Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

[Guest guest]

But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

 

 

, pavan surpur

<surpurpavan wrote:

>

> Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the people.

Great Contribution to society keep going.

>  

> If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise to

the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

able to understand astrological terms.

>  

> For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people. End

result cruel amongst good friends.

>  

> Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you. Thanks to

all.

>  

> But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

>

> Regards

>

>

> pavankumar

[Guest guest]

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

permission...!

 

The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point are

not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and global

reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

 

Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

 

Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

 

RR

 

, srinivasa murthy adavi

<asmp2k02 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Pavan,

>

> The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1) alleviating

the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2)indirectly

educating other propspective would be astrologers,who'll serve people

like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

are presented along with the predictions/remedies,the 2nd objective

cannot be achieved.

>

> Wishing you Divine Grace

>

> Srinivas

>

> Quoting rohini_ranjan:

>

> > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

>

>

> , pavan surpur

> <surpurpavan@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the people.

> Great Contribution to society keep going.

> >  

> > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

to

> the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

> able to understand astrological terms.

> >  

> > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

End

> result cruel amongst good friends.

> >  

> > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you. Thanks

to

> all.

> >  

> > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > pavankumar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Pavan,

 

The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1) alleviating the

sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2)indirectly educating other

propspective would be astrologers,who'll serve people like you and me in

future.So unless the astrological technicalities are presented along with the

predictions/remedies,the 2nd objective cannot be achieved.

 

Wishing you Divine Grace

 

Srinivas

 

Quoting rohini_ranjan:

 

> But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

 

 

, pavan surpur

<surpurpavan wrote:

>

> Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the people.

Great Contribution to society keep going.

>  

> If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise to

the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

able to understand astrological terms.

>  

> For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people. End

result cruel amongst good friends.

>  

> Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you. Thanks to

all.

>  

> But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

>

> Regards

>

>

> pavankumar

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Srinivas ji,

These days no one likes to know technicalities and the justification there

off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule form and results in a time frame.

Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a professional

career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to take intiative to make his

knowledge available for social purposes and for guidance and invest their time.

Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self study and

understanding is preferred with the help of books avaialble in markets.Old and

traditional manners gave room to methods suitble in technology methods.

Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and relied upon to

over come the impediments.

Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology through media

made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People look forwrd to get advises

through a teletalk or eform.

These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to be catalytic

form to get success.

we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

vrkrishnan

 

 

--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

 

Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

permission.. .!

 

The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point are

not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and global

reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

 

Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

 

Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

 

RR

 

, srinivasa murthy adavi

<asmp2k02@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Pavan,

>

> The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1) alleviating

the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve people

like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd objective

cannot be achieved.

>

> Wishing you Divine Grace

>

> Srinivas

>

> Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

>

> > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

>

>

> , pavan surpur

> <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> >

> > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the people.

> Great Contribution to society keep going.

> >  

> > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

to

> the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

> able to understand astrological terms.

> >  

> > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

End

> result cruel amongst good friends.

> >  

> > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you. Thanks

to

> all.

> >  

> > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > pavankumar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

We take birth with the belief(though we're not aware) that there's a divine

benevolent force that protects us ,and we do so at the instant of death;in the

interim period there'll be fluctuations with this belief to varying degrees.

According to my understanding(may be little) it's still(and will be so) that

there's no better palliative than belief in this benevolent divine force

existence.A person without this belief will either become self destructive or

will destroy others.

Like evry other saastraas(whether ancient or modern) astrology also have

ups/downs in it's credibility.Here we've to apply Heisenberg's uncertaininty

principle to saastraas like astrology.Only the degree of uncertainity it varies

vis a vis modern saastraas(like physics.medicine.Say,as a civil engineer,I know

that all the formulae that i use are based on statistical results and then it's

adopted to societal well being after setting certain boundaries of operation.The

failure on setting such boundaries has become the point of contention with

astrology.May be with suitable tools/gadgets(may be of metaphysical) it regains

it's place.

Personally I take astrology(and will advise others also) as broad guidelines

when comes to predictive part but to take it with more firmness when it comes to

remedial part.Though I myself failed to do remedies with

devotion/concentration/patience(Shraddha and Saboori) ,but yet i advise not to

take me as example as i will also achieve more degree(by increasing my fath

quotient) gradually.Moreover I advise others to perform remedial measures at

their oppurtune time (when their mood is good and oriented to divine thoughts,to

whataever degree may be so);and if they fail not get deterred or despondent and

try again at oppurtune time again.This has reasonably good effect on others and

they slowly came to tracks.I advise many people not to get frightened when they

get angry with God and they be overtaken by negative thoughts(i myself had such

bouts)and treat it it as a similar fight with your parents and other near/dear

ones;Like how one makesup with them in due course of time in the same way the

bond with God will be reestablished.

to be continued....about the technicalities involved in astrology...

 

Srinivas

 

Quoting bursar_99:

 

> Dear Srinivas ji,

These days no one likes to know technicalities and the justification there

off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule form and results in a time frame.

Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a professional

career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to take intiative to make his

knowledge available for social purposes and for guidance and invest their time.

Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self study and

understanding is preferred with the help of books avaialble in markets.Old and

traditional manners gave room to methods suitble in technology methods.

Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and relied upon to

over come the impediments.

Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology through media

made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People look forwrd to get advises

through a teletalk or eform.

These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to be catalytic

form to get success.

we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

vrkrishnan

 

 

--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

 

Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

permission.. .!

 

The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point are

not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and global

reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

 

Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

 

Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

 

RR

 

, srinivasa murthy adavi

<asmp2k02@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Pavan,

>

> The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1) alleviating

the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve people

like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd objective

cannot be achieved.

>

> Wishing you Divine Grace

>

> Srinivas

>

> Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

>

> > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

>

>

> , pavan surpur

> <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> >

> > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the people.

> Great Contribution to society keep going.

> >  

> > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

to

> the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

> able to understand astrological terms.

> >  

> > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

End

> result cruel amongst good friends.

> >  

> > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you. Thanks

to

> all.

> >  

> > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > pavankumar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sir,

Let us hope the value of Astrology will be percieved and shall pave way for our

sentiments and convictions to be respected.

vrkrishnan.

 

--- On Wed, 7/9/08, srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 wrote:

 

srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

 

Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM

 

Dear Sir,

We take birth with the belief(though we're not aware) that there's a

divine benevolent force that protects us ,and we do so at the instant of

death;in the interim period there'll be fluctuations with this belief to

varying degrees.

According to my understanding(may be little) it's still(and will be so)

that there's no better palliative than belief in this benevolent divine

force existence.A person without this belief will either become self

destructive or will destroy others.

Like evry other saastraas(whether ancient or modern) astrology also have

ups/downs in it's credibility.Here we've to apply Heisenberg's

uncertaininty principle to saastraas like astrology.Only the degree of

uncertainity it varies vis a vis modern saastraas(like physics.medicine.Say,as

a civil engineer,I know that all the formulae that i use are based on

statistical results and then it's adopted to societal well being after

setting certain boundaries of operation.The failure on setting such boundaries

has become the point of contention with astrology.May be with suitable

tools/gadgets(may be of metaphysical) it regains it's place.

Personally I take astrology(and will advise others also) as broad guidelines

when comes to predictive part but to take it with more firmness when it comes

to remedial part.Though I myself failed to do remedies with

devotion/concentration/patience(Shraddha and Saboori) ,but yet i advise not to

take me as example as i will also achieve more degree(by increasing my fath

quotient) gradually.Moreover I advise others to perform remedial measures at

their oppurtune time (when their mood is good and oriented to divine

thoughts,to whataever degree may be so);and if they fail not get deterred or

despondent and try again at oppurtune time again.This has reasonably good

effect on others and they slowly came to tracks.I advise many people not to get

frightened when they get angry with God and they be overtaken by negative

thoughts(i myself had such bouts)and treat it it as a similar fight with your

parents and other near/dear ones;Like how one makesup with them in due course

of time in the same way the bond with God will be reestablished.

to be continued....about the technicalities involved in astrology...

 

Srinivas

 

Quoting bursar_99:

 

> Dear Srinivas ji,

These days no one likes to know technicalities and the justification there

off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule form and results in a time

frame.

Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a professional

career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to take intiative to make

his knowledge available for social purposes and for guidance and invest their

time.

Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self study and

understanding is preferred with the help of books avaialble in markets.Old and

traditional manners gave room to methods suitble in technology methods.

Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and relied upon to

over come the impediments.

Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology through media

made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People look forwrd to get advises

through a teletalk or eform.

These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to be catalytic

form to get success.

we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

vrkrishnan

 

 

--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

 

Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

permission.. .!

 

The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point are

not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and global

reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

 

Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

 

Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

 

RR

 

, srinivasa murthy adavi

<asmp2k02@.. .> wrote:

>

> Dear Mr Pavan,

>

> The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1) alleviating

the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve people

like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd objective

cannot be achieved.

>

> Wishing you Divine Grace

>

> Srinivas

>

> Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

>

> > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

>

>

> , pavan surpur

> <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> >

> > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the people.

> Great Contribution to society keep going.

> >  

> > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

to

> the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

 

> able to understand astrological terms.

> >  

> > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

End

> result cruel amongst good friends.

> >  

> > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you. Thanks

to

> all.

> >  

> > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > pavankumar

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Krishnanji,

 

Part of the reason also revolves around there being so many different

flavours and approaches and what not that most 'seekers' of readings

get confused because some one uses this ayanamsha and the other one

uses Jaimini or KP and so on and so forth. It is like trying to find

what ails you and what medicine you must take by attending a

Physician's conference!

 

Unfortunately, and despite some very strong claims made to the

contrary -- astrology will ALWAYS remain variegated. The different

nuances and approaches are all real and all will work. And beyond a

certain preliminary level it will not remain SIMPLE!

 

I do not blame the reading seekers who want to just know the

bottomline without the technical jargon. I have more problems, quite

frankly, with the half-baked ones who haven't spent enough time, have

read a few books here and there and think they are in a position fit

to critique others just because they watched some TV show or whatever

by a guru and presume that they have received the Gospel Truth!

 

Shanti...

 

RR

 

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Srinivas ji,

> These days no one likes to know technicalities and the

justification there off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule

form and results in a time frame.

> Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a

professional career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to

take intiative to make his knowledge available for social purposes

and for guidance and invest their time.

> Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self

study and understanding is preferred with the help of books avaialble

in markets.Old and traditional manners gave room to methods suitble

in technology methods.

> Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and

relied upon to over come the impediments.

> Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology

through media made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People

look forwrd to get advises through a teletalk or eform.

> These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to be

catalytic form to get success.

> we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

> vrkrishnan

>

>

> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

>

> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

> permission.. .!

>

> The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point

are

> not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

> some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

> hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and

global

> reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

> REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

>

> Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

> are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

> understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

> you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

>

> Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

>

> RR

>

> , srinivasa murthy adavi

> <asmp2k02@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr Pavan,

> >

> > The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1)

alleviating

> the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

> educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve

people

> like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

> are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd

objective

> cannot be achieved.

> >

> > Wishing you Divine Grace

> >

> > Srinivas

> >

> > Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

> >

> > > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

> >

> >

> > , pavan surpur

> > <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the

people.

> > Great Contribution to society keep going.

> > >  

> > > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

> to

> > the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

> > able to understand astrological terms.

> > >  

> > > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> > astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

> End

> > result cruel amongst good friends.

> > >  

> > > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you.

Thanks

> to

> > all.

> > >  

> > > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > pavankumar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The very fact that astrology and divination has survived long periods

of time and is inherently installed in nearly all different

communities, cultures, mature religions etc indicates to me that

there is something very PITHY going on that sustains it in our hearts

and soul. " THAT " , I submit is bigger than any religion, culture or

convention because it goes back to the time perhaps when human being

was simply human being and before the TRIBES and tribal mentality was

born! Tribes grew more complex and sophisticated and formed cultures

and religions but remained TRIBES!

 

It is time to reintegrate and not to remain segregated!

 

United we stand, divided we fall!

 

 

RR

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> Let us hope the value of Astrology will be percieved and shall pave

way for our sentiments and convictions to be respected.

> vrkrishnan.

>

> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02 wrote:

>

> srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02

> Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End

Results?

>

> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM

>

> Dear Sir,

> We take birth with the belief(though we're not aware) that there's a

> divine benevolent force that protects us ,and we do so at the

instant of

> death;in the interim period there'll be fluctuations with this

belief to

> varying degrees.

> According to my understanding(may be little) it's still(and will be

so)

> that there's no better palliative than belief in this benevolent

divine

> force existence.A person without this belief will either become self

> destructive or will destroy others.

> Like evry other saastraas(whether ancient or modern) astrology also

have

> ups/downs in it's credibility.Here we've to apply Heisenberg's

> uncertaininty principle to saastraas like astrology.Only the degree

of

> uncertainity it varies vis a vis modern saastraas(like

physics.medicine.Say,as

> a civil engineer,I know that all the formulae that i use are based

on

> statistical results and then it's adopted to societal well being

after

> setting certain boundaries of operation.The failure on setting such

boundaries

> has become the point of contention with astrology.May be with

suitable

> tools/gadgets(may be of metaphysical) it regains it's place.

> Personally I take astrology(and will advise others also) as broad

guidelines

> when comes to predictive part but to take it with more firmness

when it comes

> to remedial part.Though I myself failed to do remedies with

> devotion/concentration/patience(Shraddha and Saboori) ,but yet i

advise not to

> take me as example as i will also achieve more degree(by increasing

my fath

> quotient) gradually.Moreover I advise others to perform remedial

measures at

> their oppurtune time (when their mood is good and oriented to divine

> thoughts,to whataever degree may be so);and if they fail not get

deterred or

> despondent and try again at oppurtune time again.This has

reasonably good

> effect on others and they slowly came to tracks.I advise many

people not to get

> frightened when they get angry with God and they be overtaken by

negative

> thoughts(i myself had such bouts)and treat it it as a similar fight

with your

> parents and other near/dear ones;Like how one makesup with them in

due course

> of time in the same way the bond with God will be reestablished.

> to be continued....about the technicalities involved in astrology...

>

> Srinivas

>

> Quoting bursar_99:

>

> > Dear Srinivas ji,

> These days no one likes to know technicalities and the

justification there

> off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule form and results in

a time

> frame.

> Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a

professional

> career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to take intiative

to make

> his knowledge available for social purposes and for guidance and

invest their

> time.

> Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self

study and

> understanding is preferred with the help of books avaialble in

markets.Old and

> traditional manners gave room to methods suitble in technology

methods.

> Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and

relied upon to

> over come the impediments.

> Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology

through media

> made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People look forwrd to

get advises

> through a teletalk or eform.

> These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to be

catalytic

> form to get success.

> we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

> vrkrishnan

>

>

> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

>

> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

> permission.. .!

>

> The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point

are

> not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

> some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

> hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and

global

> reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

> REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

>

> Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

> are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

> understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

> you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

>

> Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

>

> RR

>

> , srinivasa murthy adavi

> <asmp2k02@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr Pavan,

> >

> > The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1)

alleviating

> the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

> educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve

people

> like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

> are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd

objective

> cannot be achieved.

> >

> > Wishing you Divine Grace

> >

> > Srinivas

> >

> > Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

> >

> > > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

> >

> >

> > , pavan surpur

> > <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the

people.

> > Great Contribution to society keep going.

> > >  

> > > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

> to

> > the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

>

> > able to understand astrological terms.

> > >  

> > > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> > astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

> End

> > result cruel amongst good friends.

> > >  

> > > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you.

Thanks

> to

> > all.

> > >  

> > > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > pavankumar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

I agree with you.Astrology is in a state of metamorphosis.From tradiyional

aspects of Astrology to present understanding is certainly becoming hollower and

hollower unless the one practising to adopts to the on going trends.May be it is

not our wish and liking.Nor can we digest.Also difficult to be mute in these

situations.

where we find some body is amenable to understand implications and desires to

understand technolological jargons.we need to feed and suggest also a manner to

understand.we have to be xplicit and say one night so journ and travel reading

of Astrology is not the way/method

krishnan

 

--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

 

Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:46 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Krishnanji,

 

Part of the reason also revolves around there being so many different

flavours and approaches and what not that most 'seekers' of readings

get confused because some one uses this ayanamsha and the other one

uses Jaimini or KP and so on and so forth. It is like trying to find

what ails you and what medicine you must take by attending a

Physician's conference!

 

Unfortunately, and despite some very strong claims made to the

contrary -- astrology will ALWAYS remain variegated. The different

nuances and approaches are all real and all will work. And beyond a

certain preliminary level it will not remain SIMPLE!

 

I do not blame the reading seekers who want to just know the

bottomline without the technical jargon. I have more problems, quite

frankly, with the half-baked ones who haven't spent enough time, have

read a few books here and there and think they are in a position fit

to critique others just because they watched some TV show or whatever

by a guru and presume that they have received the Gospel Truth!

 

Shanti...

 

RR

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Srinivas ji,

> These days no one likes to know technicalities and the

justification there off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule

form and results in a time frame.

> Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a

professional career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to

take intiative to make his knowledge available for social purposes

and for guidance and invest their time.

> Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self

study and understanding is preferred with the help of books avaialble

in markets.Old and traditional manners gave room to methods suitble

in technology methods.

> Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and

relied upon to over come the impediments.

> Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology

through media made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People

look forwrd to get advises through a teletalk or eform.

> These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to be

catalytic form to get success.

> we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

> vrkrishnan

>

>

> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

>

> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence and

> permission.. .!

>

> The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point

are

> not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid as

> some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW (one

> hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and

global

> reality and in very strong flavours which has already created many

> REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

>

> Please educate us what these definitive astrological technicalities

> are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

> understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share why

> you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

>

> Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

>

> RR

>

> , srinivasa murthy adavi

> <asmp2k02@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr Pavan,

> >

> > The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1)

alleviating

> the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

> educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve

people

> like you and me in future.So unless the astrological technicalities

> are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd

objective

> cannot be achieved.

> >

> > Wishing you Divine Grace

> >

> > Srinivas

> >

> > Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

> >

> > > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-)

> >

> >

> > , pavan surpur

> > <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the

people.

> > Great Contribution to society keep going.

> > >  

> > > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be precise

> to

> > the answer's don't provide more details because normal people not

> > able to understand astrological terms.

> > >  

> > > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> > astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many people.

> End

> > result cruel amongst good friends.

> > >  

> > > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you.

Thanks

> to

> > all.

> > >  

> > > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > pavankumar

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Krishnan ji,

 

Astrology -- or at least jyotish had always been FIXED in its VERY

BASIC AND FUNDAMENTAL FOUNDATION, but I know what you mean!

 

How would you like to change the milieu that surrounds Jyotish as we

see it today, if you could?

 

RR

 

 

, vattem krishnan

<bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> I agree with you.Astrology is in a state of metamorphosis.From

tradiyional aspects of Astrology to present understanding is

certainly becoming hollower and hollower unless the one practising to

adopts to the on going trends.May be it is not our wish and

liking.Nor can we digest.Also difficult to be mute in these

situations.

> where we find some body is amenable to understand implications and

desires to understand technolological jargons.we need to feed and

suggest also a manner to understand.we have to be xplicit and say one

night so journ and travel reading of Astrology is not the way/method

> krishnan

>

> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

>

> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:46 PM

Krishnanji,

>

> Part of the reason also revolves around there being so many

different

> flavours and approaches and what not that most 'seekers' of

readings

> get confused because some one uses this ayanamsha and the other one

> uses Jaimini or KP and so on and so forth. It is like trying to

find

> what ails you and what medicine you must take by attending a

> Physician's conference!

>

> Unfortunately, and despite some very strong claims made to the

> contrary -- astrology will ALWAYS remain variegated. The different

> nuances and approaches are all real and all will work. And beyond a

> certain preliminary level it will not remain SIMPLE!

>

> I do not blame the reading seekers who want to just know the

> bottomline without the technical jargon. I have more problems,

quite

> frankly, with the half-baked ones who haven't spent enough time,

have

> read a few books here and there and think they are in a position

fit

> to critique others just because they watched some TV show or

whatever

> by a guru and presume that they have received the Gospel Truth!

>

> Shanti...

>

> RR

>

> , vattem krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Srinivas ji,

> > These days no one likes to know technicalities and the

> justification there off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule

> form and results in a time frame.

> > Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises it is to lead a

> professional career approach.Very few Astrologers  are willing to

> take intiative to make his knowledge available for social purposes

> and for guidance and invest their time.

> > Even learning process too underwent a sea of change.Mostly self

> study and understanding is preferred with the help of books

avaialble

> in markets.Old and traditional manners gave room to methods suitble

> in technology methods.

> > Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken up firmly and

> relied upon to over come the impediments.

> > Infact,the great form publicity acquired by traditional astrology

> through media made simplification of Conventional Astrology.People

> look forwrd to get advises through a teletalk or eform.

> > These days AStrology has become objective oriented and desire to

be

> catalytic form to get success.

> > we have no option except to accept technology driven approaches.

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> > Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End

Results?

> >

> > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your kind indulgence

and

> > permission.. .!

> >

> > The technicalities which I presume you refer to in your 2nd point

> are

> > not to be presumed to be incontrovertibly defined and rock-solid

as

> > some religion and as we who must live in this real world KNOW

(one

> > hopes?) even religion comes in many flavours in this world and

> global

> > reality and in very strong flavours which has already created

many

> > REAL problems as some think and realize (again, hopefully?).

> >

> > Please educate us what these definitive astrological

technicalities

> > are, as they have presented to you in your saadhanaa and

> > understanding so far? And also if you do not mind, please share

why

> > you think there is only ONE kind, if that is the case!

> >

> > Thanking you in advance for your kind sharing...

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , srinivasa murthy adavi

> > <asmp2k02@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Pavan,

> > >

> > > The objectives of such service oriented forums are (1)

> alleviating

> > the sufferings of individuals through astrology;(2) indirectly

> > educating other propspective would be astrologers, who'll serve

> people

> > like you and me in future.So unless the astrological

technicalities

> > are presented along with the predictions/ remedies, the 2nd

> objective

> > cannot be achieved.

> > >

> > > Wishing you Divine Grace

> > >

> > > Srinivas

> > >

> > > Quoting rohini_ranjan@ ...:

> > >

> > > > But Pavan ji -- Mr. Nair did answer you in message # 50668! ;-

)

> > >

> > >

> > > , pavan surpur

> > > <surpurpavan@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks to one and all. One of the best forum helping the

> people.

> > > Great Contribution to society keep going.

> > > >  

> > > > If you all don't mind i would i like to suggest that be

precise

> > to

> > > the answer's don't provide more details because normal people

not

> > > able to understand astrological terms.

> > > >  

> > > > For.eg in may case so many people explained the details about

> > > astrological terms, so which lead to debut among so many

people.

> > End

> > > result cruel amongst good friends.

> > > >  

> > > > Please forgive me if suggestion is not apporipate to you.

> Thanks

> > to

> > > all.

> > > >  

> > > > But still i didn't got answer from anyone i.e Yes or No?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > pavankumar

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Wow Rohini Bhai, you have some element of Ab Linc in

you...LOL after reading the following piece...my

twisted sense of humor..hope you are doing good

ms

--- Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

> The very fact that astrology and divination has

> survived long periods

> of time and is inherently installed in nearly all

> different

> communities, cultures, mature religions etc

> indicates to me that

> there is something very PITHY going on that sustains

> it in our hearts

> and soul. " THAT " , I submit is bigger than any

> religion, culture or

> convention because it goes back to the time perhaps

> when human being

> was simply human being and before the TRIBES and

> tribal mentality was

> born! Tribes grew more complex and sophisticated and

> formed cultures

> and religions but remained TRIBES!

>

> It is time to reintegrate and not to remain

> segregated!

>

> United we stand, divided we fall!

>

>

> RR

>

>

> , vattem

> krishnan

> <bursar_99 wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> > Let us hope the value of Astrology will be

> percieved and shall pave

> way for our sentiments and convictions to be

> respected.

> > vrkrishnan.

> >

> > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, srinivasa murthy adavi

> <asmp2k02 wrote:

> >

> > srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02

> > Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous

> Astrologer?End

> Results?

> >

> > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > We take birth with the belief(though we're not

> aware) that there's a

> > divine benevolent force that protects us ,and we

> do so at the

> instant of

> > death;in the interim period there'll be

> fluctuations with this

> belief to

> > varying degrees.

> > According to my understanding(may be little) it's

> still(and will be

> so)

> > that there's no better palliative than belief in

> this benevolent

> divine

> > force existence.A person without this belief will

> either become self

> > destructive or will destroy others.

> > Like evry other saastraas(whether ancient or

> modern) astrology also

> have

> > ups/downs in it's credibility.Here we've to apply

> Heisenberg's

> > uncertaininty principle to saastraas like

> astrology.Only the degree

> of

> > uncertainity it varies vis a vis modern

> saastraas(like

> physics.medicine.Say,as

> > a civil engineer,I know that all the formulae that

> i use are based

> on

> > statistical results and then it's adopted to

> societal well being

> after

> > setting certain boundaries of operation.The

> failure on setting such

> boundaries

> > has become the point of contention with

> astrology.May be with

> suitable

> > tools/gadgets(may be of metaphysical) it regains

> it's place.

> > Personally I take astrology(and will advise others

> also) as broad

> guidelines

> > when comes to predictive part but to take it with

> more firmness

> when it comes

> > to remedial part.Though I myself failed to do

> remedies with

> > devotion/concentration/patience(Shraddha and

> Saboori) ,but yet i

> advise not to

> > take me as example as i will also achieve more

> degree(by increasing

> my fath

> > quotient) gradually.Moreover I advise others to

> perform remedial

> measures at

> > their oppurtune time (when their mood is good and

> oriented to divine

> > thoughts,to whataever degree may be so);and if

> they fail not get

> deterred or

> > despondent and try again at oppurtune time

> again.This has

> reasonably good

> > effect on others and they slowly came to tracks.I

> advise many

> people not to get

> > frightened when they get angry with God and they

> be overtaken by

> negative

> > thoughts(i myself had such bouts)and treat it it

> as a similar fight

> with your

> > parents and other near/dear ones;Like how one

> makesup with them in

> due course

> > of time in the same way the bond with God will be

> reestablished.

> > to be continued....about the technicalities

> involved in astrology...

> >

> > Srinivas

> >

> > Quoting bursar_99:

> >

> > > Dear Srinivas ji,

> > These days no one likes to know technicalities and

> the

> justification there

> > off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule

> form and results in

> a time

> > frame.

> > Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises

> it is to lead a

> professional

> > career approach.Very few Astrologers  are

> willing to take intiative

> to make

> > his knowledge available for social purposes and

> for guidance and

> invest their

> > time.

> > Even learning process too underwent a sea of

> change.Mostly self

> study and

> > understanding is preferred with the help of books

> avaialble in

> markets.Old and

> > traditional manners gave room to methods suitble

> in technology

> methods.

> > Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken

> up firmly and

> relied upon to

> > over come the impediments.

> > Infact,the great form publicity acquired by

> traditional astrology

> through media

> > made simplification of Conventional

> Astrology.People look forwrd to

> get advises

> > through a teletalk or eform.

> > These days AStrology has become objective oriented

> and desire to be

> catalytic

> > form to get success.

> > we have no option except to accept technology

> driven approaches.

> > vrkrishnan

> >

> >

> > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan

> <rohini_ranjan wrote:

> >

> > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

> > Re: Sir can I become a Famous

> Astrologer?End Results?

> >

> > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your

> kind indulgence and

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

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, Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000 wrote:

>

> Wow Rohini Bhai, you have some element of Ab Linc in

> you...LOL after reading the following piece...my

> twisted sense of humor..hope you are doing good

> ms

> --- Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> > The very fact that astrology and divination has

> > survived long periods

> > of time and is inherently installed in nearly all

> > different

> > communities, cultures, mature religions etc

> > indicates to me that

> > there is something very PITHY going on that sustains

> > it in our hearts

> > and soul. " THAT " , I submit is bigger than any

> > religion, culture or

> > convention because it goes back to the time perhaps

> > when human being

> > was simply human being and before the TRIBES and

> > tribal mentality was

> > born! Tribes grew more complex and sophisticated and

> > formed cultures

> > and religions but remained TRIBES!

> >

> > It is time to reintegrate and not to remain

> > segregated!

> >

> > United we stand, divided we fall!

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , vattem

> > krishnan

> > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > Let us hope the value of Astrology will be

> > percieved and shall pave

> > way for our sentiments and convictions to be

> > respected.

> > > vrkrishnan.

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, srinivasa murthy adavi

> > <asmp2k02@> wrote:

> > >

> > > srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02@>

> > > Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous

> > Astrologer?End

> > Results?

> > >

> > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > > We take birth with the belief(though we're not

> > aware) that there's a

> > > divine benevolent force that protects us ,and we

> > do so at the

> > instant of

> > > death;in the interim period there'll be

> > fluctuations with this

> > belief to

> > > varying degrees.

> > > According to my understanding(may be little) it's

> > still(and will be

> > so)

> > > that there's no better palliative than belief in

> > this benevolent

> > divine

> > > force existence.A person without this belief will

> > either become self

> > > destructive or will destroy others.

> > > Like evry other saastraas(whether ancient or

> > modern) astrology also

> > have

> > > ups/downs in it's credibility.Here we've to apply

> > Heisenberg's

> > > uncertaininty principle to saastraas like

> > astrology.Only the degree

> > of

> > > uncertainity it varies vis a vis modern

> > saastraas(like

> > physics.medicine.Say,as

> > > a civil engineer,I know that all the formulae that

> > i use are based

> > on

> > > statistical results and then it's adopted to

> > societal well being

> > after

> > > setting certain boundaries of operation.The

> > failure on setting such

> > boundaries

> > > has become the point of contention with

> > astrology.May be with

> > suitable

> > > tools/gadgets(may be of metaphysical) it regains

> > it's place.

> > > Personally I take astrology(and will advise others

> > also) as broad

> > guidelines

> > > when comes to predictive part but to take it with

> > more firmness

> > when it comes

> > > to remedial part.Though I myself failed to do

> > remedies with

> > > devotion/concentration/patience(Shraddha and

> > Saboori) ,but yet i

> > advise not to

> > > take me as example as i will also achieve more

> > degree(by increasing

> > my fath

> > > quotient) gradually.Moreover I advise others to

> > perform remedial

> > measures at

> > > their oppurtune time (when their mood is good and

> > oriented to divine

> > > thoughts,to whataever degree may be so);and if

> > they fail not get

> > deterred or

> > > despondent and try again at oppurtune time

> > again.This has

> > reasonably good

> > > effect on others and they slowly came to tracks.I

> > advise many

> > people not to get

> > > frightened when they get angry with God and they

> > be overtaken by

> > negative

> > > thoughts(i myself had such bouts)and treat it it

> > as a similar fight

> > with your

> > > parents and other near/dear ones;Like how one

> > makesup with them in

> > due course

> > > of time in the same way the bond with God will be

> > reestablished.

> > > to be continued....about the technicalities

> > involved in astrology...

> > >

> > > Srinivas

> > >

> > > Quoting bursar_99@:

> > >

> > > > Dear Srinivas ji,

> > > These days no one likes to know technicalities and

> > the

> > justification there

> > > off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule

> > form and results in

> > a time

> > > frame.

> > > Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises

> > it is to lead a

> > professional

> > > career approach.Very few Astrologers  are

> > willing to take intiative

> > to make

> > > his knowledge available for social purposes and

> > for guidance and

> > invest their

> > > time.

> > > Even learning process too underwent a sea of

> > change.Mostly self

> > study and

> > > understanding is preferred with the help of books

> > avaialble in

> > markets.Old and

> > > traditional manners gave room to methods suitble

> > in technology

> > methods.

> > > Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken

> > up firmly and

> > relied upon to

> > > over come the impediments.

> > > Infact,the great form publicity acquired by

> > traditional astrology

> > through media

> > > made simplification of Conventional

> > Astrology.People look forwrd to

> > get advises

> > > through a teletalk or eform.

> > > These days AStrology has become objective oriented

> > and desire to be

> > catalytic

> > > form to get success.

> > > we have no option except to accept technology

> > driven approaches.

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan

> > <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@>

> > > Re: Sir can I become a Famous

> > Astrologer?End Results?

> > >

> > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your

> > kind indulgence and

> >

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Dear Shri Rohini da

Jyotish that remained mostly in palm leaves and used mostly to please the rulers

and kings at one time is now available in different forms at arms length.Thanks

to electronic form of communication systems.

May be other wise this advent of button culture arising out of technology

explosion making a sedate life.As a result we spend time mostly in drawing rooms

either before TV or Computer.if we closely examine this tendency existed when

there was nothing to term as technology  to help prehistoric man to make a

quality life as the gropus of tribals were also living in isolation but strong

human bond/connection.Today some how the sophisticated culture reduced the

element of human connectivity/bondship and also the community form of living.

Certainly this (tendency if not a new trend/culture)is alienating us to

understand the essence of community living and to be humane to bring us closer

and understand various complexities of our Nature.

The Astrology otherwise meant to guide and help and human beings in day to day

matters is being relearnt in a different form.No doubt is lacking the essential

human touch/feeling.

 

Today the trend/culture is to express through media and preferably electronic

which does not enable direct contact with men and matters.No doubt this media

gives lot more room and indiscrimnate and unchecked liberty.Perhaps we do not

feel we r really in isolation in the process.To some extent the learning methods

too have got transformed from the earlier accepted GURU_SISHSYA Parampara.

The mode to learn in a Guru Kula and in a group enabled people to understand

better and appreciate the baton of culture handed over to carry to future.There

were discussions,exchanges and verifications in group meets which other wise

could be labelled as brain storms.

Now with the Class room to the home and distance learning's prominence is

definetely set in the isolation .So the lack of intimacy and feeling no concern

for others otherwise make us more individualistic make us more divided and

alienated.

In earlier times living in groups and premitive culture of " might is right " and

" survival of the fittest " due to lack of aids and techology made humans to put

in more efforts to gain knowledge or anything else needful to make a life.The

button culture in a different way contributing to divisive tendencies and

unchecked standards of knowledge and the transformation brought in the style of

living making us more seperate from each one of us.

The factor of  binding humans  through religion,culture and other factor of

 social animal nature of the human being changed a lot to think " divided we

fall " .Those elements of " doing things together " are no more seen.Certainly this

complexity is again taking us to tribalised ways with animosity and heightened

tensions in secluded living forms.Perhaps this is what we take to future due to

lack of joint family system that was prevalent in earlier days to accommodate

and respect others views and feelings.

I c some hope in this platform that we r able to review the status and feel the

lacking of human touch that may contribute divisive forms.

regards

vrkrishnan

--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?End Results?

 

Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:55 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I shall stop attending concerts and dramas etc, right away!

 

, Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

>

> Wow Rohini Bhai, you have some element of Ab Linc in

> you...LOL after reading the following piece...my

> twisted sense of humor..hope you are doing good

> ms

> --- Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ ...> wrote:

>

> > The very fact that astrology and divination has

> > survived long periods

> > of time and is inherently installed in nearly all

> > different

> > communities, cultures, mature religions etc

> > indicates to me that

> > there is something very PITHY going on that sustains

> > it in our hearts

> > and soul. " THAT " , I submit is bigger than any

> > religion, culture or

> > convention because it goes back to the time perhaps

> > when human being

> > was simply human being and before the TRIBES and

> > tribal mentality was

> > born! Tribes grew more complex and sophisticated and

> > formed cultures

> > and religions but remained TRIBES!

> >

> > It is time to reintegrate and not to remain

> > segregated!

> >

> > United we stand, divided we fall!

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , vattem

> > krishnan

> > <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > Let us hope the value of Astrology will be

> > percieved and shall pave

> > way for our sentiments and convictions to be

> > respected.

> > > vrkrishnan.

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, srinivasa murthy adavi

> > <asmp2k02@> wrote:

> > >

> > > srinivasa murthy adavi <asmp2k02@>

> > > Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous

> > Astrologer?End

> > Results?

> > >

> > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:23 AM

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > > We take birth with the belief(though we're not

> > aware) that there's a

> > > divine benevolent force that protects us ,and we

> > do so at the

> > instant of

> > > death;in the interim period there'll be

> > fluctuations with this

> > belief to

> > > varying degrees.

> > > According to my understanding( may be little) it's

> > still(and will be

> > so)

> > > that there's no better palliative than belief in

> > this benevolent

> > divine

> > > force existence.A person without this belief will

> > either become self

> > > destructive or will destroy others.

> > > Like evry other saastraas(whether ancient or

> > modern) astrology also

> > have

> > > ups/downs in it's credibility. Here we've to apply

> > Heisenberg's

> > > uncertaininty principle to saastraas like

> > astrology.Only the degree

> > of

> > > uncertainity it varies vis a vis modern

> > saastraas(like

> > physics.medicine. Say,as

> > > a civil engineer,I know that all the formulae that

> > i use are based

> > on

> > > statistical results and then it's adopted to

> > societal well being

> > after

> > > setting certain boundaries of operation.The

> > failure on setting such

> > boundaries

> > > has become the point of contention with

> > astrology.May be with

> > suitable

> > > tools/gadgets( may be of metaphysical) it regains

> > it's place.

> > > Personally I take astrology(and will advise others

> > also) as broad

> > guidelines

> > > when comes to predictive part but to take it with

> > more firmness

> > when it comes

> > > to remedial part.Though I myself failed to do

> > remedies with

> > > devotion/concentrat ion/patience( Shraddha and

> > Saboori) ,but yet i

> > advise not to

> > > take me as example as i will also achieve more

> > degree(by increasing

> > my fath

> > > quotient) gradually.Moreover I advise others to

> > perform remedial

> > measures at

> > > their oppurtune time (when their mood is good and

> > oriented to divine

> > > thoughts,to whataever degree may be so);and if

> > they fail not get

> > deterred or

> > > despondent and try again at oppurtune time

> > again.This has

> > reasonably good

> > > effect on others and they slowly came to tracks.I

> > advise many

> > people not to get

> > > frightened when they get angry with God and they

> > be overtaken by

> > negative

> > > thoughts(i myself had such bouts)and treat it it

> > as a similar fight

> > with your

> > > parents and other near/dear ones;Like how one

> > makesup with them in

> > due course

> > > of time in the same way the bond with God will be

> > reestablished.

> > > to be continued... .about the technicalities

> > involved in astrology...

> > >

> > > Srinivas

> > >

> > > Quoting bursar_99@:

> > >

> > > > Dear Srinivas ji,

> > > These days no one likes to know technicalities and

> > the

> > justification there

> > > off.Those who approach astrologer want capsule

> > form and results in

> > a time

> > > frame.

> > > Secondly when interest to learn astrology arises

> > it is to lead a

> > professional

> > > career approach.Very few Astrologers  are

> > willing to take intiative

> > to make

> > > his knowledge available for social purposes and

> > for guidance and

> > invest their

> > > time.

> > > Even learning process too underwent a sea of

> > change.Mostly self

> > study and

> > > understanding is preferred with the help of books

> > avaialble in

> > markets.Old and

> > > traditional manners gave room to methods suitble

> > in technology

> > methods.

> > > Thirdly remedial aspects suggested are never taken

> > up firmly and

> > relied upon to

> > > over come the impediments.

> > > Infact,the great form publicity acquired by

> > traditional astrology

> > through media

> > > made simplification of Conventional

> > Astrology.People look forwrd to

> > get advises

> > > through a teletalk or eform.

> > > These days AStrology has become objective oriented

> > and desire to be

> > catalytic

> > > form to get success.

> > > we have no option except to accept technology

> > driven approaches.

> > > vrkrishnan

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Rohiniranjan

> > <rohini_ranjan@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ >

> > > Re: Sir can I become a Famous

> > Astrologer?End Results?

> > >

> > > Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 1:19 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > But Srinivasa ji, if I may interject with your

> > kind indulgence and

> >

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