Everything on the name of Astrology: 23/8

[Guest guest]

Sunil

 

a good topic and has to be addressed by serious students, followers and

practioners of the subject

 

this trend is more for entertainment and the rider must be given that what is

personally important must be sought from a professional or a serious person

this trend has no exception isn't law, beauty, yoga, medicine , cooking also

reduced to such tamasha some r good most of them r just media hoggers

 

in most cases people can make out the good from the bad so we need not worry

abput it

 

OUR JOB is to highlight the better side of astrology as we r domg om sich forums

people must know the depth, potential to address many serius issue apart fromthe

role astrologers play in giving pep talk, morale boosting advices which can

change a distressed, dissappointed mind to a successful one whatver be the final

outcome we lift them from the bottom to a floating level, when they breath fresh

air, instead of drowing this life will open new doors for them

 

 

responsiblities is both the astrologer community and the public at large quality

wil always win

 

Best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

 

Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:39:44 PM

Everything on the name of Astrology:

 

 

 

 

From past few years, the science of Astrology has undergone a tremendous

change, and it has also gained some reputation as well. Thanks to the

new crop of news channels with a fancy crowd of tarot readers, coffee

readers, self imposed psychics and unknown astrology experts. While

these flamboyant people can be a serious source of amusement for a

learned, they are treated as serious researchers by that layman out

there. This is the part, which can really torment a sensitive brain. I

mean, a mere look at those tarot readers can tell you that they are not

even aware of basics of astrology and yet they are playing with

everybody's emotions. And they are not the only people involved; media

has also got a piece in the cake.

 

If you are serious astrologer, you would really get baffled by the sway

of commercialization in the purest spirit called astrology. I mean just

look around you, a cell phone with a mantra ringtone, a newspaper with

twelve predictions, spread for more than 100 Million population, a Short

message service (SMS) alert for Future, a TV astrologer selling mantras

as vegetables. It seems realization has gone very cheap. As cheap as a

thirty bucks cassette with some lone singer's mantra engraved on the

magnetic tape with all that incorrect pronunciation of Sanskrit

syllables. Predictions are cheap as some pocket size booklet which you

can purchase on any book outlet. Nobody even dares to talk about truth.

Nobody is a culprit but except us, the common men. We have turned away

the truth that something which is exceptional like a prediction cannot

be so easy. We have turned away from the truth that molding the laws of

nature cannot be as damn easy as a, thug's reading from that left over

coffee in our cup. All this is happening because we wanted it that way.

Think of those desperate parents who want to do anything to get their

daughter married who is losing her age, think of that young lad who is

not getting a permanent job, after so many distressed attempts in

numerous companies. Our business, our laziness, our easy go disposition,

has harvested and watered the so called crop of thugs.

 

Everybody is running after the crispy paper from the mint house, no

matter what one has to do, one just do it without looking for

consequences. Sometimes I feel that the laws should be stricter in our

country. So strict, that thugs can't run their shops. Astrologers should

be charged thirty times of their fees, if the predictions go wrong.

Tantrics should be charged fifty times of their fees, if results

proclaimed do not materialize. But frankly, it will never happen. After

all this is the system. Everybody is a part of this system. A newest

example is those (So called) saints, who were exposed in a sting

operation. They were charging commissions for turning the black money to

legitimate money. None of those culprits were caught. They are still

out, still spreading their pravanchans (preaching) on those money hungry

channels.

 

This is the dilemma, the same population which considered them culprits

after the sting, now consider them saints. Our memories have weakened,

may be because it is outside our family. It does not matter to us,

because none of us got involved directly in it. So, no need to stop

them. But one day, this virus will definitely enter our lives and then

it will be too late. Turn me off, but on that day, there will be no

panacea.

 

Alok Jagawat

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

 

dear Prashanth ji

 

I find this trend in only net astrology recently who ever coming to

get predictions becoming astrologers in no matter of time ,and some

turns spiritualists (fake ) and claiming having done dasa mahavidyas and

fooling public and very senior most persons are sitting without raising

a concern .

 

 

 

some very educated persons requesting this persons to giv ashirvad .even

they r ready to shower their share of ingratitude and bad words who ever

spent on their charts but not this fake ppl and after so many trials

still matter is not solved and still showing their follery in this

matters .

 

 

 

some running own grps and trying their self building drama and making

of a gurudom in futre at the cost of 50 yr exprnced astrologers who has

no courage to talk against these things .

 

 

 

if some one talks against it treated as personal abuse .

 

so pls advice us how we can strt to expose such guys .And try to re

establish the glory of astrology ?

 

i posted that letter because i can save my typing time as i agree with

majority of the points expressed by that person ,so i dont even

undersign it and used his name itself .

 

 

 

This trends can stop when we seriously consider to put a full stop for

this kind of gimmics .

 

generaly public thinks free astrology is best and every thing in the

name of free is good .They dont know that the right dicision at right

time can save millions than paying some thing for astrologers than

listening to this fake ppl .

 

let ppl get what they seek .

 

 

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Sunil

>

> a good topic and has to be addressed by serious students, followers

and practioners of the subject

>

> this trend is more for entertainment and the rider must be given that

what is personally important must be sought from a professional or a

serious person

> this trend has no exception isn't law, beauty, yoga, medicine ,

cooking also reduced to such tamasha some r good most of them r just

media hoggers

>

> in most cases people can make out the good from the bad so we need not

worry abput it

>

> OUR JOB is to highlight the better side of astrology as we r domg om

sich forums people must know the depth, potential to address many serius

issue apart fromthe role astrologers play in giving pep talk, morale

boosting advices which can change a distressed, dissappointed mind to a

successful one whatver be the final outcome we lift them from the bottom

to a floating level, when they breath fresh air, instead of drowing this

life will open new doors for them

>

>

> responsiblities is both the astrologer community and the public at

large quality wil always win

>

> Best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala

>

> Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:39:44 PM

> Everything on the name of Astrology:

>

>

>

>

> From past few years, the science of Astrology has undergone a

tremendous

> change, and it has also gained some reputation as well. Thanks to the

> new crop of news channels with a fancy crowd of tarot readers, coffee

> readers, self imposed psychics and unknown astrology experts. While

> these flamboyant people can be a serious source of amusement for a

> learned, they are treated as serious researchers by that layman out

> there. This is the part, which can really torment a sensitive brain. I

> mean, a mere look at those tarot readers can tell you that they are

not

> even aware of basics of astrology and yet they are playing with

> everybody's emotions. And they are not the only people involved; media

> has also got a piece in the cake.

>

> If you are serious astrologer, you would really get baffled by the

sway

> of commercialization in the purest spirit called astrology. I mean

just

> look around you, a cell phone with a mantra ringtone, a newspaper with

> twelve predictions, spread for more than 100 Million population, a

Short

> message service (SMS) alert for Future, a TV astrologer selling

mantras

> as vegetables. It seems realization has gone very cheap. As cheap as a

> thirty bucks cassette with some lone singer's mantra engraved on the

> magnetic tape with all that incorrect pronunciation of Sanskrit

> syllables. Predictions are cheap as some pocket size booklet which you

> can purchase on any book outlet. Nobody even dares to talk about

truth.

> Nobody is a culprit but except us, the common men. We have turned away

> the truth that something which is exceptional like a prediction cannot

> be so easy. We have turned away from the truth that molding the laws

of

> nature cannot be as damn easy as a, thug's reading from that left over

> coffee in our cup. All this is happening because we wanted it that

way.

> Think of those desperate parents who want to do anything to get their

> daughter married who is losing her age, think of that young lad who is

> not getting a permanent job, after so many distressed attempts in

> numerous companies. Our business, our laziness, our easy go

disposition,

> has harvested and watered the so called crop of thugs.

>

> Everybody is running after the crispy paper from the mint house, no

> matter what one has to do, one just do it without looking for

> consequences. Sometimes I feel that the laws should be stricter in our

> country. So strict, that thugs can't run their shops. Astrologers

should

> be charged thirty times of their fees, if the predictions go wrong.

> Tantrics should be charged fifty times of their fees, if results

> proclaimed do not materialize. But frankly, it will never happen.

After

> all this is the system. Everybody is a part of this system. A newest

> example is those (So called) saints, who were exposed in a sting

> operation. They were charging commissions for turning the black money

to

> legitimate money. None of those culprits were caught. They are still

> out, still spreading their pravanchans (preaching) on those money

hungry

> channels.

>

> This is the dilemma, the same population which considered them

culprits

> after the sting, now consider them saints. Our memories have weakened,

> may be because it is outside our family. It does not matter to us,

> because none of us got involved directly in it. So, no need to stop

> them. But one day, this virus will definitely enter our lives and then

> it will be too late. Turn me off, but on that day, there will be no

> panacea.

>

> Alok Jagawat

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Parshant ji and Sunil ji Sirs,

Responsibilities of Astrologers community have been well said and what ever may

be the kind of selfish interests in personal matters and the made easy media

tickling the esoteric issues have become order of the day.Little choice except

to succumb to the social pressures and finding difficulties in adjusting to the

changing values of the greattest tribe of this universe.Added to this order is

increased religious fervour that sounds regimentation narrowing scope for

freewill which otherwise strongly jyotish vidya promotes and advocates.

Are we becoming more and more mute spectators for the present trends and the

onslaught of electronic media on the people

vrkishnan

 

--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Everything on the name of Astrology: 23/8

 

Saturday, August 23, 2008, 2:28 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunil

 

a good topic and has to be addressed by serious students, followers and

practioners of the subject

 

this trend is more for entertainment and the rider must be given that what is

personally important must be sought from a professional or a serious person

this trend has no exception isn't law, beauty, yoga, medicine , cooking also

reduced to such tamasha some r good most of them r just media hoggers

 

in most cases people can make out the good from the bad so we need not worry

abput it

 

OUR JOB is to highlight the better side of astrology as we r domg om sich forums

people must know the depth, potential to address many serius issue apart fromthe

role astrologers play in giving pep talk, morale boosting advices which can

change a distressed, dissappointed mind to a successful one whatver be the final

outcome we lift them from the bottom to a floating level, when they breath fresh

air, instead of drowing this life will open new doors for them

 

responsiblities is both the astrologer community and the public at large quality

wil always win

 

Best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in>

 

Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:39:44 PM

Everything on the name of Astrology:

 

From past few years, the science of Astrology has undergone a tremendous

change, and it has also gained some reputation as well. Thanks to the

new crop of news channels with a fancy crowd of tarot readers, coffee

readers, self imposed psychics and unknown astrology experts. While

these flamboyant people can be a serious source of amusement for a

learned, they are treated as serious researchers by that layman out

there. This is the part, which can really torment a sensitive brain. I

mean, a mere look at those tarot readers can tell you that they are not

even aware of basics of astrology and yet they are playing with

everybody's emotions. And they are not the only people involved; media

has also got a piece in the cake.

 

If you are serious astrologer, you would really get baffled by the sway

of commercialization in the purest spirit called astrology. I mean just

look around you, a cell phone with a mantra ringtone, a newspaper with

twelve predictions, spread for more than 100 Million population, a Short

message service (SMS) alert for Future, a TV astrologer selling mantras

as vegetables. It seems realization has gone very cheap. As cheap as a

thirty bucks cassette with some lone singer's mantra engraved on the

magnetic tape with all that incorrect pronunciation of Sanskrit

syllables. Predictions are cheap as some pocket size booklet which you

can purchase on any book outlet. Nobody even dares to talk about truth.

Nobody is a culprit but except us, the common men. We have turned away

the truth that something which is exceptional like a prediction cannot

be so easy. We have turned away from the truth that molding the laws of

nature cannot be as damn easy as a, thug's reading from that left over

coffee in our cup. All this is happening because we wanted it that way.

Think of those desperate parents who want to do anything to get their

daughter married who is losing her age, think of that young lad who is

not getting a permanent job, after so many distressed attempts in

numerous companies. Our business, our laziness, our easy go disposition,

has harvested and watered the so called crop of thugs.

 

Everybody is running after the crispy paper from the mint house, no

matter what one has to do, one just do it without looking for

consequences. Sometimes I feel that the laws should be stricter in our

country. So strict, that thugs can't run their shops. Astrologers should

be charged thirty times of their fees, if the predictions go wrong.

Tantrics should be charged fifty times of their fees, if results

proclaimed do not materialize. But frankly, it will never happen. After

all this is the system. Everybody is a part of this system. A newest

example is those (So called) saints, who were exposed in a sting

operation. They were charging commissions for turning the black money to

legitimate money. None of those culprits were caught. They are still

out, still spreading their pravanchans (preaching) on those money hungry

channels.

 

This is the dilemma, the same population which considered them culprits

after the sting, now consider them saints. Our memories have weakened,

may be because it is outside our family. It does not matter to us,

because none of us got involved directly in it. So, no need to stop

them. But one day, this virus will definitely enter our lives and then

it will be too late. Turn me off, but on that day, there will be no

panacea.

 

Alok Jagawat

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sunil

 

well Every one has a streak of good and bad depending on their karma and the

karma of the ppl who get entangled with some good or bad karmic situations it

works

 

just like we face a good hospital but a bad or inexperienced doc, or

inexperienced lab technician giving a report that can be a source of a mistakem

a sinple problem cud be made worse, we also see them making wrong organ

surgeries [rifht from left or vicersa]

orleaving some towel, scissors, knife etc inside the body and add to futher

misery of patients

 

we see lawyers bungling cases

 

NOTHING HAPPENS FREE IT IS SOMEWHERE IN THE KARMA COIN OF BOTH THE ONE WHO HAS

TO UNDERGO IT AND ONE WHO DELIVERS SUCH things

 

the lucky ones or ones whose karma is better get timely advice in the last

minute mistakes r noticed and fixed

 

u wud have heard in most accident cases a few of ur own known ppl who wud have

canceleld their trip in last min and is alive than the ones who had gone on the

same day,

 

we must accept the good withthe bad rest is Almighty's grace

 

and our job is to both counsel people and also give them some solace, direction

of the bad and good things in a manner that befits the subject

 

quacks will harm the subject no doubt the karma of such quacks will be worse in

this life at the fag end or future lives so they must know the chain reaction

will be there

 

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND

 

we have todo our job sincerely with as much hones y as we can leave the rest to

the Almight

 

 

only in cases where the group's peace and interest suffers I will intervene else

allow members to make out the good and bad posts and ignore such members by

their experience here

 

just beauces it is free they must not get carried away and make wrong choices

 

after initial satisfaction on their cases it is better they seek personal paid

readings from such members who have done a good job

 

every individual has a living cost a family and its cost behind them like all

othr professions so making some money to live is no crime/sin it must not be

forced on ppl who can't pay

 

here we can see the karma of many who go to quacks and pay heavily but on to

quality ppl they pay pittance.or just a empty folded hand in MOST CASES. ir is

not just this they also trat such advice also poorly and pay the price come back

later and repent for it.

 

best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

 

Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:22:31 AM

Re: Everything on the name of Astrology: 23/8

 

 

 

 

Hare rama krishna

 

dear Prashanth ji

 

I find this trend in only net astrology recently who ever coming to

get predictions becoming astrologers in no matter of time ,and some

turns spiritualists (fake ) and claiming having done dasa mahavidyas and

fooling public and very senior most persons are sitting without raising

a concern .

 

some very educated persons requesting this persons to giv ashirvad .even

they r ready to shower their share of ingratitude and bad words who ever

spent on their charts but not this fake ppl and after so many trials

still matter is not solved and still showing their follery in this

matters .

 

some running own grps and trying their self building drama and making

of a gurudom in futre at the cost of 50 yr exprnced astrologers who has

no courage to talk against these things .

 

if some one talks against it treated as personal abuse .

 

so pls advice us how we can strt to expose such guys .And try to re

establish the glory of astrology ?

 

i posted that letter because i can save my typing time as i agree with

majority of the points expressed by that person ,so i dont even

undersign it and used his name itself .

 

This trends can stop when we seriously consider to put a full stop for

this kind of gimmics .

 

generaly public thinks free astrology is best and every thing in the

name of free is good .They dont know that the right dicision at right

time can save millions than paying some thing for astrologers than

listening to this fake ppl .

 

let ppl get what they seek .

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote:

>

> Sunil

>

> a good topic and has to be addressed by serious students, followers

and practioners of the subject

>

> this trend is more for entertainment and the rider must be given that

what is personally important must be sought from a professional or a

serious person

> this trend has no exception isn't law, beauty, yoga, medicine ,

cooking also reduced to such tamasha some r good most of them r just

media hoggers

>

> in most cases people can make out the good from the bad so we need not

worry abput it

>

> OUR JOB is to highlight the better side of astrology as we r domg om

sich forums people must know the depth, potential to address many serius

issue apart fromthe role astrologers play in giving pep talk, morale

boosting advices which can change a distressed, dissappointed mind to a

successful one whatver be the final outcome we lift them from the bottom

to a floating level, when they breath fresh air, instead of drowing this

life will open new doors for them

>

>

> responsiblities is both the astrologer community and the public at

large quality wil always win

>

> Best wishes

>

> prashant

>

>

>

>

> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

>

> Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:39:44 PM

> Everything on the name of Astrology:

>

>

>

>

> From past few years, the science of Astrology has undergone a

tremendous

> change, and it has also gained some reputation as well. Thanks to the

> new crop of news channels with a fancy crowd of tarot readers, coffee

> readers, self imposed psychics and unknown astrology experts. While

> these flamboyant people can be a serious source of amusement for a

> learned, they are treated as serious researchers by that layman out

> there. This is the part, which can really torment a sensitive brain. I

> mean, a mere look at those tarot readers can tell you that they are

not

> even aware of basics of astrology and yet they are playing with

> everybody's emotions. And they are not the only people involved; media

> has also got a piece in the cake.

>

> If you are serious astrologer, you would really get baffled by the

sway

> of commercialization in the purest spirit called astrology. I mean

just

> look around you, a cell phone with a mantra ringtone, a newspaper with

> twelve predictions, spread for more than 100 Million population, a

Short

> message service (SMS) alert for Future, a TV astrologer selling

mantras

> as vegetables. It seems realization has gone very cheap. As cheap as a

> thirty bucks cassette with some lone singer's mantra engraved on the

> magnetic tape with all that incorrect pronunciation of Sanskrit

> syllables. Predictions are cheap as some pocket size booklet which you

> can purchase on any book outlet. Nobody even dares to talk about

truth.

> Nobody is a culprit but except us, the common men. We have turned away

> the truth that something which is exceptional like a prediction cannot

> be so easy. We have turned away from the truth that molding the laws

of

> nature cannot be as damn easy as a, thug's reading from that left over

> coffee in our cup. All this is happening because we wanted it that

way.

> Think of those desperate parents who want to do anything to get their

> daughter married who is losing her age, think of that young lad who is

> not getting a permanent job, after so many distressed attempts in

> numerous companies. Our business, our laziness, our easy go

disposition,

> has harvested and watered the so called crop of thugs.

>

> Everybody is running after the crispy paper from the mint house, no

> matter what one has to do, one just do it without looking for

> consequences. Sometimes I feel that the laws should be stricter in our

> country. So strict, that thugs can't run their shops. Astrologers

should

> be charged thirty times of their fees, if the predictions go wrong.

> Tantrics should be charged fifty times of their fees, if results

> proclaimed do not materialize. But frankly, it will never happen.

After

> all this is the system. Everybody is a part of this system. A newest

> example is those (So called) saints, who were exposed in a sting

> operation. They were charging commissions for turning the black money

to

> legitimate money. None of those culprits were caught. They are still

> out, still spreading their pravanchans (preaching) on those money

hungry

> channels.

>

> This is the dilemma, the same population which considered them

culprits

> after the sting, now consider them saints. Our memories have weakened,

> may be because it is outside our family. It does not matter to us,

> because none of us got involved directly in it. So, no need to stop

> them. But one day, this virus will definitely enter our lives and then

> it will be too late. Turn me off, but on that day, there will be no

> panacea.

>

> Alok Jagawat

>

>