Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear Arjun garu, this is not true that freedom fighters did not use astrology, they did more so in the time when the LSY was there many wanted Independence after a yr, but Britiosh forces that were already Bankrupt due to world war 2 and already had emptied whatever they cud from the country wanted to quit asap, this is not a victory of the movement than their fatigue. same was with the leaders who were advided to postpone it leaders like Satyanarayana Sinha Dr Rajendra prasad, rajagopalachari wanted it delayed Nehru felt they were aging and hd no stamina to go to jails any longer, there r many references in History to this, the golden jubliee issue of SPAN, Outlook , India today etc will carry such references apart from any of that period. please find the link below and read it http://www.e-astrodesk.com/chapt20.asp this is from a book from Curzon to Nehru by Durga das a Collins publication in 1969 has several references to our freedom fighters using astrology Best wishes Prashant kumar panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:03:07 AM Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! dear krsihnan garu during medieval days, kings used to have raja (asthana) jyotishacharyas in the king's court who used to advise the kings of the good and bad muhurtas and also upayas like, yagams, homams, danams etc. for the wellbeing of the country as well as the king. since kingdoms are gone and democracy prevails, each king (read politicans) has his own astrologers and then some passing commenting astrologers in tv studios and newspapers who write on all. few years ago when chandrababu naidu was chief minister of andhra, his astrologer suggested that the present timing is good for winning and if he goes to polls as per schedule after one year, he would lose. blindly believeing his astrologer, babu called for polls, an year earlier and lost miserably so much so that he could not win even one third of the seats. hence manmohans' advise to change astrologers applies to babu as well. similar astrologers are forcing cineactor chiranjeevi to postpone by several months to announce his entry into politics. in freedom struggle, many true genuine freedom fighters joined politics to serve the country without consulting astrologers and all of them are reverred and remembered both by the government and the country even today. correlating astrology to mythology, i dare say that since the dharma of the land is in peril (since the king of the land disowns lord rama and calls him a myth one day and the next day he says that he finds mention in some vernacular version of a ramayana where rama himself damaged the bridge), protectors of dharma will romp to power in the next election viz. bjp winning the election and coming to power. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dea Shri Sastr Garu, > namskarams.A reference to Astrologers in Parliament though a feather in cap to this field. > yet if we have to stand to the expectations of multitudes,pavement approaches,foretell ing through parrots and depending only on eulogisers can not work. > Advani's apparoach to grab the seat of prime Minister makes him to loose his cool.After all ambition is one thing and fulfilling the wish is other thing for which you need all elements. > Manmohan ji graduated in Economics and worked for the cause of Nation.He knows rewards will come through his selfless approach.he is just simple person carrying congress falg.never wish to lead his party.Advani as head of the party depended on Astrologers and attained it couple of time.Now we need to really find whetehr the possibility at his doorstep in the next Election slated in Nov2009.By that time jupiter moves to capricorn sign and saturn rasi lord will be 6/8 eqation with ketu.So his plans are likely help him.Let Astrologers too be cool to anlyse and convey how good he stands next time > regards > vrkrishnan > > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! > > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:55 AM dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-- ------ > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote- ---- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Dear learned members, The Prime Minister's words were derogatory to astrologers. If needed Advani will change his astrologer for a wrong reading, but who will change the  economists of the nation for the economic and financial mess we are in. Oh! My apologies. Theuy have been changed already into pseudo prime ministers. Vats Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Sunday, 27 July, 2008 9:37:57 AM Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament!-pl read the link Dear Arjun garu, this is not true that freedom fighters did not use astrology, they did more so in the time when the LSY was there many wanted Independence after a yr, but Britiosh forces that were already Bankrupt due to world war 2 and already had emptied whatever they cud from the country wanted to quit asap, this is not a victory of the movement than their fatigue. same was with the leaders who were advided to postpone it leaders like Satyanarayana Sinha Dr Rajendra prasad, rajagopalachari wanted it delayed Nehru felt they were aging and hd no stamina to go to jails any longer, there r many references in History to this, the golden jubliee issue of SPAN, Outlook , India today etc will carry such references apart from any of that period. please find the link below and read it http://www.e- astrodesk. com/chapt20. asp this is from a book from Curzon to Nehru by Durga das a Collins publication in 1969 has several references to our freedom fighters using astrology Best wishes Prashant kumar panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:03:07 AM Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! dear krsihnan garu during medieval days, kings used to have raja (asthana) jyotishacharyas in the king's court who used to advise the kings of the good and bad muhurtas and also upayas like, yagams, homams, danams etc. for the wellbeing of the country as well as the king. since kingdoms are gone and democracy prevails, each king (read politicans) has his own astrologers and then some passing commenting astrologers in tv studios and newspapers who write on all. few years ago when chandrababu naidu was chief minister of andhra, his astrologer suggested that the present timing is good for winning and if he goes to polls as per schedule after one year, he would lose. blindly believeing his astrologer, babu called for polls, an year earlier and lost miserably so much so that he could not win even one third of the seats. hence manmohans' advise to change astrologers applies to babu as well. similar astrologers are forcing cineactor chiranjeevi to postpone by several months to announce his entry into politics. in freedom struggle, many true genuine freedom fighters joined politics to serve the country without consulting astrologers and all of them are reverred and remembered both by the government and the country even today. correlating astrology to mythology, i dare say that since the dharma of the land is in peril (since the king of the land disowns lord rama and calls him a myth one day and the next day he says that he finds mention in some vernacular version of a ramayana where rama himself damaged the bridge), protectors of dharma will romp to power in the next election viz. bjp winning the election and coming to power. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dea Shri Sastr Garu, > namskarams.A reference to Astrologers in Parliament though a feather in cap to this field. > yet if we have to stand to the expectations of multitudes,pavement approaches,foretell ing through parrots and depending only on eulogisers can not work. > Advani's apparoach to grab the seat of prime Minister makes him to loose his cool.After all ambition is one thing and fulfilling the wish is other thing for which you need all elements. > Manmohan ji graduated in Economics and worked for the cause of Nation.He knows rewards will come through his selfless approach.he is just simple person carrying congress falg.never wish to lead his party.Advani as head of the party depended on Astrologers and attained it couple of time.Now we need to really find whetehr the possibility at his doorstep in the next Election slated in Nov2009.By that time jupiter moves to capricorn sign and saturn rasi lord will be 6/8 eqation with ketu.So his plans are likely help him.Let Astrologers too be cool to anlyse and convey how good he stands next time > regards > vrkrishnan > > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! > > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:55 AM dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-- ------ > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote- ---- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Dear friend, Any professional shall have his own limitations.be it economist or Astrologer.Astrology is always a guiding factor to help humanity to overcome problems and obstrucles if any.Issues is Parliamnet relating to Treasury benches and opposition are cited in the context of events happening and the predictions expecte'coz of planets in transition.It is not we are citing personalities regards vrkrishnan --- On Sun, 8/3/08, PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123 wrote: PRADEEP SAHAI <sahaip123 Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament!-pl read the link Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:49 PM Dear learned members, The Prime Minister's words were derogatory to astrologers. If needed Advani will change his astrologer for a wrong reading, but who will change the economists of the nation for the economic and financial mess we are in. Oh! My apologies. Theuy have been changed already into pseudo prime ministers. Vats Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sunday, 27 July, 2008 9:37:57 AM Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament!- pl read the link Dear Arjun garu, this is not true that freedom fighters did not use astrology, they did more so in the time when the LSY was there many wanted Independence after a yr, but Britiosh forces that were already Bankrupt due to world war 2 and already had emptied whatever they cud from the country wanted to quit asap, this is not a victory of the movement than their fatigue. same was with the leaders who were advided to postpone it leaders like Satyanarayana Sinha Dr Rajendra prasad, rajagopalachari wanted it delayed Nehru felt they were aging and hd no stamina to go to jails any longer, there r many references in History to this, the golden jubliee issue of SPAN, Outlook , India today etc will carry such references apart from any of that period. please find the link below and read it http://www.e- astrodesk. com/chapt20. asp this is from a book from Curzon to Nehru by Durga das a Collins publication in 1969 has several references to our freedom fighters using astrology Best wishes Prashant kumar panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:03:07 AM Re: indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! dear krsihnan garu during medieval days, kings used to have raja (asthana) jyotishacharyas in the king's court who used to advise the kings of the good and bad muhurtas and also upayas like, yagams, homams, danams etc. for the wellbeing of the country as well as the king. since kingdoms are gone and democracy prevails, each king (read politicans) has his own astrologers and then some passing commenting astrologers in tv studios and newspapers who write on all. few years ago when chandrababu naidu was chief minister of andhra, his astrologer suggested that the present timing is good for winning and if he goes to polls as per schedule after one year, he would lose. blindly believeing his astrologer, babu called for polls, an year earlier and lost miserably so much so that he could not win even one third of the seats. hence manmohans' advise to change astrologers applies to babu as well. similar astrologers are forcing cineactor chiranjeevi to postpone by several months to announce his entry into politics. in freedom struggle, many true genuine freedom fighters joined politics to serve the country without consulting astrologers and all of them are reverred and remembered both by the government and the country even today. correlating astrology to mythology, i dare say that since the dharma of the land is in peril (since the king of the land disowns lord rama and calls him a myth one day and the next day he says that he finds mention in some vernacular version of a ramayana where rama himself damaged the bridge), protectors of dharma will romp to power in the next election viz. bjp winning the election and coming to power. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy .com , vattem krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dea Shri Sastr Garu, > namskarams.A reference to Astrologers in Parliament though a feather in cap to this field. > yet if we have to stand to the expectations of multitudes,pavement approaches,foretell ing through parrots and depending only on eulogisers can not work. > Advani's apparoach to grab the seat of prime Minister makes him to loose his cool.After all ambition is one thing and fulfilling the wish is other thing for which you need all elements. > Manmohan ji graduated in Economics and worked for the cause of Nation.He knows rewards will come through his selfless approach.he is just simple person carrying congress falg.never wish to lead his party.Advani as head of the party depended on Astrologers and attained it couple of time.Now we need to really find whetehr the possibility at his doorstep in the next Election slated in Nov2009.By that time jupiter moves to capricorn sign and saturn rasi lord will be 6/8 eqation with ketu.So his plans are likely help him.Let Astrologers too be cool to anlyse and convey how good he stands next time > regards > vrkrishnan > > > --- On Tue, 7/22/08, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> wrote: > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ ...> > indian prime minister praises astrologers in parliament! > > Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:55 AM dear friends > > indian prime minister manmohan singh mentioned the following lines > referring advaniji in his speech, an hour ago. > > -----quote-- ------ > To fulfill his ambitions, he has made at least three attempts to > topple our government. But on each occasion his astrologers have > misled him. This pattern, I am sure, will be repeated today. At his > ripe old age, I do not expect Shri Advani to change his thinking. But > for his sake and India's sake, I urge him at least to change his > astrologers so that he gets more accurate predictions of things to > come. > ------unquote- ---- > > while urging advaniji to change his astrologers to get more accurate > predictions of things to come, the prime minister is giving publicity > to astrology and astrologers! > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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