > 11:25 > > > > > > > > > > am,birth place bhilai,c.g not yet to got married he is > > > > shettle > > > > > > > > in us > > > > > > > > > > as s/f engineer, he got some nice propsal but we are > > > > facing > > > > > nadi > > > > > > > > > > dosh or mangal dosh that kind problam > > > > > > > > > > he want merry as soon as early but he don 't want non > > > > > > > > > > professional girl. > > > > > > > > > > please guide me guru ji then i am able help to my > > > > > > > > > > brother, that is really nice > > > > > > > > > > religious person.when we got right match or wedding > > > news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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