Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Dear Krishna ji a good reply thanks for posting sri KNR's views too how do u see her kendras and its lords where they r, this is a strange chart do u apply Mrityu Bhagas? here I did and found Guru in Simha in a MB so its dasa did not give conjugal life, children, NOW SANI dasa is on and its dispositor is Guru again so same result possible apart from the 5th house being so awefully aflicted with 3 malefics rahu+kuja+sani and such a sani aspecting the 7th house please throw some light on this as well and any clues KNR's research has on such aflictions how do we see this wit the 5th lord Poorva punadipathi so placed in 6/8 to the house and its occupants all papis thanks orashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 Monday, September 15, 2008 5:09:36 PM Re: please help 12/9 Dear Prashant ji, In the Case of 2nd Marriage what becomes important is the Dasha.Saturn' s Dasha is most dsirable for divorcees and widowers. Placement of Saturn too matters and relationship with 7th house and 7th lord. Frankly: Matching of the horoscope in traditional way is not relevant Matching is ideal only in those cases where parents are concerned and adhere to traditional approach. where two persons agree to keep relationships and desire to get married.Astrologers have no role to play as it is " Gandharva Vivaham " Even KN Rao school of thought exhorts not for bindus and for matching.They emphaisi for sustenance of marriage. As far as having children I agree with you it is of least consideration. Even we have to agree to the present day arrangement f living together,ievn if it not institutionalised through sepcific approach. Importance of 8th for the girl can not be ignored as mangalay sthanam.Rest of the factors like mony and other things and out look of persons and cpmpatibility we need to look from navamsa and palcement of lagna lord in navamsa sign. These traditional approaches are yet vital to arrive at understanding of the native and the affliction of 7th house. In all 2nd marraiges it is affliction of the 7th lord and 7th house which become very important. Today only I read in Star Teller,that based on time and nirayana time,(depending on sun's position)7th house can be worked out statistically/ mathematically. It is is given in Star Teller Edition November2007. In this chart of the native timing for marraige in Sun's dasa/anatar is not advisable.Yet in the case of transit jupiter for girl has to be important. vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: please help 12/9 Cc: " Arati Arati " <aratiagain (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM Dear Krishna ji the kootas and or horoscope matching or just once we hit a road block on the kootas should we give up charts matching? that is I mean once we get past the half way mark on Kootas can we look at the mutual charts strenght and collective one to be partners or drop it once the 2 nadi and graha mitra are not there in spite of half way mark. some vernacular ones have given exceptions on some kootas what will u advice normally and more so in cases of 2 divorcees as a chart comparison can suggest if they have their own children still age catching up at least for the female-nature has set clock too close.. what has KN Rao ji said on matching ? I hope u can throw some light as well.as u've been close to him I have normally used the avg kootas and overlooked some of the doshas if this is noth the right way let me know, sould correct myself my focus in astrology has been health and finance, family, children are becoming irrelevant most instutuions r decaying beyond repair. but till it lasts we have to do our job in the traditional concerns as well. thanks prashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Friday, September 12, 2008 8:44:33 AM Re: please help Arati ji, Prashna addresses specific aspects and longterm studies from natal chart in groups are difficult to be advised. group is interested in knowing astrological issues but not denying the opinions given by others based on astrological guideleines. ..nadi dosha and and graha maitri are important issues for sustenance of marital relationships. Nadi kuta reflects on health of couple and more with reference to female chart and rasi kuta helps in understanding of ideals and to have smooth relationships. In the case of 2nd marrige these issues become more relevant. For example anuradha 3rd quarter of boy of saturn is mild and hesitant and apprehensive nature like a deer and migasira makes people always cautious,nocturnal and ready to strike back like a snake.particularly does not provide yoni kuta. like wise both are having same tatwa like pitta based on nakshtras.but better two have different nadis in astrology.It is suggested by Astrologers. Even this combinations leads to different rajjus mrigasira is siro rajju. BV Raman in his book of Matching Charts characterises badly about siro rajju. Boys weak moon with lagna lord mars retrograde and in navamsa aspecting venus in sagittarus a fiery sign is not really conducive.dasa lord venus in the sign of mars with saturn in kutumba sthan needs day to understanding and reconciliatory approaches vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 9/10/08, arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> wrote: arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> please help Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:39 PM Respected gurujis I am in a troubled situation my horoscope was rejected for a match as it was said that i had the naadi dosha and no graha mithra this has upset me a great deal and i request your valuable opinion female dob-7/3/1968 pob - new delhi tob 1154pm( 2354) this was matched against the horoscope of siva male dob 27/06/1969 pob calcutta tob1150pm (2350) it was going to be second marriage for both of us and we were looking forward to it.Now due to the opinion of an astrologer everything is collapsing please guide us thanking you in advance sincerely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Dear Sir, Mrityu bhagas are very important at the time when the first marraige could not last long.In 2nd marraige it looks to be girl is interestd but not Astrologers supporting the view.Not ofcourse their intention. K.N.Rao views that in all cases including dasa of the boy is comapible with that of Girl( sani dasa) 2nd marraige has some significance even if one sets aside children.Here emotional attachement for one or other reason through planets is not visible.5th and 5th to fifth too are also not in tune with each other I have just seen plansts avsthas and then their progression in navamas(both of them together) and could finally feel that if they take some more time and understand each other well(hopefully by that time transit of jupiter to capricron) it is possible for them to go ahead for 2nd marraige. If you also see 10th hous eof the girl and boy,how both of them will be in future can be arrived at. vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: please help 15/9 Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:54 AM Dear Krishna ji a good reply thanks for posting sri KNR's views too how do u see her kendras and its lords where they r, this is a strange chart do u apply Mrityu Bhagas? here I did and found Guru in Simha in a MB so its dasa did not give conjugal life, children, NOW SANI dasa is on and its dispositor is Guru again so same result possible apart from the 5th house being so awefully aflicted with 3 malefics rahu+kuja+sani and such a sani aspecting the 7th house please throw some light on this as well and any clues KNR's research has on such aflictions how do we see this wit the 5th lord Poorva punadipathi so placed in 6/8 to the house and its occupants all papis thanks orashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Monday, September 15, 2008 5:09:36 PM Re: please help 12/9 Dear Prashant ji, In the Case of 2nd Marriage what becomes important is the Dasha.Saturn' s Dasha is most dsirable for divorcees and widowers. Placement of Saturn too matters and relationship with 7th house and 7th lord. Frankly: Matching of the horoscope in traditional way is not relevant Matching is ideal only in those cases where parents are concerned and adhere to traditional approach. where two persons agree to keep relationships and desire to get married.Astrologers have no role to play as it is " Gandharva Vivaham " Even KN Rao school of thought exhorts not for bindus and for matching.They emphaisi for sustenance of marriage. As far as having children I agree with you it is of least consideration. Even we have to agree to the present day arrangement f living together,ievn if it not institutionalised through sepcific approach. Importance of 8th for the girl can not be ignored as mangalay sthanam.Rest of the factors like mony and other things and out look of persons and cpmpatibility we need to look from navamsa and palcement of lagna lord in navamsa sign. These traditional approaches are yet vital to arrive at understanding of the native and the affliction of 7th house. In all 2nd marraiges it is affliction of the 7th lord and 7th house which become very important. Today only I read in Star Teller,that based on time and nirayana time,(depending on sun's position)7th house can be worked out statistically/ mathematically. It is is given in Star Teller Edition November2007. In this chart of the native timing for marraige in Sun's dasa/anatar is not advisable.Yet in the case of transit jupiter for girl has to be important. vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: please help 12/9 Cc: " Arati Arati " <aratiagain@ gmail. com> Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM Dear Krishna ji the kootas and or horoscope matching or just once we hit a road block on the kootas should we give up charts matching? that is I mean once we get past the half way mark on Kootas can we look at the mutual charts strenght and collective one to be partners or drop it once the 2 nadi and graha mitra are not there in spite of half way mark. some vernacular ones have given exceptions on some kootas what will u advice normally and more so in cases of 2 divorcees as a chart comparison can suggest if they have their own children still age catching up at least for the female-nature has set clock too close.. what has KN Rao ji said on matching ? I hope u can throw some light as well.as u've been close to him I have normally used the avg kootas and overlooked some of the doshas if this is noth the right way let me know, sould correct myself my focus in astrology has been health and finance, family, children are becoming irrelevant most instutuions r decaying beyond repair. but till it lasts we have to do our job in the traditional concerns as well. thanks prashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Friday, September 12, 2008 8:44:33 AM Re: please help Arati ji, Prashna addresses specific aspects and longterm studies from natal chart in groups are difficult to be advised. group is interested in knowing astrological issues but not denying the opinions given by others based on astrological guideleines. ..nadi dosha and and graha maitri are important issues for sustenance of marital relationships. Nadi kuta reflects on health of couple and more with reference to female chart and rasi kuta helps in understanding of ideals and to have smooth relationships. In the case of 2nd marrige these issues become more relevant. For example anuradha 3rd quarter of boy of saturn is mild and hesitant and apprehensive nature like a deer and migasira makes people always cautious,nocturnal and ready to strike back like a snake.particularly does not provide yoni kuta. like wise both are having same tatwa like pitta based on nakshtras.but better two have different nadis in astrology.It is suggested by Astrologers. Even this combinations leads to different rajjus mrigasira is siro rajju. BV Raman in his book of Matching Charts characterises badly about siro rajju. Boys weak moon with lagna lord mars retrograde and in navamsa aspecting venus in sagittarus a fiery sign is not really conducive.dasa lord venus in the sign of mars with saturn in kutumba sthan needs day to understanding and reconciliatory approaches vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 9/10/08, arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> wrote: arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> please help Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:39 PM Respected gurujis I am in a troubled situation my horoscope was rejected for a match as it was said that i had the naadi dosha and no graha mithra this has upset me a great deal and i request your valuable opinion female dob-7/3/1968 pob - new delhi tob 1154pm( 2354) this was matched against the horoscope of siva male dob 27/06/1969 pob calcutta tob1150pm (2350) it was going to be second marriage for both of us and we were looking forward to it.Now due to the opinion of an astrologer everything is collapsing please guide us thanking you in advance sincerely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Arati , Namaskar Yes, graha maitra (from chandra) is lacking in girls chart due to distance between Mo and Me (Me dont like Mo and they are not forming tatkalika sambandha - so enemies). Moon of Girl is also in 12H from boy's moon which is inauspicious. Lagna ganas are compatible. In Naga Nadi both are in madhya which is bad - this is bad for need of space of couple. Dina is good. There is also bad Lagnesh matching and girl is ghatak for boy - so generally not so happy married life. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal vattem krishnan pisze: > > Dear Sir, > Mrityu bhagas are very important at the time when the first marraige > could not last long.In 2nd marraige it looks to be girl is interestd > but not Astrologers supporting the view.Not ofcourse their intention. > K.N.Rao views that in all cases including dasa of the boy is comapible > with that of Girl( sani dasa) 2nd marraige has some significance even > if one sets aside children.Here emotional attachement for one or other > reason through planets is not visible.5th and 5th to fifth too are > also not in tune with each other > I have just seen plansts avsthas and then their progression in > navamas(both of them together) and could finally feel that if they > take some more time and understand each other well(hopefully by that > time transit of jupiter to capricron) it is possible for them to go > ahead for 2nd marraige. > If you also see 10th hous eof the girl and boy,how both of them will > be in future can be arrived at. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > <gbp_kumar%40>> wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > <gbp_kumar%40>> > Re: please help 15/9 > > <%40> > Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:54 AM > > Dear Krishna ji > > a good reply thanks for posting sri KNR's views too > > how do u see her kendras and its lords where they r, this is a strange > chart > > do u apply Mrityu Bhagas? here I did and found Guru in Simha in a MB > so its dasa did not give conjugal life, children, NOW SANI dasa is on > and its dispositor is Guru again so same result possible apart from > the 5th house being so awefully aflicted with 3 malefics > rahu+kuja+sani and such a sani aspecting the 7th house > > please throw some light on this as well and any clues KNR's research > has on such aflictions how do we see this > > wit the 5th lord Poorva punadipathi so placed in 6/8 to the house and > its occupants all papis > > thanks > > orashant > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Monday, September 15, 2008 5:09:36 PM > Re: please help 12/9 > > Dear Prashant ji, > In the Case of 2nd Marriage what becomes important is the > Dasha.Saturn' s Dasha is most dsirable for divorcees and widowers. > Placement of Saturn too matters and relationship with 7th house and > 7th lord. > Frankly: > Matching of the horoscope in traditional way is not relevant > Matching is ideal only in those cases where parents are concerned and > adhere to traditional approach. > where two persons agree to keep relationships and desire to get > married.Astrologers have no role to play as it is " Gandharva Vivaham " > Even KN Rao school of thought exhorts not for bindus and for > matching.They emphaisi for sustenance of marriage. > As far as having children I agree with you it is of least > consideration. Even we have to agree to the present day arrangement f > living together,ievn if it not institutionalised through sepcific > approach. > Importance of 8th for the girl can not be ignored as mangalay > sthanam.Rest of the factors like mony and other things and out look of > persons and cpmpatibility we need to look from navamsa and palcement > of lagna lord in navamsa sign. > These traditional approaches are yet vital to arrive at understanding > of the native and the affliction of 7th house. > In all 2nd marraiges it is affliction of the 7th lord and 7th house > which become very important. > Today only I read in Star Teller,that based on time and nirayana > time,(depending on sun's position)7th house can be worked out > statistically/ mathematically. It is is given in Star Teller Edition > November2007. > In this chart of the native timing for marraige in Sun's dasa/anatar > is not advisable.Yet in the case of transit jupiter for girl has to be > important. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: please help 12/9 > > Cc: " Arati Arati " <aratiagain@ gmail. com> > Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM > > Dear Krishna ji > > the kootas and or horoscope matching or just once we hit a road block > on the kootas should we give up charts matching? that is I mean once > we get past the half way mark on Kootas can we look at the mutual > charts strenght and collective one to be partners or drop it once the > 2 nadi and graha mitra are not there in spite of half way mark. some > vernacular ones have given exceptions on some kootas > > what will u advice normally and more so in cases of 2 divorcees > > as a chart comparison can suggest if they have their own children > still age catching up at least for the female-nature has set clock too > close.. > > what has KN Rao ji said on matching ? I hope u can throw some light as > well.as u've been close to him > > I have normally used the avg kootas and overlooked some of the doshas > if this is noth the right way let me know, sould correct myself > > my focus in astrology has been health and finance, family, children > are becoming irrelevant most instutuions r decaying beyond repair. but > till it lasts we have to do our job in the traditional concerns as well. > > thanks > > prashant > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Friday, September 12, 2008 8:44:33 AM > Re: please help > > Arati ji, > Prashna addresses specific aspects and longterm studies from natal > chart in groups are difficult to be advised. > group is interested in knowing astrological issues but not denying the > opinions given by others based on astrological guideleines. > > .nadi dosha and and graha maitri are important issues for sustenance > of marital relationships. > Nadi kuta reflects on health of couple and more with reference to > female chart and rasi kuta helps in understanding of ideals and to > have smooth relationships. In the case of 2nd marrige these issues > become more relevant. > > For example anuradha 3rd quarter of boy of saturn is mild and hesitant > and apprehensive nature like a deer and migasira makes people always > cautious,nocturnal and ready to strike back like a snake.particularly > does not provide yoni kuta. > like wise both are having same tatwa like pitta based on nakshtras.but > better two have different nadis in astrology.It is suggested by > Astrologers. > > Even this combinations leads to different rajjus mrigasira is siro > rajju. BV Raman in his book of Matching Charts characterises badly > about siro rajju. > Boys weak moon with lagna lord mars retrograde and in navamsa > aspecting venus in sagittarus a fiery sign is not really > conducive.dasa lord venus in the sign of mars with saturn in kutumba > sthan needs day to understanding and reconciliatory approaches > > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> wrote: > > arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> > please help > > Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:39 PM > > Respected gurujis > I am in a troubled situation > my horoscope was rejected for a match as it was said that i had the > naadi dosha and no graha mithra > this has upset me a great deal and i request your valuable opinion > > female > dob-7/3/1968 > pob - new delhi > tob 1154pm( 2354) > > this was matched against the horoscope of siva > male > dob 27/06/1969 > pob calcutta > tob1150pm (2350) > > it was going to be second marriage for both of us and we were looking > forward to it.Now due to the opinion of an astrologer everything is > collapsing > > please guide us > > thanking you in advance > sincerely > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Dear Krishna ji thanks for the reply it is interesting to know the legendary mans views too AND happy ur able to share it with th group NOW WHEN i MEANT how r the kendras and ITS ADIPATHIS PLACEMENT INFLUEINCING the respective houses she is a Doctor and if she has to relocate in US she has to start all over again with a few more years of study, if this has to go thru as he is in US, either she chooses a diff field or a diff man it appears as sani will make her slog for a living can't see a house wife status isn't it? prashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 Monday, September 15, 2008 6:33:32 PM Re: please help 15/9 Dear Sir, Mrityu bhagas are very important at the time when the first marraige could not last long.In 2nd marraige it looks to be girl is interestd but not Astrologers supporting the view.Not ofcourse their intention. K.N.Rao views that in all cases including dasa of the boy is comapible with that of Girl( sani dasa) 2nd marraige has some significance even if one sets aside children.Here emotional attachement for one or other reason through planets is not visible.5th and 5th to fifth too are also not in tune with each other I have just seen plansts avsthas and then their progression in navamas(both of them together) and could finally feel that if they take some more time and understand each other well(hopefully by that time transit of jupiter to capricron) it is possible for them to go ahead for 2nd marraige. If you also see 10th hous eof the girl and boy,how both of them will be in future can be arrived at. vrkrishnan --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: please help 15/9 Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:54 AM Dear Krishna ji a good reply thanks for posting sri KNR's views too how do u see her kendras and its lords where they r, this is a strange chart do u apply Mrityu Bhagas? here I did and found Guru in Simha in a MB so its dasa did not give conjugal life, children, NOW SANI dasa is on and its dispositor is Guru again so same result possible apart from the 5th house being so awefully aflicted with 3 malefics rahu+kuja+sani and such a sani aspecting the 7th house please throw some light on this as well and any clues KNR's research has on such aflictions how do we see this wit the 5th lord Poorva punadipathi so placed in 6/8 to the house and its occupants all papis thanks orashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Monday, September 15, 2008 5:09:36 PM Re: please help 12/9 Dear Prashant ji, In the Case of 2nd Marriage what becomes important is the Dasha.Saturn' s Dasha is most dsirable for divorcees and widowers. Placement of Saturn too matters and relationship with 7th house and 7th lord. Frankly: Matching of the horoscope in traditional way is not relevant Matching is ideal only in those cases where parents are concerned and adhere to traditional approach. where two persons agree to keep relationships and desire to get married.Astrologers have no role to play as it is " Gandharva Vivaham " Even KN Rao school of thought exhorts not for bindus and for matching.They emphaisi for sustenance of marriage. As far as having children I agree with you it is of least consideration. Even we have to agree to the present day arrangement f living together,ievn if it not institutionalised through sepcific approach. Importance of 8th for the girl can not be ignored as mangalay sthanam.Rest of the factors like mony and other things and out look of persons and cpmpatibility we need to look from navamsa and palcement of lagna lord in navamsa sign. These traditional approaches are yet vital to arrive at understanding of the native and the affliction of 7th house. In all 2nd marraiges it is affliction of the 7th lord and 7th house which become very important. Today only I read in Star Teller,that based on time and nirayana time,(depending on sun's position)7th house can be worked out statistically/ mathematically. It is is given in Star Teller Edition November2007. In this chart of the native timing for marraige in Sun's dasa/anatar is not advisable.Yet in the case of transit jupiter for girl has to be important. vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: please help 12/9 Cc: " Arati Arati " <aratiagain@ gmail. com> Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM Dear Krishna ji the kootas and or horoscope matching or just once we hit a road block on the kootas should we give up charts matching? that is I mean once we get past the half way mark on Kootas can we look at the mutual charts strenght and collective one to be partners or drop it once the 2 nadi and graha mitra are not there in spite of half way mark. some vernacular ones have given exceptions on some kootas what will u advice normally and more so in cases of 2 divorcees as a chart comparison can suggest if they have their own children still age catching up at least for the female-nature has set clock too close.. what has KN Rao ji said on matching ? I hope u can throw some light as well.as u've been close to him I have normally used the avg kootas and overlooked some of the doshas if this is noth the right way let me know, sould correct myself my focus in astrology has been health and finance, family, children are becoming irrelevant most instutuions r decaying beyond repair. but till it lasts we have to do our job in the traditional concerns as well. thanks prashant vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > Friday, September 12, 2008 8:44:33 AM Re: please help Arati ji, Prashna addresses specific aspects and longterm studies from natal chart in groups are difficult to be advised. group is interested in knowing astrological issues but not denying the opinions given by others based on astrological guideleines. ..nadi dosha and and graha maitri are important issues for sustenance of marital relationships. Nadi kuta reflects on health of couple and more with reference to female chart and rasi kuta helps in understanding of ideals and to have smooth relationships. In the case of 2nd marrige these issues become more relevant. For example anuradha 3rd quarter of boy of saturn is mild and hesitant and apprehensive nature like a deer and migasira makes people always cautious,nocturnal and ready to strike back like a snake.particularly does not provide yoni kuta. like wise both are having same tatwa like pitta based on nakshtras.but better two have different nadis in astrology.It is suggested by Astrologers. Even this combinations leads to different rajjus mrigasira is siro rajju. BV Raman in his book of Matching Charts characterises badly about siro rajju. Boys weak moon with lagna lord mars retrograde and in navamsa aspecting venus in sagittarus a fiery sign is not really conducive.dasa lord venus in the sign of mars with saturn in kutumba sthan needs day to understanding and reconciliatory approaches vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 9/10/08, arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> wrote: arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> please help Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:39 PM Respected gurujis I am in a troubled situation my horoscope was rejected for a match as it was said that i had the naadi dosha and no graha mithra this has upset me a great deal and i request your valuable opinion female dob-7/3/1968 pob - new delhi tob 1154pm( 2354) this was matched against the horoscope of siva male dob 27/06/1969 pob calcutta tob1150pm (2350) it was going to be second marriage for both of us and we were looking forward to it.Now due to the opinion of an astrologer everything is collapsing please guide us thanking you in advance sincerely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Dear rafel ji a good point on Kutas role, as u see many ppl have been asking this NO NADI match in many groups but dont provide data like this so is sufel to quote this for such members SEEN QUITE A FEW IN PAST 3 YRS in goups now how do u c her work/livelihood path go please see how her kendras and their adipathis influence the result I gave some info in a reply toKrishna ji TOO prashant Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme Monday, September 15, 2008 6:48:28 PM Re: please help 15/9 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Arati , Namaskar Yes, graha maitra (from chandra) is lacking in girls chart due to distance between Mo and Me (Me dont like Mo and they are not forming tatkalika sambandha - so enemies). Moon of Girl is also in 12H from boy's moon which is inauspicious. Lagna ganas are compatible. In Naga Nadi both are in madhya which is bad - this is bad for need of space of couple. Dina is good. There is also bad Lagnesh matching and girl is ghatak for boy - so generally not so happy married life. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com vattem krishnan pisze: > > Dear Sir, > Mrityu bhagas are very important at the time when the first marraige > could not last long.In 2nd marraige it looks to be girl is interestd > but not Astrologers supporting the view.Not ofcourse their intention. > K.N.Rao views that in all cases including dasa of the boy is comapible > with that of Girl( sani dasa) 2nd marraige has some significance even > if one sets aside children.Here emotional attachement for one or other > reason through planets is not visible.5th and 5th to fifth too are > also not in tune with each other > I have just seen plansts avsthas and then their progression in > navamas(both of them together) and could finally feel that if they > take some more time and understand each other well(hopefully by that > time transit of jupiter to capricron) it is possible for them to go > ahead for 2nd marraige. > If you also see 10th hous eof the girl and boy,how both of them will > be in future can be arrived at. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > <gbp_ kumar%40. com>> wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > <gbp_ kumar%40. com>> > Re: please help 15/9 > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:54 AM > > Dear Krishna ji > > a good reply thanks for posting sri KNR's views too > > how do u see her kendras and its lords where they r, this is a strange > chart > > do u apply Mrityu Bhagas? here I did and found Guru in Simha in a MB > so its dasa did not give conjugal life, children, NOW SANI dasa is on > and its dispositor is Guru again so same result possible apart from > the 5th house being so awefully aflicted with 3 malefics > rahu+kuja+sani and such a sani aspecting the 7th house > > please throw some light on this as well and any clues KNR's research > has on such aflictions how do we see this > > wit the 5th lord Poorva punadipathi so placed in 6/8 to the house and > its occupants all papis > > thanks > > orashant > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Monday, September 15, 2008 5:09:36 PM > Re: please help 12/9 > > Dear Prashant ji, > In the Case of 2nd Marriage what becomes important is the > Dasha.Saturn' s Dasha is most dsirable for divorcees and widowers. > Placement of Saturn too matters and relationship with 7th house and > 7th lord. > Frankly: > Matching of the horoscope in traditional way is not relevant > Matching is ideal only in those cases where parents are concerned and > adhere to traditional approach. > where two persons agree to keep relationships and desire to get > married.Astrologers have no role to play as it is " Gandharva Vivaham " > Even KN Rao school of thought exhorts not for bindus and for > matching.They emphaisi for sustenance of marriage. > As far as having children I agree with you it is of least > consideration. Even we have to agree to the present day arrangement f > living together,ievn if it not institutionalised through sepcific > approach. > Importance of 8th for the girl can not be ignored as mangalay > sthanam.Rest of the factors like mony and other things and out look of > persons and cpmpatibility we need to look from navamsa and palcement > of lagna lord in navamsa sign. > These traditional approaches are yet vital to arrive at understanding > of the native and the affliction of 7th house. > In all 2nd marraiges it is affliction of the 7th lord and 7th house > which become very important. > Today only I read in Star Teller,that based on time and nirayana > time,(depending on sun's position)7th house can be worked out > statistically/ mathematically. It is is given in Star Teller Edition > November2007. > In this chart of the native timing for marraige in Sun's dasa/anatar > is not advisable.Yet in the case of transit jupiter for girl has to be > important. > vrkrishnan > > --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Re: please help 12/9 > > Cc: " Arati Arati " <aratiagain@ gmail. com> > Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM > > Dear Krishna ji > > the kootas and or horoscope matching or just once we hit a road block > on the kootas should we give up charts matching? that is I mean once > we get past the half way mark on Kootas can we look at the mutual > charts strenght and collective one to be partners or drop it once the > 2 nadi and graha mitra are not there in spite of half way mark. some > vernacular ones have given exceptions on some kootas > > what will u advice normally and more so in cases of 2 divorcees > > as a chart comparison can suggest if they have their own children > still age catching up at least for the female-nature has set clock too > close.. > > what has KN Rao ji said on matching ? I hope u can throw some light as > well.as u've been close to him > > I have normally used the avg kootas and overlooked some of the doshas > if this is noth the right way let me know, sould correct myself > > my focus in astrology has been health and finance, family, children > are becoming irrelevant most instutuions r decaying beyond repair. but > till it lasts we have to do our job in the traditional concerns as well. > > thanks > > prashant > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Friday, September 12, 2008 8:44:33 AM > Re: please help > > Arati ji, > Prashna addresses specific aspects and longterm studies from natal > chart in groups are difficult to be advised. > group is interested in knowing astrological issues but not denying the > opinions given by others based on astrological guideleines. > > .nadi dosha and and graha maitri are important issues for sustenance > of marital relationships. > Nadi kuta reflects on health of couple and more with reference to > female chart and rasi kuta helps in understanding of ideals and to > have smooth relationships. In the case of 2nd marrige these issues > become more relevant. > > For example anuradha 3rd quarter of boy of saturn is mild and hesitant > and apprehensive nature like a deer and migasira makes people always > cautious,nocturnal and ready to strike back like a snake.particularly > does not provide yoni kuta. > like wise both are having same tatwa like pitta based on nakshtras.but > better two have different nadis in astrology.It is suggested by > Astrologers. > > Even this combinations leads to different rajjus mrigasira is siro > rajju. BV Raman in his book of Matching Charts characterises badly > about siro rajju. > Boys weak moon with lagna lord mars retrograde and in navamsa > aspecting venus in sagittarus a fiery sign is not really > conducive.dasa lord venus in the sign of mars with saturn in kutumba > sthan needs day to understanding and reconciliatory approaches > > vrkrishnan > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> wrote: > > arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> > please help > > Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:39 PM > > Respected gurujis > I am in a troubled situation > my horoscope was rejected for a match as it was said that i had the > naadi dosha and no graha mithra > this has upset me a great deal and i request your valuable opinion > > female > dob-7/3/1968 > pob - new delhi > tob 1154pm( 2354) > > this was matched against the horoscope of siva > male > dob 27/06/1969 > pob calcutta > tob1150pm (2350) > > it was going to be second marriage for both of us and we were looking > forward to it.Now due to the opinion of an astrologer everything is > collapsing > > please guide us > > thanking you in advance > sincerely > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 *kleem namah narasimhaaya* Dear Prashant, Namaskar Nadi is important, it can influence the life of children in future life. Here both belongs to madhya group which is not auspicious. Finally one should see Upapada and Prashna chart for final answer on this. I dont use this kendra for sambandha but surely this three malefic yoga in 10 from Moon and in fifth is quite dangerous - luckily its in meena rasi and in 9 from AL which adds good aspect. I would advise definitely Ganesha, Kamala (venus as 7L deb in D9) and Brhaspati worship for this lady. Regards, Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher www: http://rohinaa.com / email: rafal Prashant Kumar G B pisze: > > > > Dear rafel ji > > a good point on Kutas role, as u see many ppl have been asking this NO > NADI match in many groups but dont provide data like this so is sufel > to quote this for such members > SEEN QUITE A FEW IN PAST 3 YRS in goups > > now how do u c her work/livelihood path go > please see how her kendras and their adipathis influence the result I > gave some info in a reply toKrishna ji TOO > > prashant > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme <starsuponme%40wp.pl>> > > <%40> > Monday, September 15, 2008 6:48:28 PM > Re: please help 15/9 > > *kleem namah narasimhaaya* > Dear Arati , Namaskar > > Yes, graha maitra (from chandra) is lacking in girls chart due to > distance between Mo and Me (Me dont like Mo and they are not forming > tatkalika sambandha - so enemies). Moon of Girl is also in 12H from > boy's moon which is inauspicious. Lagna ganas are compatible. In Naga > Nadi both are in madhya which is bad - this is bad for need of space of > couple. Dina is good. There is also bad Lagnesh matching and girl is > ghatak for boy - so generally not so happy married life. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz / SJC Teacher > www: http://rohinaa. com / email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com > > vattem krishnan pisze: > > > > Dear Sir, > > Mrityu bhagas are very important at the time when the first marraige > > could not last long.In 2nd marraige it looks to be girl is interestd > > but not Astrologers supporting the view.Not ofcourse their intention. > > K.N.Rao views that in all cases including dasa of the boy is comapible > > with that of Girl( sani dasa) 2nd marraige has some significance even > > if one sets aside children.Here emotional attachement for one or other > > reason through planets is not visible.5th and 5th to fifth too are > > also not in tune with each other > > I have just seen plansts avsthas and then their progression in > > navamas(both of them together) and could finally feel that if they > > take some more time and understand each other well(hopefully by that > > time transit of jupiter to capricron) it is possible for them to go > > ahead for 2nd marraige. > > If you also see 10th hous eof the girl and boy,how both of them will > > be in future can be arrived at. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > <gbp_ kumar%40. com>> wrote: > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > <gbp_ kumar%40. com>> > > Re: please help 15/9 > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:54 AM > > > > Dear Krishna ji > > > > a good reply thanks for posting sri KNR's views too > > > > how do u see her kendras and its lords where they r, this is a strange > > chart > > > > do u apply Mrityu Bhagas? here I did and found Guru in Simha in a MB > > so its dasa did not give conjugal life, children, NOW SANI dasa is on > > and its dispositor is Guru again so same result possible apart from > > the 5th house being so awefully aflicted with 3 malefics > > rahu+kuja+sani and such a sani aspecting the 7th house > > > > please throw some light on this as well and any clues KNR's research > > has on such aflictions how do we see this > > > > wit the 5th lord Poorva punadipathi so placed in 6/8 to the house and > > its occupants all papis > > > > thanks > > > > orashant > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > > > > > Monday, September 15, 2008 5:09:36 PM > > Re: please help 12/9 > > > > Dear Prashant ji, > > In the Case of 2nd Marriage what becomes important is the > > Dasha.Saturn' s Dasha is most dsirable for divorcees and widowers. > > Placement of Saturn too matters and relationship with 7th house and > > 7th lord. > > Frankly: > > Matching of the horoscope in traditional way is not relevant > > Matching is ideal only in those cases where parents are concerned and > > adhere to traditional approach. > > where two persons agree to keep relationships and desire to get > > married.Astrologers have no role to play as it is " Gandharva Vivaham " > > Even KN Rao school of thought exhorts not for bindus and for > > matching.They emphaisi for sustenance of marriage. > > As far as having children I agree with you it is of least > > consideration. Even we have to agree to the present day arrangement f > > living together,ievn if it not institutionalised through sepcific > > approach. > > Importance of 8th for the girl can not be ignored as mangalay > > sthanam.Rest of the factors like mony and other things and out look of > > persons and cpmpatibility we need to look from navamsa and palcement > > of lagna lord in navamsa sign. > > These traditional approaches are yet vital to arrive at understanding > > of the native and the affliction of 7th house. > > In all 2nd marraiges it is affliction of the 7th lord and 7th house > > which become very important. > > Today only I read in Star Teller,that based on time and nirayana > > time,(depending on sun's position)7th house can be worked out > > statistically/ mathematically. It is is given in Star Teller Edition > > November2007. > > In this chart of the native timing for marraige in Sun's dasa/anatar > > is not advisable.Yet in the case of transit jupiter for girl has to be > > important. > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Fri, 9/12/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Re: please help 12/9 > > > > Cc: " Arati Arati " <aratiagain@ gmail. com> > > Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:29 AM > > > > Dear Krishna ji > > > > the kootas and or horoscope matching or just once we hit a road block > > on the kootas should we give up charts matching? that is I mean once > > we get past the half way mark on Kootas can we look at the mutual > > charts strenght and collective one to be partners or drop it once the > > 2 nadi and graha mitra are not there in spite of half way mark. some > > vernacular ones have given exceptions on some kootas > > > > what will u advice normally and more so in cases of 2 divorcees > > > > as a chart comparison can suggest if they have their own children > > still age catching up at least for the female-nature has set clock too > > close.. > > > > what has KN Rao ji said on matching ? I hope u can throw some light as > > well.as u've been close to him > > > > I have normally used the avg kootas and overlooked some of the doshas > > if this is noth the right way let me know, sould correct myself > > > > my focus in astrology has been health and finance, family, children > > are becoming irrelevant most instutuions r decaying beyond repair. but > > till it lasts we have to do our job in the traditional concerns as well. > > > > thanks > > > > prashant > > > > > > vattem krishnan <bursar_99 > > > > > Friday, September 12, 2008 8:44:33 AM > > Re: please help > > > > Arati ji, > > Prashna addresses specific aspects and longterm studies from natal > > chart in groups are difficult to be advised. > > group is interested in knowing astrological issues but not denying the > > opinions given by others based on astrological guideleines. > > > > .nadi dosha and and graha maitri are important issues for sustenance > > of marital relationships. > > Nadi kuta reflects on health of couple and more with reference to > > female chart and rasi kuta helps in understanding of ideals and to > > have smooth relationships. In the case of 2nd marrige these issues > > become more relevant. > > > > For example anuradha 3rd quarter of boy of saturn is mild and hesitant > > and apprehensive nature like a deer and migasira makes people always > > cautious,nocturnal and ready to strike back like a snake.particularly > > does not provide yoni kuta. > > like wise both are having same tatwa like pitta based on nakshtras.but > > better two have different nadis in astrology.It is suggested by > > Astrologers. > > > > Even this combinations leads to different rajjus mrigasira is siro > > rajju. BV Raman in his book of Matching Charts characterises badly > > about siro rajju. > > Boys weak moon with lagna lord mars retrograde and in navamsa > > aspecting venus in sagittarus a fiery sign is not really > > conducive.dasa lord venus in the sign of mars with saturn in kutumba > > sthan needs day to understanding and reconciliatory approaches > > > > vrkrishnan > > > > --- On Wed, 9/10/08, arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> wrote: > > > > arati3122 <aratiagain@ . co.in> > > please help > > > > Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 6:39 PM > > > > Respected gurujis > > I am in a troubled situation > > my horoscope was rejected for a match as it was said that i had the > > naadi dosha and no graha mithra > > this has upset me a great deal and i request your valuable opinion > > > > female > > dob-7/3/1968 > > pob - new delhi > > tob 1154pm( 2354) > > > > this was matched against the horoscope of siva > > male > > dob 27/06/1969 > > pob calcutta > > tob1150pm (2350) > > > > it was going to be second marriage for both of us and we were looking > > forward to it.Now due to the opinion of an astrologer everything is > > collapsing > > > > please guide us > > > > thanking you in advance > > sincerely > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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