Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Prashant Ji and Group, There are yogas known popularly to most people, though, The Jatak Tatwa contains thousands of the yogas. Howebver, at various other classics lot many yogas are given. The yoga i mentioned to have seen in Indira Ji's chart is given in Kalyan Verma's Sarawali : He says : Bhupatim Anupam Veeryam Nripati Gunauha MrigeJatam, BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati GuruVeekschhitah Chandraha !! Above shloka is an exception given to Karka lagna born natives as mentioned in the classic. I wanted you and other elders to look at how perfectly 365 day's based dasha results match with the events happened Indira Ji's life. A perfect example, A fitting example, I will post more cases, astonishing !! Assassination : Despite trying hard and applying lot's of methods Sri K.N Rao could not pin point the very reason why she got assasinated when Mars and 8'th house had no direct role in her chart, In fact, people have common tendency to explore only obvious, Though Sri K.N Rao is still doing research with same jeal that we are doing in our group, he didn't reach the exact cause. The cause is pretty simple, 11'th lord's placement in 6'th and 6'th lord's placement in 11th, Jatak Tatwa is very clear : 1. " Vari Pato (6'th lord) Labhgate Krure Maranam Vipakschhato Bhavati Taskar Krita Hanih " 2. " Labha Adhipe Sasthagate SuVairam.... Mritim SamaaApnoti cha ChaurHastat " . Above shows the possible cause of death in her chart, when a pattern of life came in " Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " As Parashara stated, kindly note the activism of rahu in 6'th in this context. Her security gauards killed her in a thievish manner as given in the classic, Every classic's author has done some specific research in on or another area of life, It needs to organize the proven content of the classics for the benefits of the Jyotish Students. regards, Lalit. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji and Groups, > > In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the > Smt Indira Gandhi's case. > > > > This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, those > who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some > time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see > with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool > to understand one's own life > > It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to > Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is > placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from > piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, > let's focus on our case study - > > Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find a > timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I found > all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha > sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th > )/Rahu, Parashara states : > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. > > Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the mahadasha > of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives > liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a life > with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and > this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in > lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was > Rahu/Saturn/Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. > > First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is > Jupiter/Venus/Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of > kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position > (grade) > > Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt > Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and > sub period of Venus. > > > Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are > working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in > Saturn/Saturn/Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and Jupitor > are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. > > I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N Rao > stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. > > In the groups also learn from my research... > > Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply > Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari > Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are > derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. > > Will continue ..... > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > /this is a edited version > edited by prashant removing possible provocative material > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Lalit I must draw ur attention to Dr B V RAMAMS ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF 1984 a special issue SATURN THE KING MAKER shows how price chalrs will never be king of England like wise the sudden, unatural, tragic end of Indira Gandhi writen by Gayatrhi devi vasudev which somes min 19 days before the month and is obviously prepared months before an d like wise a magazine caled SOCIETY issue dated Sept 30 B V RAMAN has in clear English given the same information, it is a fashion magazine but strange it had this part given so the subject has many sides , aspects and great men have great eyes to see it and show us the path, if we have respect, reverence to it the same energy will flow in us, remember Ekalavya's way of learning when he was denied coaching, his manasa guru-shishya samskara enabled him to compete or evenexcell Arjunas prowess so knowledge without wisdom, humility is like Enistien's regret in giving the world the Nuclear energy as a boon- becoming a great destroyer, he regreted it v much USE D CHARTS, ASPects, shadbalas, so many other aspects of the subject if there were magic wands to get answers from just 365 DAYS OR TARUN CHOPRAS own ayanamsa i hope u see them as wll h uses a mid ayanamsa to western and lahiri and claims on a dasa start day a event happens but misses many others, just one sparrow makes hissummer in a given day u can see good and bad events happen he vouches by once event on his theory and has like u ridiculed all past and present greats when I had analysed some of his cases live on chat with so many other events like the enviroment where the native, is work physical features, tasts and few more he cross checked with the other person live and found it ok called it INTUTUION and dismissed it, when i clearly said it ia pure astrology he cant imagine more than one event can happen in a day or many things can be read from a chart he then gave me 2 diff datas and startd teasing me the result was acording to him I had read abot the 2nd case not the first so it is intution not astrology and hus aynamsa is alone astrology well can u beat it astrology works for healing not prvoing a point bull's eye is possible but it is not the goal first is to heal a wounded soul, give it direction and hope our knowledge isa tool in that direction not a image boosting show there is a lot ot study for everyone of us as long as we live, day we say we have conqured it it is our death of individuality and what lives is just EGO Best wishes prashant litsol <litsol Monday, September 8, 2008 9:44:31 PM Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection ( Indira Ji's Assassination) Dear Prashant Ji and Group, There are yogas known popularly to most people, though, The Jatak Tatwa contains thousands of the yogas. Howebver, at various other classics lot many yogas are given. The yoga i mentioned to have seen in Indira Ji's chart is given in Kalyan Verma's Sarawali : He says : Bhupatim Anupam Veeryam Nripati Gunauha MrigeJatam, BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati GuruVeekschhitah Chandraha !! Above shloka is an exception given to Karka lagna born natives as mentioned in the classic. I wanted you and other elders to look at how perfectly 365 day's based dasha results match with the events happened Indira Ji's life. A perfect example, A fitting example, I will post more cases, astonishing !! Assassination : Despite trying hard and applying lot's of methods Sri K.N Rao could not pin point the very reason why she got assasinated when Mars and 8'th house had no direct role in her chart, In fact, people have common tendency to explore only obvious, Though Sri K.N Rao is still doing research with same jeal that we are doing in our group, he didn't reach the exact cause. The cause is pretty simple, 11'th lord's placement in 6'th and 6'th lord's placement in 11th, Jatak Tatwa is very clear : 1. " Vari Pato (6'th lord) Labhgate Krure Maranam Vipakschhato Bhavati Taskar Krita Hanih " 2. " Labha Adhipe Sasthagate SuVairam.... Mritim SamaaApnoti cha ChaurHastat " . Above shows the possible cause of death in her chart, when a pattern of life came in " Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " As Parashara stated, kindly note the activism of rahu in 6'th in this context. Her security gauards killed her in a thievish manner as given in the classic, Every classic's author has done some specific research in on or another area of life, It needs to organize the proven content of the classics for the benefits of the Jyotish Students. regards, Lalit. , " litsol " <litsol wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji and Groups, > > In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the > Smt Indira Gandhi's case. > > > > This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, those > who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some > time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see > with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool > to understand one's own life > > It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to > Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is > placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from > piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, > let's focus on our case study - > > Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find a > timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I found > all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha > sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th > )/Rahu, Parashara states : > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. > > Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the mahadasha > of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives > liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a life > with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and > this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in > lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was > Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. > > First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is > Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of > kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position > (grade) > > Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt > Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and > sub period of Venus. > > > Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are > working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in > Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and Jupitor > are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. > > I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N Rao > stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. > > In the groups also learn from my research... > > Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply > Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari > Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are > derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. > > Will continue ..... > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > /this is a edited version > edited by prashant removing possible provocative material > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Prashant Ji In Vedic Astrologyandhealing group, Sri Chandrashekhar Ji raised a query regarding " BahuDarPutra Mitram " in Indira Ji's chart, following is my reply to that query - Like any horoscope, Indira Ji's horoscope has got potential for several things as given by Kalyan Verma in his sarawali, but, as you both the elders have been stating that we should look at a chart in entirety to know what portion of yoga is getting cancelled by placement of other grahas, In indira Ji's chart, Sun's placement in 5'th house is cancelling the " BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati " . I have read in several classics that sun's placement in 5'th results in one son with world level name and fame, this is also proven in Indira Ji's chart. If u need, I will post the supporting shlokas, another factor is Mangal's aspect on 5'th, It's interesting to note that Mangal is aspecting the Sun and I can post the shloka also stating, Mangal's aspect on Sun causes a brutal death, so, in Indira Ji's chart there are 2 clear cases indicating the assassination, Can we understand as Mars-Sun aspect occuring in 2nd/5th axis, therefore, it led to similar brutal death of her sons as well ? In fact since when I studied some nadi reading, I got an insight to look deeper and wider, I feel we can reconstruct the missing Nadi literature, provided we all work togather. In order to prove and establish accuracy of 365 day's based Vimshottari Dasha, I will post more stunning cases. Thaks to god who enabled me to think in this angle. regards, Lalit Mishra. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Lalit > > I must draw ur attention to Dr B V RAMAMS ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE > > SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF 1984 a special issue > SATURN THE KING MAKER > > shows how price chalrs will never be king of England > like wise the sudden, unatural, tragic end of Indira Gandhi > > writen by Gayatrhi devi vasudev which somes min 19 days before the month and is obviously prepared months before > > an d like wise a magazine caled SOCIETY issue dated Sept 30 B V RAMAN has in clear English given the same information, it is a fashion magazine but strange it had this part given > > so the subject has many sides , aspects and great men have great eyes to see it and show us the path, if we have respect, reverence to it the same energy will flow in us, remember Ekalavya's way of learning when he was denied coaching, his manasa guru-shishya samskara enabled him to compete or evenexcell Arjunas prowess > > so knowledge without wisdom, humility is like Enistien's regret in giving the world the Nuclear energy as a boon- becoming a great destroyer, he regreted it v much > > USE D CHARTS, ASPects, shadbalas, so many other aspects of the subject if there were magic wands to get answers from just 365 DAYS OR TARUN CHOPRAS own ayanamsa i hope u see them as wll > h uses a mid ayanamsa to western and lahiri and claims on a dasa start day a event happens > but misses many others, just one sparrow makes hissummer > > in a given day u can see good and bad events happen he vouches by once event on his theory and has like u ridiculed all past and present greats > > when I had analysed some of his cases live on chat with so many other events like the enviroment where the native, is work physical features, tasts and few more he cross checked with the other person live and found it ok called it INTUTUION and dismissed it, when i clearly said it ia pure astrology he cant imagine more than one event can happen in a day or many things can be read from a chart > > he then gave me 2 diff datas and startd teasing me the result was acording to him I had read abot the 2nd case not the first so it is intution not astrology and hus aynamsa is alone astrology > > well can u beat it > > astrology works for healing not prvoing a point > > bull's eye is possible but it is not the goal first is to heal a wounded soul, give it direction and hope our knowledge isa tool in that direction not a image boosting show > > there is a lot ot study for everyone of us as long as we live, day we say we have conqured it it is our death of individuality and what lives is just EGO > > Best wishes > > prashant > > > > > litsol litsol > > Monday, September 8, 2008 9:44:31 PM > Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection ( Indira Ji's Assassination) > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and Group, > > There are yogas known popularly to most people, though, The Jatak Tatwa > contains thousands of the yogas. Howebver, at various other classics lot > many yogas are given. > > The yoga i mentioned to have seen in Indira Ji's chart is given in > Kalyan Verma's Sarawali : > > He says : Bhupatim Anupam Veeryam Nripati Gunauha MrigeJatam, > BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati GuruVeekschhitah > Chandraha !! > > Above shloka is an exception given to Karka lagna born natives as > mentioned in the classic. > > I wanted you and other elders to look at how perfectly 365 day's based > dasha results match with the events happened Indira Ji's life. A perfect > example, A fitting example, I will post more cases, astonishing !! > > Assassination : Despite trying hard and applying lot's of methods Sri > K.N Rao could not pin point the very reason why she got assasinated when > Mars and 8'th house had no direct role in her chart, In fact, people > have common tendency to explore only obvious, Though Sri K.N Rao is > still doing research with same jeal that we are doing in our group, he > didn't reach the exact cause. > > The cause is pretty simple, 11'th lord's placement in 6'th and 6'th > lord's placement in 11th, Jatak Tatwa is very clear : > > 1. " Vari Pato (6'th lord) Labhgate Krure Maranam Vipakschhato Bhavati > Taskar Krita Hanih " > > 2. " Labha Adhipe Sasthagate SuVairam.... Mritim SamaaApnoti cha > ChaurHastat " . > > Above shows the possible cause of death in her chart, when a pattern of > life came in " Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > As Parashara stated, kindly note the activism of rahu in 6'th in this > context. Her security gauards killed her in a thievish manner as given > in the classic, Every classic's author has done some specific research > in on or another area of life, It needs to organize the proven content > of the classics for the benefits of the Jyotish Students. > > regards, > Lalit. > > , " litsol " litsol@ wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji and Groups, > > > > In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the > > Smt Indira Gandhi's case. > > > > > > > > This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, > those > > who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some > > time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see > > with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool > > to understand one's own life > > > > It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to > > Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is > > placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from > > piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, > > let's focus on our case study - > > > > Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find > a > > timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I > found > > all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha > > sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th > > )/Rahu, Parashara states : > > > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > > > See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found > only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. > > > > Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the > mahadasha > > of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives > > liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a > life > > with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and > > this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in > > lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was > > Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. > > > > First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is > > Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of > > kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position > > (grade) > > > > Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt > > Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and > > sub period of Venus. > > > > > > Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are > > working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in > > Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and > Jupitor > > are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. > > > > I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N > Rao > > stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. > > > > In the groups also learn from my research... > > > > Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply > > Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari > > Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are > > derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. > > > > Will continue ..... > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > /this is a edited version > > edited by prashant removing possible provocative material > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 LALIT before u proceed further pl read the magazine's articles i had quoted, will help u on Indira gandhi's assassination prashant litsol <litsol Tuesday, September 9, 2008 8:18:14 PM Re: Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection ( Indira Ji's Assassination) Dear Prashant Ji In Vedic Astrologyandhe aling group, Sri Chandrashekhar Ji raised a query regarding " BahuDarPutra Mitram " in Indira Ji's chart, following is my reply to that query - Like any horoscope, Indira Ji's horoscope has got potential for several things as given by Kalyan Verma in his sarawali, but, as you both the elders have been stating that we should look at a chart in entirety to know what portion of yoga is getting cancelled by placement of other grahas, In indira Ji's chart, Sun's placement in 5'th house is cancelling the " BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati " . I have read in several classics that sun's placement in 5'th results in one son with world level name and fame, this is also proven in Indira Ji's chart. If u need, I will post the supporting shlokas, another factor is Mangal's aspect on 5'th, It's interesting to note that Mangal is aspecting the Sun and I can post the shloka also stating, Mangal's aspect on Sun causes a brutal death, so, in Indira Ji's chart there are 2 clear cases indicating the assassination, Can we understand as Mars-Sun aspect occuring in 2nd/5th axis, therefore, it led to similar brutal death of her sons as well ? In fact since when I studied some nadi reading, I got an insight to look deeper and wider, I feel we can reconstruct the missing Nadi literature, provided we all work togather. In order to prove and establish accuracy of 365 day's based Vimshottari Dasha, I will post more stunning cases. Thaks to god who enabled me to think in this angle. regards, Lalit Mishra. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Lalit > > I must draw ur attention to Dr B V RAMAMS ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE > > SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF 1984 a special issue > SATURN THE KING MAKER > > shows how price chalrs will never be king of England > like wise the sudden, unatural, tragic end of Indira Gandhi > > writen by Gayatrhi devi vasudev which somes min 19 days before the month and is obviously prepared months before > > an d like wise a magazine caled SOCIETY issue dated Sept 30 B V RAMAN has in clear English given the same information, it is a fashion magazine but strange it had this part given > > so the subject has many sides , aspects and great men have great eyes to see it and show us the path, if we have respect, reverence to it the same energy will flow in us, remember Ekalavya's way of learning when he was denied coaching, his manasa guru-shishya samskara enabled him to compete or evenexcell Arjunas prowess > > so knowledge without wisdom, humility is like Enistien's regret in giving the world the Nuclear energy as a boon- becoming a great destroyer, he regreted it v much > > USE D CHARTS, ASPects, shadbalas, so many other aspects of the subject if there were magic wands to get answers from just 365 DAYS OR TARUN CHOPRAS own ayanamsa i hope u see them as wll > h uses a mid ayanamsa to western and lahiri and claims on a dasa start day a event happens > but misses many others, just one sparrow makes hissummer > > in a given day u can see good and bad events happen he vouches by once event on his theory and has like u ridiculed all past and present greats > > when I had analysed some of his cases live on chat with so many other events like the enviroment where the native, is work physical features, tasts and few more he cross checked with the other person live and found it ok called it INTUTUION and dismissed it, when i clearly said it ia pure astrology he cant imagine more than one event can happen in a day or many things can be read from a chart > > he then gave me 2 diff datas and startd teasing me the result was acording to him I had read abot the 2nd case not the first so it is intution not astrology and hus aynamsa is alone astrology > > well can u beat it > > astrology works for healing not prvoing a point > > bull's eye is possible but it is not the goal first is to heal a wounded soul, give it direction and hope our knowledge isa tool in that direction not a image boosting show > > there is a lot ot study for everyone of us as long as we live, day we say we have conqured it it is our death of individuality and what lives is just EGO > > Best wishes > > prashant > > > > > litsol litsol > > Monday, September 8, 2008 9:44:31 PM > Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari' s Perfection ( Indira Ji's Assassination) > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and Group, > > There are yogas known popularly to most people, though, The Jatak Tatwa > contains thousands of the yogas. Howebver, at various other classics lot > many yogas are given. > > The yoga i mentioned to have seen in Indira Ji's chart is given in > Kalyan Verma's Sarawali : > > He says : Bhupatim Anupam Veeryam Nripati Gunauha MrigeJatam, > BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati GuruVeekschhitah > Chandraha !! > > Above shloka is an exception given to Karka lagna born natives as > mentioned in the classic. > > I wanted you and other elders to look at how perfectly 365 day's based > dasha results match with the events happened Indira Ji's life. A perfect > example, A fitting example, I will post more cases, astonishing !! > > Assassination : Despite trying hard and applying lot's of methods Sri > K.N Rao could not pin point the very reason why she got assasinated when > Mars and 8'th house had no direct role in her chart, In fact, people > have common tendency to explore only obvious, Though Sri K.N Rao is > still doing research with same jeal that we are doing in our group, he > didn't reach the exact cause. > > The cause is pretty simple, 11'th lord's placement in 6'th and 6'th > lord's placement in 11th, Jatak Tatwa is very clear : > > 1. " Vari Pato (6'th lord) Labhgate Krure Maranam Vipakschhato Bhavati > Taskar Krita Hanih " > > 2. " Labha Adhipe Sasthagate SuVairam.... Mritim SamaaApnoti cha > ChaurHastat " . > > Above shows the possible cause of death in her chart, when a pattern of > life came in " Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > As Parashara stated, kindly note the activism of rahu in 6'th in this > context. Her security gauards killed her in a thievish manner as given > in the classic, Every classic's author has done some specific research > in on or another area of life, It needs to organize the proven content > of the classics for the benefits of the Jyotish Students. > > regards, > Lalit. > > , " litsol " litsol@ wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji and Groups, > > > > In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the > > Smt Indira Gandhi's case. > > > > > > > > This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, > those > > who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some > > time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see > > with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool > > to understand one's own life > > > > It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to > > Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is > > placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from > > piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, > > let's focus on our case study - > > > > Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find > a > > timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I > found > > all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha > > sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th > > )/Rahu, Parashara states : > > > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > > > See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found > only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. > > > > Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the > mahadasha > > of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives > > liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a > life > > with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and > > this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in > > lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was > > Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. > > > > First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is > > Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of > > kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position > > (grade) > > > > Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt > > Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and > > sub period of Venus. > > > > > > Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are > > working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in > > Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and > Jupitor > > are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. > > > > I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N > Rao > > stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. > > > > In the groups also learn from my research... > > > > Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply > > Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari > > Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are > > derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. > > > > Will continue ..... > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > /this is a edited version > > edited by prashant removing possible provocative material > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Prashant Ji, Namaskaar, Unfortunately I dont have copy of this article, can u pls. provide this to me. regards, Lalit. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > > LALIT > > before u proceed further > > pl read the magazine's articles i had quoted, will help u on Indira gandhi's assassination > > prashant > > > litsol <litsol > > Tuesday, September 9, 2008 8:18:14 PM > Re: Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection ( Indira Ji's Assassination) > > > > Dear Prashant Ji > > In Vedic Astrologyandhe aling group, Sri Chandrashekhar Ji raised a query > regarding " BahuDarPutra Mitram " in Indira Ji's chart, following is my > reply to that query - > > Like any horoscope, Indira Ji's horoscope has got potential for several > things as given by Kalyan Verma in his sarawali, but, as you both the > elders have been stating that we should look at a chart in entirety to > know what portion of yoga is getting cancelled by placement of other > grahas, In indira Ji's chart, > > Sun's placement in 5'th house is cancelling the " BahuDarPutra Mitram > Janayati " . > > I have read in several classics that sun's placement in 5'th results in > one son with world level name and fame, this is also proven in Indira > Ji's chart. If u need, I will post the supporting shlokas, another > factor is Mangal's aspect on 5'th, It's interesting to note that Mangal > is aspecting the Sun and I can post the shloka also stating, Mangal's > aspect on Sun causes a brutal death, so, in Indira Ji's chart there are > 2 clear cases indicating the assassination, Can we understand as > Mars-Sun aspect occuring in 2nd/5th axis, therefore, it led to similar > brutal death of her sons as well ? > > In fact since when I studied some nadi reading, I got an insight to look > deeper and wider, I feel we can reconstruct the missing Nadi literature, > provided we all work togather. > > In order to prove and establish accuracy of 365 day's based Vimshottari > Dasha, I will post more stunning cases. Thaks to god who enabled me to > think in this angle. > > regards, > Lalit Mishra. > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Lalit > > > > I must draw ur attention to Dr B V RAMAMS ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE > > > > SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF 1984 a special issue > > SATURN THE KING MAKER > > > > shows how price chalrs will never be king of England > > like wise the sudden, unatural, tragic end of Indira Gandhi > > > > writen by Gayatrhi devi vasudev which somes min 19 days before the > month and is obviously prepared months before > > > > an d like wise a magazine caled SOCIETY issue dated Sept 30 B V RAMAN > has in clear English given the same information, it is a fashion > magazine but strange it had this part given > > > > so the subject has many sides , aspects and great men have great eyes > to see it and show us the path, if we have respect, reverence to it the > same energy will flow in us, remember Ekalavya's way of learning when he > was denied coaching, his manasa guru-shishya samskara enabled him to > compete or evenexcell Arjunas prowess > > > > so knowledge without wisdom, humility is like Enistien's regret in > giving the world the Nuclear energy as a boon- becoming a great > destroyer, he regreted it v much > > > > USE D CHARTS, ASPects, shadbalas, so many other aspects of the subject > if there were magic wands to get answers from just 365 DAYS OR TARUN > CHOPRAS own ayanamsa i hope u see them as wll > > h uses a mid ayanamsa to western and lahiri and claims on a dasa start > day a event happens > > but misses many others, just one sparrow makes hissummer > > > > in a given day u can see good and bad events happen he vouches by once > event on his theory and has like u ridiculed all past and present greats > > > > when I had analysed some of his cases live on chat with so many other > events like the enviroment where the native, is work physical features, > tasts and few more he cross checked with the other person live and found > it ok called it INTUTUION and dismissed it, when i clearly said it ia > pure astrology he cant imagine more than one event can happen in a day > or many things can be read from a chart > > > > he then gave me 2 diff datas and startd teasing me the result was > acording to him I had read abot the 2nd case not the first so it is > intution not astrology and hus aynamsa is alone astrology > > > > well can u beat it > > > > astrology works for healing not prvoing a point > > > > bull's eye is possible but it is not the goal first is to heal a > wounded soul, give it direction and hope our knowledge isa tool in that > direction not a image boosting show > > > > there is a lot ot study for everyone of us as long as we live, day we > say we have conqured it it is our death of individuality and what lives > is just EGO > > > > Best wishes > > > > prashant > > > > > > > > > > litsol litsol@ > > > > Monday, September 8, 2008 9:44:31 PM > > Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari' s Perfection ( Indira > Ji's Assassination) > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant Ji and Group, > > > > There are yogas known popularly to most people, though, The Jatak > Tatwa > > contains thousands of the yogas. Howebver, at various other classics > lot > > many yogas are given. > > > > The yoga i mentioned to have seen in Indira Ji's chart is given in > > Kalyan Verma's Sarawali : > > > > He says : Bhupatim Anupam Veeryam Nripati Gunauha MrigeJatam, > > BahuDarPutra Mitram Janayati GuruVeekschhitah > > Chandraha !! > > > > Above shloka is an exception given to Karka lagna born natives as > > mentioned in the classic. > > > > I wanted you and other elders to look at how perfectly 365 day's based > > dasha results match with the events happened Indira Ji's life. A > perfect > > example, A fitting example, I will post more cases, astonishing !! > > > > Assassination : Despite trying hard and applying lot's of methods Sri > > K.N Rao could not pin point the very reason why she got assasinated > when > > Mars and 8'th house had no direct role in her chart, In fact, people > > have common tendency to explore only obvious, Though Sri K.N Rao is > > still doing research with same jeal that we are doing in our group, he > > didn't reach the exact cause. > > > > The cause is pretty simple, 11'th lord's placement in 6'th and 6'th > > lord's placement in 11th, Jatak Tatwa is very clear : > > > > 1. " Vari Pato (6'th lord) Labhgate Krure Maranam Vipakschhato Bhavati > > Taskar Krita Hanih " > > > > 2. " Labha Adhipe Sasthagate SuVairam.... Mritim SamaaApnoti cha > > ChaurHastat " . > > > > Above shows the possible cause of death in her chart, when a pattern > of > > life came in " Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, > > > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > > > As Parashara stated, kindly note the activism of rahu in 6'th in this > > context. Her security gauards killed her in a thievish manner as given > > in the classic, Every classic's author has done some specific research > > in on or another area of life, It needs to organize the proven content > > of the classics for the benefits of the Jyotish Students. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > , " litsol " litsol@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant ji and Groups, > > > > > > In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check > the > > > Smt Indira Gandhi's case. > > > > > > > > > > > > This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, > > those > > > who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent > some > > > time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see > > > with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a > tool > > > to understand one's own life > > > > > > It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given > to > > > Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is > > > placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from > > > piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, > > > let's focus on our case study - > > > > > > Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to > find > > a > > > timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I > > found > > > all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha > > > sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th > > > )/Rahu, Parashara states : > > > > > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like > assault > > > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > > > > > See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found > > only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. > > > > > > Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the > > mahadasha > > > of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house > gives > > > liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a > > life > > > with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and > > > this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, > in > > > lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was > > > Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. > > > > > > First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence > is > > > Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition > of > > > kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and > position > > > (grade) > > > > > > Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt > > > Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and > > > sub period of Venus. > > > > > > > > > Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are > > > working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in > > > Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and > > Jupitor > > > are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each > other. > > > > > > I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N > > Rao > > > stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. > > > > > > In the groups also learn from my research... > > > > > > Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply > > > Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based > Vimshottari > > > Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results > are > > > derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. > > > > > > Will continue ..... > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > /this is a edited version > > > edited by prashant removing possible provocative material > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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