Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Lalit it is too early to say what one has found to be the only way to see things our rishis have laid out several works and each has a clue in using them all source is BPHS but its decedents are a lot strong as well in giving clarity to the main one and each work has clues that were masked cleverly to be applied as the context may arouse. and when analysing charts of deadperson s we learn a lot for sure but it is too simplistic to say SRI KN RAO ji or PVN ji have done little worthy to stay where they r every event we analyse have severalfactors why do we have 60 vargas, then deities, avasthas, shadbalas in shadbals its constiuents itself are mind bogling say the dark hal, bright half of the Moon, the norther and souuther solistices, the planets that r strong in one of them again w.r.t the phase of the moon ashtakavarga is a v useful tool in reading Gochara more closely it is like adding a zoom lens to a good camara none of the tools they have lad r unwanted or dispensed the fact that we can still deliver with a few limbs of learning not being used is a strenght of the subject, the more we use them the better they r WELL KN RAO had writtena book on raman the man and his mission how he had forecasted years before many events see it and u will know how LITTLE WE ALL KNOW some of the modern astrologers like RAMAN,KN RAO, PS SHASTRY, R K BHATT, V Subramanya shastry. B Suryanarayana rao etc [age not in order] have even studied the Vedas Jyotishya is just a Vedanga we r all toosmall to coment on big issues we r lucky from what little we have aquired we r able to interpret and helppeople in need a lot of spiritual blessings are also needed for this humility, soft spokneness, ahimsa, para ninda etc r not a virtue can diminish all we gain remember what Vishwamitra lost so many times before he finally came to his senses and became a Braha rishi forget what people say of u do what u have to very objectively see the edited vesion of ur readongs aren't they pleasenter to read? u can dwarf people by better use of wisdom, judgement and also remember intution adds to our knowledge only intution is not jyotishya it can be a diferent sphere and not part of Jyotishya as it has no verifiable rules sow and reap affection here no offense meant Best wishes prashant litsol <litsol Sunday, September 7, 2008 5:17:33 PM Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection Dear Prashant ji and Groups, In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the Smt Indira Gandhi's case. This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, those who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool to understand one's own life It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, let's focus on our case study - Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find a timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I found all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, Parashara states : " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the mahadasha of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a life with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position (grade) Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and sub period of Venus. Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and Jupitor are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N Rao stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. In the groups also learn from my research... Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. Will continue ..... regards, Lalit. /this is a edited version edited by prashant removing possible provocative material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Dear Prashant ji, A Well and meaningful guidelines.Our present level of understanding of Astrology is in no way comparable to the kind of energies being devoted by Shri K.N.Rao and his group.They have time round the clock to pick up various issues useful for furthering Astrological perspectives and bring out by publicisng and debating in various places and in grioups ..At this stage of life,his involvement is surprising and his mission is unparallel.If we can't assimilate let's not make such comments which are never in the interst of development of subject. Rightly you cited about Viswamitra ji and ultimately how he attained the status of BRAHMARISHI by shedding his ahankar and krodh.Infact knowledge is symbolic of humility and be broad to understand problems of the people and find ways and means how the society can be supported in day today life. This platform meant for sharing our views and understanding the jyotish can never be humiliated by prejudicial views and personal commnets or highlighting own complexities. Glad that the job assigned and taken up is being done without any fear and favour.May Almighty support your efforts and the Group to get the benifit of your endeavours. vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Re: Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection 7/9 Sunday, September 7, 2008, 10:12 AM Lalit it is too early to say what one has found to be the only way to see things our rishis have laid out several works and each has a clue in using them all source is BPHS but its decedents are a lot strong as well in giving clarity to the main one and each work has clues that were masked cleverly to be applied as the context may arouse. and when analysing charts of deadperson s we learn a lot for sure but it is too simplistic to say SRI KN RAO ji or PVN ji have done little worthy to stay where they r every event we analyse have severalfactors why do we have 60 vargas, then deities, avasthas, shadbalas in shadbals its constiuents itself are mind bogling say the dark hal, bright half of the Moon, the norther and souuther solistices, the planets that r strong in one of them again w.r.t the phase of the moon ashtakavarga is a v useful tool in reading Gochara more closely it is like adding a zoom lens to a good camara none of the tools they have lad r unwanted or dispensed the fact that we can still deliver with a few limbs of learning not being used is a strenght of the subject, the more we use them the better they r WELL KN RAO had writtena book on raman the man and his mission how he had forecasted years before many events see it and u will know how LITTLE WE ALL KNOW some of the modern astrologers like RAMAN,KN RAO, PS SHASTRY, R K BHATT, V Subramanya shastry. B Suryanarayana rao etc [age not in order] have even studied the Vedas Jyotishya is just a Vedanga we r all toosmall to coment on big issues we r lucky from what little we have aquired we r able to interpret and helppeople in need a lot of spiritual blessings are also needed for this humility, soft spokneness, ahimsa, para ninda etc r not a virtue can diminish all we gain remember what Vishwamitra lost so many times before he finally came to his senses and became a Braha rishi forget what people say of u do what u have to very objectively see the edited vesion of ur readongs aren't they pleasenter to read? u can dwarf people by better use of wisdom, judgement and also remember intution adds to our knowledge only intution is not jyotishya it can be a diferent sphere and not part of Jyotishya as it has no verifiable rules sow and reap affection here no offense meant Best wishes prashant litsol <litsol (AT) grouply (DOT) com> Sunday, September 7, 2008 5:17:33 PM Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari' s Perfection Dear Prashant ji and Groups, In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the Smt Indira Gandhi's case. This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, those who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool to understand one's own life It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, let's focus on our case study - Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find a timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I found all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, Parashara states : " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the mahadasha of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a life with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position (grade) Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and sub period of Venus. Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and Jupitor are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N Rao stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. In the groups also learn from my research... Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. Will continue ..... regards, Lalit. /this is a edited version edited by prashant removing possible provocative material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Dear Krishna ji thanks for the encouraging words most people feel i am biased or lenient to Lalit, which I have pointed out several times is merit based at the moment, I carry no baggage of the past of his involvement in other groups if it is good or bad either at least in this group for period of time he was reasonable. but at no stage can anyone of us claim we have reached our destination in any knowledge based field surely this is way ahead of many such fields and Vishmitra as I quoted is the best example of it the other side is Valmiki for a crude,cruel person became a saint by a spark of the moment as PVN rao ji had given a v good reading of Lalit that by 2016 he will be a hightly spiritually evolved person -provided he curbs his Maritian tendencies, with due respect to it one being from a highly knowledgable person 2nd there r 2 riders one another 8 yrs to go plus curbing maritian influences and of course the dhyana that he is in must be extended and persistantly which comes only with more tolerance of the most untolerable things as well even if he is abused by lesser mortals he must brush it aside as acts of natural clensing and move on I wishe he lives up to the reading of PVNji seriously many had questioned and blaseted PVNji for it whith reading its crux that i am highlitng on every occassion possible. I wish im and the members here in the pursuit of Jyotishya all their best, everyone can add value to one another by sharing in a mutual give and take with humility and respect we r all human and make erros in time we will all make amends to it and polish off the bad karmas we keep acquiring. best wishes vattem krishnan <bursar_99 Sunday, September 7, 2008 9:02:10 PM Re: Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection 7/9 Dear Prashant ji, A Well and meaningful guidelines.Our present level of understanding of Astrology is in no way comparable to the kind of energies being devoted by Shri K.N.Rao and his group.They have time round the clock to pick up various issues useful for furthering Astrological perspectives and bring out by publicisng and debating in various places and in grioups ..At this stage of life,his involvement is surprising and his mission is unparallel.If we can't assimilate let's not make such comments which are never in the interst of development of subject. Rightly you cited about Viswamitra ji and ultimately how he attained the status of BRAHMARISHI by shedding his ahankar and krodh.Infact knowledge is symbolic of humility and be broad to understand problems of the people and find ways and means how the society can be supported in day today life. This platform meant for sharing our views and understanding the jyotish can never be humiliated by prejudicial views and personal commnets or highlighting own complexities. Glad that the job assigned and taken up is being done without any fear and favour.May Almighty support your efforts and the Group to get the benifit of your endeavours. vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Re: Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari' s Perfection 7/9 Sunday, September 7, 2008, 10:12 AM Lalit it is too early to say what one has found to be the only way to see things our rishis have laid out several works and each has a clue in using them all source is BPHS but its decedents are a lot strong as well in giving clarity to the main one and each work has clues that were masked cleverly to be applied as the context may arouse. and when analysing charts of deadperson s we learn a lot for sure but it is too simplistic to say SRI KN RAO ji or PVN ji have done little worthy to stay where they r every event we analyse have severalfactors why do we have 60 vargas, then deities, avasthas, shadbalas in shadbals its constiuents itself are mind bogling say the dark hal, bright half of the Moon, the norther and souuther solistices, the planets that r strong in one of them again w.r.t the phase of the moon ashtakavarga is a v useful tool in reading Gochara more closely it is like adding a zoom lens to a good camara none of the tools they have lad r unwanted or dispensed the fact that we can still deliver with a few limbs of learning not being used is a strenght of the subject, the more we use them the better they r WELL KN RAO had writtena book on raman the man and his mission how he had forecasted years before many events see it and u will know how LITTLE WE ALL KNOW some of the modern astrologers like RAMAN,KN RAO, PS SHASTRY, R K BHATT, V Subramanya shastry. B Suryanarayana rao etc [age not in order] have even studied the Vedas Jyotishya is just a Vedanga we r all toosmall to coment on big issues we r lucky from what little we have aquired we r able to interpret and helppeople in need a lot of spiritual blessings are also needed for this humility, soft spokneness, ahimsa, para ninda etc r not a virtue can diminish all we gain remember what Vishwamitra lost so many times before he finally came to his senses and became a Braha rishi forget what people say of u do what u have to very objectively see the edited vesion of ur readongs aren't they pleasenter to read? u can dwarf people by better use of wisdom, judgement and also remember intution adds to our knowledge only intution is not jyotishya it can be a diferent sphere and not part of Jyotishya as it has no verifiable rules sow and reap affection here no offense meant Best wishes prashant litsol <litsol (AT) grouply (DOT) com> Sunday, September 7, 2008 5:17:33 PM Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari' s Perfection Dear Prashant ji and Groups, In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the Smt Indira Gandhi's case. This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, those who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool to understand one's own life It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, let's focus on our case study - Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find a timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I found all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th )/Rahu, Parashara states : " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the mahadasha of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a life with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position (grade) Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and sub period of Venus. Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and Jupitor are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N Rao stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. In the groups also learn from my research... Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. Will continue ..... regards, Lalit. /this is a edited version edited by prashant removing possible provocative material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Prashant Ji, Thanx a lot, In fact i dont begin any despute but when others come with their malicious interest, i think, a proper reply is what they deserve. I have read these author's work mentioned by you - " some of the modern astrologers like RAMAN,KN RAO, PS SHASTRY, R K BHATT, V Subramanya shastry. B Suryanarayana rao etc " I respect sri K.N Rao also but the best way to do respect or to follow somebody is to continue the work started by him, therefore, I thought to continue the research which is started by Sri Rao. I have not studied cases applying finer D charts, therefore, I m not posting anything on their application, I only post on which i m very confirm and have seen happening in one's real life. regards, Lalit. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Lalit > > it is too early to say what one has found to be the only way to see things > > our rishis have laid out several works and each has a clue in using them all source is BPHS but its decedents are a lot strong as well in giving clarity to the main one and each work has clues that were masked cleverly to be applied as the context may arouse. > > and when analysing charts of deadperson s we learn a lot for sure but it is too simplistic to say SRI KN RAO ji or PVN ji have done little worthy to stay where they r > > every event we analyse have severalfactors > > why do we have 60 vargas, then deities, avasthas, shadbalas > in shadbals its constiuents itself are mind bogling > > say the dark hal, bright half of the Moon, the norther and souuther solistices, the planets that r strong in one of them again w.r.t the phase of the moon > > ashtakavarga is a v useful tool in reading Gochara more closely it is like adding a zoom lens to a good camara > > none of the tools they have lad r unwanted or dispensed the fact that we can still deliver with a few limbs of learning not being used is a strenght of the subject, the more we use them the better they r > > WELL KN RAO had writtena book on raman the man and his mission how he had forecasted years before many events see it and u will know how LITTLE WE ALL KNOW > > some of the modern astrologers like RAMAN,KN RAO, PS SHASTRY, R K BHATT, V Subramanya shastry. B Suryanarayana rao etc [age not in order] > > have even studied the Vedas Jyotishya is just a Vedanga we r all toosmall to coment on big issues we r lucky from what little we have aquired we r able to interpret and helppeople in need > > a lot of spiritual blessings are also needed for this humility, soft spokneness, ahimsa, para ninda etc r not a virtue can diminish all we gain > > remember what Vishwamitra lost so many times before he finally came to his senses and became a Braha rishi > > forget what people say of u do what u have to very objectively > > see the edited vesion of ur readongs aren't they pleasenter to read? > > u can dwarf people by better use of wisdom, judgement > > and also remember intution adds to our knowledge only intution is not jyotishya it can be a diferent sphere and not part of Jyotishya as it has no verifiable rules > > sow and reap affection here > > no offense meant > > Best wishes > > prashant > > > > > litsol <litsol > > Sunday, September 7, 2008 5:17:33 PM > Case 1 : 365 Day's Vimshottari's Perfection > > > Dear Prashant ji and Groups, > > In order to prove the perfection of Vmishottari Dasha, Pls. check the > Smt Indira Gandhi's case. > > This has been a critical chart for most astro stalwarts, however, those > who read classics, it was just another chart to analyse, I spent some > time on this chart to show how deep we can go and how far we can see > with the help of astrology in reading one's life, Astrology is a tool > to understand one's own life > > It's easy to find a powerful Mahaaraj Yoga, it's an exception given to > Moon placed in Capricorn aspected by Jupitor from Taurus, which is > placed in house of gains 11'th, I have seen people are running from > piller to post to find explanations by exchange etc, > let's focus on our case study - > > Indira Ji's Death : Sri K.N Rao has tried 4 different methods to find a > timing and astrological cause for her assasination, In his book, I found > all the times he is missing the key, Just have a look at the dasha > sequence : She was running Saturn (7'th lord)/Rahu (placed in 6'th > )/Rahu, Parashara states : > > " Confinement, various diseases, different kind of attacks like assault > by weapons (on body) and fear from friends " > > See, how close our sage is in his judgments, Above result is found only applying 365 day's based dasha sequence. > > Indira j's Marriage : See the 365 day's dasha sequence, in the mahadasha > of Rahu who is conjunct Venus placed in 6'th, I have 6'th house gives > liking for others, Rahu has done it's work and she liked to lead a life > with Feroz Gandhi, Saturn the 7'th lord's AntarDasha was running and > this 7'th lord is placed in Lagna, The famous, Saturn - Moon axis, in > lagna and in 7'th ensures the widowhood, the dasha sequence was > Rahu/Saturn/ Saturn, The marriage happened in March 1942. > > First ministry after Father's death : June 1964, The dasha sequence is > Jupiter/Venus/ Jupiter, Parashara says - Opulent wealth, acquisition of > kingdom, clothes, pearls etc., jewelery, elephant, horse and position > (grade) > > Do u notice, the functioning of Maharaja Yoga, how Ju forms in Smt > Indira's horoscope, confers her Ministership in it's Period and > sub period of Venus. > > Prime Ministershp : See again how component's of Maharaj Yoga's are > working, She became Indian Prime Minister in 1972 in > Saturn/Saturn/ Venus/Jupitor period. You can also learn Venus and Jupitor > are not mutual enemy, rather they act as complementary to each other. > > I have found Guru/Sukra's functioning quite opposit to what Sri K.N Rao > stated in his book - Nehru Dynasty. > > In the groups also learn from my research... > > Now, Prashant Ji, you can understand why i dont need to apply > Ashtakvarga coz I have seen excellance of 365 day's based Vimshottari > Dasha, if it's applied with Transits, it's superb, All the results are > derived applying Lahiri Ayanamsha. > > Will continue ..... > > regards, > Lalit. > > /this is a edited version > edited by prashant removing possible provocative material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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