Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? 7/7 p2

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishna ji,

 

nice to see ur illuminating thoughts again

 

On Rajeswari raman's case isn't it sad that after raman's demise her life is

become so miserable as bad as the Astrological magazine.

 

B V RAMAN had ebough foresight in at least saving ICAS in time and put justice

kapoor in the helm, knowing what it wud if he did not hasten it, but as far as

his family is concerned he never did anything to prevent its ruin. allowing it

to endure the karmic currents and reach a shore so dictated.

 

Raman left no will, his sons esp Niranjan Bbu threw rajeswari raman out of the

family home, when gayithri devi gave her shelter she was unseated from the

magazine and it ran a lack lusture 4 month life and went into coma or death god

knows. now she too is left uncared for with no resources and work

 

I remember ina AGM of ICAS 3 yrs ago when justice kapoor wanted to quit the job

after his only daughter and son in law died in a accident in the grief stricken

state. had no enthusiasm to continue. and wanted Gayathri devi to take over/

 

but gayathri devi was [also aware of her fathers vision of their future] and

said her father had witha vision, purpouse given him the role and it had to

prevail as he was the best suited and hand picked

 

when we see their future now it stands vindicated

 

Niranjan babu wanted all ICAS members to to AM and he be made ICAS

president, both were turned down as these r not inherited but earned

distinctions.

 

We only hope such a great lineage will come to a good shore soon.

though we know what can come our way we have to wait its course, suffer its

might or its pleaseures

 

some members have been asking me for updates on raman's magazine, and want to do

something to revive it, we must all put our hands and heads together and let it

reach back its glory a great magazine and a sad end to it is uncecoming.

 

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant kumar

 

 

 

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99

 

Monday, July 7, 2008 1:08:24 PM

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? 7/7

 

 

Dear Prashant ji,

Thank you for your reieterations. When we work with sincerely and with devotion

towards the reverred science of Astrology,planets do promote and encourage for

rendering services as Astrologers. I remeber that persons running the dasa of

Jupiter including anatar of Saturn and the other way of Saturn dasa and and

antar of jupiter,people develop inclination for study of Astrology.Often this

aspect of a persons keen interest used to be the focal point in discussions of

ICAS classes.Shri K.N.Rao ji also used to deliberate before his students from

time to time.

As far as the context of Famous Astrologer is concerned.it is a consitent

approach to help the natives in dire needs and help them to overcome their

turbulent times.In all these issues.Once Karma of the Individual provides

fitness and Almighty's benevolance is always there for every one that desire to

be an Astrologer.Famous or otherwise are subjective issues.In any case one has

to seek the favour of Sun,the palnetary King to bestow his wishes too for

getting popularity and work for the benifit of Society.

regards

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? 7/7

 

Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:44 AM

 

Dear Krishna ji

 

welcome back it is been a long time and we miss ur great inputs in the subject

we used to see till a few yrs back, I hope u will be able to get some time for

the groups again.

 

this post by you and sri RR-ji are quite good and reflect the real spirit of a

jyotishi and those who try to study the subject must also try to inculcate the

same spirit in their life, apporach to issues too theresults can get better with

application and time. what we study is just a mere guide and how we use it is

surely a interplay of idnividual karma and almighty's grace.

 

Best wishes

 

prashant kumar

 

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:44:47 AM

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?

 

Dear Shri Rohinida,

It is long time to see your advice and harmonise the essence of Astrology as

service first and lattter any thing.

The Study of Planets with reference to Individulas and the suggestions made

should help the individual to understand the problems of life and means to

resolve.Being an absolute faith science some times a tendency is noticed to

question veracity of the predictions made and the Astrologers views

It is beyond doubts that all planets support human endeavours and give clues to

lead a balanced and meaningful life.It depends on what we really want to pursue

by study of Astrology

So it is beyond doubt that any body can become an Astrologer if intends

seriously and understand various issues connected with this study.

 

regards

vrkrishnan

regards

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:03 PM

 

Dear Ashok,

 

If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here

is what I would do:

 

a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after

defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer

are*.

 

b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next

examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as

the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*.

 

The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of

emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere

and serious question to begin with!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

* This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes

an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it

someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and

has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about

astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated

treating it as a saadhanaa...

 

Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the

Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not

necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize

it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their

spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual

through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that,

indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all

the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual!

That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT!

 

I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the

greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read

about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed

many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to

bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to

understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] .

 

When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all

this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or

whatever simply vanished!

 

ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST

GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET

DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN

WAIT!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir

>

> Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good

> predictions? ??

> Kindly specify other requirements also??

>

> Regards

> Ashok

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear Pavan ji

> >

> > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for

> predictions .

> >

> > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd

> bhava ,Vaak

> > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in

> 12th

> > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take

> > mantra frm some competent one .

> >

> > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u

> understand

> > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha

poojas

> daily

> > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important .

> >

> > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in

> > coming days ,so try now confidently .

> >

> > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected .

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , pavan surpur

<surpurpavan@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from

7

> years

> > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS)

> > > My details are as below

> > > DOB: 24/10/1975

> > > Time:-05.55 AM

> > > Place of birth:- Mumbai

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > pavankumar

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

This is where inquisitive Astrologers and those aspiring for name and fame have

to remeber that nothing remains as permanent.Ramans family is also like any

other family having claims and disclaims.

Several writers through AM for 3-4 decades have brought out very very

interesting and technical issues and soved them successfully.Such Magazines

/journals are very essentilas for the field to develop and give

direction.Astrologers aspiring to become famous need to cultivate and adopt to

understand various technicalities by reading old issues of AM.

Justice Kapoor,as President with set backs in his personal life has taken up the

challenges ahead.It takes time to sort out issues and people to come around and

continue with the extraordinary tradition,culture and eagerness of this family

to bring out and establish importance of Modern Astrology.The father has done

his job.The tribe and the progeny has to rever and continue with the great

contributions.

Good idea for the Astrologers to ponder and make efforts to revive Astrological

Magazine for the great imprint it made on the profession

It is appropriate that we may intiate a collective effort and urge the

President, ICAS not to disappoint the disciples of Astrology..

we wish and pray that AM continues to be published and able to solve the

prevailing legalities.That way justice Kapoor is most suited for the task.what

ever little contribution we can make we should not desist.

vrkrishnan 

 

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? 7/7 p2

 

Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:13 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna ji,

 

nice to see ur illuminating thoughts again

 

On Rajeswari raman's case isn't it sad that after raman's demise her life is

become so miserable as bad as the Astrological magazine.

 

B V RAMAN had ebough foresight in at least saving ICAS in time and put justice

kapoor in the helm, knowing what it wud if he did not hasten it, but as far as

his family is concerned he never did anything to prevent its ruin. allowing it

to endure the karmic currents and reach a shore so dictated.

 

Raman left no will, his sons esp Niranjan Bbu threw rajeswari raman out of the

family home, when gayithri devi gave her shelter she was unseated from the

magazine and it ran a lack lusture 4 month life and went into coma or death god

knows. now she too is left uncared for with no resources and work

 

I remember ina AGM of ICAS 3 yrs ago when justice kapoor wanted to quit the job

after his only daughter and son in law died in a accident in the grief stricken

state. had no enthusiasm to continue. and wanted Gayathri devi to take over/

 

but gayathri devi was [also aware of her fathers vision of their future] and

said her father had witha vision, purpouse given him the role and it had to

prevail as he was the best suited and hand picked

 

when we see their future now it stands vindicated

 

Niranjan babu wanted all ICAS members to to AM and he be made ICAS

president, both were turned down as these r not inherited but earned

distinctions.

 

We only hope such a great lineage will come to a good shore soon.

though we know what can come our way we have to wait its course, suffer its

might or its pleaseures

 

some members have been asking me for updates on raman's magazine, and want to do

something to revive it, we must all put our hands and heads together and let it

reach back its glory a great magazine and a sad end to it is uncecoming.

 

Best wishes

 

Prashant kumar

 

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Monday, July 7, 2008 1:08:24 PM

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? 7/7

 

Dear Prashant ji,

Thank you for your reieterations. When we work with sincerely and with devotion

towards the reverred science of Astrology,planets do promote and encourage for

rendering services as Astrologers. I remeber that persons running the dasa of

Jupiter including anatar of Saturn and the other way of Saturn dasa and and

antar of jupiter,people develop inclination for study of Astrology.Often this

aspect of a persons keen interest used to be the focal point in discussions of

ICAS classes.Shri K.N.Rao ji also used to deliberate before his students from

time to time.

As far as the context of Famous Astrologer is concerned.it is a consitent

approach to help the natives in dire needs and help them to overcome their

turbulent times.In all these issues.Once Karma of the Individual provides

fitness and Almighty's benevolance is always there for every one that desire to

be an Astrologer.Famous or otherwise are subjective issues.In any case one has

to seek the favour of Sun,the palnetary King to bestow his wishes too for

getting popularity and work for the benifit of Society.

regards

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer? 7/7

 

Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:44 AM

 

Dear Krishna ji

 

welcome back it is been a long time and we miss ur great inputs in the subject

we used to see till a few yrs back, I hope u will be able to get some time for

the groups again.

 

this post by you and sri RR-ji are quite good and reflect the real spirit of a

jyotishi and those who try to study the subject must also try to inculcate the

same spirit in their life, apporach to issues too theresults can get better with

application and time. what we study is just a mere guide and how we use it is

surely a interplay of idnividual karma and almighty's grace.

 

Best wishes

 

prashant kumar

 

 

vattem krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:44:47 AM

Re: Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?

 

Dear Shri Rohinida,

It is long time to see your advice and harmonise the essence of Astrology as

service first and lattter any thing.

The Study of Planets with reference to Individulas and the suggestions made

should help the individual to understand the problems of life and means to

resolve.Being an absolute faith science some times a tendency is noticed to

question veracity of the predictions made and the Astrologers views

It is beyond doubts that all planets support human endeavours and give clues to

lead a balanced and meaningful life.It depends on what we really want to pursue

by study of Astrology

So it is beyond doubt that any body can become an Astrologer if intends

seriously and understand various issues connected with this study.

 

regards

vrkrishnan

regards

vrkrishnan

 

--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Rohiniranjan <rohini_ranjan@ hotmail.com>

Re: Sir can I become a Famous Astrologer?

 

Sunday, July 6, 2008, 10:03 PM

 

Dear Ashok,

 

If I were to approach this, " Kaun Banegaa Jyotishi! " question, here

is what I would do:

 

a) Collect the horoscopes of a few dozens of astrologers after

defining what the parameters for someone being called an astrologer

are*.

 

b) (a) being the 'easy' step in the process, trust me, I would next

examine those from the point of what I have decided to consider as

the definition of an astrologer for this hypothetical study*.

 

The process is very simple, if carried out 'simply' without a lot of

emotions, anger and agendas getting in the way! If it is a sincere

and serious question to begin with!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

* This is where we run into the problem! What constitutes

an 'astrologer' ? Is it someone who just knows the lingo or is it

someone who has studied the discipline for a few years or decades and

has served the 'internship' as they say! Meaning: writing about

astrology, giving readings, clearing up doubts, and simply stated

treating it as a saadhanaa...

 

Astrology is NOT a perfect solution for knowing the mysteries of the

Universe, as it is falsely touted at times. Astrologers do not

necessarily limit themselves to pure astro-logic when they utilize

it. Many if not most and certainly not ALL astrologers utilize their

spiritual strength and practice when helping out an individual

through readings and advice. There is nothing wrong with that,

indeed, when someone comes to us for help, we must bring forth all

the abilities and all of our soul into helping such an individual!

That is not an expectation from us, it is a REQUIREMENT!

 

I still remember the simple and transparent words of one of the

greatest astrologers that we have been privileged to witness, read

about and words from -- which have educated, helped, even transformed

many of the astrologers around, " ...I take the horoscope when I go to

bed to sleep and as I look at it, I do japams as I begin to

understand and incorporate the chart ... " [PARAPHRASED] .

 

When I read that, many many years ago, suddenly I realized that all

this fighting and tug-of-war as to whether astrology is a science or

whatever simply vanished!

 

ASTROLOGY IS A SERVICE AND THOSE WHO ARE BLESSED THROUGH THEIR PAST

GOOD ACTIONS AND LIFETIMES OF STUDY AND HARD WORK MUST NOT GET

DISTRACTED! SERVICE FIRST, THE REST OF THE DRAMA AND POLITICS CAN

WAIT!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " a_jaswani " <a_jaswani@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir

>

> Is 2nd,vaak bhav and karka are important for making good

> predictions? ??

> Kindly specify other requirements also??

>

> Regards

> Ashok

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala @> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear Pavan ji

> >

> > I think u shud b in teaching ur knowledge than go for

> predictions .

> >

> > Any way if u want to b succesful as astrologer ,see ur 2nd

> bhava ,Vaak

> > bahava is afflicted and karaka also .And Lord in exchange and in

> 12th

> > house .so cure it by guru mantras and saraswathi mantras ,and take

> > mantra frm some competent one .

> >

> > pls do ur daily routines more in a daivangna way ( i hope u

> understand

> > it ) .Or refer Prashna maarga for rasi pooja and nava graha

poojas

> daily

> > and offocurce grace frm once guru is important .

> >

> > Any way jup -merc period is coming up and transit will b better in

> > coming days ,so try now confidently .

> >

> > even prashna says guru tatwa is affected .

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> > Ps --pls no more questions and clarifications as i am too busy .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , pavan surpur

<surpurpavan@ >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sir,

> > >

> > > My name is pavankumar, as i am practicing astrology since from

7

> years

> > & also member of Indian council of astrological science.(ICAS)

> > > My details are as below

> > > DOB: 24/10/1975

> > > Time:-05.55 AM

> > > Place of birth:- Mumbai

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > pavankumar

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >